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01-08-09 21:10 #464
Thanks Renee and N Cali Guy
For the nice advices and sorry for the very late report.
Well, it has been a short and busy visit in Sofia. Involved in business meetings most of the time with very little time for our hobby. In that respect, the location of Serdica Hotel was perfect, just couple of meters from Kama Sutra.
I can tell you, it was quite OK with Kama Sutra. The enty fee was negligible and beer was OK. I sat in front of the center pole when the place was not so crowded around midnight and the show was also OK. Mainly average girls with a few stunnies and some of them were providing acrobatic performances while some others were almost just standing in front of the pole. It appears that I arrived on the right time since one hour later the place was packed. I had three lap dances, 20 leva each, trying to communicate with the girl at the same time to figure out if it would be possible to have some more action. Two of them, with poor English, responded to talk to the manager. The third one said she doesn't provide full service, only CBJ. When I lost my interest, she added, she can come to my place with a friend and both can provide one half of the service. "I suck, she fuck", as she was explaining. Anyway, I was already tired and not in the mood for these funny games, just stayed a little more, enjoyed the scene and left.
The next evening I went to Velvet. Maybe it was not the right evening, the place was almost empty, only a few tables were full and the performances on the poles were really boring. Prices were pretty much the same with Kama Sutra. A few lap dances 20 leva each, and I left the place with my bone in the panths, no action.
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12-15-08 10:21 #463
Tiffany
Back to Sofia after a long trip. Really sorry I could'n give the link to the girl I was talking about earlier, but anyway here it is now.
Her name is Tiffany, I called her straight I came back to Sofia and spent amazing night with her and once more I was totaly satisfied with her service.
She is totaly GFE, allowes french kissing, fingering, owo, cim, cob and really like to satisfy and to be satisfied with a good hard fuck.
I will look forward to see any comments upon her from you guys.
http://www.bezplatno.net/listing-140...CORT_GIRL.html
You can find her adds in www.obiavibg.com or www.sexbomb-bg.com
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12-13-08 04:10 #462
frank
many thanks for this useful list.
hopefully i will put this to good use at the end of the month.
Originally Posted by frankols 70
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12-09-08 20:55 #461
these are my research notes for a side trip i was planning to sofia next summer, but from what i have read here the market seems to have gone seriously down hill service wise and the prices way up in the last year.
so i will probably not be going after all, will take my chances with the tourist girls on the beach instead if i go to bulgaria this summer.
but i seemed a waste just to forget the information i collected from reading the 2 last years of the sofia forum, plus checking out links to other websites. so i decided to post it here, where hopefully somebody can put it to some good use when in sofia.
most erotic establishment advertise in a free guide called sofia guide, but it is apparently difficult to get hold of these days from the report by dars veider listed below, the second link is to copy of the sofia guide posted by dars veider.
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=375
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...chmentid=82018
below are a few links to sites with escort ads.
http://www.all-bgescort.com
http://obqvi.bg-sex.com/women-seek/man/
http://sexbomb-bg.com
http://www.bezplatno.net/categories-...tursi_muj.html
escort websites.
http://www.bulgaria-sofia.com/
tlf anna - 00359 898 897 698, niky – 00359 898 819 308 . price starts from 110 € for 1 girl and 1 hours, 200€ 2 hours with 2 girls up to 750 € 2 days with 2 girls.
run by two girls, prices not to bad. but no anal, owo or cim.
http://vipkristina.com
tlf +359887469685. 1 hour=100€
fairly good english and sounded nice on the phone and looks great in her pictures, but owo not possible.
http://www.sofia-escorts.com
most likely fake, at least for bookings outside sofia.
hosted on a free web host, all the girls do anal for extra money (yeah right), demands a 30% deposit plus travel expense and finally the girls look to good to be true.
but it might be real when it comes to bookings in sofia, if they are willing to arrange meetings in sofia without an deposit. but it's unlike you will get the girl in the pictures on the website, maybe a girl that looks like her if you are lucky.
while following links from isg i found a website called bulgariamodels.com that have 2 pages that seem to contain much of the same inforamtion as the sofia guide mentioned above. i have a feeling that i it might be outdated since the prices seems to low, but included it any way as well as links to the web page where i found the information in case anybody is interested.
list of independants?
http://bulgariamodels.com/id-12/bulg...ge_prostitutes
listed as of december 08
http://alinagirlforpleasure.escortsite.com - alina
www.vipkristina.com - kristina
http://sexyaleks.model24h.com/*- aleks
www.xxx2002xxx.street.bg - elizabet neeva
www.ekler.street.bg -*Десислава Петрова / desislava petrova*
www.girls111.street.bg - vip girls
www.maimunka7.street.bg*- Емма Христова / emma hristova
www.mrs-linda.com*- mrs.linda s&m
www.merakliika.free.bg -
www.vanqsex.street.bg- vania
www.sisa69.street.bg*- sisa
http://gergana666.hit.bg*- gergana
www.best-izkushenie.hit.bg - magi
http://www.zonatali.street.bg/*- natali
clubs and brothels from
http://bulgariamodels.com/id-81/sofi...s-and-brothels
listed as of december 08, visit the website above for links to the clubs with there own websites.
brothels
p/h
address
telephone
69
€25+
86 vitosha blvd*
02-9543738, 0888-7787877, 0888-8315969
aida
€25+
30 skobelev blvd
02-9526583, 0898-470521
afrodita
€25+
33 tzar ivan assen ii
02-9440232, 0888-232009
amour
€25+
69 skobelev blvd
02-9524790, 0887-480674
anakonda
€25+
5 strandor petjofi st.
02-8519672, 0898-908046
angels of sofia
€30+
0885-659730
angelche
€30+
bohemi
€25+
2b haidushka gora st.
02-858 05 06, 0898-666316
bonita
krakra st. block 9a
02-9433369, 0888-400588
contessa
€50+
16 vitosha blvd
02-9897562, 0899-529556
diamant
€25+
multiple
multiple
enigma
€25+
24 vrabcha street
02-944 50 70, 088 780 01 84
escort
€25+
ap.3, 49, chataldja str.
estell
0886272270; 0896901861
eva
€25+
87 lyuben karavelov st.
02-9877936, 0888-8601720
evredika
€25+
40 praga blvd
02-9546698, 0886-338201
evro love i
€25+
21 pench slaveikov blvd
02-9545159, 0888-712097
evro love ii*
€25+
3 hristo botev blvd
02-9549319, 0888-224638
europa
€25+
32 praga blvd
02-9525459, 0897-266163
extasy
€25+
22 gurgulat street, apt 1
02-8526743,*0887-458165
ivona
€25+
32 neofit rilski st.
02-9804315, 0887-616252
kati
€25+
24b dondukov blvd,*apt 1*
02-9865748,*0888-999582
monika
€25+
37 william gladstone
02-9808632, 0888-800454
club rai
€20+
0898/22-11-77, 0886/37-38-53
real xxl
€20+
бул. Владимир Вазов
бл. 208 вх. Г ет. 1 ап. 1
02/846-36-57, 02/943-55-07, 0897/79-79-77
relax
€25+
43 angel kanchev
02-989 76 95, 0889-931622
veselina
€25+
vivian
€25+
43, pirotska str.
986 12 58, 0889010153
clubs
p/h
adress
telephone
erotic bar
€50
31 cherni vruh blvd
02-9630655, 02-9634781
fetish club
€100+
4 vitosha boulevard
02-9813663
flirt bar
€50
108 slivnica blvd
02-9315720, 0886-750889
kamasutra
€50
19, dondukov blvd
0887 303 802
paris
€50
2 lui aer street
02-9581853, 0889-609703
peep show
€50
lavov most square
02-8326650
playboyz
€100+
kempinski*hotel zografski
02-9633964**
red erotic bar
€50
116, hristo botev blvd.
taboo club
€100+
12 narodno sabranie sqr.
02-9870870*
velvet erotic bar
€50
12-14, slaveikov sq
velvet erotic bar
€50
12 pencho slaveikov blvd
0888-531336
sorry about the messy formatting of the club and brothel information.
frank
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11-19-08 13:24 #460
Benimuler
Very fine report and discovery. I see that you don't have PM access yet.
Could you offer the newbie's name and perhaps an add link ?
Thanks.
E.
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11-16-08 23:12 #459
Sofia
Can you write contact of sweet newie mentioned on the end of your report :-)?
Originally Posted by Benimuler
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11-15-08 23:05 #458
Hi to all!
Since I live for an year now in Sofia I never got in mind to visit this forum. So I did it now and I found verry useful posts here.
Yes, most of the guys are right, the prices got higher since Bulgaria got in EU and because of the high inflation here. Anyway, it's not that the problem I think. But the atitude of the girls, and not at last the way they look.
On my first visit to Sofia, two years ago, I was surprised how nice girls work in the clubs, and in the striptease bars.
The prices were around 50 to 100 EUR and the service was much beter than now. Yes, in places like Kamasutra, Cleopatra and Velvet you still can find some beautifull girls. First, not all of the girls working as a companions, and second, what I don't like about theese places is that you have to call the girl to your table, buy her a drink, which is a bit expensive (martini about 15 to 25 EUR or a botlle of shampagne. EUR 100! ) Then the rooms they offer are not really comfortable, and clean, So usually I bring the girls to my place.
The only thing the girls worry about is how faster the time will go. There are clubs, like Kontesa, for example, which charge aroun EUR 50 to EUR 100 and in which you can find some nice girls too. But things changed even there. The girls don't awoll to touch their p***es, or a***ses, even some don't awoll you to play with their breast, which I used to do with girls from that places an year or two ago. DFK, OWO, CIM, COF, COB are absolutely inposible even with extra charge.
About the escort services provided over the internet sites in Bulgaria the situation is the same, and what is more, usually you don't get the girl you have requested for. That's because very few of them got real pics shown there. I never picked up a girl from 'Luvov Most", first of all they are all Gipsy, dirty and you are in risc to get your wallet stollen, or even worse.
I can just imagine what the rooms there like. There is some street action on the highway near 'Mladost" district. The girls there are gipsy too and you are in high risk to get trouble with the police going around all the time. A friend told me he gave EUR 100 to P*****E to let him go after some street action on the same place.
Another option is personal adds in sites like www.obiavibg.com or www.dalavera.net. Some of them are real, some are posted by girls working in escort clubs.
Again many of the pics posted there are not real and you don't really know what to expect.
Yes, there are lots of beauties in the disco clubs at night, but those girls don't work as an escorts. It's hard even for bulgarian guys to pick up a nice girl from the disco clubs.
Because of the economic situation here most of theese girls looking around for any rich bulgarians to be their gf, or most allready have one.
You may get in trouble if you offer money to any of theese girls.
And finally. My last and best experience ever in Bulgaria. Just yesterday I saw an add in one of the sites for classifieds. The girl was looking very nice on the pics, and although I wasn't sure they were real I called her. I spoked to her for a minute, she asked me if I come to her /she told me she has a nice place/ or she has to come to me.
I was not in a mood to go out, so told her to come to my place. Then she got the phone over to a guy, which confussed me first, but then the guy in pretty good english informed me that he is the driver and just need the address. He said the girl will be at my place in an hour and asked me if I know the price. 150 leva/ EUR 70-80/ per hour, 250 for two hours / EUR 130/ and 400 leva / EUR 200/ overnight. I said I will go for an hour first.
So after an hour the girl arrived and I paid to the driver 150 leva. She was really nice looking, around 23- 24 years, tall and with perfect body, very classy and sexy girl. In short conversation / her english was not so bad/ she told me she is a newie. I was surprised when she offered french kissing, oral without condom, CIM and COF for an extra charge of 100 leva/EUR 50/ and anal sex for 100 leva more. I went for OWO and CIM. I had amazing time spend with her, she wasn't boring and seemed enjoing sex too. Sure I will go for all of her services next time.
If there are guys interested of her I will post a link to her add.
Good luck to all!
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11-14-08 08:38 #457
Longhardlook and other experts,
I agree with you that street action, researching bars, looking for sweet freelancers etc. is fun, cheaper etc. But whe nyou are in the place just one or 2 nights and don't have too much time, then escost agencies are beter choice, I think.
So, can anybody recomend reliable escort agency in Sofia in sence that pictures on web and description of offered services are true ? Ifound on web www.clubrai.com - looks good but does anybody have some experiance with this club / agency ?
Another question for experts of Sofia - by reading reports and some "offers2 o nweb it looks taht most of bulgarian pro and semi pro girls are not willing for DFK or OWO, CIM, COF what is more or less standard for example in Budapest ?
Anyway, I'm traveling to Sofia on Monday, so, any kind of answers / comments / proposals will be more than welcome.
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11-10-08 18:03 #456
A Longhardlook @ Sofia
Amazingly detailed report, Longhardlook.
Pretty much updates anyone venturing to Sofia and as a second post or not clearly merits placing in the reports of Distinction section.
Great work and do come again. ;-)
E.
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11-10-08 14:35 #455
Newbie guide to Sofia
apologies admin, posted first time round in wrong section so please delete that first one.
as a newbie to this particular forum here’s my first posting aimed especially for anyone who might be considering visiting sofia for the first time.
here i have tried to put things in perspective like the price of hotels, girls, locations etc.
any way, i hope you find it helpful.
sofia as a good mongering destination is still, it seems, getting mixed reviews.
some claim it’s now become too expensive with typical high london/europe prices and not much street action, (or) not much street action but still a good selection of girls and still reasonably cheap if you know where to look. but bulgarian women in general, most of us would agree, are quite something.
with 3 visits starting in 2007 now under my belt and another trip already planned to see in this new year, i agree with the last two comments adding if i may ‘sexy’ and ‘highly ‘fuckable’ and if we start comparing sofia to places like amsterdam or hamburg then i tend to agree too that sofia does not have much street action.
what little there is of it – very seedy - and also in my opinion can be quite dodgy too is around the lion bridge in front of the lion hotel and crossing the road, around the sun hotel. this is typical get-your-wallet-stolen street gypsy territory and even if you did meet a reasonable good looking one who was not a junkie or looked like one, it is doubtful anyway that you would get her past the hotel doormen. the other option of course is renting an apartment in the centre. i’ll come back to that later.
so what’s the attraction? you might ask, why not go to nearer places like prague or budapest? well, thankfully having not joined the dreaded euro yet and bulgaria will not join until at least 2012; and being one of newer countries to join the eu, accommodation entertainment and food and drink in bulgaria’s capital still remains wonderfully inexpensive, in fact around a third of what you would pay in london and that includes taxis including a standard 10 lev fare on the meter for the 6 miles ride from the airport into the center of town. just a pity the same can’t be said about golden sands on the black sea which was ruined (practically overnight) when bulgaria officially joined the european union and prices doubled.
and dare i say it too in these politically correct times but if you enjoy a cigarette or cigar with your drink, meal or coffee then in sofia you are in paradise. add to this classy bars that open late together with exceptionally beautiful women, that actually are quite approachable, now rather than later is the time to visit.
still, whether picked up from the street or in a bar, my personal preferences when playing away has firstly always been with freelancers for as well as being the cheaper option, generally i have found the girl working alone will do everything you ask for, for no extra charge, and will usually stay with you longer and it is for this reason that i have clocked up more than a few kilometres of exploring (usually on foot) sofia city’s darker nooks and crannies.
but in sofia you can walk for hours and not see a thing only to shoot your load somewhere else and then be approached later in the street by a beautiful women or two when you least expected it. sofia is like that. one of my more memorable street experiences was from non pro of all people i picked up outside a sex shop close to the hotel rodina during my first ever visit. 23, short cropped red hair, short leather skirt and a nice pair of legs, and enroute to varna where she lived, she agreed to ‘kill time’ for 3 hours back at my hotel. emerging from the bathroom to me lying bollock naked on the bed, i remember she was wearing skimpy black underwear making me rock hard as i pulled her tits out (nice round medium size and 100% real and pale and white) and rubbed my cock all over them. could have come easily at that stage but refraining from spraying her i pulled down her underwear and as she stepped out of them i turned her around and made her bend down like she was touching the floor and condom on and rubbing first her ass while i was shooting and she was moaning, i fucked her pussy as hard as i could.
50 lev well spent but there’s just a bit more to add to this report.
it was during my first trip there, during the easter weekend, a time i definitely don’t recommend especially if you were like me and only there for 3 days because the place almost turns into a ghost town as people tend to leave town that weekend to visit their families. the 2 or 3 escort agencies i spoke to at the time – the others i phoned just rang and rang with no answer - told me the same thing, to ring back after monday. the bars that i thought would be lively were not, and even a visit out of sheer desperation to the infamous fetish club on visa blvd purely made me get the hell out of there sick with disappointment after only one much overpriced drink. so meeting that girl on the street when i did and the fact that i was able to start up a conversation was a godsend to what i thought of at the time was turning out to be a pointless disappointing trip and for me a total waste of time and one of the main reasons why i’ve since returned.
so just to finish off my findings regarding sofia’s street action (or lack of it):
as well as the mentioned luvov most (lion bridge) area which gets busier at night, by day – meaning from mid afternoon to early evening - i’ll share the following;
try the small clutter of bars by the travel agents and tacky souvenir shops across the road from the central railway station. (mainly rough looking gypsies.) two offered me a twosome for 50 lev each but as they wanted me to go back to their room which i was too scared to do and because i was too scared to bring them back to my hotel i am still yet to sample the delights of that naughty bulgarian gypsy girl with a dirty mind and a glint in her eye.
warning though, walking around the train station area late at night is not recommended, nor is the stochna gara roundabout (renowned curb crawling territory) 10 minutes walk along slivnitsa blvd from the lion hotel.
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try the area around the mosque off maria luiza blvd and crossing over, the streets behind the old market hall close to scotty’s hotel.
here i have picked up the same girl twice. her name is pronounced linya, black curly hair 30 years old and putting on a few pounds but still in shape and gives good service. usually hangs around with two others (blonde hair dyed). linya basically does everything you ask for, for 2 hours for 60 lev and last time i bought her dinner afterwards and she only took 50 lev.
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the bars and cafes in the park gardens and squares from the national theatre all the way towards the alexander nevsky cathedral. as well as being a nice pleasant walk any way, have got eye contact and occasional smiles from the girls in this area sitting alone usually on the park benches. picked up a very sexy and cute 19 year old romanian girl with light brown hair and glasses outside the russian church and had a sort of gf experience buying her an ice cream and coffee first. no full sex that time, just a blow job with her topless which again cost me 50 lev and another few good jerk offs afterwards!
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try the part of the square in front of the sheraton hotel where the church is across the road from the happy bar & grill.
sections of the main ring road outside sofia is another pick up place and has had lots of bad reports in the press but the fact that you would need a car of some description and be able to speak bulgarian is of little use even with prices starting from as low as 30 lev.
next up on the list but to slightly higher prices are the apartment girls who if they bother to advertise at all only advertise in the bulgarian cyrillic alphabet in the local newspapers.
here prices start from around 60/70 lev for the hour for foreigners and locals pay less.
the advantages of these places are that you can go for a quick lay in privacy and relative safety at any hour of the day like say 11 o’clock in the morning if you feel the need and you can choose your lady from usually a minimum of three, again depending on the time of day.
the main disadvantage is finding a knowledgeable taxi driver who you can trust to take you there and hope at the same time he’s not greedy with his cut or commission. personally if that person exists i have always been unlucky, for the only time i seem to get nice helpful taxi drivers is when i’m not mongering at night as a sex tourist. most of these girls do visit but still it’s not much use if you can’t read the newspaper adverts in bulgarian or communicate with them.
so from the freelances on the street to the ones in the bars:
in sofia, in every crowded bar or disco whether it’s a classy 5 star hotel or local tavern, providing the place is busy and packed there will be at the very least one freelancer at the bar trying to make eye contact. whats on listings will give you the latest ‘in’ places.
my two favourites at the moment from dozens of other choices is sin city on hristo botev and planet club on oborishte str where i have picked up some real beauties for around the 100 lev mark plus drinks and taxis etc for all night gf experience. be sociable, reasonably presentable and to some extent generous with buying the odd drink for friends too and see the rewards.
the much higher price option is of course the many ‘hotel visiting escort services’ who advertise in english in all the hotel ‘whats on’ guides. no matter how conservative, prim or proper your hotel might be they will guarantee discretion but at a price.
with prices starting at around 120 lev for one hour for local girls (currently half of what you would pay in london) or is now more the case – starting at around 120 euros for the crème del le crème, you are really paying for top ‘international’ model looks. but if you are going to spend this sort of money, take a tip from me of a great tip i was given and use the service to the full.
remember bulgarians are very liberal people and so will be the person taking the ‘fuck bookings’ on the other end of the phone. so when you ring up, instead of saying something like i want a nice blonde around 25 with large breasts to arrive in the next 30 minutes; as well as stating what you would like her to wear and what you would like her to look like also state what you would like her to do like anal, [CodeWord103], spanking for example and if it’s going to take that particular person a little longer, say around 2 to 3 hours to get to you so be it for there is nothing worse (and for me ) nothing more of turn-off when that ‘friendly’ person from the ‘best escort service in town’ starts dictating the ground rules like no touching here, no kissing there once you have handed your money over and she’s starting to undress. my worst experience of this was recently while in transit in budapest leaving me 150 euros out of pocket but thankfully while the service from the two escorts i’ve so far had in sofia from two different agencies have not been perfect, both have fully met my expectations both in looks and physique again at under half the price i would pay in london. also there’s something quite special wouldn’t you agree, while waiting in high expectation for that sweet music to your ears sound of a gentle knock on your hotel room door.
regarding accommodation and where to stay, in sofia it is still possible to find a good centrally located hotel starting from around 50 euros a night but like anywhere in the world location, location is the key. supposing you do screw up though, it still shouldn’t be too much of a problem as the taxis in the city are cheap and frequent to get you from a – b.
starting from the luxury top end, of the eight or so 5 star properties in sofia, surprisingly only 4 are located near enough to the centre to justify the higher room rates.
for comfort, larger than most beautiful standard rooms and a position right bang in the centre of sofia the grand hotel sofia couldn’t be in a better central location and even so, the room rates there are lower than both the radisson sas 10 minutes walk away and the sheraton (the most expensive property yet with smaller rooms) only 5 minutes walk from the grand.
if you are into smaller hotels, the luxury boutique style les fleurs on vitosha blvd is again more central than most.
whilst the hilton and the nearby kempinski hotel situated out near the suburbs on the lower slopes of mount vitosha require a taxi every time you set foot outside the door, the holiday inn which doesn’t even show up on some maps is probably the furthest 5 star hotel away from the centre.
most of sofia’s 5 star hotels may charge for overnight guests but this is still much a grey area. having just visitors to your room and providing they don’t leave the hotel too late at night should not be a problem as i’ve found at the radisson and grand hotel sofia, but there they charged me the full euro rate for a ‘breakfast’ in the morning my overnight guest did not have.
regarding sofia’s 4 star hotels, whilst the majority of them are quite central, most by western standards should only be classed as 3 star.
two of the exceptions, both tall and modern and deserving their respective 4 star rating with casino, indoor pool and the full works, the sofia princess and it’s twin sister the hotel rodina (and nightclub) on the other side of town to the west of the centre are just too far away from the action. both hotels though, do a great highly recommended (but with no extras) full body massage service for around 36 lev for 40 minutes and every time the masseuses have been young and stunningly beautiful including of note a very appealing gwen stefani look alike working at the princess.
as a place to stay though, here’s some more four-star hotel options:
the salt palace hotel slightly closer to the action on tri ushi str has nice rooms on par with any 5 star hotel; the larger best western city on stara planina str (close to the kama sutra club) is another popular choice as is the smaller ‘old worldly’ gloria palace hotel on maria luisa blvd.
however, most of the hotels right in the centre of sofia (that can be anything from a renovated large public building or house) are classed as three-star.
as the written guides might say, some have their own unique charm but others, i suspect, are rundown fucking depressing places to stay and i wonder how many people have done just that, as well as adding to their pain by not having done any research first on their trip.
from the old worldly architecture buildings like the lion and sun hotel already mentioned, the best position of them all for all the lively bars is the 3 star hotel rila very close to the grand hotel sofia and that may explain too the high 4 star hotel room prices.
another option too for one of the best locations in sofia might be to pay for a room upgrade at the ugly soviet era style two-star (at least they are being very honest) slavyanska beseda hotel on slavyanska str. i have been in worst hotels. or the 3 star hotel art on dondukov blvd just down from the sheraton is in a good position too.
according to some of the stuff i have seen on the internet, it is possible to rent a luxury one bedroom apartment bang right in the center for around 50 euros a night. with the little research i have so far done i’ve found one company that even picks you up free of charge from the airport.
with some girls being very shy at coming back with you to a smaller hotel and the larger hotels sometimes charging extra for your room guests, this option looks quite tempting.
some of these apartments look fantastic with all mod cons from free broadband internet connection, flat screen cable television and dvd players to queen size beds and modern fully equipped kitchens with microwave ovens and crystal wine glasses but i can’t see this idea working too well if your flight arrives late at night, or even worse leaves early in the morning for who is going to check you in or check you out at that unearthly hour and check the inventory list? and how good will the guests ‘word’ be to the letting agency if say on day 2 you notice a large cigarette burn on the carpet?
if anyone has rented an apartment in sofia for only a few days, i would appreciate any feed back.
finally, sofia’s erotic bars/striptease clubs i have purposely left until last mainly to make a point.
out of all the 5 well known ones in town all with their own unique selling points like,
the taboo club strategically placed close to the radisson sas hotel (house specialty, hostess lying naked covered in fruit salad), the fetish club on vitosha blvd close to the sheraton (uniforms, fetish costumes and role play if you own an oil well and can afford the champagne lady drinks), cleopatra’s (high class hostess bar) near the kempinski and hilton and velvet near the hotel rodina, kamasutra back down on dondukov blvd is probably the safest, non intimidating least expensive one of them all.
so what do you get for sofia’s only non intimidating least expensive striptease bar?
answer: probably the least attractive pole dancers in town and of those, the least attractive ones take their full kit off and from those least attractive who tend to just stroke the pole looking half asleep at the same time, the very very least attractive girls in the club will go with you to a back room for what is now (if the recent reports i have read are true) a minimum fee of 200 lev and 100 lev per hour after that after you have paid for 2 or 3 lady drinks first. at the kamasutra the waitresses treat you like shit, and even more so if you are bold enough to ask for the drinks menu first, like i did, and was ignored thereafter until hopefully for them i walked out in disgust. i didn’t, only out of principle for paying first the entry fee or cover charge at the door. when the drinks came, maybe after half an hour at higher than london west end prices (very expensive for sofia, but still, to be expected) the waitress kept the change and more the fool for me, got away with it a second time. it wouldn’t have been so bad if she had at least smiled.
basically to appreciate these places you have to go in with a carefree happy attitude, ideally in a small group if you can and tip the waitresses well, smile or no smile. at the kamasutra club the lady drinks are reasonable at around 20 euros a time but double that if you are going to visit any of the other places and the golden rule is, don’t arrive directly by taxi but find first a nearby landmark like a restaurant bar or hotel and walk it from there.
my one and only visit to the fetish club was by taxi. basically the stupid moron of the driver i had who said he had no change to give me almost took me by the hand inside, even tried to tell me where to sit and stood over me while i ordered my drink and to top it all started beckoning the girls he chose for me to come and sit at my table. the fact that i told him to get lost in so many words didn’t go down too well either. yes bulgarians can be very stupid as well. what a fuck up of an evening.
so what is my point?
well, as i said at the beginning of this report some say as well that sofia has become too expensive with london/europe prices. that is also true but of course depends on where you go in sofia. even so, from every city in the world from seattle to sydney strip clubs and erotic hostess bars have always been rip off no go areas for the not so rich so why should sofia be any different?
enjoy your trip.
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11-06-08 15:49 #454
Isn't that what matters ?
Glad to hear that you had a good night and enjoyed yourself, Nagy Idegen.
Originally Posted by Nagy Idegen
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11-06-08 15:41 #453
Kama Sutra
Dear all,
A quick report following my one and only evening in Sofia a couple of weeks ago.
Based on the reports (and geographic proximity) I went to KamaSutra for a look. I am not used to strip clubs but felt immediately comfortable. The place isn't big but you feel at ease.
The entrance fee is negligeable and the drinks are cheap, WITH ONE EXCEPTION: getting a Martini for one of the dancers will cost you 30 Lei, which is outrageous if you compare to what you would pay.
The spectacle of girls gyrating and strutting their stuff was fun for a while but its obvious this is their routine and only a couple were really into what they were doing.
I ended up leaving with one of the girls (a petite, Marianna I believe, always was useless with names) as she showed most interest and can confirm that prices are higher than stated in older posts. The hotel surcharge (although I had an "appartement" style room) was a nuisance.
That having been said the sex was good fun, the girl had a good attitude and was very friendly and into it as she reached climax well before me. I added 40 Lei to perfom oral sex on her as an extra.
I must say that the talent wasn't mindblowing in KS, but I had a good night.
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11-03-08 00:51 #452
Excess, you paint a very dismal picture of Sofia. If even Mariana is starting to charge extra for what used to be part of the package, and that on top of a quite outrageous price increase, methinks it's time to move on. It's almost exactly a year since I last saw the Minx and I gather that she has indeed moved on, hopefully to better things! Methinks I may just have to try harder in the Western Balkans!
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10-24-08 19:20 #451
Update on Sofia - @ if only....
Had the opportunity to breeze through Sofia recently and thought it worthwhile to follow the advisories here and to update on what was happening.
Dropped into several of the recommended with mixed results.
There have been some changes in pricing structure from those posted earlier that are worth noting before heading out with Leva.
Checked on Digital's Kama Sutra for something old, was determined to look in on Cleopatra’s as something new and then again, the club a few numbers own from the Radisson, the Tabu club, I believe, which turned out to be something blue.
The pricing structure as advised in this thread was fairly simple. Take out of the club - or, in some cases with rooms in the club for a consistent 100 leva an hour for the first and following hours. Just multiple the hours required x 100. Add 10 or 20 Leva for an hour in the rooms "outback" for an hour.
There has been a recent "price adjustment" which both Kama Sutra and Cleopatra have introduced which caused some disappointment since Digital "took me in hand" - in the nicest and non-Gay way to show me the Sofia ropes and his beloved kama Sutra. Hope you are well Digital.
The bad news is that both Kama Sutra and Cleopatra's managers now require the first hour to be paid as Leva 200 !! A hefty 100% increase. Following hours are still 100 Leva. It was more than a bit of shock to here this on entering Cleopatra for the first time.
Cleopatra itself was surprising. The decor was in keeping with the name, but the girls present were also surprising. of 14, on the Excess scale they were valued as 7-8 lower to mid 'A' team. The rest but 2 mid to mostly upper 'B' Team. The 2 were lower B team. This to Excess' way of thinking a great score for the Team. I was very impressed.
Decent lighting, not quite as good as Kama Sutras made it easy to search for imperfections of which there were few. Most dancers had visual interaction which is nice. Several came over for interviews immediately. Very nice.
A waitress was much too quick in arriving for lady drink orders which was annoying and dampened the mood. When I inquired about the pricing structure, mentally ready to hear the previous numbers, I was shocked. No rooms were available on-site, I was told.
So, as an ISG'er who feels that no matter if one can afford it or not, in the interests of solidarity that liberties taken over pricing are a serious matter, I opted to the surprise of the waitress and at least one of the ladies to move off after a 10 leva drink with a comment about rising prices. There was a tinge of sadness but one must, I thought, be firm.
So, it was on to something else new – Tabu club.
Very impressive room. About 15 ladies spread about on plush sofas.
Entered was greeted by a manager and then escorted to a sofa. It was insisted that I not sit where I was headed but to sit on another sofa that was occupied by 2 ladies. The first sign that Taboo might not be the kind of place that Excess likes to visit.
The two ladies were Ukrainian. Not terribly impressive. Mid B Team. I suggested one sit with the other beside me as I didn’t really like to have one either side, meaning that a) I couldn’t enjoy looking at both of them at the same time and b) one would be out of sight at one moment or the other.
English was Ok, but as they didn’t appeal, wasn’t interested to take the conversation very far other than some preliminary questions and kidding. The waitress also very soon arrived for drink orders for the Ladies – plural. I asked what the structure was and was assured that it was very simple – a bottle of champagne was the standard. Price – only 200 Leva.
It didn’t take but a moment to decline. “I wouldn’t want to buy the lovely ladies a drink?” Errr no thanks. As the only Customer – guess the Radisson was still in meetings, I also wasn’t sad to hear that the ladies can only sit with you for Company if you are buying them “a Drink”. Stifling my sadness, I agreed to allow the ladies to slink off to another sofa together to wait their prey. Still no other guests on the scene.
After awhile, another Ukrainian arrived, but solo. The first move at Tabu is to sit you between 2 ladies and hit you for the champagne. Spotted around the club were other pairs waiting.
The Ukrainian who arrived at least had something of a polished patter. Would be delighted to be my guide and show me the place after sitting and drinking. The rooms outback were “magnificent” and she would be excited to accompany me to one of them. Sounded better.
Price for such guiding service? “Let’s talk about it after getting to know each other ‘much better’. And price for dinks? “Oh- a lovely bottle of champagne about 200 Leva I think?”
“I will have the waitress bring us one”. Not to bother, I said, I was going to move on – without being guided to one of the lovely rooms she mentioned. She feigned shock at the idea of leaving, but I was firm. Paid for my 10 Leva drink and headed back up the stairs.
While the Tabu club may appeal to a certain type of Visiting Firemen who are averse to having to take a cab from the Radisson, it does not include Excess who did not think that he needed to look in again. Color it “Blue”.
That left something, Old.
Quite looking forward to the Kama Sutra. Paid the usual 5 Leva entry fee and headed down the stairs and onto one of the sofas middle of the 3 central poles for dancing. Rather expected to look over beside me to see Digital enjoying himself, but alas it was not to be.
Mostly ‘old faces’ dancing and in the club meaning they were known faces. All Bulgarian girls.
Surprised to see that the standard at KS was very much below Cleopatra. Here as before, mid to upper B Teamers. No A Teams at all. More than a few low B’s.
After spending a happy hour or two drinking and watching, had an old friend come by to chat and have a drink. She is also known to Digital and asked after him. Small girl, dirty blond hair and animated – Mariana. Digital would be pleased to hear that Marianna has trimmed down further – not that she was holding more than extra pound or 2 but was now very lithe and enjoyed dancing in a number of interesting positions. A positive step.
Thought I would enjoy meeting her again in more intimate circumstances and suggested we move to one of the rooms in back. Was surprised to hear that the rooms were closed. Would reopen again in the future but the legal authorities have suggested that they should be closed for some indeterminate time. Well, off to a hotel then? Yes of course was the answer and with pleasure for both us she said. Asked the waitress to come over to pay for a few hours. Second large surprise – 200 Leva for the first hour and 100 Leva for each thereafter. ( 100 Leva equals about 51 Euro). After finding my voice, I asked what happened? Recent price increase due to the high inflation rate in Bulgaria, was the answer. I said that I didn’t think that this would help the inflation rate by raising the first hour price by 100%.
Mentally, also added the usual 30 Euro charge added by Hotel reception in Sofia to have a visitor come by the room for an hour or overnight. The guests’ ID card is demanded by the hotel to record as well.
After a few moments of reflecting on the ladies of Cleopatra decided to take Marianna out as she was at least known and settled on 2 hours.
Off to the Hotel, the check in routine and into the room. Showered and got settled on the bed with Miss M. On a previous encounter Miss M. had proven to be diligent however, CBJ was required during several good sessions and no DFK and minimal K. . Reflected on how the Sofia girls were very limited in their offerings in country but once in FKK land – Bulgarians fell into line immediately with DFK and BBBJ to compete. Strange and also the sliding standards in Prague were also disappointing for the same reasons.
In any event, Mariana then informed me that menu du nuit included A levels – “you can fuck my ass” – it will cost 200 Leva, OK? And if you like, you can lick my pussy – that will be 50 Leva. She gave the impression that I would be happy to add these items to the check out basket and the lube was ready on the bedside.
I barely stifled a laugh and suggested that the quality of the Excessive DATY was known by Ladies in a number of countries and there have been suggestions from a number of them that they should be paying Excess for this menu item. Never a complaint received to date. As to the A-Levels, while the fitter version of Marianne was very delightful and her ass was always a highlight, I just did not think the tariff was offering real value so declined. Surprised to have these items out of the mental shopping basket, Marianne sighed and shrugged and proceeded to make good use of the more limited repertoire. Moving along I found that while pussy stroking was fine, deeper penetration was not. The session was very decent and athletic as before. Somehow, the up selling took its toll and when time was up, was not interested to extend and I knew that Marianne and I would not be seeing each other again.
This concludes the Sofia update with some sadness about recent events. KS has lost some of its allure. The new pricing structure was not a positive.
Cleopatra deserves a return visit as the line up was excellent and now I know that the 200 Leva for the first hour was not an aberration. Will put that into the calculator for another visitor or visit. Let’s see what transpires.
Note. Guest drinks remain at Leva 10 for most and the Leva 5 as well.
Added Note: Almost all Hotels seemingly enforce the registration of guests arriving at any hour from the evening on. A legal issue and 'for the protection of our guests'. To which the add, a Euro 30 or Euro 20 surcharge to your bill for which you sign as they register the guest. Difficult to by-pass.
The Radisson being one of the very few that does not do this, but then there is the very near-by Tabu club to contend with.
Extra Note for Digital Your Miss M. seems to have been stepped off the stage for good at KS.
Extra Note. Clubs in Sofia open around 9:30 - 10:00 pm and remain open 'till 5 in the morning. Ladies can be taken out or to the rooms if open at any time from opening.
Enjoy E.
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10-22-08 06:05 #450
Arriving at midnight, personally I'd head straight for Kama Sutra. If only........sigh!
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