Prague

[FiddyCent]

Hi Fiddy,

Do you think this virus will change pricing after quarantine is lifted and the FKK's re open?

I posted about the condom law before it took affect and said all we would see is a price increase with more up selling, I was right.

Do you think this virus will change it back or make the girls upsell more?

Just looking for your opinion as I have read your posts over the years.

Well, it will never go back to the way it was BackpackBrian. Several guys have noted that in the short run, immediately after the businesses reopen, that the prices will go up. Then it is up to the individual to see if they are willing to pay that. My prediction, if there are more girls working, they will all be in stiff competition for the few dollars that are floating around. You will need to remember that guys cannot just jump on a plane to go. They themselves need to build up savings and recover from the market crash. For the guys that are well off, they may go back and pay the asking prices, but I won't be one of them. This is hitting me hard in the pocket book too. If a girl asks me for more than 100 Euros for 30 minutes, then I will just not go. It all boils down to supply and demand. Who knows which FKKs will survive this? I am keeping a close eye on Prague. I am sure many privats won't be able to survive after this. In this market, you will see a jump towards more independent girls. Guys definitely need to control their urges to pay the asking price. If not, this market will be lost forever. I predict that Show Park won't survive. They were planning to close anyways. When the girls are finally allowed to work, they will organize in groups themselves, or work independently from pimps for a bigger cut themselves. They may have boyfriend / pimps or need to hire protection. What I believe is, the rebound won't be as quick as I would hope. We are all in this for the long haul. Everybody suffers. The latest reports say that the Czech Republic won't reopen their borders in the near future. That will hurt all the girls. They will try to find other ways to make money. You may see more girls work as Cam girls. The others will look for sugar daddies. I believe this is where you will find most of the action. It will be the same for every country. It may be time for me to move on as well. I don't have a crystal ball, but I see opportunity. If not in Prague, then elsewhere. Play it smart!

FiddyCent.

[BackpackBrian]

I believe the same number of overseas tourists visited FKKs in the past, Maxime. It's downfall can be traced directly back to the condom law. You still can get substandard FKK service if you pay the posted 50 Euros for 30 minutes. The girls now just have an excuse to upsell. Besides now that all the FKKs have been forced to close their doors, tell me where are the girls working now? They need men like us and foreign money to survive. So, think of this as a positive. You will have your reset button. Just push it. In Germany and in the Czech Republic, wherever you decide to return first.

FiddyCent.

Hi Fiddy,

Do you think this virus will change pricing after quarantine is lifted and the FKK's re open?

I posted about the condom law before it took affect and said all we would see is a price increase with more up selling, I was right.

Do you think this virus will change it back or make the girls upsell more?

Just looking for your opinion as I have read your posts over the years.

[FiddyCent]

Completely agree. This is THE reason many german FKK / Clubs went downhill last few years. Too many (oversees) tourist that pay double the normal rate for a standard session. And of course most girls adapted to this as the new standard in clubs like Sharks, Oase, etc.

I believe the same number of overseas tourists visited FKKs in the past, Maxime. It's downfall can be traced directly back to the condom law. You still can get substandard FKK service if you pay the posted 50 Euros for 30 minutes. The girls now just have an excuse to upsell. Besides now that all the FKKs have been forced to close their doors, tell me where are the girls working now? They need men like us and foreign money to survive. So, think of this as a positive. You will have your reset button. Just push it. In Germany and in the Czech Republic, wherever you decide to return first.

FiddyCent.

[Maxime]

"Think like a local and make appropriate choices. I would encourage visitors to not give into the prices they set."

Wise words that apply to anywhere you go. Whether its a restaurant, lodging, or pay-for-play service. Part of the reason that some tourists are despised by locals not just in Prague, but in many cities around the world, is that they inflate prices for the people that have to live there. Its not about how little it costs you. Its how that amount compares to average earnings in that locale.

Don't be the ugly tourist. I tip after if the chemistry was good, and I felt that the girl gave good service. 100 or 200 crowns that was unexpected is better than paying exorbitant amounts to a "high-class" escort.

Completely agree. This is THE reason many german FKK / Clubs went downhill last few years. Too many (oversees) tourist that pay double the normal rate for a standard session. And of course most girls adapted to this as the new standard in clubs like Sharks, Oase, etc.

[D Rick]

Yes, a small part of what you say may be true, Delta Indigo. Girls will try and make up for lost revenue by increasing prices. I will tell them that I am only going to pay the going rate. If we buy into their logic, then this city will be lost forever. As far as I remember, privat prices have remained around 1500 CZK per hour. The local men are up in arms when the rates went up to 2000 CZK in some privats. For a tourist, that may only be about $ 20, however for a local, that is a 33% increase. Think like a local and make appropriate choices. I would encourage visitors to not give into the prices they set. For example, the rates at Show Park have risen considerably while privat rates have remained the same. Where will those girls go when they need a place to work? There should be a larger number of providers. Just swoop down and make the girls a fair offer. If they refuse, then move on. Oh, and by the way, I would never use a non-metered taxi. There are taxi apps now that will tell you the rate before you board. I believe that UBER is now well established in Prague. I have used them several times with great success. Those drivers deserve more business. You do have your choices. Everyone just need to stick to their guns. Keep them locked and loaded.

FiddyCent.

"Think like a local and make appropriate choices. I would encourage visitors to not give into the prices they set."

Wise words that apply to anywhere you go. Whether its a restaurant, lodging, or pay-for-play service. Part of the reason that some tourists are despised by locals not just in Prague, but in many cities around the world, is that they inflate prices for the people that have to live there. Its not about how little it costs you. Its how that amount compares to average earnings in that locale.

Don't be the ugly tourist. I tip after if the chemistry was good, and I felt that the girl gave good service. 100 or 200 crowns that was unexpected is better than paying exorbitant amounts to a "high-class" escort.

[FiddyCent]

Interesting, I think you are right about new entrants to the providers market. However I know from past experience that Czechs, and not only them, have some strange logic in this respect. When times are bad and the market is depressed they try to raise prices to make up for it instead of lower prices to reflect demand. I had never experienced this messed up counterintuitive logic before, but I heard it is something that is not uncommon in emerging markets.

I remember specifically taxi drivers in Prague, not the normal metered ones, would tell me that because of economic crisis (2008 to 2012) we have to ask for higher prices. Basic economics would dictate otherwise.

Yes, a small part of what you say may be true, Delta Indigo. Girls will try and make up for lost revenue by increasing prices. I will tell them that I am only going to pay the going rate. If we buy into their logic, then this city will be lost forever. As far as I remember, privat prices have remained around 1500 CZK per hour. The local men are up in arms when the rates went up to 2000 CZK in some privats. For a tourist, that may only be about $ 20, however for a local, that is a 33% increase. Think like a local and make appropriate choices. I would encourage visitors to not give into the prices they set. For example, the rates at Show Park have risen considerably while privat rates have remained the same. Where will those girls go when they need a place to work? There should be a larger number of providers. Just swoop down and make the girls a fair offer. If they refuse, then move on. Oh, and by the way, I would never use a non-metered taxi. There are taxi apps now that will tell you the rate before you board. I believe that UBER is now well established in Prague. I have used them several times with great success. Those drivers deserve more business. You do have your choices. Everyone just need to stick to their guns. Keep them locked and loaded.

FiddyCent.

[Mongerer88]

If the crisis lasts long enough, the key will be to simply start over and take a chance with new, young ladies just starting out and motivated to perform.

Many of the stars you are talking about are now in their 30's and will in fact ask for more money to make up for their losses.

Many of them created their reputations and customer bases at low prices as teens and 20-somethings following the 2008 financial crisis.

You aren't obligated to see existing ladies. No one is under contract, them or you.

Every forest fire creates tragedy but creates opportunities for new trees to grow.

Fiddy,

You have a point sir. I personally had considered the possibility of prices dropping due to people recovering financially after possible unemployment, digging into savings, and from tourism recovering post-COVID. Also, like you mentioned, the months of reduced income will probably increase the supply of girls to the market. If the mongers aren't out in numbers and there are more girls, they may respond by dropping the prices. That being said, I'm actually fine with the prices in Prague and I'd be happy to continue at the standard rates (or a smidgen lower) with the higher likelihood of better service or more time.

This also makes me wonder how the SA market will respond? I'm thinking that many girls on the site will start with high demands in order to "make up" for lost time / income, but. Guys that are reading this that use SA. Don't give in to these inflated prices! Let's be fair (as Fiddy mentioned), but also take this opportunity to standardize the numbers. I'm happy with a 150-300 PPM (this should include all the bells and whistles obv) (do the math, 300 for about 5+ hours together = decent hourly rate. Kinda inline with privats), but, once you start hitting 5-700, that's just too much. (ex. Normal in London is about 250 P). Let's keep the prices sane where everyone benefits. Some SB actually asks to be compensated for the first meet over coffee or dinner. WTF! 100 for dinner / coffee only. This needs to stop. Ok. I digress.

I, too am looking forward to the girls coming back hungry for cock and ready to rock. At this moment, I'm really feeling the pain of not being able to travel!

[Delta Indigo]

Hey LshRoomer.

The way I see it, the only positive I see when this whole thing is over is that girls have not been making money for some months. There should be more girls offering their services to make up for the downturn. I would not try to lowball the girl. I would try to negotiate more time or better service. You may also see more freelancers come out of the woodwork. More competition brings downward pressure to the prices. Besides that, I just hope the girls would be more hungry for cock when we all return for action. No unreasonable offer should be refused.

FiddyCent.

Interesting, I think you are right about new entrants to the providers market. However I know from past experience that Czechs, and not only them, have some strange logic in this respect. When times are bad and the market is depressed they try to raise prices to make up for it instead of lower prices to reflect demand. I had never experienced this messed up counterintuitive logic before, but I heard it is something that is not uncommon in emerging markets.

I remember specifically taxi drivers in Prague, not the normal metered ones, would tell me that because of economic crisis (2008 to 2012) we have to ask for higher prices. Basic economics would dictate otherwise.

[LshRoomer]

Hey LshRoomer.

The way I see it, the only positive I see when this whole thing is over is that girls have not been making money for some months. There should be more girls offering their services to make up for the downturn. I would not try to lowball the girl. I would try to negotiate more time or better service. You may also see more freelancers come out of the woodwork. More competition brings downward pressure to the prices. Besides that, I just hope the girls would be more hungry for cock when we all return for action. No unreasonable offer should be refused.

FiddyCent.

Fiddy,

You have a point sir. I personally had considered the possibility of prices dropping due to people recovering financially after possible unemployment, digging into savings, and from tourism recovering post-COVID. Also, like you mentioned, the months of reduced income will probably increase the supply of girls to the market. If the mongers aren't out in numbers and there are more girls, they may respond by dropping the prices. That being said, I'm actually fine with the prices in Prague and I'd be happy to continue at the standard rates (or a smidgen lower) with the higher likelihood of better service or more time.

This also makes me wonder how the SA market will respond? I'm thinking that many girls on the site will start with high demands in order to "make up" for lost time / income, but. Guys that are reading this that use SA. Don't give in to these inflated prices! Let's be fair (as Fiddy mentioned), but also take this opportunity to standardize the numbers. I'm happy with a 150-300 PPM (this should include all the bells and whistles obv) (do the math, 300 for about 5+ hours together = decent hourly rate. Kinda inline with privats), but, once you start hitting 5-700, that's just too much. (ex. Normal in London is about 250 P). Let's keep the prices sane where everyone benefits. Some SB actually asks to be compensated for the first meet over coffee or dinner. WTF! 100 for dinner / coffee only. This needs to stop. Ok. I digress.

I, too am looking forward to the girls coming back hungry for cock and ready to rock. At this moment, I'm really feeling the pain of not being able to travel!

[FlAdventurer]

Hey Bastard,

I'm in the same boat as you. I had one of my favs hit me up in early Feb asking when I was planning to be Prague again? COVID19 completely wrecked my plans! Now it's just a waiting game until everything subsides. I think summer is a bit optimistic, especially with the numbers still rising. Even if things calm down globally, I'm not sure how many people will be jumping to travel abroad (myself included).

Gia looks amazing from her pics, but her rates are waaaaaay too high for me, and that's coming from a guy that's able to afford it. When you have your next session, don't hesitate to share the experience. I'm sure there are mongers here that would appreciate a report that gives her the thumbs up / down.

Happy hunting mongers and stay safe.

I had planned for a trip this summer to Vienna, Praha and Budapest. I think you can add more time to any expected timetable since a lot of these places are going to be putting visitors from certain countries on quarantine when they arrive.

[FiddyCent]

Gia looks amazing from her pics, but her rates are waaaaaay too high for me, and that's coming from a guy that's able to afford it. When you have your next session, don't hesitate to share the experience. I'm sure there are mongers here that would appreciate a report that gives her the thumbs up / down.

Happy hunting mongers and stay safe.

Hey LshRoomer.

The way I see it, the only positive I see when this whole thing is over is that girls have not been making money for some months. There should be more girls offering their services to make up for the downturn. I would not try to lowball the girl. I would try to negotiate more time or better service. You may also see more freelancers come out of the woodwork. More competition brings downward pressure to the prices. Besides that, I just hope the girls would be more hungry for cock when we all return for action. No unreasonable offer should be refused.

FiddyCent.

[LshRoomer]

Very bummed out to be stuck in the US right now as my business trip to Prague was canceled due to COVID-19.

Anybody in Prague right now? What's the update and current events there?

I planned on seeing Gia again (praguebrunette.com) but will have to wait this out and see her when this thing is done with.

What are your predictions?

Cheers and hope everyone stays safe!

Hey Bastard,

I'm in the same boat as you. I had one of my favs hit me up in early Feb asking when I was planning to be Prague again? COVID19 completely wrecked my plans! Now it's just a waiting game until everything subsides. I think summer is a bit optimistic, especially with the numbers still rising. Even if things calm down globally, I'm not sure how many people will be jumping to travel abroad (myself included).

Gia looks amazing from her pics, but her rates are waaaaaay too high for me, and that's coming from a guy that's able to afford it. When you have your next session, don't hesitate to share the experience. I'm sure there are mongers here that would appreciate a report that gives her the thumbs up / down.

Happy hunting mongers and stay safe.

[FiddyCent]

My economic stimulus package is to quarantine myself with one of my favorite babes every night. You are right, the economic ramifications are enormous. I'd wait till June for a real sense of how the battle is playing out. As of now, world travel restrictions simply won't allow access to our favorite city.

Prague will be Prague. Beautiful city full of beautiful girls.

I figure that if I use a "the", it will be replaced by "THE" "the Rick". Your plan sounds like a good one. For me, I will need to wait until this pandemic is over. June seems optimistic, and I am on the outside looking in. Hopefully, the girls will be able to stay fit and will be hungry for cock for when I get back. All the best to you!

FiddyCent.

[D Rick]

Hey the Rick.

It is good that the Czech Republic has taken such drastic measures to curtail the spread of the Covid-19 virus. Their quick action should lead to a faster rebound. Prague is a very popular tourist destination. Their economy relies heavily on tourism. To see it shut down like that will hurt everyone for the time being. How will those lovely girls earn a living? When this is over, I intend to jump right back into the action and help out a few girls. My economic stimulus package. Keep up the front line reporting. Stay safe!

FiddyCent.

My economic stimulus package is to quarantine myself with one of my favorite babes every night. You are right, the economic ramifications are enormous. I'd wait till June for a real sense of how the battle is playing out. As of now, world travel restrictions simply won't allow access to our favorite city.

Prague will be Prague. Beautiful city full of beautiful girls.

[FiddyCent]

I am not in Prague now, but from what I've been reading Prague is more or less closed down, the only thing open is food stores and apothecary, no pubs, restaurants or so. Looking at a webcam over Old Town Square it's really really dead, you can actually count the number of people on the webcam, that has never happened before.

My predictions is that it might calm down in another month or so with summer closing in and then a careful tourist summer, much less than normal and then closing down in autumn again sadly. I hope that I'm wrong though and that it's all over in a month and everything goes back to normal.

The travel restrictions are in place for their neighboring countries and other high risk international countries. Prague has always been a hub for many international tourists, so their economy will take a big hit in that sector. Once the treat has passed and the country opens up again the girls will be hungry for action, but they may be more cautious as who they will meet with. One month is a very optimistic projection. Best case scenario, the numbers will drop off significantly to allow things to get back to normal. The problem is the US has just surpassed Italy as the epicenter of the Covid-19 outbreak. Unless measures are in place to control the spread of the virus, the US will remain a high risk country for months to come.

FiddyCent.