Prague

[RealZoom]

That's great Turgid, but the main condition to their borders opening to tourists from foreign countires is a negative Covid-19 test. If you cannot provide proof, you will be subject to a 14 day quarantine. Since this will take up all of your time in the Czech Republic, what is the point in going? They need to lift all the restrictions before I would even consider returning. Best to you if you happen to be there.

FiddyCent.

And I don't get the point what a negative test shall proof. It's a snapshot at the time of testing, one might get infected afterwards but will be free to move because of the presented test? Doesn't make sense to me.

So I fully agree, from a hobbyist point of view there is still no reason to travel.

Just my 2 cents.

[FiddyCent]

Czech Republic opens its borders to citizens after infections decline. The Czech Republic has opened its borders for outbound foreign travel in a sudden u-turn after official figures showed a decline in the rate of Covid-19 infections.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ctions-decline

That's great Turgid, but the main condition to their borders opening to tourists from foreign countires is a negative Covid-19 test. If you cannot provide proof, you will be subject to a 14 day quarantine. Since this will take up all of your time in the Czech Republic, what is the point in going? They need to lift all the restrictions before I would even consider returning. Best to you if you happen to be there.

FiddyCent.

[Turgid]

According to the President, it should stay closed for one year: https://news.expats.cz/weekly-czech-...t-milos-zeman/ !

Czech Republic opens its borders to citizens after infections decline. The Czech Republic has opened its borders for outbound foreign travel in a sudden u-turn after official figures showed a decline in the rate of Covid-19 infections.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ctions-decline

[Delta Indigo]

According to the President, it should stay closed for one year: https://news.expats.cz/weekly-czech-...t-milos-zeman/ !

Well there are a few issues, here, first of all the president in Czechia does not have all that much power unlike for example the president of Poland. So the effective head of state is the Prime Minister and the President is more of a figure head. Secondly the president of Czechia, Zeman, in my not so humble opinon is a total nutcase who is not known for saying things systematically and coherently, remind you of some other presidents?

If you read the rest of the article you have posted, you will see his comments about a pig who was slaughtered in contravention of public health rules. I will let you judge his mental state in light of this.

[RealZoom]

According to the President, it should stay closed for one year: https://news.expats.cz/weekly-czech-...t-milos-zeman/ !

Thanks for the link!

If they really want to do it like described and keep their borders closed for a year or two, this will be the end of tourism in Czechia including a major drawback for our hobby.

I'm having my doubts that the country can afford to keep out all travelers and destroy tourism. More likely they will have kind of a list who's fine and who's not, depending on his origin. At least the interview pointing out such an approach. So fingers crossed that some of us will be on the "good to go" list.

[Maxime]

Fingers crossed that Czechia will open boarders soon and allow tourists again.

According to the President, it should stay closed for one year: https://news.expats.cz/weekly-czech-...t-milos-zeman/ !

[Maxime]

I know I am writing in the wrong thread, but I am replying to a post in this thread so please excuse me for this. I guess the Venus club you are referring to is in Hamminkeln, but which club Atlanta are you referring to, I could not find it anywhere?

Indeed SC Venus in Hamminkeln and FKK Atlanta in Hanau (all small clubs, with mostly good service). But we have to wait a few months I am afraid.

[RealZoom]

Czechia has been relatively lightly affected by Covid 19 and I think it is on the list of countries that is opening earlier than others, according to CNN. Seeing your numerous reports here I thought you might have lived in Prague, but I now know that you don't.

I do think that when things open lower prices will prevail. Witness the post by Melissa pleading for foreign customers to pay more despite the anticipated market conditions. The rates will go down for one reason that you have outlined before, the local customer base's income has been badly hit. Both buyers and sellers are badly hit, the aforementioned post from a former supplier is just silly, it is appealing for buyers to pay more than the new market rates.

I certainly wish that people would pay me what I thought I needed and not what the market dictates. I would not give up on Prague if I were you. The club scene in Prague was never fantastic, it was better in the past, but never great, so no big loss on that front.

Fingers crossed that Czechia will open boarders soon and allow tourists again.

Regarding prices I assume that some will try to increase prices for foreigners to catch up their loss during the lockdown. So it's up to us to correct this by refusing funny prices in a reasonable way, I'm confident that this will bring things back to normal. For those girls who are asking for lower rates, just go for it LOL.

But I like to second Melissa, don't try to negotiate prices in an inappropriate way. Bazar isn't anything common in Europe and it's seen as an offence in many countries. The girls have to catch up with their losses, but it's a buyers market so it will lead to a win win situation for both sides hopefully.

I'm looking forward to be able to have dirty fun with some lovely girls in Prague soon.

[Darth Coder]

Hi guys,

I'm new here and want to visit Prague after the pandemic. So what is GRIS that you all refer to?

[The Cane]

However Fiddy Cent has a serious point here, if you are able to let go of what you are comfortable with then there are many hidden gems in Prague, to be had for a reasonable price.

But it's not just a matter of "comfort level" for me. It's what I like. No, it's what I "need"! As I've said before, I doubt that I ever would have become a hardcore, no turning back monger had I not found the Brazilian termas or the German FKKs. I wasn't prior to discovering those game-changing "platforms". I'm most certainly open to trying new things. Why I went to a Czech privat in the first place. But, I know that meeting girls in private apartments will never give me the same kind of satisfaction and fulfillment that the terma or the FKK does. I know me best and what I need. The privat scene simply cannot deliver to me what I got to have. For those for whom it does, great for them! Tally ho!

[Delta Indigo]

I did visit one privat while in Prague. The girl, although not a "stunner", was cute enough to give me a boner. The sex was decent too. Not rushed and no clock watching. Kissing (initiated by her), missionary anal butt fuck, etc. I was satisfied, including with the pricing. But like you say, that club vibe was missing, and I like that. I need that!

I like places where I as your typical "tourist monger" can roll into town and hit a ready-made "platform" offering me lots of pretty girls to choose from who do naughty things in the room. And all at prices that I can afford. I haven't found any countries that deliver that better according to my tastes than Brazil and Germany, in that order. I like Spain too, but that's not a sauna club culture (my first preference), and I think the prices have gotten a wee too high at the top clubs without consistent quality service levels that can be counted upon. No plans for Spain as of now.

I like the sauna / nightclub type of scenes. I found that Prague was a city that sucks when it comes to these two types of mongering establishments. If you're into the privats yeah, I agree that in Prague you would on average get the best service at better prices. But, I'm not into that type of scene for two reasons. For one, like I said, I need that "club vibe". And number two, as a tourist monger with limited time, I need to make every day of my trip count. Get the most out of it. For me, that means not having to spend all of this time "digging" and running around all over the place paying crooked cabbies (Prague was bad about this) trying to find a good privat girl. If I lived in a Prague, OK. But I don't. So give me some floating, ready-made "platforms" where I can "land my jet" and do my thing with efficiency and consistency!

Good luck to you too Fiddy Cent. Good luck to all men trying to put their mongering schedules back together again. Let's get back out there when it's time, and let's it on!

I think Fiddy Cent has a point though. The club scene is always very convenient and it leads to laziness and opportunities for price gouging for poor services. I used to live in London and then there were no clubs but a few pseudo privates or places you could walk into with a single girl. When I knew no better than this was okay, not unbearable.

I used to take the train to Brussels and go to RLD there, which I found far preferable to the setup in London and more cost effective, service was not stellar but adequate, and considering the hotness of the girls, it was a bargain compared to London, an enormous one.

Having this P4 P experience, I used to love the club scene in the Czechia compared to all of that I had experienced previously. It used to be better and cheaper in the past, the service was never that great, CBJ only and many girls did not kiss but I was okay with that at the time.

Then I discovered the FKK scene, with GT in Vienna and I couldn't bear the club scene in Czechia anymore. My local Czech friends also noticed my lack of interest and asked me about it, I told him in the Germanic region it is far better and actually cheaper. I used to be really into it and all of a sudden couldn't stand it, at one point I had seriously considering moving to Prague before I experienced FKK land, that is how much I used to like it.

It is what we are used to, we are comfortable with certain settings. I do love the club vibe too, particularly I like seeing girls fully nude, and in the respect even Spain falls short, I love sitting in the club and having a drink between sessions and so on and admiring girls all around me.

However Fiddy Cent has a serious point here, if you are able to let go of what you are comfortable with then there are many hidden gems in Prague, to be had for a reasonable price.

Even the clubs vary a lot, a club that is not so glamorous that I discovered belatedly is Neon Club, however the girls go much further than the clubs I used to know over a decade ago in Prague. OWO is rare in Prague clubs, however in Neon club, quite a few girls do it and I have been rimmed by quite a few girls.

Right now, knowing what I know, I would say the Vienna sex scene is a lot richer than Pragues, but if I had Fiddy Cent's experiences, then I might rank the two far more closely together. Just a thought.

[The Cane]

Let's get back out there when it's time, and let's it on!

Let's get it on! We do how we do my fellows!

[The Cane]

Hey TC. I would argue that if you could find the right privat girls, you will realize that the girls are not clock watchers, not upsellers, are willing to provide anal sex, CIM, and SWALLOW. You would like their prices much more and be able to fuck MORE. Not just quantity of girls, but duration with the girl. The only difference is the club vibe is lacking. I find the girls to be real, and sometimes a bit inexperienced.

I did visit one privat while in Prague. The girl, although not a "stunner", was cute enough to give me a boner. The sex was decent too. Not rushed and no clock watching. Kissing (initiated by her), missionary anal butt fuck, etc. I was satisfied, including with the pricing. But like you say, that club vibe was missing, and I like that. I need that!

I like places where I as your typical "tourist monger" can roll into town and hit a ready-made "platform" offering me lots of pretty girls to choose from who do naughty things in the room. And all at prices that I can afford. I haven't found any countries that deliver that better according to my tastes than Brazil and Germany, in that order. I like Spain too, but that's not a sauna club culture (my first preference), and I think the prices have gotten a wee too high at the top clubs without consistent quality service levels that can be counted upon. No plans for Spain as of now.

I like the sauna / nightclub type of scenes. I found that Prague was a city that sucks when it comes to these two types of mongering establishments. If you're into the privats yeah, I agree that in Prague you would on average get the best service at better prices. But, I'm not into that type of scene for two reasons. For one, like I said, I need that "club vibe". And number two, as a tourist monger with limited time, I need to make every day of my trip count. Get the most out of it. For me, that means not having to spend all of this time "digging" and running around all over the place paying crooked cabbies (Prague was bad about this) trying to find a good privat girl. If I lived in a Prague, OK. But I don't. So give me some floating, ready-made "platforms" where I can "land my jet" and do my thing with efficiency and consistency!

Good luck to you too Fiddy Cent. Good luck to all men trying to put their mongering schedules back together again. Let's get back out there when it's time, and let's it on!

[Delta Indigo]

The more I think about it BackpackBrian, the more I believe the game is over as we know it. Here are my reasons. People are scared. The Czech government has not set a clear date to reopen the borders. Clubs were already struggling before Covid-19. No new club will open up and the big clubs are likely to suffer a huge financial hit. Show Park in Prague which was slated to close, won't reopen. If your predictions come true, then the number of providers from foreign countries will drop. That will mean that many Romanian girls will go home. That signals bad news for the FKKs. Yes, that void will be filled by German girls, but they may not be the top tier models and they definitely won't be satisfied with the current rates. Game over! If the Romanian girls stay in Romania and Czech girls stay in Prague, they will operate as independents. You may see more Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby arrangements, but that is the great unknown. There will be more competition for our dollars, and there should be a downward pressure to the prices. You will have to dig even deeper to find a gem and may encounter more scams and bait and switch, in my opinion. Prague may no longer be a top destination. Its reputation is already taken a hit. Now without order, this could be the wild west. I don't think that tourists will flock back immediately. Also, I don't believe their government wants us to visit either. Game over! Personally, I am going to make other plans now. I may need to look at Asia, since I believe this will be the first area to reopen. It is in their interest to return to normal as quickly as possible. They may have the most relaxed laws. I do hope I am wrong, but I am preparing for the worst. My future plans are aready shot, so it was good that I managed to sneak in one last visit. I don't think I will be back anytime soon. Good luck in your travels BPB!

FiddyCent.

Czechia has been relatively lightly affected by Covid 19 and I think it is on the list of countries that is opening earlier than others, according to CNN. Seeing your numerous reports here I thought you might have lived in Prague, but I now know that you don't.

I do think that when things open lower prices will prevail. Witness the post by Melissa pleading for foreign customers to pay more despite the anticipated market conditions. The rates will go down for one reason that you have outlined before, the local customer base's income has been badly hit. Both buyers and sellers are badly hit, the aforementioned post from a former supplier is just silly, it is appealing for buyers to pay more than the new market rates.

I certainly wish that people would pay me what I thought I needed and not what the market dictates. I would not give up on Prague if I were you. The club scene in Prague was never fantastic, it was better in the past, but never great, so no big loss on that front.

[FiddyCent]

Hi Fiddy,

Another interesting take. I hope for the best but expect the worst, so it's a wash.

BUT, looking at history (just recently found interest in previous world recessions) I've discovered that governments tend to either relax a little and look the other way when they need to revive their economy.

Coincidentally, a perfect example is Wuhan China! After Mao created 10 x millions of starving people from his extreme Utopian policies in the 60-70's, the Chinese gov't gave way and relaxed their laws on selling non live stock animals in the markets ("wet markets" in hopes it would lift up poor farmers and provide them with additional / any income they wouldn't otherwise have.

I'm only 40, but I've seen and read about street workers in Russia during the Soviet times and how they were a plenty, when no one had any money.

When people are starving and need to survive they will do anything for very little and in many cases the gov't will back them in understanding that it helps everyone.

Maybe, just maybe we'll see new FKK's and ones in countries that don't have them yet!

Wishful thinking. For an optimist.

I do hope you are right BackpakcBrian! I did mention there was opportunity in tough economic times, but I think the wait will be too long. The Czech government appears to be the most cautious in their approach. I predict they will be one of the last countries to reopen their borders for travel. They are not even letting their own citizens out of the country. For this reason alone, I am looking at other destinations for my next trip. My guess is that Asia will open up first, but that really depends on the measures they are taking right now. I have also been keeping an eye on South America. The Cane did rave about Brazil on more than one post. There is also potential in Colombia, and perhaps Costa Rica in Central America. Opening of FKKs in other countries may be wishful thinking indeed. You do need very relaxed prostitution laws. Maybe, if history repeats itself, Russia will be the one of those countries that opens up to encourage foreign travel. Only time will tell, but I am still banking on Asia being the first. I really doubt that you will find the FKK model operating in emerging markets, but I do like your optimism. Good luck!

FiddyCent.