Prague

[DwayneJohnson]

Has Privat Grace gone out of business? Looks like it to me, but I thought someone here might know more.

There were reports on Czech forums that privat grace had some incident and LE were involved. Owner closed it and girls are appearing in other privats like top, lovely etc.

[FiddyCent]

Has Privat Grace gone out of business? Looks like it to me, but I thought someone here might know more.

Hey Refresher.

It is possible that the website could temporarily be down. I just tried loading the page through my VPN, and it came up blank. I found some reports as late as the end of August. There could be a number of reasons. Lack of girls, relocating apartments, too much attention from foreign numbers, etcetera. It is anyone's guess right now. Someone local might have an answer, but there are still other options available. Did you happen to take down any phone numbers when you last visited?

FiddyCent.

[Refresher]

Has Privat Grace gone out of business? Looks like it to me, but I thought someone here might know more.

[Rprogta]

Hey Rprogta.

It's your money and your trip, so do what you think is right for you. There is something for everyone in Prague. The only thing I would advise, if age is on the back of your mind, is to verify that with the agency before you book. Based on the wisdom of my predecessors, they always say "posted age + 5 years and posted weight + 5 kg".

I would also recommend you not try to ask any massage girl to do escorting work outside of the massage place. That is the main reason why these girls work there and not as an independent in a privat. YMMV, of course. Ask at the end. Who knows? You might be able to charm one of the ladies to visit you outside of her work.

Looking forward to read about your success stories. Just be prepared with several backup plans because things happen very quickly in Prague. You only have five days!

FiddyCent.

Oh yes, I'm very aware to limit my expectations and not expect a girl to totally resemble her pictures. I always find it funny looking at girls profiles online that haven't been updated in years and still have the age listed as 18, but reviews from 5 years ago! Luckily I've become quite good at narrowing down legit profiles so have never been massively disappointed.

I understand what you mean about the massage girls. Usually you can tell who may be open to offering more based on their personality and any other services they offer during the massage. If I feel other things may be on offer outside the massage place I'll hint to test the waters instead of outright propositioning.

I'm always prepared with backups for my backup plans. I learned a lesson in Barcelona having to go to most of the brothels in the city to find a girl at 4 am because I didn't have an independent pre-researched available. Show park or the sauna club will most likely be my expensive last resorts.

[FiddyCent]

This is really an upgrade for me. My home place has "posted age + 15 years and posted weight + 15 kg" saying lmao. Can't hardly wait for moving to Prague for long term.

Well, that's an improvement from your home country DwayneJohnson, but I am being generous by saying it is only +5/+5 for Prague. There still are plenty of young girls around if you care to look, but many who I've helped have not reported anything back on this forum. Are they not finding the same success that I have been consistently finding? I certainly hope you don't limit yourself to the available options, but make the effort to seek out the gems. This will be easier for you once you move your base of operations to Prague, long term.

FiddyCent.

[DwayneJohnson]

they always say "posted age + 5 years and posted weight + 5 kg".

This is really an upgrade for me. My home place has "posted age + 15 years and posted weight + 15 kg" saying lmao. Can't hardly wait for moving to Prague for long term.

[FiddyCent]

Hi Fiddy,

To be honest, age really isn't a deciding factor for me just what would be an ideal scenario. I agree with what you said regarding the majority of established and reliable girls being a similar age to me. In a perfect world I would find some university student just starting out who I get on with.

Tapky has been a great resource for narrowing down which massage girls are the best, but it is harder to find reviews of independant girls. Luckilly there are plenty of reviewed girls on EGEscorts and some with legit profiles that I would visit.

Yes! This is why I am considering agencies such as Absolute-czech as they seem to not bait and switch like most agencies do. The girls are expensive at 500 per 2 hours, but as I said I prefer quality over quantity most days. A reputable agency would be a God send and would cut down on the research that we have to do. I do enjoy the deskwork, but it does take up alot of time and sometimes I find myself in my office researching instead of doing my actual work!

I think my plan of action will be to avoid the sauna club as it seems to be a tourist trap, choose a few of my shortlisted escorts to visit, go to Rabbit hall for a few massages (Maybe if I have a good connection with a massuse ask if she does any escorting outside of work), and visit some privats or showpark if funds run low or I need something convinient.

All in all, Prague seems to have many options and I am looking forward to making the most of it.

Hey Rprogta.

It's your money and your trip, so do what you think is right for you. There is something for everyone in Prague. The only thing I would advise, if age is on the back of your mind, is to verify that with the agency before you book. Based on the wisdom of my predecessors, they always say "posted age + 5 years and posted weight + 5 kg".

I would also recommend you not try to ask any massage girl to do escorting work outside of the massage place. That is the main reason why these girls work there and not as an independent in a privat. YMMV, of course. Ask at the end. Who knows? You might be able to charm one of the ladies to visit you outside of her work.

Looking forward to read about your success stories. Just be prepared with several backup plans because things happen very quickly in Prague. You only have five days!

Good luck!

FiddyCent.

[Il Drago]

If you haven't yet observed some forum members have different incentives. It's all capitalism at play, everyone promotes what benefit them most either directly or indirectly in more subtle ways.

Long live capitalism.

[DwayneJohnson]

It definitelly is relative, but not to the girls, but to the place you are paying. For american star at Miami is 5000 usd really nothing, but for east european gal at Brno? Almost "life changing money". Bear in mind that Legal porn pays 2000 eur to gangbang with 5 guys, pissing, HC anal sex. Czech Casting pays 4000 czk for hardcore scene.

I'm not saying, that the girls should not be making money, I'm totally happy for them, when they become rich by doing this.

If you haven't yet observed some forum members have different incentives. It's all capitalism at play, everyone promotes what benefit them most either directly or indirectly in more subtle ways.

[DwayneJohnson]

SA is working in Prague from what I heard but more success you may have on hledamsponzora. Cz or less "obvious" hledammilionare. Cz (I know some girls are there for short term as well) in Czech Republic.

Thanks.

I have Seeking premium account but these two sites are not accepting registration from my country. I would try them out during next trip. Do you know what are expectations of girls in there? On seeking most of the pretty ladies expect to buy a house and a car. Few years ago seeking had a feature displaying girls expectations like ultra luxury, high-end, moderate etc. I am going to start learning Czech to see if that makes a difference.

[Rprogta]

Hi there,

A little info from provider. Privats take their cut as well, depending of course on which one it is, but it is around 30-40%. Never go to privat with thee mindset you have to get laid. Be ready to turn around. Privats are like starting point to most girls. The money are not good thus the best ones make the money and after go out of republic for tour or go independent where they do not share anything. Because of that the turnover is big, and only the less skillful (whether in service or managing her work)/ those with roots in the city will stay. But if girl is great, why to give almost half to pimp when she can have her own privat.

Hi Melissa!

Thanks for the info, funnily enough I checked your site the other day but it seemed to be down (would love to arrange a meet! I think my shortlist of girls found on EuroGirlsEscorts is probably my best bet for now and will be the best quality for the price. I think I have missed the boat to make a connection with a SB and privats / ShowPark will only be a last resort if I want more convinience or a cheaper experience. It seems there are many good independants girls in Prague and after searching through the options I think I have some promising candidates around 250 ph (I know this is higher than typical in Prauge, but I am more than happy to pay this rate if the girl is right).

Hey Rprogta!

You mentioned that you are 25 year old, and are looking for girls that are younger than you. You will soon discover that the well established girls are generally the same age as you, or older. If you do find someone that meets your criteria, then you must vet them through their whatsapp numbers. Inquire about services and ask for their real photos. Lastly, that leaves you with privats. This takes time as well. To succeed, you must find some good reviews on Tapky and Svetaci. Then check their availability on the websites. I have listed them and prices on previous posts, so I won't repeat again. Often times, I have found some of the youngest and most inexperienced girls in the Prague scene, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. If you catch a girl at the right time, she will be very submissive and offer you some of the best and most memorable experiences. The last girl I met at a privat was a University student. Very naturally pretty with not a lot of tattoos. Kind and submissive.

Hi Fiddy,

To be honest, age really isn't a deciding factor for me just what would be an ideal scenario. I agree with what you said regarding the majority of established and reliable girls being a similar age to me. In a perfect world I would find some university student just starting out who I get on with.

Tapky has been a great resource for narrowing down which massage girls are the best, but it is harder to find reviews of independant girls. Luckilly there are plenty of reviewed girls on EGEscorts and some with legit profiles that I would visit.

A: A while back, someone had posted this "seeking" type arrangement, but for a short term visitor, this may not be the best option. Our friend has five days, I believe. He will barely have enough time to orient himself in the city and try to get a girl back to his hotel. He has two options really, go find a reputable escort to visit his hotel, or hit the streets with a list of privats and clubs and try to find a good girl he can hook up with. It is a tough task. I try to help as many as possible cut through all the BS, but the easiest way is for good, legitimate escorts to advertise on this forum. A good website with updated photos, prices, and services offered will do a lot to help. The main problem in Prague, if you agree, is girls are posting fake photos to protect their identities, but at the same time want repeat business. This makes it extremely difficult for the inexperienced to find someone legitimate. I remember a time when a whole host of girls advertised publicly, but if girls are now hiding behind fake profiles, what are visitors to think? I know you tried to start your own mini-agency before and had a few girls work in conjunction with you. Now might be the best time for you to try and re-establish this. If you can link good clients with pretty and submissive girls, that is a recipe for good business. PM me if you have any ideas.

Yes! This is why I am considering agencies such as Absolute-czech as they seem to not bait and switch like most agencies do. The girls are expensive at 500 per 2 hours, but as I said I prefer quality over quantity most days. A reputable agency would be a God send and would cut down on the research that we have to do. I do enjoy the deskwork, but it does take up alot of time and sometimes I find myself in my office researching instead of doing my actual work!

I think my plan of action will be to avoid the sauna club as it seems to be a tourist trap, choose a few of my shortlisted escorts to visit, go to Rabbit hall for a few massages (Maybe if I have a good connection with a massuse ask if she does any escorting outside of work), and visit some privats or showpark if funds run low or I need something convinient.

All in all, Prague seems to have many options and I am looking forward to making the most of it.

[Sebastian Rich]

That is relative. The price of course. For some is peanuts, for some is expensive, for some just the right price. I woud say that Chloer Heart, is exclusive & not too many guys can fuck her, simply because not too many guys can pay 4000-6000 euro. The same goes for Silvia Dellai, Eveline Dellai, Nesty, Zazie Skymm, Sarah Cute, Nikky Thorne & many other porn stars. I can confirm that guys were paying premium prices for Jiya Lissa & Liya Silver, for 24 hours 15000-20000 euro. Of course, they do not escort anymore, I am talking about the time when they did.

It definitelly is relative, but not to the girls, but to the place you are paying. For american star at Miami is 5000 usd really nothing, but for east european gal at Brno? Almost "life changing money". Bear in mind that Legal porn pays 2000 eur to gangbang with 5 guys, pissing, HC anal sex. Czech Casting pays 4000 czk for hardcore scene.

I'm not saying, that the girls should not be making money, I'm totally happy for them, when they become rich by doing this. If they are clever enough to make some good contacts, make some cash and quit soon, only good for them.

I also know, that pornstars usually say, that they don't do escort, because its something different, so you have to over pay them, but I don't know. For me its just a cute fairytale. I've heard stories, that Rika Fane for offered 400 000 czk and refused, but where is the truth, I don't know. And I also know, what Dellai sisters were doing during the parties at Atelier / Dlouha street. This is just a mad world: the.

P.S. About Chloe, you can get way better deal with her. I know her personally very well, so she sometimes share some details about her work and pricing. But of course, price is different for one night at Wienna and 2 hours at apartment at Prague.

[FiddyCent]

Hi there,

A little info from provider. Privats take their cut as well, depending of course on which one it is, but it is around 30-40%. Never go to privat with thee mindset you have to get laid. Be ready to turn around. Privats are like starting point to most girls. The money are not good thus the best ones make the money and after go out of republic for tour or go independent where they do not share anything. Because of that the turnover is big, and only the less skillful (whether in service or managing her work)/ those with roots in the city will stay. But if girl is great, why to give almost half to pimp when she can have her own privat.

Good to hear from you Melissa! It has been a long time! I hope life is treating you well!

Of course, privats do take their cuts of a girl's profits. I believe clubs take as much as 50%, if I am not mistaken. You, yourself started your career at AAA Exclusive, did you not? I would agree that most new girls need to establish themselves somewhere. With the club or privat taking a good chunk of their profits, it is understandable that the girls are not as happy as an independent escort. There are a few tricks to get around that. As you know, I am kind to the girls that I meet, but I do expect certain standards to be met. Overall, I can say that I've only had positive experiences during my visits to Prague.

You must know that time is the enemy to all visitors in Prague. I would also like to take advantage of SA, if I were in Prague for a long stay. I believe this takes a lot of time and patience to find a genuine girl who is prepared to go back to your hotel with you on a first date. Hate to see the guys fall into the gift giving trap, only to be let down at the end of the night. You should turn on your website for others to be able to contact you again. A Prague legend in your own right!

"SA is working in Prague from what I heard but more success you may have on hledamsponzora. Cz or less "obvious" hledammilionare. Cz (I know some girls are there for short term as well) in Czech Republic. You may want to start your homework by now tho:-the. Be prepared they will be not willing to show their face, so be upfront with your photos etc, so you look legit and not like some creep that is just photo collector. In the end, the easiest way to turn off a woman is to ask for pics."
M.

A: A while back, someone had posted this "seeking" type arrangement, but for a short term visitor, this may not be the best option. Our friend has five days, I believe. He will barely have enough time to orient himself in the city and try to get a girl back to his hotel. He has two options really, go find a reputable escort to visit his hotel, or hit the streets with a list of privats and clubs and try to find a good girl he can hook up with. It is a tough task. I try to help as many as possible cut through all the BS, but the easiest way is for good, legitimate escorts to advertise on this forum. A good website with updated photos, prices, and services offered will do a lot to help. The main problem in Prague, if you agree, is girls are posting fake photos to protect their identities, but at the same time want repeat business. This makes it extremely difficult for the inexperienced to find someone legitimate. I remember a time when a whole host of girls advertised publicly, but if girls are now hiding behind fake profiles, what are visitors to think? I know you tried to start your own mini-agency before and had a few girls work in conjunction with you. Now might be the best time for you to try and re-establish this. If you can link good clients with pretty and submissive girls, that is a recipe for good business. PM me if you have any ideas.

FiddyCent.

[FiddyCent]

I have narrowed down a few independents on EurogirlsEscorts that I will contact. I know they are more expensive than with a Privat but the ability to know the girl beforehand and read more about them makes it worth it for me. I am generally of the opinion that a great sexual experience with a gorgeous girl for 300 is better than 3 mediocre experiences with 100 girls (not to say price=quality, in fact my best experience was with someone who was cheap and I wasn't overly attracted too).

I'm 25 yrs old so usually prefer girls younger than me and mostly without the working girl look. This is a hard task to find the perfect girl, but I wouldn't mind paying 500 plus for them, I have never used an agency as there is a risk of bait and switch and they take a cut. However, I have had a look on sites like absolute-Czech and my fair lady and they seem legit? Does anyone have experience with these agencies?

Honestly something like seeking would be best for me where I could find a college age girl and pay her well for her time. However, most sbs prefer a longer term arrangement and I don't think I have the time go through the talking stage. If anyone has any contacts in Prague fitting this description please let me know.

I may also check out SP while I am there, more for the novelty and convenience than anything else. It seems to me like the lHs in Vienna.

Thanks everyone!

Hey Rprogta!

The great thing about Prague is that you have many options. If you rank beauty higher than service, then I would recommend that you go to a club or to Show Park first, although I've just read mostly negative reviews about Sexy Sauna Club. Stuck my head in the place once and did not like the setup. So, I left. No comparison to a German FKK. Look and see before deciding, and YMMV. I also read that massage places have some of the prettiest girls in Prague because they do not offer sex. In all my years, I have never tried a Nuru massage, so I am not the right person to offer advice on this segment of the Prague scene. I have only ever been to one massage place, and had a massage with Czech Pornstar Angel Piaff. You can look her up. There was no sex involved, but I was happy to meet her. Love to see those big pussy lips up close!

As I have said many times before, if you do want a Sugarbaby arrangement, you do need to establish this over time, and lack of time is your enemy. That leaves you with escorts. I would take those advertisements and carefully examine them. Run the photos through Tin Eye and find as many real reviews off the forums. Svetaci or Tapky will list a few of the well known reviewed girls, but you do need to list a few of the girls you are looking at to see if others here have tried them out. You mentioned that you are 25 year old, and are looking for girls that are younger than you. You will soon discover that the well established girls are generally the same age as you, or older. If you do find someone that meets your criteria, then you must vet them through their whatsapp numbers. Inquire about services and ask for their real photos. Lastly, that leaves you with privats. This takes time as well. To succeed, you must find some good reviews on Tapky and Svetaci. Then check their availability on the websites. I have listed them and prices on previous posts, so I won't repeat again. Often times, I have found some of the youngest and most inexperienced girls in the Prague scene, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. If you catch a girl at the right time, she will be very submissive and offer you some of the best and most memorable experiences. The last girl I met at a privat was a University student. Very naturally pretty with not a lot of tattoos. Kind and submissive.

Start building your list. Go back and read some of the posts on this forum. It sounds like you need to do a little bit more homework before you visit. The agencies you listed have been well reviewed here, so start with a search on this newly discovered resource called ISG. Don't let my one opinion sway you away from what you want. I think you already know what you want and just use the available tools to find it. Good luck in your hunt.

FiddyCent.

[Il Drago]

I totally understand, that when there is a buyer, there is a business. But, just bear in mind, that 4-6 euro is somewhere like 3-4 average monthly paycheck (in prague) and somewhere like 5-6 paychecks on the other parts of the Czech Republic. Just saying, that this is just too much, even for the super awesome girl. It does not represent the value. Or it could, but only when the girl would be exclusive, but those girls are not. You can easily be her second or third guy in a row.

That is relative. The price of course. For some is peanuts, for some is expensive, for some just the right price. I woud say that Chloer Heart, is exclusive & not too many guys can fuck her, simply because not too many guys can pay 4000-6000 euro. The same goes for Silvia Dellai, Eveline Dellai, Nesty, Zazie Skymm, Sarah Cute, Nikky Thorne & many other porn stars. I can confirm that guys were paying premium prices for Jiya Lissa & Liya Silver, for 24 hours 15000-20000 euro. Of course, they do not escort anymore, I am talking about the time when they did.