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11-14-07 01:22 #1200
Hi Traveller69.
First of all, congrats and thanks for your posts. Those are exactly what this place is about.
Second, may I apologise for my poor wording in my post. I was not intending to criticise you - after all, I was not there. (Which is why I also used the word 'alleged')
What I was getting at though is that if the lady is telling you that it hurts (especially after all her other tricks), she might be setting you up for a confrontation with the bouncer if you should decide to complain. (ie you complain about her service, and in retaliation she complains that you were rough - guess who management and the bouncer will believe). In that case you might end up not only with a bad experience and losing money, but also a few bruises.
Better to head out the door the minute you get a bad vibe imho - their loss in that case.
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11-13-07 23:32 #1199
Final Prague hints
to summarize my prague experience:
the best report here about the privates is the one of number 3564, in this same trend. although a bit old, it was very useful to me to choose the best privates. privates are listed according to the nearest metro station, very practical. there is a local newspaper named annonce which has advertisements of most privates. however, do not think it is wise just to go to a private without any previous good reports on the services.
if you have an unblocked gsm cell phone just buy a simcard with some credit and you will have a local phone, it is better to avoid the roaming expensive charges and to call the privates, since according to reports here sometimes they just hang up on you if the number that appears in their call identifiers is of foreign origin.
old hint but useful for newbies in prague: never catch a cab in the street, you are bound to be rip****ff. there are several cab companies, the most famous one is aaa-phone 14014. any of the cab companies seem to be fine, but i found aaa perfect- the cab never took more than 10 minutes, even when i was at 3:00am in sex park. the drivers i met spoke decent english and always ask you if you want a receipt with the fare and kilometers.
about the p4p, if you read my posts it is clear that my best experiences were with the privates, although having to wait a while sometimes and having difficulty to find one of them and getting admitted. even if you are more upscale, do not take the privates for granted, they can be great during the day even if you settle an escort or go to a club at night. but privates do demand some previous research.
sweet paradise seems to suck nowadays, not only from my experience but also from the other reports here. as for k5, at least women are pretty there.
travelerb69
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here for more information.
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11-13-07 22:53 #1198
Where do they really work?
From Travelerb69 review of
http://www.escort.cz/lolitkacentrum
http://internationalsexguide.info/fo...postcount=1179
He said that the girls also work escort on prague-independents.com , but at a higher rate.
Does anyone here know where the other girls on this site work in privates or clubs?
Is Marina
http://www.prague-independents.com/p...orts_girls/77/
Carolina at Dessert?
http://praguesexguide.cz/index.php?c=z&gid=6
Vanessa is an old Dessert girl
http://www.prague-independents.com/p...orts_girls/82/
I think Eva is an old Dessert girl
http://www.prague-independents.com/p...orts_girls/71/
Is Helena
http://www.prague-independents.com/p...orts_girls/72/
Juliya at Dessert?
http://praguesexguide.cz/index.php?c=z&gid=5
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11-13-07 22:32 #1197
Originally Posted by Travelerb69
They are also listed on sex-prague.com which seems to be a copy of prague-independents.com
http://www.sex-prague.com/Karina.html
http://www.sex-prague.com/Jane.html
And the same company also seems to be behind this add.
http://www.escort.cz/pragueescorts
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11-13-07 21:52 #1196
End of Prague reports
Ok, this ends my reports in Prague. From there I went to Olomouc(Moravia), Krakow(Poland) and Bratislava(Slovakia), but did no P4P action in these places, just went to bars and discos to hang around and look for freebies. If you think that kind of information is useful for you, the reports of the visits to those places are on the specific trends. I hope these Prague reports will be useful for you fellow mongers.
Travelerb69.
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11-13-07 18:31 #1195
I second Rubberyman’s thoughts. Things never get better once the transaction is made and you are in the room. Usually you can spot the bad attitudes and rip off artists before you commit.
However the way Traveler69 choose to deal with her has come under some criticism.
In my view there was a verbal contract and payment for services. The girl attempted to not live up to her side of the deal and at one point cheat with the leg game. Denying pussy access is a sign of a true rip off. Happens all over the world.
Trav69 simply assisted her in completing her side of the contract; complaining to management would have been useless. They are not going to return money. Nor would they care about one of the girls receiving a vigorous fucking during sex.
His choice was to take the loss or finish and complete the contract. I think he made the correct choice.
Bclaughs
Your assault comment was a little strong.
She received cash for use of her pussy. If she has a problem with her line of work she should find another job. The clubs in Prague are not a romantic situation, this is all about money and sex.
If you like to spend money, enjoy a woman’s company and not receive sex get thee quickly to any city in the USA.
You will be in heaven…….
Guido88
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11-13-07 17:07 #1194
Sex Park
One of the good surprises. Although having read some good reports here,I still had the idea of a dirty and filthy place. No way. Very clean, organized, women are friendly to talk to,not too pushy. I went there 3 days, but banged just once. There were always some new women, so it is a bit of a hit and miss. Very easy to get there, no point in repeating it here since the directions heve been reported here before. Just one hint, when you reach the bus stop after taking the subway, back to the river, follow to the right, since first time I got ther I went in the wrong direction, no big deal, soon realized I was wrong. I fucked Monika, a russian girl.Weird thing is that she was there the first time I went, we talkede for a while but did not bang her, she told me she was russian. But when I returned she did not rember me and said she was czech. I told her that, she was embarrassed and ended up telling me there is prejudice towards russian in CZ. However it might be true, regarding p4p russians surely have a good reputation. Actuallly, silly as it is, I picked her most for her nationality, since I had never fucked a russian before ... Standard sex there is oral with condom, no kissing at all,no DATY, but we changed positions, lots of caressing, she really seemed to enjoy it... And it is so convenient, like a fast-food sex, you can go there even if you have just one hour avaiable.
Prices are 1000czk half an hour and 2000 czk one hour plus 60 cz to enter the place. I did not feel worried about having my stuff stolen, of course when I took a shower I kept my things very close to me , but that should be done everywhere. By the way, in all 3 times I was there 95% of the girls were fuckable, I did not in two o the vists because I had already fuckede in the privates and was not horny. But women ther in terms of looks are FAR BETTER , let's say 9 to 3 than the present team in Sweet Paradise.And most speak fairly good english, do not look so hardened... Monika told me it was her first week as a sex professional, and somehow I believed her, it is not a low-end place, it is a normal p4p spot.
I would certainly go there again.
Monika
Russina, blond, a bit short but athletic, said she used to be a ballet dancer, who knows?
face 7,5
body 8,5
performance 7,0-no DFK, no DATY, no OWO, but friendly and caressing anyway
TravelerB69
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11-13-07 16:37 #1193
Darling
Darling,
I went there already aware of the high prices and low services, so I went just to have a glance, I would never pay their prices, I do not remember exactly but beginning with something like 3.500 for half an hour, if I am not wrong. It is not a question of affording it or not, but of cost /benefit and feeling ripped-off. From what I saw there, I think most people who go there go with this attitude of just hanging around, grab some ass, watch strip shows and not have real sex. Some beauties, I was approached several times but they were not that pushy, except for one African that was really a pain in the ass, I made it very clear to her I would not bang her and every 5 minutes she came to give it a try to seduce me…
Very close to Wenceslaw square, I think the place deserves a visit, but for real sex in terms of cost/benefit it is not worthy…Stayed there for may be 2 hours, grabbed some asses, drank some beers and left the place. Pretty women but nothing extraordinary, at least for my taste.
If you are into Darling and want to go there in a low profile, that is the way to do it, in the picture below, I think you have already seen it but I found it funny at first sight...
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11-13-07 16:06 #1192
K5 report
I was there at about 10:00 pm on a thursday, very friendly staff, even the enormous bouncers were friendly. I told them it was my first visit, one of the girls showed me around and after a while I just sat and watched the girls. Most were blonds, just a few brunettes. There were some strip shows, and all the girls at the place had their photos and a profile including height, nationality, at the famous screens on the tables. There were russians, ukranians, Czech, Slovakian and two brazilian morenas, not exactly or mulatas. Soon I realized that the best girls were already busy or with customers, so I guess it is better to arrive earlier. No one was pushy at all, was not approached by anyone, and the woman who had received me, I do not know if is she is a kind of a manager told me to call her when I wanted to meet some of the girls. Talked to a very nice czech girl, IRA, about her early 30s still very attractive who told me she used to work at german FKK and had just returned to Czech. Wow, I thought, that one must provide good service, from what I read here in the forum, but when I asked her about bbj, dfk and daty she said it was all extra, fkk is fkk and k5 is k5, her weird answer. so I moved to another girl. I saw one girl somewhat a bit skinny for my taste but very friendly and we started a good conversation. Suzana was her name, different name for a Czech, I thought. Excelent grasp of English, very intelligent, about 23, a college student in Prague. Although being not that attractive to me and by lack of better options I decided to try her, although being already warned by her she would not provide DFK, OWO or DATY. But that seems to be the rule there.
Sex was just reasonable, I think it is impossible to be hot without Kissing and DATY, she was nice but no big deal. Since I was not expecting that much I booked her jus for just half an hour, one hour without extra has no point to me, since it is impossible to get the woman involved. After the session she stayed with me for quite a while at the bar. Thought it would be for my beautiful eyes rs,rs,rs but then she told me it is compulsory doing that for them… Anyway, although sex was not good, I liked the girls personality. And when she left me the woman who had received came to ask me if everything was ok, they seem to care about their customers there.
BUT, on the other hand, as far is sex is concerned, it seems that this cold, not GFE attitude from the girls is bared if not supported by the management.
When I was checking out, there were some drinks added to my bill which neither any of the girls had drunk, I told them that, a waiter was called and after a while they agreed with me and took it out of the bill.
By the way, the drinks for the girls are at the same prices as the ones for the customers, no rip-off. My impression is that it is very difficult if not impossible to get GFE there, something I already expected from what I had read here in the forum. Some pretty nice women there, though, despite the service, and I think it is wise to get before 9:00 to pick the best girls. And again, despite being a much more expensive place, I surely had by far better service in the privates, just see my previous reports.
Suzana
Face- 8,0
Body- 7,0
Service-7,0.
Personality-10. Ok, we do not p4p for that , but she was very interesting concerning that...
Travelerb69
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11-13-07 14:54 #1191
Vinoradská 72 ???
As a whole the privates were my best experiences in Prague by far, not only for the cost/benefit but also it was where I found the best sex. Again it comes the rule of P4P that not always the more money gets the best sex. I went to K5, for instance(will report later) and sex was not good.
But Privates in Prague have theirs cons also. I already knew it from the research in the forum but when it gets real it can be very frustrating. I looked for only three privates, all of them recommended here before , and was able to find them all, and all provided good services. Of course I chose them specifically for the good previous reports, that is the aim of the forum. But I think it will be useful to report an incident while trying to get one of the Discreet locations.
I had already been to one of Discreet “ branches” at Belerodska, but in one evening at about 8:00 I decided to go there again. Zusca was not there- by the way, generally she works there just in the mornings and afternoons, I remembered now.
So, another czech girl answered the phone- it is always the same number, a cell phone.
- Hello, is Zuskca available?
- No Zuska.
- Is she busy or not there right now?
- ….
- Hello?
- …
- Ok, where are you right now?
- Said something in szcech
- Ok, ADRESS, ADRESS apparently the word for other adrress in czech is similar, they understand.
- Vinoradská 72.
- Ok. How many girls available?
- Vinoradská 72.
- Ok, I know the adress, can you call someone that speaks english?
- Vinoradská 72
- …..
Looked at the map, found the street, behind the museum in Venceslaw Square, seemed close but it was not. After 20 minutes walk called again to know if they were still there, as they change very often.
- Hello, are you still in Vinoradská 72?
- Vinoradská 72 .
- OK.
After 20 more minutes, this location is not so close, I got to the building- 40 minutes walk in a whole. Then called again from the door to get in.
-Hello, it is me again, I just called, I am already at the door, can you open it for me?
- Stepanská 77.
Ok, I already know the address, open the DOOR, DOOR, OPEN THE DOOR
- Stepanská 77.
- I know the ADDRRES, … WHAT???? Stepanská 77? YOU HAVE MOVED? No way, open the door..
- Stepanská 77…
Then I realized they had just moved. I had to walk all the way again, at least his street was not so far way, may be 20 minutes. Then got there, checked the number of the building and called again.
- Hello, it is me again, I just called, I am already at the door, can you open it for me?
- Stepanská 77…
- Ok, I already know the address, open the DOOR, DOOR, OPEN THE DOOR
- Stepanská 77.
And the fucking door would never open.
I called again-
- DOOR, DOOR, OPEN….
-Stepanská 77
-Then I called again again and again until they started to hang on the phone on me, yes, they do that also. Probably spent half an hour trying to enter. The girl could not understand even that I was already at the door.
- Got back frustrated, still horny, hungry and tiered.
Next time I was with Zuskca I told her the story and she laughed to tearshttp://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/028.gif, said she even know which girl had probably talked to me on the phone, said she does that all the time, just keeps repeating the address.
So, as you see, finding privates can be very annoying… Try to got to the previously reported here and always cal ahead even if you have already been there, and expect some delay because all girls can be busy. Anyway, I think they are still worthy.
Travelerb69.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.
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11-13-07 13:33 #1190
Privat- Discreet-721849290
From what I had researched here in the forum before the trip, this is supposed to be one of the best and oldest privates in Prague. A bit more expensive , 2000 czk for one hour, covered blow job.I banged just with Zusca, who already have been reported here in the forum. First of all, I had lots of difficult to find their place. They have at least three different locations, one in Belehradska 62, near Radost- metro IP Pavlova, one in Stepanska 77 and the other in Vinohradská 72, these 2 somewhat near Vencelaws square, but not so close. They change from place to place in a criteria I was not able to figure out. You have to call them and find out where they are at the moment, and aparently sometimes two of the places are open at the same time, sometimes not.
Zusca is the only one who speakes decent english, very good, by the way. All the others who answered were simply not able to speak english at all, just kept repeating the current address in which they are, and even that is difficult to understand .
So for instane, if yo ask:
Is OWO included?
The answer will be- Stepanska 77.
.... Ok, I know the adress, but is DFK included?
- Stepanska 77 ...http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/058.gif
It may soud funny now but when you face it real it is very, very frustrating. So I was able to find the place only when Zusca answered the phone.
A hint- SMS them asking for their presente address if you do not underastnad. After sometime Zusca will answer you. As a matter of fact, after I first send an SMS, she kept sending SMSs to me almost every day, like-are you coming tody? I am avaiable from 3 to 4-30, and it was not because she fel in love with me, she is just a bit pushy ...http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/058.gifconcernign Z
Zusca- very friendly, speaks very good english. Brunette, short hair, beautiful eyes, slim but not skinny. She does not kiss in the mouth and does not do BBBJ. Eventhough, I really enjoyed the session with her, did that twice. Daty and 69 are available, she really enjoys it .
I had a look at two other girls but did not like theirs looks, and do not know their names.
Zusca(or Zuscka), do not remember.
Face- 9,0
Body- 8,5
Perfomance-8,0 , no kissing in the mouth or BBBJ.
Price-2000czk for one hour.
A bit more expensive and less services provided then the other two privates mentioned before, but I would repeat it anyway, at least with Zusca.
Travelerb69
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11-13-07 13:03 #1189
Private- Sleska 134- 602865954
This private is located in the same street as Sweet Paradise, about ten minutes walk. Again there is the problem o f getting admitted, I went there 3 times and in all of them after calling from the door had to wait for a while (ten minutes, more or less). I banged Eva and Wendy. There was another girl working there but I never saw her, she was always busy.
Wendy- A gem, the very best of this trip. Almost a non-pro, brunette, short hair, green eyes, some tatoos, very, very atractive, mainly the face,says she is 22. We talked for a while and she mentioned being half czech, half italian, which seemed true because she spoke perfect italian indeed. At first she was a bit shy, avoided DFK, but after a brief time things got really good and she got involved. DFK, 69, OWO, GFE, it was as if I was banging a girlfriend. I just doubled the session and stayed for 2 hours. One problem: she is a student and said she does not go there everyday. I banged her once more after a week but for several times I called and she was not there. If she is there, highly recomended.
Wendy
Price- 1500 CZK, OWO included, one hour session.
Body-8
Face- 9,5
Performance-10,0
The other girl I bangede was Eva. Very young, said she is 19, may be she is. Also brunette, not as pretty as Wendy, but definetely also recomended. OWO, DFK, 69, not as GGFE as Wendy but very good still.
Eva
Price- 1500 CZK, OWO included, one hour session.
Body-8
Face- 8,5
Performance-9,0
Travelerb69
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11-13-07 12:34 #1188Hey, Rubberyman and Bclaughs, Originally Posted by Bclaughs
You have misanderstood my post, or either I have not make myself clearly understood whlie reporting. I am a gentleman, treat women/sex professionals very well, regardless of who or where they are. I did not not "assault"the girl at all, I just fucked her doggish (in the pussy, of course), and when I said she complained about pain it was not that she was yelling or something, it was clear it was a "script" complain, and it lasted just for a while. To summarize, I just kept fucking (normally, deep, yes) and did not change the position and quit trying to get us both envolved, since I realized she would not get envolved anyway. I just kept to my ground that I wanted to fuck her from behind because in that way she would not try the game for not allowing deep (normal) penetration or pretending my dick to be inside. And of course I did not hurt her, I just fucked her in a normal way, not with just half my dick inside or may be outside the way she wanted. And believe, I have just an average dick. It was not my intent to look "macho" in the report either, that would be ridiculous, and besides the fact that I would never assault a woman, I am quite experienced in P4P and am quite aware that people who do that in a place like SP or any other of course would have great problems with bouncers or whoever runs the place, you do not have to tell me that.
I read my post again and still do not see where you got that impression from, but be sure it was the way I am describing it now. And about the two types of men who go to P4P that you mentioned I agree with you and I am certeanly among those who go to have fun while having respect for the women and whenever possible having fun together.
I understand that we should have a policy of avoiding any trends/mongers who show violence to woman but that is not the case here at all.
Travelerb69
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11-13-07 11:54 #1187
You are right Mandrake, it is Vodickova 32, not Bereskova 32
You are right Mandrake, it is Vodickova 32, not Bereskova 32, I made a confusion while reading my notes. It is very close to Wenceslau Square.And one of the times I went there I had to wait for almost one hour, it is very common in Prague's privates , but at least they told me it would take long.
Jackson, is it possible that you edit the adress so as to avoid mongers going to the wrong place?
Travelerb69.
Originally Posted by Mandrake
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11-13-07 11:38 #1186
I'd like to make a comment on the subject of Sweet Paradise and the couple of comments previously.
First of all, there have been a number of negative reports on the place and all with the same flavour. Secondly it is way expensive.
Given that, I should argue that it certainly cannot be classified as a 'must see' experience in Prague. By all means, those who like it and don't mind the outrageous charges should continue to visit, but I reckon there is a big warning sign hanging over it.
Next point is that doing things that either hurt or allegedly hurt the ladies are asking for the bouncer.
However, in this case, Traveller69 has a lesson for us all - if the lady gives off bad vibes up front - don't proceed, as it will inevitably end up with a totally wasted experience. Far better to heed the warning, leave the place with a full wallet and then get a better service for half the price elsewhere. That way good providers get rewarded and the bad ones are left without clients. Isn't that what this forum is about?
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