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[Dreams]

The horny men need sex and the girls need money.

They will soon find ways for the men to pay the girls without getting caught by law enforcement, that is if France will even enforce this new law.

Agree.

What this law may change is the street prostitution. It is likely that punters will be more cautious about this, and therefore will diminish this activity.

For instance, I will not take the risk to wander around in the Bois de Boulogne, risking to be caught by plain clothes police. I am not worried about a fine, but having to explain to the family what I was doing there, and why I ended up in a police van. Good deterrent.

For the rest, nothing will change, home based girls, M'Ps. Clubs etc. will continue to be open for business.

And yes, if you can take the first Thalys to Brussels or Cologne.

[LukeSkywalker]

There should be many "girls" working on Boulevarde Des Anglaises.

Just be careful, many are transsexuals.

Just a quick report. Just returned from Nice and stayed right at the airport. SW's right out front. Just for a remote possibility I checked. Most were like my Grandmother and others were a 1 or 2 on a scale of 10 (10 being the best). Saw one who was marginally acceptable. Asked her price. 100 Euro's for 30 minutes! Might be worth it to some people, but not my choice. Stayed alone and was glad I saved my money. Mrclen

[LukeSkywalker]

The horny men need sex and the girls need money.

They will soon find ways for the men to pay the girls without getting caught by law enforcement, that is if France will even enforce this new law.

It's official; the bill has been passed. Here's the story:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25217185

[LukeSkywalker]

Many sweet-looking models in Paris.

Here are 186 ladies in Lyon waiting for your telephone call (and your money) :

http://search.vivastreet.com/escort-...520&end_field=

Here are 120 ladies (21 yrs < 40 yrs to receive you for 'massage érotique' in Lyon:

http://www.wannonce.com/rencontres-a...text4=1&num6=6

And 16 classy Escortgirls in Lyon if you feel like spending over 200 euros per hour (type Lyon in the search field) :

http://www.fr69.com/annuaire.php?Theme=5

Finally 30 beautiful English speaking ladies with private apartments longing to see you (and your money).

http://www.6annonce.com/escorts/city... af=i_1; l=en;

They were not so hard to find Knobbyxx.

[Dirty Old Voyeur]

It's official; the bill has been passed. Here's the story:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25217185

[Green Banana]

I bet this new regulation won't help this country to recover its joie de vivre. Anyway it's a long time that Paris is no more 'A Moveable Feast', nor France a punter's paradise. Good times narrated by Uncle Ernst are gone for long. And along the 30 last years, situation just became worse.

France is a place to come with Mummy and the kids. Pay the due visits to Versailles, Le Louvre, and so on. Get an overpriced meal in a 3 stars restaurant. Enjoy the countryside, the wines, the bars. When you'll be bored (shouldn't take too long) , pretend you got business to deal with in Germany (or Spain, NL, Portugal, Germany, etc.) and escape for two days, leaving the family behind. When back, just fly home!

[MrClen]

Just a quick report. Just returned from Nice and stayed right at the airport. SW's right out front. Just for a remote possibility I checked. Most were like my Grandmother and others were a 1 or 2 on a scale of 10 (10 being the best). Saw one who was marginally acceptable. Asked her price. 100 Euro's for 30 minutes! Might be worth it to some people, but not my choice. Stayed alone and was glad I saved my money. Mrclen

[PunterWanderer]

Voilà, they seem not to have noticed the abrupt change of legislation about prostitution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVRz0mx2nDY

Sorry, it is in french. Basically it talks about the protest of the residents of this village in France, where an increasing number of SW work along the national road for many kilometers every day, f*k everywhere, also in privately owned gardens, etc... I don't know, maybe someone can sustain that they cause also road accidents...

It's an endless issue: maybe they can alert the police, but the only result is that they move some kilometers farther. It's the same thing with an anti-mongering law. The problem is only sweep under the carpet.

[PunterWanderer]

It's always the same story: from time to time some unknown member of parliament comes out with a new punitive law against punters. Once the conservatives, once the socialists. It doesn't hurt anyone for each person to speak a lots with the brain turned off. Of course, IMHO France has others, much important, problems than criminalize the prostitution.

Nevertheless, France is already one of the worst countries for mongering in Europe, probably only scandinavian countries are even worst. Depressing p4p scene, a lot of rip-off, the good sexual services - which of course exist - and escorts / loft girls are overpriced, etc. Someone could say that an anti-mongering law may be an occasion to have clarity about p4p in France. So, every punter can cross out France from mongering-list.

As for me, I can only say that I haven't seen any change in the SW scene in Paris. Just a couple of night ago I took my periodic mongering tour in Boulevard de Belleville, and nothing was changed: the same Chinese SW, the same rates, the same service.

French bill would criminalize paying for sex (September 2013)

Proposed legislation may outlaw paying for sex in France while giving prostitutes who are victims of sexual violence easier access to legal support. The preliminary text does not enjoy universal support.

Paying for sex in France may soon become a criminal offence, according to a forthcoming bill whose details were made public this week.

The proposed legislation would also overturn a 2003 law that penalises prostitutes overtly offering their services, rules that were intended to reduce the presence of sex workers in the streets but instead led prostitutes to 'dress down' while plying their trade.

'We are going to turn the law on its head, ' said Socialist Member of Parliament Maud Olivier, who authored a report that will be the basis of the bill. 'Prostitutes are victims and should not be treated like criminals. '

'The law is intended to reduce violence towards prostitutes and to get it into the general mindset that paying for sexual services is not acceptable. We need to destroy the idea that prostitution is a happy trade, ' she said, adding that of the estimated 40, 000 sex workers in France. 80 percent are women and 90 percent are immigrants.

'They're doing this in the name of women's rights and it will be a disaster. It's just a cheap political move that will do nothing but harm. '

[LifeIsABeach]

French bill would criminalize paying for sex (September 2013)

Proposed legislation may outlaw paying for sex in France while giving prostitutes who are victims of sexual violence easier access to legal support. The preliminary text does not enjoy universal support.

Paying for sex in France may soon become a criminal offence, according to a forthcoming bill whose details were made public this week.

The proposed legislation would also overturn a 2003 law that penalises prostitutes overtly offering their services, rules that were intended to reduce the presence of sex workers in the streets but instead led prostitutes to 'dress down' while plying their trade.

'We are going to turn the law on its head, ' said Socialist Member of Parliament Maud Olivier, who authored a report that will be the basis of the bill. 'Prostitutes are victims and should not be treated like criminals. '

'The law is intended to reduce violence towards prostitutes and to get it into the general mindset that paying for sexual services is not acceptable. We need to destroy the idea that prostitution is a happy trade, ' she said, adding that of the estimated 40, 000 sex workers in France. 80 percent are women and 90 percent are immigrants.

The bill, which is due to be debated by the National Assembly (lower house) and the Senate starting in November, sets out progressive fines of up to 1, 500 euros for a first offence, to 7, 500 euros and six months' imprisonment for repeat offenders.

It would also give prostitutes who are victims of sexual violence easier access to legal residency in France, while opening the doors to suing pimps who force them to sell their bodies.

The move was welcomed by campaign group 'Mouvement du Nid', an association that helps prostitutes find justice in the case of sexual violence and exploitation by criminal networks.

'Women who sell their bodies for sex are not harming anyone and they shouldn't be seen as criminals, ' said the Mouvement du Nid's General Secretary Gregoire Thery.

'All the harm to the individuals involved and to society in general is committed by clients who are sexually violent towards prostitutes.

'This law will protect women. For the first time in French history it gives them the opportunity to tell clients who are violent or make unwelcome demands that they can be arrested and punished for committing an illegal act. '

'It will be a disaster'

The proposal does not have universal support, however, and organisations representing sex workers claim it would push prostitution further underground and subject women to increased risks.

AIDS advocacy group Act Up and French NGO Medecins du Monde (Doctors of the World) were among around 100 organisations who signed a petition against the proposition, arguing that it would "make prostitutes more vulnerable".

'Manon', a Paris prostitute who is spokeswoman for the STRASS sex workers union, told FRANCE 24 the bill would 'do exactly the opposite of what it is designed to achieve'.

'Prostitutes will have to work more clandestinely to protect their clients, putting them at greater danger of violence and further away from sexual health services, ' she said.

'It also means a drop in the number of clients, making it harder for us to make a living, ' she added. 'This in turn means that punters will be in a stronger position to pressure prostitutes into doing things they don't want to do, including having unprotected sex.

'They're doing this in the name of women's rights and it will be a disaster. It's just a cheap political move that will do nothing but harm. '

[Doctor Popper]

I currently am planning a trip here.

Where and how is the best place for some action during the day? Say around the afternoon?

Fabien.

Look at the Vivastreet site and Wannonce site for girls who offer massage in their home, and also check out the Chinese girls around metros Belleville and Strasbourg-St-Denis. I have found three or four massage parlors who offer FS as well.

Dr. P

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[Fabien]

I currently am planning a trip here.

Where and how is the best place for some action during the day? Say around the afternoon?

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