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  1. #877

    Chinese&Chinese

    Today I decided to check the scene with the Chinese’s on the Grand Boulevard, (Metro Strasbourg Saint Denis) in front of the Mac Donald and the KFC.
    In fact they were many, I stayed there 30 minutes and I spotted at least 30 different.
    Very easy to recognize them , they walk pretty slow, alone or by pair, if you make eye contact they will respond immediately.
    I did not bother taking one, as all the ones I have seen had a lot of miles.

    So I went back to the 12th district as I think the Chinese there are of better quality.

    Just one thing , if you are by foot , the Chinese in Paris Center are a better choice , if you are by car go to the ones in the 12th district,.
    But today , I found a pleasant alternative:
    I noticed few not so bad looking Chinese around a small public garden on the Boulevard Soult (square Emile something) and in this garden there is a public toilet. (I am not a public toilet fan as normally they are smelly and dirty, but this one is pretty large and very clean)
    I approached one of the girls and pointed the toilet; we did the deed in the toilet, doggy style for the usual 30€
    I thought it was a pleasant change for once.
    Denis

  2. #876

    Finding escorts on the web

    I'm not sure this Internet ressource which proves pretty helpful with finding escorts in France has been mentioned here yet :

    http://escort.vivastreet.fr . It is actually a free classifieds website.

    If you're specifically looking for heterosexual female escorts in or near Paris, then directly click :

    http://escort.vivastreet.fr/escort-g...+ile-de-france

    Most classifieds have pictures. All of them are in French. Many of them contain a mobile phone number (click on the link "Telephone" top/right of the ad). Most girls say they both can have intercouse at their place or in your hotel. I doubt the French ones speak English, but it looks like many are South-Americans or Eastern Europeans, so you might have a go with these.

    I've read reports on girls advertising on this website on a French board. Seems like it's a mix bag. Some are great, some are not. To be honest I've never used any of these girls' services, but I am considering. Prices seem to be between 150 and 200 euros/hour.

  3. #875
    Quote Originally Posted by Piper1
    Sure, if you're happy to pay that much for a quickie. I paid 200Euro for her Eurostar ticket, plus about another 200 for dinners, swingers club entry and some lingerie. 400Euro for two days and nights of fun and adventures with an exotic sex maniac seems better value than 250 an hour for a P4P girl, IMHO.
    Yes Piper, you're right, but you are dealing with a freebie here ... with all the trouble of stopping the relationship with her. As senior members often say on this forum: you pay for letting her go.
    I have tried the freebie scene with success, but I feel ashamed of abandoning broken hearts in my path. With paid performers, there are no hurt feelings when it's time to go.
    Regards.
    Last edited by Bimbo Boy; 09-17-06 at 17:27. Reason: P4P versus freebies

  4. #874

    Paris sucks for P4P

    Quote Originally Posted by Euro100
    What I read confirmed what I thought I already knew from previous trips: Paris sucks when it comes to P4P ... Does anybody know of any place in Paris that is somwhat comparable in quality to the big Frankfurt-area FKKs (Oase, Palace, FKKW)? euro
    Dear Euro. YES, Paris sucks for P4P, and as I know, NO there is no place in Paris or in France comparable to the FKK's. Too bad!

  5. #873

    Update on the scene in the 12th district

    I went today at lunch time to check the scene near the Porte de Saint Mandé, Porte de Vincennes and Porte de Charenton.
    It seems that the Chineses are back , I saw many, but not one attractive.
    They try to be discreet but you can spot them immediately.
    Finally I found a bbw girl from Serbia on the boulevard de la Guyanne.
    30 years old and new to the business she said, in fact I could believe it as she had difficulties to put the cover on!
    If you are a tits lover that 's the girl! , Nice firm tits, usual asked prices 25 for CBJ and 40 for FS in the car.
    As she was pretty friendly I took her to a near by hotel, and had a very nice service for 50 with extra ball.
    DEnis

  6. #872

    Paris Swinger Clubs

    I will be visiting Paris next week and like to try out some of the swinger's clubs. Thanks for Routard's comprehensive list here. Some previous threads also recommended finding an escort to go as a couple.

    Wonder if some more advice could be given on the following;

    - Any suggestions on how to find such escorts? What is the price range expected for one swinger's club evening?
    - Any clubs which may be more "cosmopolitan" in accepting non-French speakers or Asian?

    Thanks a lot!

    Quote Originally Posted by Routard
    Following the famous Kaleu's Club list of Germany, I enjoyed making the Routard's Club list for Holland, as well as for Belgium (see the Netherlands and Belgium threads).

    This is the complete list of french swinger's club in Paris and surroundings.

    Let me be very clear: there are no brothels, pick'up bars, massage parlor sauna or any other public places that offer paid sex in France. Paid sex can be offered outside with street action, in a private appartment or at your hotel with an escort, BUT NOT in a public place. If it is offered, it can only be a ripp off.

    In a swinger club, once the entrance is paid, sex is offered for free. But for a single, it is hit or miss. Sex is not guaranteed. A good advice for a single is always to call before, and be smart dressed, it will be easier to enter. Avoid the afternoon's, there will be mostly singles.

    L’Abys
    13 rue d’Argenteuil Paris
    Phone : 01 42 61 68 28
    Open : Daily 4pm-8pm and 10.30pm till…
    Homepage: www.l’abys.net

    Aphrodite
    70 avenue Kleber Paris
    Phone : 01 47 04 00 00
    Open : Daily 11am-9pm

    Atlandide Sauna Hamman
    13 rue Parrot Paris
    Phone: 01 43 42 22 43
    Open: Daily 12am-10pm
    Entrance: 20€/single 18€/couple
    Misc: sauna, hamman, solarium, video, bar

    La Caverne de Venus
    114 avenue André Morizet Boulogne
    Phone : 01 46 04 13 08
    Homepage: www.lacavernedevenus.com
    Open : Mon-Sat 2pm-7pm and 9pm-1am Sun 3pm-9pm
    Misc: bar, hammam, sauna

    Le Chateau
    103 rue Marcadet Paris
    Phone: 01 42 58 13 01
    Homepage: www.chateau-donjon.com
    Open : Mon-Sat 10.30pm-5am
    Entrance 80€/single 60€/couple

    Les Chandelles
    1, rue Thérèse Paris
    Phone : 01 42 60 43 21
    Homepage : www.les-chandelles.com
    Open : Mon-Fri 4pm-9pm Mon-Sat 10.30 till…
    Price : 0€/couple afternoon 72€/couple evening 36€/single afternoon 100€/single evening

    La Cheminee
    11 rue des Fossés Saint Marcel Paris
    Phone : 01 47 07 66 66
    Homepage : www.club-cheminee.com
    Open : Mon, Wed, Fri, Sun 4pm-8pm Tue, Thu, Sat 12.30am-8pm

    Chris et Manu
    5 Rue Saint Bon Paris
    Phone : 01 42 72 52 18
    Homepage : www.Chris-Manu.com

    Le Cinq Et Plus
    5 Rue de la Famille Aribault Emerainville
    Phone : 01 60 17 30 08
    Homepage : www.le5etplus.fr
    Open : Wed, Thu, Fri 4pm-8pm Daily 9pm-till…

    Cris et Chuchautements
    9 rue Truffaut Paris
    Phone : 01 42 93 70 21
    Homepage : www.cris-et-chuchautements.com

    Club Deux Plus Deux
    9 Bouleveard Edgard Quinet
    Phone : 01 43 35 14 00
    Homepage: www.2plus2.fr
    Open : Daily 2pm-till…
    Misc: restaurant

    Au Dix Bis
    10bis rue du Débarcadère
    Phone : 01 45 74 12 32
    Homepage : www.au10bis.com
    Open : Mon-Fri 1pm-7pm and Tue- Thu 10pm-till…for couple+single
    Fri-Sat 10pm-till… couple
    Misc: restaurant

    Emmanuelle Club
    24 rue Vavin Paris
    Phone ;: 01 43 25 76 93
    Homepage : www.emmanuelleclub.com
    Open : Tue, Fri, Sat 10.30 pm-till…couple; Mon 9pm-till…Tue, Fri 4pm-8pm, Thu 1pm-8pm, Sun 7pm-till… couple+single
    Misc: restaurant

    L’Escapade Club
    8 rue Le Regrattier
    Phone : 01 43 25 76 93
    Homepage : www.lescapadeclub.com
    Open : Daily 10pm-till…couple+single
    Entrance: 65€/single 20€/couple

    Le Four à Pain
    19, rue Guy Moquet Paris
    Phone : 01 42 29 07 30
    Homepage: www.le-fourapain.com
    Open : Tue-Sat 2.30pm-7.30pm 9pm-till…Fri and Sat evening couple only
    Misc : restaurant cabaret

    L’Hyppocampe Paris
    11, rue Pixerecourt Paris
    Phone : 01 55 96 20 34
    Homepage : www.hyppocampe.com
    Open : Wed-Sun 2pm-7pm 9.30pm-2am couples only Fri afternoon and Wed-Fri evening
    Misc: Sauna hammam

    L’Hyppocampe Saint Maur
    25 rue Jules Ferry Saint Maur
    Phone : 01 55 96 20 34
    Homepage : www.hyppocampe.com
    Open : Tue-Sun 2pm-9pm 9.30-2am couple only Wed afternoon and Wed, Sat evening
    Misc : sauna hammam

    Club Nautilus
    18 Rue Feydeau Paris
    Phone : 01 40 41 98 58
    Homepage : www.lenautilus.net
    Open : Mon-Fri 1pm-8pm Wed-Sat 10.30pm-til…couple only
    Entrance: 47€/couple afternoon 62€/couple evening

    No Comment
    36 rue de Ponthieu Paris
    Phone : 01 43 59 23 95
    Homepage : www.nocommentclub.com
    Open : Wed-Sun 11pm-till…couple only
    Entrance: 68€

    Les Nuits de Venus
    9, rue du Pelican Paris
    Phone : 01 40 13 98 77
    Homepage: www.lesnuitsdevenus.com
    Open : Daily 4pm-8pm 10.30pm-till…couple+single

    Overside
    92 Rue du Cherche Midi Paris
    Phone : 01 42 84 10 20
    Homepage : www.overside.fr
    Open : Mon-Tue Thu-Sat 10.30 pm-till…couple only Wed, Sun 8.30pm-till…couple+single
    Entrance: 63€/couple only 48€/couple 96€/single

    Au Papillon
    84 rue Saint Honoré Paris
    Phone : 01 42 36 37 26
    Homepage: www.lepapillonclub.com
    Open : Mon-Fri 1pm-7pm Mon-Sat 10.30 pm till… Thu afternoon only for couple
    Entrance : 0€/couple afternoon 40€/couple evening 30€/single afternoon 85€/single evening

    Au Pluriel Club
    13 Rue François Miron Paris
    Phone : 01 40 29 07 52
    Homepage: www.plurielclub.com
    Open : Tue-Sun 7pm-2am
    Misc: buffet

    Le Prelude
    1, Rue Richelieu Paris
    Phone : 01 42 60 31 60
    Homepage : www.le-prelude.com
    Open : Mon-Fri 4pm-8pm 10.30pm-till… Sat 10.30pm-till Sun 4pm-7pm 8pm-till
    Entrance: 0€/couple afternoon 31€/ couple evening 30€/single afternoon 85€/single evening

    Quai 17
    17 quai de l’Oise Paris
    Phone : 01 42 05 64 64
    Homepage : www.quai17.net
    Open : Tue-Fri, Sun 9pm-till… Sat 10pm-till…couple only Wed
    Entrance: 50€/couple 100€/single

    Le Roi René
    184 avenue de Versailles Ville d’Avray
    Phone : 01 47 50 25 30
    Homepage : www.roi-rene.com
    Open : Mon-Sat 9am-till Wed 1pm-7pm couple only Fri and Sat
    Entrance : 50€/couple 100€/single

    Au Sultana
    62 Rue Jean Baptiste Paris
    Phone : 01 48 78 15 75
    Open : Daily 11am-9pm 10.30 pm-till…
    Homepage: www.lesultana.com
    Entrance: 0€/couple afternoon 50€/couple evening 70€/single afternoon100€/single evening
    Misc: Jacuzzi, hamman, sauna

    Ray et Maya
    19, avenue Quihou Saint Mandé
    Phone : 01 43 28 20 24
    Homepage: www.raymaya.com
    Open : Mon-Fri 5pm-8pm 10.30pm-till…Sat 10.30pm till…

    Sauna Club Provence
    66, rue de Provence Paris
    Phone : 01 53 20 06 27
    Open : Mon-Fri 10am-9pm Sat Sun 11am-9pm
    Misc: sauna hammam

    Club Treize
    13, rue Dussoubs Paris
    Phone : 01 40 28 13 69
    Open : Mon-Fri 3pm-7.30pm 9.30pm-2am Sat 9.30pm-2am
    Entrance: 0€/couple 25€/single afternoon 55€/single evening

  7. #871
    Quote Originally Posted by Priamos
    Hum... in my experience, given that all the veteran Chinese providers charge 30 euros (and 20 euros if you look like a Turkish expat...) you don't get anyone elso who seriously expects 60 euros for a simple FS. I've heard demands as high as that but the girls did not look as they expected, even for one second, that I'd accept such a price. Good looking girls normally charge 40 euros, plus 30 euros for a (seedy, run-down...) hotel.
    Hi Priamos,

    Thanks for your input.

    You are absolutely right to point out that 60 euros for a simple FS is just ridiculously high priced and that you have to bargain and lower the price or walk away.

    However I've seen some who wouldnt budge from 50 euros.

    The most ridiculous quotation I ever encoutered there was from a rather short Algerian with partially dyed long hair and an average face but a nice, curvacious body : 300 euros for "some time" in her studio. I almost laughed to her face. I heard her saying "200 euros" immediately after I started walking away.

    But you're right 30/40 is the standard price, even though the hot Tunisian I talked about in my previous post is firm on 50.

    As for hotels, 30 is the bottom price, but if they are full or the guy at the desk is in a mood to rip you off or if you chose to get a room with a shower (my advice), it can quicly go up to 40.

    I've heard that similar action (North-African women blending in the crowd) is to be found between metro stations Place de Clichy and La Fourche (17th district / arrondissement). However, that is second hand info. I will check it soon and report.

  8. #870

    Options for and from Paris

    Euro, my friend what are you doing on this thread? If you want a complete overview about the Parisian scene:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=469

    This is the complete list of Parisian sex clubs, which means here swingers club:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=642

    But you get the deal, forget about the Parisian scene and cross the borders especially if you are used to Rio and FKK standard. The closest brothel from Paris I recommend is in Belgium right after crossing the border, at only 200km and 2 hours drive:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...8&postcount=13

    Here is the complete list of brothels in Belgium:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...32&postcount=2

    Else, the two closest FKK are both at 400km and 4 hour drive from Paris:

    FKK-Club 214 Saarbrücken Luisenthaler Str. 214 66115 SAARBRÜCKEN Germany (Tel. 0681-776420) www.fkk-saarbruecken.com. Open from Monday till Saturday from 11H00 till 2H00 and Sunday from 18H00 till 2H00. Entrance is 50€ and pricing is 50€/30min. Club has swimmingpool, sauna, solarium. There up to 20 girls.

    Relax Club Sint Josephlaan 95 2400 MOL Wezel Antwerpen BELGIUM (Tel. 014 65 1431) www.ritzclubbing.be. Open from Monday till Saturday from 11H00 till 1H00 and Sunday from 13H00 till 23H00. Entrance is 50€ and pricing is 50€/30min.

    Check my latest report about this club:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...1&postcount=45

    The NRW FKK are at 500/600km and 5/6hour drive and the Frankfurt FKK at 650/700km 7 hour drive. Train is another good option but with similar time as by car. This will change in 2007 with the TGV East bringing Saarbrucken at 2 hours from Paris and Frankfurt 3.5 hours!

  9. #869

    C'est nous les africains...

    Thanks for your encouraging words, Algeria f E.

    Quote Originally Posted by Algeria for Ever
    Price : Starts from 30 euros up to 60 for a simple FS + hotel. Hotels in walking distance charge somewhere between 30 and 50 euros for a room. So, let's say total starting price is 80, which I know sounds really pricey.
    Hum... in my experience, given that all the veteran Chinese providers charge 30 euros (and 20 euros if you look like a Turkish expat...) you don't get anyone elso who seriously expects 60 euros for a simple FS. I've heard demands as high as that but the girls did not look as they expected, even for one second, that I'd accept such a price. Good looking girls normally charge 40 euros, plus 30 euros for a (seedy, run-down...) hotel.

  10. #868
    Quote Originally Posted by Priamos

    The traditional haunts around Metro Strassbourg-St.Denis, Boulevard de Strasbourg and Place de la Republique seem to have changed somewhat (...)
    The most promising market segment these days is the Moroccan/Algerian women who hang out, and walk the streets, in the same area. They are mostly old, mostly overweight, but it is among them that a few newcomers and part-timers show up every now and then.
    Quick report on the North-African streetwalkers Priamos talked about

    First, a warning : this scene is radically down market, and girls so do not look like high-end Eastern Europen escorts. So if you're into 5 star hotels and blond haired models, dont even bother reading this.

    The place : In Paris 10th district (arrondissement), between Metro stations Strasbourg Saint Denis and Chateau d'Eau, mainly on 3 streets : Boulevard de Strasbourg, Boulevard Bonne Nouvelle and Rue du Faubourg Saint Denis (distinct from Rue Saint Denis proper).

    The time : Starting from lunchtime until midnight. Peak in late afternoon/early evening.

    The girls : Well, given their age, "women" seems more fitting than "girls". Anyway, they are usually dressed very modestly, so as not to attract police attention. They walk the 3 aforementioned streets alone, by pairs or in groups of 3 or 4. They talk Arabic between themselves and look like ordinary shoppers (the place is packed with shops and very busy during the day). They sometimes sit and have a drink in the neighbouring cafes Priamos mentioned in his post. They look, well, North-African (tanned skin, usually on the chubby side). They range from young women in their 20's to elder specimens in their 50's. Most of them 4s or 5s, but try to spot the occasional 7.

    How to spot them : Well, given that they try to avoid unwanted attention, you just have to look for ordinary dressed women from the Maghreb who walk somewhat slower than the rest of the crowd. Then eye contact + smile. If she keeps looking at you and smiles back you're in.

    Price : Starts from 30 euros up to 60 for a simple FS + hotel. Hotels in walking distance charge somewhere between 30 and 50 euros for a room. So, let's say total starting price is 80, which I know sounds really pricey. The good thing is, if you start adding some money to the agreed price (not necessarily an enormous amount), service will get much, much better than your average FS.

    Service quality : Extremely variable. I've had awesome GFE as well as lousy shags. Hygiene varies from passable to excellent. Make sure you ask for a room with a shower. Best looking girls i've had were a 29 yo Morrocan, but she since went back to Spain (or so she told me) and a 27 yo Tunisian who's still there (starts walking the street in the late afternoon). Ended up giving her 200 euros for a 3-shot, no rush session. She was absolutely fantastic. Also had a 30-something Algerian who gave excellent bareback BJs, but she was a little overweight.

    On the other hand, I had another 30-something Algerian (always by herself with quite short hair) with an average face but a great body who was a total let-down. Might as well have shagged a corpse.

    So on the whole it's hit and miss, both in terms of looks and service quality. But I like the fun to be found in walking the streets and trying to figure out if this or that woman is actually a hooker or not.

    Trivia : I once spotted there a rather good looking woman in her 30ies wearing a Muslim veil. Women wearing such clothing are generally very religious and very prudish, so last thing you'd expect is to see one walking the streets for money. This one clearly did, as she smiled back at me and I later saw her chatting and leaving with some dude. Funny.

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  11. #867

    Upcoming trip to Paris

    I am usually not posting in this part of the forum, but now I have a business trip to Paris scheduled again next month, and I looked through the posts to see what works in Paris, as far as P4P goes. What I read confirmed what I thought I already knew from previous trips: Paris sucks when it comes to P4P.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bimbo Boy
    I agree that nothings beats the Quality/Price ratio of the FKK's in Germany.
    I am very familiar with the German FKK scene, and I agree that you get outstanding service at a very reasonable price. Does anybody know of any place in Paris that is somwhat comparable in quality to the big Frankfurt-area FKKs (Oase, Palace, FKKW)? If yes, please post. [And please accept my apologies beforehand for possibly overlooking posts that report on this already.]

    Alternatively I will try my luck again in the amateur scene. But with amateurs the biggest problem is that they want to stick around after the deed .

    By the way, if you are familiar with the German FKKs, and if you are convinced that it does not get any better than that, please consider looking at Brazil, in particular Rio. I just came back from there, and I am still in a daze. It was a wild wild ride, with GFE that was MUCH better than what one gets at a German FKK.

    euro

  12. #866
    Quote Originally Posted by Bimbo Boy
    Actually, one doesn't need to do that: its' been done already by Tour agencies. They bring girls from the Czech Republic or Romania, and charge French prices (about 150 to 250€ per hour).
    Sure, if you're happy to pay that much for a quickie. I paid 200Euro for her Eurostar ticket, plus about another 200 for dinners, swingers club entry and some lingerie. 400Euro for two days and nights of fun and adventures with an exotic sex maniac seems better value than 250 an hour for a P4P girl, IMHO.

  13. #865
    Exact, several agencies are operating tours in Western Europe with girls from Eastern Europe (Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania...) and Paris is one of the main spot.

    These girls are usually much nicer and are usually giving good services.

    Prices charged are on the WE level from 150 to 250 EUR / hour in Paris, from 150 to 300 GBP / hour in London...

    EE girls can make much faster money by working short time in France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Grece, Switzerland... than in their home country.

  14. #864
    Quote Originally Posted by Piper1
    If I were living in Paris, I would use the dating sites to invite girls over from neigbouring countries for long weekends (As I did with a British/Indian/Malaysian girl a few months ago - see my earlier posts). For the price of a ticket and nights out, great fun. Paris might be a drag if you live there, but for girls it's still a magnet.
    Actually, one doesn't need to do that: its' been done already by Tour agencies. They bring girls from the Czech Republic or Romania, and charge French prices (about 150 to 250€ per hour). Everyone is happy because these girls are usually nicer than the French escorts.

    None of my friends in Paris are banging the cheapo girls in rue Saint Denis, Bois de Boulogne or Grands Boulevards. They all bang the beautiful eastern Europe escorts ... just like it's in London.

    I agree that nothings beats the Quality/Price ratio of the FKK's in Germany.

  15. #863
    If I were living in Paris, I would use the dating sites to invite girls over from neigbouring countries for long weekends (As I did with a British/Indian/Malaysian girl a few months ago - see my earlier posts). For the price of a ticket and nights out, great fun. Paris might be a drag if you live there, but for girls it's still a magnet.

    I still get replies to my offer for a trip to Paris on the dating sites. I was lucky with the girl who came over and stayed with me, as she had one thing in mind - lot's of sex. Problem was, she wanted lots of sex with lots of guys. I took her to a swingers club one night and almost got left behind!

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