Paris

[Denis]

Denis,

Ah, you don't have to convince me: I too used to prefer the service of the Chinese vendors. They are generally sweeter and more likely to stick to a deal than the Medditerrenean women (Balkans + Maghreb). My problem is, I like a premium service, so I've built a reputation among the pros as a "good payer". Which being so, such prices I may have paid in the past to secure a true GFE have now become the floor. I used to get around that by picking newcomers or semi-pros, but as that supply has dried up (thanks Sarko!) I'm now a bit boxed in.

Priamos

Priamos
If you are interested I can provide you some contacts of Chineses working from apartments, quality is better than street quality but price is a bit higher (100€/h) but still better than escort prices.
Denis

[Priamos]

Denis,

Ah, you don't have to convince me: I too used to prefer the service of the Chinese vendors. They are generally sweeter and more likely to stick to a deal than the Medditerrenean women (Balkans + Maghreb). My problem is, I like a premium service, so I've built a reputation among the pros as a "good payer". Which being so, such prices I may have paid in the past to secure a true GFE have now become the floor. I used to get around that by picking newcomers or semi-pros, but as that supply has dried up (thanks Sarko!) I'm now a bit boxed in.

Priamos

[Denis]

Priamos
I will agree with you but I can not help it, I like the fun of cruise around by car, yes you have more chances to have a miss than a hit.

The nice thing with the Chinese girls is that they provide pretty good unrushed service and are normally "no problems"

Ok I agree that in France they are not first hand and have a lot of miles but they are friendly and if you speak a little chinese (I do) they are even nicer.

They ask for 20€ for a CBJ and 30€ for FS and if you give 50€ they will treat you like a king.

[Luis1]

Chinesefuckinbirds!!! hired a chinese girl recently and she's as fast as a sick snail... has no clue but goes on underpaid so as I'm a sentimental boy I keep her. Another chinese bird I chatted on internet... met her outside Opera than dropped her in Place Vendome coz her english was as poor as her french... plus she had bad teeth...than a french noble from a usedtobe hiso family who wouldn't get laid before she feels ready... whatever it means... just miss my young thai bird who enjoys watching me fucking young strangers real hard down their throath untill they choke and kinda cry and it's new year this WE in Thailand and boring there so where the hell to go??

Luis, getting drunk aready and tomorrow dinner in Costes than lotsa booze in the VIP corner in l'Etoile with a customer and big boobs assistant and it will cost a bomb and will be hardly entertaining again... god bless third world...

[Luis1]

Any feedback about the www.club111.com website?? they have girls touring Paris with decent prices by local standards and photos are OK. A friend tried them and is very satisfied but I'm quite a bit pickier than him. Anybody tried them?? can U have your way or was it mostly boring?? are they offering what's advertised?? There's a long week end coming up and no idea where to spend it. Might as well stay in Paris so all advice welcome

Catalyst: good report, thanks mate! and help!! U guys can head down south BTW, gang bang parties in Agde and cap d'Agde should start getting busy... nothing to dream about though...

[Priamos]

As for the Parisian down-market scene, I would say that the rumours of its death are greatly exaggerated. - Although one might sometimes wish they weren't!

Unlike Denis I don't much like cruising around by car. Even when the Boulevard des Marechaux was packed with working girls a few years back I found it a bit too hectic, and the success rate ("success" = good looking girl + unrushed service + no mishaps with my car/policy/voyeurs/etc.) definitely below 50%. I must however add that in those days I focussed on girls from the Balkans, and they as a general rule are much more likely to pull tricks than Denis's preferred Chinese staple.

The traditional haunts around Metro Strassbourg-St.Denis, Boulevard de Strasbourg and Place de la Republique seem to have changed somewhat, with the police's clampdown on hotels renting by the hour to Chinese-looking women beginning to show its effects: the Chinese crowd has dwindled to a few dozens of real pros. The semi-pros and after-work-girls of the past are rarely seen these days.

Conversely, the Balkan girls and Arab women are making a reappearance, especially immediately around, and to the north of, the Metro station. In almost any one of the seedy cafes (which means any cafe around there!) from early afternoon you'll find a few working girls, who will claim they are from Bulgaria. - Apparently "Bulgaria" is shorthand for any of the countries Bulgaria, Romania, Albania and ex-Yugoslavia. Most of the girls look gypsy, and all of them look ugly IMHO. As far as I can make out their main clients are the Turkish guest workers who hang out in the neighbourhood, so it's not exactly upmarket business! That said, if you approach one of them, looking comparatively well off, they'll be quick to demand 100+ euros, or at least twice the going rate.

The most promising market segment these days is the Moroccan/Algerian women who hang out, and walk the streets, in the same area. They are mostly old, mostly overweight, but it is among them that a few newcomers and part-timers show up every now and then. Only last week I came across a plump, fresh-faced young Algerian girl around 20 yo who agreed to a standard price of 30 euros plus hotel. Wanting to make sure, I asked her whether this included a full service with f and s (French: la pipe et l'amour). She smiled slyly and answered "Bien sur. If you want more than that, let's discuss." She was friendly, open minded and sticking to her side of the agreement and I'll try to hook up with her again. As far as I can make out she lives in one of the run-down suburbs and is normally pimped for by her local youth gang. Her appearances in St.Denis/Strasbourg neighbourhood are her little bit of privateering.

That said, this market is totally unpredictable: you can spend a couple of afternoons/early evenings in the neighbourhood and see only the same tired old faces. Also, when your catch is a non-regular finding a hotel room can be a bit of a hassle these days.

[Jeanmi]

Denis,

You're a lucky man : I suppose you had a lot of good experiences while in China ...

Is there a noticeable difference before Chinese girls in China and the one we can found in France (except age) ?

Why the most we have here are old and ugly, when there are so adorable dolls there ?

I hope they will export more and more girls to our old Europe for our best pleasure !!!

Do you know other places in Paris to find SW Chinese girls?

JeanMi

[Denis]

I will agree, I went this morning in the area and I saw a lot of Chinese girls but all were pretty old.
Finally after a little bit of cruising , I found a not so bad ,mid 30, and proceeded for a quick CBJ to a parking near by. damage: 20€
I just came back from China and the quality over there is no comparaison to the ones we find in France!
Denis

[Jeanmi]

No Denis, this scene is not dead!

Last week I had a couple of hours to spent so I decided to verify your assertion by myself.

I went to the Porte Doree area at 4pm.

It was not the crowd of the great days: only 4 of 5 Chinese girls but not so bad.

I picked up one in Avenue Emile Laurent: small, thin, about 35 yo. She asked for 30 euros.

We went to my favourite hotel in Ivry (21 Euros without shower or 27 whith shower).

After undressing she washed my cock in the shower and we went on the bed.

It was a bit cold (the heating is not the best in this hotel.) and her breast was hard. I began to lick her nipples and she seemed to like it!

She sucked my cock (with condom of course) and played with my balls before staying on her back with her legs wide opened: a good invitation!

We fucked in several positions but she said she prefered doggy style, so I accessed to their whishes and I fucked her hard from behind.

When my balls were empty, after half an hour of missionary, her on top, doggy and so on, we stayed a moment embraced before returning to Paris.

A good experience, even if the choice is more limited than one year ago (I hate Sarko! ).

What was a little bit ennoying was her mobile phone: she didn't stop the ring and it sounded at least 5 times during the fuck party. It is really bothering! But I think it is the progress.

See you later.

JeanMi

[Catalyst]

Fkkguide,

What a great idea. I'd get a huge kick out of it. The only trouble is to get paid I'd have to give them my real name and I wouldn't be very keen on that. Plus I'm not sure I want the ordinary masses being informed about my favorite spots in Europe. The ladies might agree.

[FKKguide]

.....a natural balance where most of the time the women are frightful bu...

Catalyst,

Thanks for the very enlightening reports. Now I know for sure why I prefer German FKK clubs you also wrote about.

BTW: try to get these articles published in Hustler magazine. They pay very well and on time. And appreciate your sense of humor. Esp the Paris ones are hilarious!

[Mufu]

It seems that the Chineses are gone, a lot of police on bicycle in the area, maybe the reason.
Thanks Sarko!
Denis

It seems that the Sarkoboys are quite active at present. I drove around on last friday; it seemed to me that these cyclist stops cars as soon as they see them twice. There were about 5 girls in the area.

I was in fact coming back from a GB in Montreuil that was a complete miss.
I finally decided to switch to the Bois de Boulogne for the 7pm chicas.

First I met two cyclists while walking to the place. This let me a bit cautious and I stayed in the area for 40 minutes to check the ambiance; lot of retirees who appreciate the kindness of the chicas (not kidding!) and I do not see how security in France will improve from blocking this activity. After a while I decided to take the risk and gave my 20 bucks to Cathy, a nice Equatorian who did a wonderful blowjob.

Now at la hora de verdad came a large shout from her colleagues and i had to run out with trouser up but underwear still down. One of her colleague saw 4 Sarkoboys. As a caballero, I came back (after having fixed my underwear) and made a reconnoissance to inform the ladies about the movements of the enemy.

Although I did not claim for anything, Cathy proposed to finish the service while walking back to my car. Same wonderful BJ and five minutes FJ but to do it in the open (no leaf at this time on Boulogne's trees) after so many emotions did not allow me to render the honours I ought to the Lady. Well driving her back to her home was a minimum I could do and this allowed a nice conversation. I was relly surprized to learn that she had three ninos; I would give her no more than 25 and she has no signs of repeated maternities.

Just for the pleasure of the conversation and the spanish lesson, 20 Euro would be a steal. Given her kindness and the few money she earns, I really have not the feeling there is a strong maffia behind the busyness; just a few emigrants who need to survive.

[Denis]

Yesterday I was cruising around the 12th district and the Bois de Vincennes around 1.00pm.
It seems that the Chineses are gone, a lot of police on bicycle in the area, maybe the reason.
I saw only one van with 2 ugly old ladies Avenue Carnot in St Mandé ,
In the Bois de Vincennes nothing at all , except one black SW close to Joinville le Pont
Thanks Sarko!
Denis

[Iseeu]

Well, it's not totally dead - if you're gay. A friend of mine ( who is) tells me that in his circles it is considered one of the best cities in the world for one-time adventures.

As a very frequent business traveller- more than 20 visits last year, I can confirm, that unless you're willing to change affiliations or fork over at least 250 Euro for a decent escort, the Paris mongering scene is dead. The only outlet are the swinger clubs and Catalyst's excellent review of his experiences, aptly describes the scene - Swinger clubs are always hit or miss, unless you make some effort beforehand to meet some of the regulars via the internet (the Paris scene has a multitude of chats and introduction sites) or become a regular at one of the clubs. There's no sense trying to avoid that- it's a fact.

A few comments on Catalyst's report:
1) The scene is very diferent on weekends - I assume that you were there on a weekday. Many more younger particpants, but most of the clubs also limit the amount of single men or forbid them altogether. I once took an escort to one of the clubs on a Sat. nite and had a very different experience.

2) You tried 3 clubs that are in the main city quarters. I find that the clubs further out of the city center like Quai 17 are less runover with desperate single men.

3) I've found my best nights at clubs like La Cheminee which are usually closed to single men, but open twice a week for "trio" nights. But make sure that you call in advance or they won't let you in.

4) Always bring your own condoms- this isn't Germany. If you forget, at most of the clubs they have a supply of condoms at the bar/reception.

5) I applaud Catalyst's commitment to the hobby- a walk on a winter's night from L'Escapde to Prelude no small effort.

And finally, it is impossible to get to the city by taxi, train or bus, have sex and then return to CDG all within one hour. At most times of the day you're lucky if you can go in one direction at in that time, even if there's no public transport stoppage, and that's without sex...Then again, by helicopter....

[Bbois77]

Hi Guys,

Sorry to be the confirmer of all that has been said by previous members. Paris is officially dead as a dodo, as a place to head some mongering!

As noted Rue St Denis, is a joke at every guys expense, out of 25 girls on roster last Monday, two were under 30 or just, most were caricatures of fat, old hugely breasted *****s of times gone by. I jest not! Majority were in their forties, uninviting unless you'd just overdosed on Viagra or had lost your white stick!

Pigalle, full of clip joins etc, girls to avoid, unless you are abolutely in the know.

Minimum now is 150 euro for an escort, then can be hit and miss, mostly East European girls on tour.

So, had taken the tip about Chinese providers, hung about between Republique and Boulevard Strasbourg metro stops, noting the slow walking and deliberate eye contact from the Chinese providers.

After a while settled on a girl called Apin ( or similar), back to hotel 30 Euro all in, not that great a body when stripped for a forty year old, all smiles just went for snogging and a hand job, and that was that, not to be tried again, honestly!

Roll on Poland in June and of course Manchester from time to time!

RIP......Paris!

Anyone else attending or contributing to the funeral?