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  1. #708

    Reposting from FKK thread, seeking advice

    Ambiente trade show In February.

    I am planning to visit Germany from the 11th to the 16th of February. Those dates coincide with Ambiente. My plan is th visit Sharks on 11th and 12th and I booked my stay at the hotel down the street from the club and my plan was to do rooms during the day and party and drink at night and if an opportunity present its self and room waits are not redeculus continue playing into the night. I have also decided to get out of town and spend couple of days away from Frankfurt and the trade show traffic. I have picked Berlin to visit Artemis and then on my final night stay at a Frankfurt airport hotel and visit Oase on the final night of the trade show. This is my third FKK tour so I have some familiarity but if you could help me with the following questions.

    1) how does Ambiente Impact FKK action from what I heard it doesn't drow as many mongers.

    2) should I avoid Frankfurt on those days.

    3) should I go NRW instead of Berlin.

  2. #707

    Nice collection of websites

    Folks,

    I found a nice list of websites to find escorts in Germany, use google translate.

    http://www.hurendo.com/rotlichtguide...rdell-fuehrer/

    I've only used Kaufmich and found good.

    Have fun!

  3. #706
    Quote Originally Posted by SwingerLover  [View Original Post]
    Saskia Farell: Okay. Maybe on Tuesday AND on Thursday?
    Tuesday party is a monthly event only for the first Tuesday of the month, HOT7 Party. They have 6 hrs party every Thursday with 4/5 girls.

  4. #705

    More options

    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderStar  [View Original Post]
    What you say about "taking potential clients" is the reason why we thought FKKs would not be for us.
    I agree with that assessment!

    The only exception might be Dolce Vita in Raubach, since they specifically state "und Paare" (= and couples): http://www.dolce-vita-raubach.de/index.php But I believe that you will have to pay per session just like the single guys, if you want to fuck one of the girls.

    punters from the girls" in Partytreffs. That is exactly the reason why we think we would get on better in this type of environment rather than a FKK. My wife would be helping the girls.
    Which is by no means a guarantee that you will get to fuck the girls! That depends on the club.

    On our list is:

    Saskia Ferell.

    Love Toxxic.

    Treff 18.

    Treff 188.

    Bose Partys.
    Saskia Farell: Okay. Maybe on Tuesday AND on Thursday?

    Love Toxic: Don't know anything about them.

    Treff 18: What's that? Is that Swingertreff 18 in Cologne, which is part of "Böse Partys"? I have never heard anything good about them at all. Ever.

    Treff188: My info is out of date. I stopped going there years ago because everybody went behins closed doors only. If that's till the case, then that's propably not your idea of fun.

    So here are some more options to consider:

    First (and if you are really into gangbang) you should hit Dream Heaven in Wülfrath on WED 6th for Zhuzha's party: http://zhuzha.de/ http://www.dream-heaven.de/index.

    You don't seem to be into bareback action, but you might still want to consider Spermagames on SAT 9th in Karlsruhe, if that's not too far away for you. www.spermagames.com.

    If you are still here on SUN, then you might try this place for another AO / Safe men-surplus group sex party: http://fashion-privatkreis.de/.

    More parties and events can be found here: http://hotpartys.com/index2.htm.

  5. #704
    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderStar  [View Original Post]
    We both speak little (if any German).

    Also want to do a day / night in a RLD where we can drink, and drink up the atmosphere, but I guess we won't be playing with window girls, but sex cinemas are / can be a lot of fun.
    I've been visiting Germany 15 years & speak very little German. The airport, car rental & hotel staff speak English.

    The RLD in Duisburg has a couple bars within the sex buildings but no cinemas. The RLD in Frankfurt have plenty of cinemas to play in. Don't bother with the strip clubs, major rip off.

    FKK, they will let you both in as long as you pay the entry. Wife will have to wear a robe & only go in the room with you & another girl for 3 some. I've seen couples in clubs before so it's not a big deal.

    Have fun!

  6. #703
    Quote Originally Posted by SvenFKK  [View Original Post]
    Even if she receives no money, they might require some identification. (UK is still EU so you are safe there.) Otherwise, people could claim to be guests and collect money from punters (often, money is given directly from punter to girl) without the right to work.

    At the typical FKK club, there are rarely if ever couples present. As others have noted, the other girls might object since your wife would be taking their potential clients. I'm not sure why you don't like swingers' clubs unless you are into many more men than girls present in the club.

    At a typical Partytreff club, there are occasionally couples. At least in some cases the girls get paid a flat rate, so it doesn't matter if your wife steals some punters from them. I've had experiences with the female halves of couples at Partytreffs. Unless the punters are regulars, they might not realize that your wife is not part of the staff unless she alway stays near you. In that case, it might be better to make it clear since otherwise other punters might think that you are spending too much time with her (or vice versa).

    Looking at the Private Club in Birmingham, it seems to be similar to Xanadu in Manchester, at least the Xanadu of 15--20 years ago (haven't been back since then), though I'm not sure if there were any hired women there (probably a few, but many couples came as well, and about twice as many single men as couples). I think a Partytreff would be your best bet, but check first to see if couples are welcome.

    If you come back sometime during the two weeks after Easter, I'd be happy to accompany you. I speak both German and English completely fluently and am pretty familiar with the Partytreff scene.
    Thanks. The wife will not be taking any money from guys to party. I think the fact that she is English, she will stand out as not a paid for girl. She is happy with lots of attention on her.

    What you say about "taking potential clients" is the reason why we thought FKKs would not be for us.

    Where you mention about me spending too much time with her. LOL - that won't happen! We have been together for 10 years! I can fuck her 24/7, however the girls at the party are "strange" - they will be getting my attention LOL! I think the customers will realise we are a couple. I'm not concerned about that. But thanks for raising the point.

    What you say about "taking punters from the girls" in Partytreffs. That is exactly the reason why we think we would get on better in this type of environment rather than a FKK. My wife would be helping the girls.

    Coming back after Easter? We will see how we get on this time. We are German virgins. So we may well come back soon!

    Below is the list of venues I think we should be partying in. Any thoughts or views on them?

    We both speak little (if any German).

    We fly into Cologne.

    We have a hire car and sat nav.

    Hotels. Not booked yet anywhere.

    On our list is:

    Saskia Ferell.

    Love Toxxic.

    Treff 18.

    Treff 188.

    Bose Partys.

    Also want to do a day / night in a RLD where we can drink, and drink up the atmosphere, but I guess we won't be playing with window girls, but sex cinemas are / can be a lot of fun.

  7. #702

    Where to go in Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderStar  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for the reply. Just to confirm. My wife will not be "working" there at all, but we like to get involved in gangbangs, multiple guys and girls. I have no problems with her fucking other guys (as long as I'm in the same room). There is no money that guys pay to fuck my wife.
    Even if she receives no money, they might require some identification. (UK is still EU so you are safe there.) Otherwise, people could claim to be guests and collect money from punters (often, money is given directly from punter to girl) without the right to work.

    At the typical FKK club, there are rarely if ever couples present. As others have noted, the other girls might object since your wife would be taking their potential clients. I'm not sure why you don't like swingers' clubs unless you are into many more men than girls present in the club.

    At a typical Partytreff club, there are occasionally couples. At least in some cases the girls get paid a flat rate, so it doesn't matter if your wife steals some punters from them. I've had experiences with the female halves of couples at Partytreffs. Unless the punters are regulars, they might not realize that your wife is not part of the staff unless she alway stays near you. In that case, it might be better to make it clear since otherwise other punters might think that you are spending too much time with her (or vice versa).

    Looking at the Private Club in Birmingham, it seems to be similar to Xanadu in Manchester, at least the Xanadu of 15--20 years ago (haven't been back since then), though I'm not sure if there were any hired women there (probably a few, but many couples came as well, and about twice as many single men as couples). I think a Partytreff would be your best bet, but check first to see if couples are welcome.

    If you come back sometime during the two weeks after Easter, I'd be happy to accompany you. I speak both German and English completely fluently and am pretty familiar with the Partytreff scene.

  8. #701
    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderStar  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for the reply. Just to confirm. My wife will not be "working" there at all, but we like to get involved in gangbangs, multiple guys and girls. I have no problems with her fucking other guys (as long as I'm in the same room). There is no money that guys pay to fuck my wife. Although now that I think about it.
    Farell Lounge in Kaarst is a very nice club with a good atmosphere, for my experience is more gangbang party then swinger club. But if you want to get party with multiple guys and staff girls I think is a good place, also I never found the club too crowded.
    Living Room is just 30meters from Farell Lounge, so you can easy try to give a look but i dont know if they will let your wife coming in or not.

  9. #700
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    Actually, your wife will not be allowed to work in the FKK (or go with any other guys besides you in an FKK if she does not have a EU passport). The FKK clubs only allow the girl to come in as the guy's guest. Typically, Reception will require her passport showing that she has a right to work in the EU before allowing her to "work" (go with other guys) in the club. This is certainly the case at World, where Reception told my girl that she would have to leave her EU passport with Reception if she wanted to go with other guys besides myself. Of course, I wasn't about to share my girl with anyone so I made sure she didn't deposit her passport upon entry, so she was "stuck" with me for the whole night, but I was free to sample other delicacies there when I wasn't busy playing with my girl.
    .
    Thank you for the reply. Just to confirm. My wife will not be "working" there at all, but we like to get involved in gangbangs, multiple guys and girls. I have no problems with her fucking other guys (as long as I'm in the same room). There is no money that guys pay to fuck my wife. Although now that I think about it.

    With regards to trying the FKKs. We may well look into one of the ones you have mentioned.

    We prefer day time parties and a nightclub atmosphere is not what we are after.

    In the UK (we are both British) we like http://www.theprivateclub.com/.

    This place has paid for entertainers and loads of guys. We like the atmosphere and plenty of sex. So the Partytreff appears to be what we are after.

    Thanks for your thoughts.

  10. #699
    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderStar  [View Original Post]
    So this Tuesday, the wife and I are taking our first tour (ish) of sex clubs. I have done loads of research on this site and others and the list below is where I THINK we should go to party.

    We both speak little (if any German).

    We fly into Cologne.

    We have a hire car and sat nav.

    Hotels. Not booked yet anywhere.

    On our list is:

    Saskia Ferell.

    Love Toxxic.

    Treff 18.

    Treff 188.

    Bose Partys.

    Also want to do a day / night in a RLD where we can drink, and drink up the atmosphere, but I guess we won't be playing with window girls, but sex cinemas are / can be a lot of fun.

    We are there for 6 nights and happy to drive around.

    Any other "nice" clubs that you may suggest for a couple?

    The wife plays with both guys and girls and we prefer the paid entertainment venues rather than swingers clubs.

    I've been told to stay away from FKK clubs. As obviously if the wife starts fucking the guys there, then the girls would not be happy. And we like happy girls.

    So any thoughts or advice? Its our first time to Germany, but we are experienced in the pay for play scene in may different countries.

    Thanks for any thoughts / help in advance.
    Actually, your wife will not be allowed to work in the FKK (or go with any other guys besides you in an FKK if she does not have a EU passport). The FKK clubs only allow the girl to come in as the guy's guest. Typically, Reception will require her passport showing that she has a right to work in the EU before allowing her to "work" (go with other guys) in the club. This is certainly the case at World, where Reception told my girl that she would have to leave her EU passport with Reception if she wanted to go with other guys besides myself. Of course, I wasn't about to share my girl with anyone so I made sure she didn't deposit her passport upon entry, so she was "stuck" with me for the whole night, but I was free to sample other delicacies there when I wasn't busy playing with my girl.

    I don't know why someone told you to stay away from FKK clubs. They're certainly much nicer than the other places you listed. Indeed, if I had a willing chick with me, I'd take her first to an FKK club before taking her to any of those places. At the big FKK clubs, you have all-you-can-eat food, sauna, rooms, Kino, etc.

    Go to Living Room, Samya (sauna clubs). Maybe also peek in Planet Happy Garden and Magnum. Maybe go to Samya more in the day and not so late at night if party atmosphere with loud music isn't your thing.

    If you have time to drive down to Hessen, visit both FKK-Oase and FKK-Sharks. FKK-Mainhattan if you want to visit a smaller club. Hessen is only about 2. 5 hours from Cologne.

  11. #698

    This Tuesday. Any thoughts / advice

    So this Tuesday, the wife and I are taking our first tour (ish) of sex clubs. I have done loads of research on this site and others and the list below is where I THINK we should go to party.

    We both speak little (if any German).

    We fly into Cologne.

    We have a hire car and sat nav.

    Hotels. Not booked yet anywhere.

    On our list is:

    Saskia Ferell.

    Love Toxxic.

    Treff 18.

    Treff 188.

    Bose Partys.

    Also want to do a day / night in a RLD where we can drink, and drink up the atmosphere, but I guess we won't be playing with window girls, but sex cinemas are / can be a lot of fun.

    We are there for 6 nights and happy to drive around.

    Any other "nice" clubs that you may suggest for a couple?

    The wife plays with both guys and girls and we prefer the paid entertainment venues rather than swingers clubs.

    I've been told to stay away from FKK clubs. As obviously if the wife starts fucking the guys there, then the girls would not be happy. And we like happy girls.

    So any thoughts or advice? Its our first time to Germany, but we are experienced in the pay for play scene in may different countries.

    Thanks for any thoughts / help in advance.

  12. #697

    Overview

    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann666  [View Original Post]
    an overview of the the new prostitution legislation in Germany as of Jan 1st 2016?
    Here's a complete and absolute over view, as you requested:

    None!

    (For a closer definition of "None!" read what 'Downandup' already wrote and RTFF!)

  13. #696
    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann666  [View Original Post]
    Can someone with the proper knowledge give me an overview of the the new prostitution legislation in Germany as of Jan 1st 2016? From what I understand, gangbang and flat rate will become illegal. There will also be a requirement to use rubbers and prostitutes will need to register.

    My question is if you have actually seen this being implemented and if so, how? I still see adds for gangbang parties and flatrate for example. The rubber requirement, does that also include BJ's?

    Thanks!
    Basically there is no such law yet and there possibly won't be one. The greens are against it due to the cost and administration and they have enough leverage to kill this law as they are part of many coalitions of state governments which is represented in the Federal government. If such a law does get passed it will then be another six months before it takes effect.

    You can find more details if you look around here some more.

  14. #695

    New legislation on prostitution in Germany

    Can someone with the proper knowledge give me an overview of the the new prostitution legislation in Germany as of Jan 1st 2016? From what I understand, gangbang and flat rate will become illegal. There will also be a requirement to use rubbers and prostitutes will need to register.

    My question is if you have actually seen this being implemented and if so, how? I still see adds for gangbang parties and flatrate for example. The rubber requirement, does that also include BJ's?

    Thanks!

  15. #694

    Re: a little help from those in the know

    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderStar  [View Original Post]
    The wife and I like to party and have a week off from the 5th Jan.

    from what I have read Partytreff clubs seem to fit our bill.
    Yes, I agree, that's the best option. Will cost you little, if at all-much less than your travel costs. No need to plan anything in advance; just turn up. I think all Partytreffs will accept couples. Your wife can have all the men she wants. You will also have a nice choice of women. Threesome? Foursome? It depends.

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