Berlin

[Bobo.fr]

Vicky : no Frenchkisses, professionnal

Laura : no Frenchkisses, professionnal , beautiful face and butt, clit "closed" by a piercing as her "Forbidden City"

Nicoletta : new lady (not mentionned on the website www.kamilla-dee.com yet) , no Frenchkiss

Heidi : private meeting called "escort" (200 for the first hour, normal price (80 /30 minutes) - see previous posts ); Frenchkisses , agreed to "make love".

Nathalie : no Frenchkisses, good massage

Amelie : no Frenchkisses anymore (see previous post) but still provides lovely body kisses and lickings !!! Still cute (see previous post). I mentionned in my previous post that she was not on the website but the reality is that the English and German versions are different : Amelie can be seen on the German version - personnally, I find that she is younger and cuter than we can imagine from her pictures on the website.

[Percent99]

I have to say about Chateau http://212.202.240.146/rotlichtadres...bar/index.html since some people pm asking about this that I definitely would recommend for the relaxed atmosphere and especially if you go there with a friend or 2 (not more). Prices are 80for 30min in room and 10 for your Drink 20 for the lady. Total of 110 actually for about an hour with the girl. 30min in the room and 30? In the bar.

1st of all Dana is one Girl German I recognize from the link Angus Magee posted and seems to work better than the one I had .(thanks ).She is the one that spoke very good English .She also has her own (non )business !! As you see in pic 3 they have a light and when I came in a girl’s underwear and a prophylactic (blown like a balloon) was hanging from the light. Turns out it was hers and later Maria (18yo very nice slim girl) asked her why she did that and Dana answered “why not?” This should give you an idea of the fun you can have there if the mood is ok.
In the pic attached of the bar you can see the size of the bar 25 sq meters? and the bar on the mirror at the back.

2nd I recognize Chrissy who was sitting with another guy but next to me in the bar with our backs to each other but a lot of times we had laughs together , touched and made humor with each other(she looks like the pics no better no worse I rated her as 7.5/10 in my post).
I am not sure the pic at the site is of Maria or Carmen but Maria is slim and dark haired girl like this one rated her as 8+/10 and the other girl I saw a Portugese girl (born in Germany also)that was a 9/10 I think . Maria and this girl spoke no English.
I regret not having one of these 2 girls (sweet as candy they were) but I was of to see more places that night and Dana had me all cornered and couldnt break her tackle.

Also I forgot to mention that I went to Psssst bar after this and it really stunk as the girls were much fewer than the guys 10guys 4 girls and not one was over 6/10.
So I regretted it twice after that miss but there was always Artemis so all was ok.

[Angus Magee]

Thanks for the great research percent99. It seems like you really covered some distance. I have often wondered about the Chateau place as the web site has some nice girls.

This link should take you to pictures of some of the Chateau girls:

http://212.202.240.146/rotlichtadres...bar/index.html

click on 'Hier Gehts Rein' and then Party Girls. Maria/Carmen looks fine IMO.

As for bars, I think I will stick to La Folie as I have never been disappointed there in the past. But it is good to have your experience here on the board.

[Percent99]

And also 2 I forgot but limited info I am afraid.
8.Club Liaison Rabbestr. 1 Berlin-Prenzlauer Berg http://www.club-liaison.de Nachtclub Mo - Sa 21 - 5 http://www.club-liaison.de/seite2.htm looked ok (the girls seemed above 7/10 ) but I left anyway without asking the price.(sorry)

9.Bar madame (bei Bella) Metzerstraße 2 Berlin-Prenzlauer Berg http://www.club-madam.de 1h -100euros 25euro piccolo checked it out and left

[Percent99]

I also had a chance to check out some other establishments:

1.Club-Sun Nachtclub - Schönhauser Allee 26 - 10435 Berlin (Prenzlauer Berg) http://www.club-sun.de/index.htm near lamano The club Sun. was a dump dirty with 2 girls bad fat and old and shity rooms

2.Chateau http://www.bordellberlin.de.be/ This was a very very very small bar. You can never imagine this from their website . All the bar area was about 30 sq meters 5 bar stools and 5 chairs 1 couch, Girls were 5 (one was in the bar) so its like everybody is hanging out with everybody mo-fr 12.00-5.00 sa so 2200-500 U-Bahnhof Richard Wagner Platz (U7) 10eu entrance (or first drink) room 160€ per hour30 min = 80,-€. Champaign 20 €/glass or 90€ for bottle (7 glass)
I had a bottle and hung out for 1-2 hours and desided I would go elswere for sex as the only girl who spoke desent English (and I was stuck with her ) I wasn’t too attracted to her. She was 6/10 The rest were 8/10 -9/10 -7.5/10- 6.5/10(bar girl)

3.Club Chiquita-bar Old - Moabit 54 21.00 - 05.00 10555 Berlin http://www.chiquita.rotlichtmodelle.de they were a bit old and fat for me 50e/30min drink was 5-10euro

4.Tiffany: Ritterstraße 11 http://www.zobel-94.de 4 min. walkfrom Moritzplatz (u 8) Only 6 min. footpath from prinzenstrasse (u 1) The bus 140 goes almost to the door.Mon-sat 10.00-19.00 40 min-80 Euro 60’ -120e Went there at 17.00 but no answer

5.1001 NACHT http://www.club-1001-nacht.de Bleibtreustraße 29-30 10707 Berlin-Charlottenburg Phone: 030 8838914 Mo-Sa 21:00 - 05:00They asked for 30 euro to get in the bar area and I left .(who knows if the girls are worth it and what they will ask next ) maybe some other time .


6.bei Charlotte Sophie-Charlotten-Strasse 35. Charlotenburg http://www.bei-charlotte.de/ 12.00-06.00
30min 40euro 60 min 80euro Had Lavinia a Romanian girl 8/10 20yo sweet (the other girl was 4/10a) She confessed that she is working there elegal until she can get a fake marriage with a german .This got me to think if she was ever checked by a doctor and when she took her clothes off the dead fish smell had me all un intreastead .


7. http://www.frenchkiss23.de/home.html BAR Berlin - Wedding, Martin-Opitz-Str.23, supposed to be 24/h open and it was at 17.00 but no girls were there . so whats the use of being open?

[Toscana]

I wonder what the management of Artimis would have said if you had brought the matter up with them.

I am pretty sure the management would have supported the girl Helena. The stay in the room was over 30 minutes. Punkt, aus! And if they were very good they would have followed up by warning her in private, that they didn't expect a repeat of this sort of conflict. The management generally know very well, who the bad girls are and who the reliable girls are.

Chivaz's advice is spot on. We have to keep control. You simply stand up, take your towel and march out to pay. That said, it is indeed a shame that percent99 was treated like that. But in the large majority of cases, he won't be.

[Angus Magee]

Sometimes even a good girl feels the need to make something extra (because her freind told her she made an extra 60 this way or because she just wants to try) .
For me its not a big deal . If I had resoned with her I think I had a big chance of not paying the extra 60 but as I said my mind was on my flight.
I think I would not even have to mention to the desk (which if you want to go back there is not a good idea cause next day half the girls will be looking at you funny).

In the end I kind of admire your attitude here that it is simply not that improtant to argue over 60 euros. And the point about going back the next day is a good one.

In any case the most important thing is to let it go and look forward to good times.

Thanks for the report. I hope to visit Artimis one of these days.

[Percent99]

I actually protested this quite strongly and pointed out that she made no mention of the extra fee while my dick was in her mouth ready to explode. I was an fkk virgin at the time and I honestly, and probably naively, did not know that there would be an extra charge for cim.

After a couple of mins. arguing she relented and accepted the 60 euros I offered her. I think that often the girls rely on the fact that few guys want to argue in theses situations. I wonder what the management of Artimis would have said if you had brought the matter up with them.

Sometimes even a good girl feels the need to make something extra (because her freind told her she made an extra 60 this way or because she just wants to try) .
For me its not a big deal . If I had resoned with her I think I had a big chance of not paying the extra 60 but as I said my mind was on my flight.
I think I would not even have to mention to the desk (which if you want to go back there is not a good idea cause next day half the girls will be looking at you funny).

[Angus Magee]

Just to ad my 2 cents on the Helen thing being discussed, actually I would not be inclined to call it robbery. What this girl did was to hustle you, the classic up sell for which the profession is often named. It is what many of these girls do-but certainly not all of them as you have found out. And I realize that if I was the one who lost the money perhaps I would be calling it robbery.

In the end-you were taken and that never feels good.

I actually had an experience in Goldentime in Vienna where the girl, a young Romanian, was giving me bbbj and when I was close to finishing she looked up and said that she wanted me to cum in her mouth. Who was I to argue? So I released happily in her mouth...

Then when it came time to pay in a few mins. she announced that it would be 120 euros-double the 60 we had at first discussed

I actually protested this quite strongly and pointed out that she made no mention of the extra fee while my dick was in her mouth ready to explode. I was an fkk virgin at the time and I honestly, and probably naively, did not know that there would be an extra charge for cim.

After a couple of mins. arguing she relented and accepted the 60 euros I offered her. I think that often the girls rely on the fact that few guys want to argue in theses situations. I wonder what the management of Artimis would have said if you had brought the matter up with them.

[Kumbu]

I tried politely to cut the conversation short and she found a dozen subjects to talk about. When I was able to get out of one she opened another. So it was her intention to stall and that is robbery in my book.

I think you are justified in your assessment Percent99, it sounds like Helena was indeed different from the others in how she operates. Thanks for the great report on Artemis, this board is beginning to stock up on a good amount of info on this new entrant to the Berlin scene.

By the way, the days you visited Artemis, were they six in a row? Did you notice any differences in terms of the quantity/quality of the providers in relation to the day of the week? In particular, how were Saturday/Sunday versus the other days? Also, what time of the day/night did you visit? Thanks again,
kumbu

[DkFatBastard]

Hi Bobo,

I have tried Kamilla-Dee so I was aware of this and I totally respect this policy, and although I prefer bbbj it isn't a must for me. The attempt at getting CIM was to try it for the first time, just a little fantasy I wanted to live out. I'll guess that have to wait.

"Kamilla-Dee" told me that the ladies use condoms systematically (so, No CIM) : I hope they keep this behavior for eveybody's safety.

[DkFatBastard]

Hi Toscana,

I found all the agencies on the rotlichtadressen link that has already been provided by Angus Magee.

About the quality, I wasn't too happy with my choices, but it was only 2 escorts I tried out, so perhaps you could find a gem at one of these agencies. And offcourse YMMV applies in many parts of the mongering world.

Thanks very much for that report.

You didn't seem too convinced about the quality, but those are very good prices, if you can catch a good one. Could you put the links of the other agencies you found onto the forum?

Has anyone else had any recent experiences with escorts in this city?

[Percent99]

For me it’s the same thing Chivaz. As I said I was in a hurry to catch my plane as I had to go to my hotel and get my luggage and really tried to be nice to her and her stalling . I tried politely to cut the conversation short and she found a dozen subjects to talk about. When I was able to get out of one she opened another. So it was her intention to stall and that is robbery in my book. I am judging her as a provider and I am just saying that out of the 6 girls I went with (with all the others we went over the time limit and especially with Tania 15 minutes all having sex) Helena was the only one to ask for more money. She was also the only one who didn’t deserve it as she dragged me into conversations I didn’t want to have for a specific purpose.She also tried too hard in the midlle of having sex to sell stuff (like cim anal etc).This is not bad but if i didnt know it cost extra it would have come as a surprise to me at the lockers as she was saying "come in my mouth baby", but didnt say "its 50 extra cim.Lilly the red hair German the day before was sure to tell me 2 times to make sure I wanted this.
So conclusion: You can do better than Helena at Artemis.

[Henio]

...So I was being robed as we were in the room 40-45 min and the 15 of them were because she was asking me things and philosophizing....

Hi Percent,

Nice report. Just a little clarification: She may have tricked you into overstaying, but she did not rob you. The pricing structure is pretty fixed in the FKKs and if you overstay the 30 minutes in the room, no matter what is happening inside, she is entitled to the full hour. That is not a robbery, it is how the rules are.

Having said that, the better girls will not pull the stunt of trying to extend the session, and may even warn you that time is up, specially if you have made it clear from the beginning that you are only going to stay with her for 30 minutes. Always have a watch and keep track of time in FKKs. Make sure she sees that you look at your watch as you enter the room. If she is talkative after sex and you are reaching the half hour mark, suggest you will continue the discussion outside the room if you are not willing to pay for her time doing so.

Chivaz

[Angus Magee]

So I guess they are not worth it as you will be unsatisfied. I always say that it is better to pay something extra and have something to remember than to pay less and have a bad time.Ofcorse there is a limit to how much you can pay.The best way to go in Berlin is incall in my opinion (and many others).I will post some experiances I had in this trip with bars and other establishments later. Also fkk was not bad since you can choose before from many many live girls (not pictures with no face and retouched by photoshop).

I think part of it is just putting in the hours to get the experience needed to make a wise choice. When I see a picture on a web site I know what to look for to judge if the girl will be close to how she is pictured. The girls on the Callgirls Berlin web site all look dodgy to me. And at that price they will be overworked and underpaid (from their perspective).

Also there is the danger factor. I spoke with Sara about her working conditions and the dangers involved. She showed me her can of mace and claimed to have used it several times in her time in Berlin. This puts a girl on edge and results in a less fun time for the customer.

The house girls have a great deal of safety and (as one girl told me) they always have the right to refuse to see a cutomer if the so chose. Better working conditions equal happier girls and a better experience for the customer-us.

I find in Berlin one does not need to spend a lot to have a good time. One just needs to spend wisely and take the time to do the research needed to find the girl that makes it work for you. There is plenty of variety here in Berlin. That is why I like the mongering scene here.