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[Uggabugga]

Fellow Mongerers,

I'm afraid that I still cannot determine if the Artemis is worth the expense and effort. I've booked a trendy four star hotel as close as possible (on the Kudamm)

The Grand Wazoo

Wazoo, I know hotels in Berlin are fu¤#u cheap but if it's that important to you as it seems to be, I don't understand why you're so cheap about your fu¤%# money with regards to Artemis. Alternatively you should reallocate your money to a 1+ star and stay until 0500 at artemis :-)

Joke aside, you shouldn't miss it, really clean and nice place with more than enough meat unless you're looking for something very specific. Some seem to claim the interior to be over "the edge", but what the heck, it's a ***** house after all..............

[Dickrobin]

Hi Dr,
...
Have fun and remember to give back to the board with a report of your fun.

AM

Angus,

Thanks so much for your clear explanation. I won't be traveling alone unfortunately, but if I get a chance to have some fun I'll definitely report back.

DR

[Angus Magee]

Overall Rating: 9/10
Attractiveness of staff: 9/10
Quality of service: 9/10 (Massage and HJ only)
What's special: BBBJCIM from a rather young attractive girl

Hi T M,

Great report. I am glad that Miki has another fan and also happy that she has stayed longer than she indicated to me. Sheisse-now I may have to have her over for a repeat performance this coming weekend.

I also echo your wish that Hautnah continue in the business of bringing young lovelies to Berlin.

AM

[Angus Magee]

Hello all. This Berlin board is quite impressive -- lots of useful information and polite discussion!

I'm going to be in Berlin in a week or so and am interested in sampling at least one lovely lady (my budget is limited). I would like to visit an FKK at some point in my life -- just for the sheer luxury of walking around in a place full of naked women, all available for sex -- but Berlin doesn't seem like the place to start. So I'd like to check out a couple of brothels such as the famous Kamilla la Dee or Van Kampen mentioned here.

My main issue is this: Kissing and DATY are essential for me. At the brothels such as KD, VK and Royal, are these generally considered extras, or are they included in the 80 Euro half-hour fee? How much would it cost (on average) to add these services? If the response to these questions is that it varies depending on the girl, how does one go about determining these things -- should I ask very precise questions when the girls are being introduced (to avoid surprises), or is this considered impolite in some way? As you may be able to guess, I'm not at all familiar with this kind of "luxury" service -- my main experience is with the fairly crappy quickies that are the staple in Paris and Soho.

I don't speak any German but speak English and French -- it looks like a lot of the girls at least speak some English, so I guess language shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I would be very grateful for any information you might provide!

Hi Dr,

Well, the places you mention are your best bet for finding what you want, daty & kissing, but, at least for the kissing, I think you will have to pay extra.

If you read my past reports you will notice that I tend to favor Royal. I have been to VC and it is also a fine establishment but for some reason the girls at Royal I find slightly higher quality. And keep in mind that this is a personal thing. I am sure that you would find those who prefer VC. KD I can not comment on as I have never been there myself.

In my experience I have never had a Royal lady refuse daty-at no extra cost. And if I remember correctly cbj is also generally included, bbbj is extra. Kissing is usually a small extra fee,perhaps 15 euros, if the lady is into it. But I myself will not pay for kissing. I find that unless it happens "naturally" I'd rather not kiss. So I leave it up to the chemistry.

As for finding out this information, the best thing is to ask the Haus Mutti (Mamasan). This will be the woman who answers the door for you and takes you to the choosing room. Usually she will see you in, then the girls will come by one by one and then she will come back and ask you your choice. She will usually speak at least passable English and be able to direct your choice best. You can then confirm with the girl as you pay at the start of the session. Remember, in Berlin, if you do not find what you are looking for at an apartment it is perfectly acceptable to leave and look else where. I have done this many times and only once, in a very low class bordello, was I ever given any attitude for leaving.

Have fun and remember to give back to the board with a report of your fun.

AM

[Txl Muc]

Overall Rating: 9/10
Attractiveness of staff: 9/10
Quality of service: 9/10
What's special: BBBJCIM from a rather young attractive girl

After I read Angus Magee's post I felt seriously tempted to try Miki (http://www.hautnah-in-berlin.de/Miki.htm). Im glad to say that Angus' great report is entirely accurate apart from one thing - as of August 5th, Miki is still in town. In any case - thanks Angus' for pointing out Miki.

*** The telephone guy

When I called Hautnah, I was chatting to a smooth talking chap. Angus said that his English was good. I am German and I was mildly surprised that he speaks perfect German and is an entirely pleasant chap to talk to. In any case he took my mobile number to call me should there be any delays. He later called me to tell me that Miki was on her way.

*** Miki - first impressions

The telephone guy had announced was going to be 1/2h early. She promptly rang after the call. She arrived wearing tight jeans, a tight top and high heels and did have very little make up. Altogether she did make the impression of a sober 20 year old, very pleasant without anything remotely tarty about her. Greeted with kisses on the cheeks.

*** Miki - well, second impressions

I offered her to take a shower. In Berlin, I do live in a Serviced Appartment, told her to feel free to use the towels and other amenities. She seemed to be genuinely suprised by that and smiled. After a very quick shower she came back to the bedroom.
At that point, I was glad that I had used the beach towel earlier - which left Miki with a somewhat small towel. She is 1,64m, around 50 kilos, dark blond hair. Altogether she has a petite and near perfect body. The towel partially revealed her shaven pussy and her very shapely butt. I once had a girlfriend of African descent who claimed that caucasian women had flat butts - at that point I clearly knew she had been very, very wrong.

*** Playing with Miki

I had been reading while she had been showering and she asked me to undress. She also asked me to put on some music. I gladly obliged.

Miki's German is pretty much non existent, her English is sufficient for very basic conversations only. She says she had to learn French at school but did not pick up any. She claims to speak some Italian, which sounded credible.

Although we did not really share a common language, she was both cheeky and pleasant to be with. We joked about our differnce (I am much taller than her) in size and our lack of a common language - and landed in the bed.

At that time she was naked - she has perfect natural breasts, a very flat stomach and a neatly shaven pussy. I think in terms of her body she she is near a perfect 10. She is still petite, so YMMV.

After some more teasing - I had the impression she would not like to french kiss and did not push it - she started a very prolonged BBBJ. At times it was a bit rough and direct and I have experienced more varied technique. However, she deserves a 10 for endurance. She was enthusiatically doing me for more than 10 minutes - I then asked her whether CIM would be ok, she nodded and continued some more minutes. When I came, she took it, did not complain, smiled and seemed proud of the results achieved - but then quickly went to the bathroom. I do not think she is a natural swallower, and although the website says the girls will swallow I again did not push it.
After she came back I thought about what to make of the rest of our hour. I started to play with her body. However I had a tough week and decided to ask her to massage me. She told me that she would, but warned me of her limited knowledge. Again, her technique was limited but she enthusiatically tried her best.

I tried to chat with her while she massaged me - she says whe is 18, but I think she could well be 19 or 20. She comes from Bucharest in Romania and has been in Berlin for 2 months. While chatting, she can be girlish and she is generally best when she does things she seems confortable with. She IS very confortable with showing her body, even her most intimate parts - and while her petite body reminded me of Asian girls, that is something which is very different from the always towel wrapped Asians.
After the massage, we she started with another BBBJ. We were getting close to the hour though. So gents, while I might disappoint you I did not f* her and I cannot comment on her other skills. I am sure that I will have her again and will duely come back though.

*** In summary

Miki is a sweet girl and very enthusiatic. She is unspoilt enough to be pleasant to be with - and she is experienced enough to be confortable so show her assets and to have developped some skill and technique. I think she could be asked to go further - and as far as the website says she will go. I hope she will stay long enough in Berlin for me to verify that.

I had used Hautnah for the very first time, and judging from Miki they have an eye for gems. They are certainly small, but I hope that they continue to go for quality, not quantity.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for directions for posting a link to a specific report.

[Txl Muc]

Overall Rating: 5/10
Attractiveness of staff: 3/10
Quality of service: 6/10 (Massage and HJ only)
What's special: Massage from two ladies

I did notice an advert for Buppha Thai Massage on a Berlin site. After a Google search which recommended the place I did call and made an appointment. While 50 EUR for a 1 hour massage session suggested that I would not exactly meet perfect tens, the voice on the phone sounded reasonably nice and did conclude to go there.

What you should expect is a reasonable massage performed by two ladies who are around 40 years. They are polite, will offer you a HJ or more. However, did not feel tempted enough by any of the two ladies to accept.

In a nutshell, if you are after Traditional Thai Massage (NO sex), I believe that there are better places in Berlin - I personally like Atittan. Buppha Thai Massage seems a reasonable and reasonaly cheap compromise between a TTM and a HJ.

[Dickrobin]

Hello all. This Berlin board is quite impressive -- lots of useful information and polite discussion!

I'm going to be in Berlin in a week or so and am interested in sampling at least one lovely lady (my budget is limited). I would like to visit an FKK at some point in my life -- just for the sheer luxury of walking around in a place full of naked women, all available for sex -- but Berlin doesn't seem like the place to start. So I'd like to check out a couple of brothels such as the famous Kamilla la Dee or Van Kampen mentioned here.

My main issue is this: Kissing and DATY are essential for me. At the brothels such as KD, VK and Royal, are these generally considered extras, or are they included in the 80 Euro half-hour fee? How much would it cost (on average) to add these services? If the response to these questions is that it varies depending on the girl, how does one go about determining these things -- should I ask very precise questions when the girls are being introduced (to avoid surprises), or is this considered impolite in some way? As you may be able to guess, I'm not at all familiar with this kind of "luxury" service -- my main experience is with the fairly crappy quickies that are the staple in Paris and Soho.

I don't speak any German but speak English and French -- it looks like a lot of the girls at least speak some English, so I guess language shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I would be very grateful for any information you might provide!

[Angus Magee]

Hi Angus!

"Hautnah is now officially my favorite outcall agency in Berlin" !

Nice to hear but hurry up because a few of these nice ladys will go back to their country soon. I don`t know if they`ll be replaced properly!

:-)

Yes-Claudia is officially "im urlaub" according to the web site and the lovely Miki told me that she was going home on Aug. 4. She said she will return but who knows...

I can just hope that who ever is bringing these girls to Berlin continues. They do seem to have an eye for quality talent. There was another cute blond on the site for a while, not Nikol, but she can be seen in Nikol's photo set with Michaela & Nikol in a threesome photo. I hope she comes back for the autumn season. Not sure of her name. I would also give Nikol a try next month if she is still there. She is not so good lokking to me on the web site but I have found that the photos of these girls to not really represent them fully. Miki & Claudia both are much better in person than in the pics supplied.

But I must thank you again Grudgi for originally pointing this agency out to me. It is low profile in Berlin but is way above any of the more mainstream agencies.

I do remember that last year Hautnah closed for a couple of months. Their old web site was offline after Christmas and a new one was posted in early Feb. But I do hope they continue to do business in Berlin.

[Grudgi]

Hi Angus!

"Hautnah is now officially my favorite outcall agency in Berlin" !

Nice to hear but hurry up because a few of these nice ladys will go back to their country soon. I don`t know if they`ll be replaced properly!

:-)

[One Eyed Man]

And OEM, I have to say I agree with you about avoiding German girls in a lot of these establishments. They often have a sort of 'I'm generally too good for this' type attitude hidden just below the surface. Any friction and out it comes. Sounds like you had had one particular type of GFE, the GGFE or German Girl Friend Experience. Not to be confused with the other type.
AM

I didn't mean to sound like I was against German girls. Many of my past girlfriends were German, and I've had some great times with German pros. For instance, there's Natalie at Kamilla la Dee, who's this cool 5'10" German blonde girl (still there). This girl Sam at Van Kampen (started there after quitting her job, and probably went back to civilian life) was also great. Draw your own conclusions, but German (and Germany-based) escorts are really grateful when you DATY on them. Either Madlen of Candyshop was a psycho (I think she meant to give good service), or I just coincidentally managed to push all her buttons.

[Angus Magee]

http://www.hautnah-in-berlin.de/Hintergund.htm


Hautnah is now officially my favorite outcall agency in Berlin. Miki from that agency just left and I thought that I would get a report in before hitting the sack.

Again, top marks to the phone guy. He speaks English well enough to get a girl to the right address on time and he is polite and helpful. Miki arrived on time at about 5 mins. before the hour. As with Claudia I was a bit nervous about the pics on the internet. They show what could be and attractive girl but not for sure.

When Miki poked her head around the corner of my flat's stair case though I was very happy. She is a fresh faced natural beauty with a nice body. Wearing a typical young teen get up, black short pants (half way between the knee & the ankle and a nice pink top she looked great, She has dark blond hair past her shoulders and seems to wear some, but not much, make up-a little eye liner was all that I could see.

She came in and greeted me with the two cheek kiss and I took her to the phone and gave her 90 euros for the hour we would spend together. Then she asked for the bathroom. Okay, now if you read my review of Claudia you will note that I was a bit taken back when I realized that she did not shower fully between clients. I offered and she refused.

Now, by contrast, Miki headed right away for the shower. I smiled and and went to the living room to wait. Less than 5 mis. later M appeared wrapped in the towel I had given her. We sat on the couch and I asked her some questions to get things started.

Again I was struck by her good looks. Facially she is very nice. She has a kind of Eastern European beauty, with a touch of California girl (the blond hair & light complexion) and the freshness of youth. She speaks not much English (she did not get my corny jokes...) but enough. Her German is terrible and she says that she speaks a bit of Italian.

Now one of the questions was, do you go to school. She replied yes, I'm in grade 11. Now I froze. Grade 11? Where I come from that is like-16 yo. She must have seen my face as she started laughing and said-I'm 18 and taking a year off to work.
Whew.

I reached up and started to pull off her towel. I wanted to see her body. She kind of teased me a bit here (I love that) and pretended to resist a bit. I must have looked disappointed as she then let the towel drop. WOW. Her body was stunning. Her breasts are perfect. Not huge but big and so firm. No droop what so ever and capped with the cutest pointed nipples.

I cupped them and played with the nipples for some time. Next I lay her back on the sofa and went down for a taste of her shaved pussy. Again, sweetness and beauty. Very tasty.

Now as an aside here I do have one mild negative about the agency-and it is not a huge one. Perhaps more of an observation really. On the web site it states that all the girls do tongue kisses, Fr. total w/swallow, Naturesekt, come on face and covered sex. Now that is some standard menu.

In reality tough I noticed with both Claudia and Miki (more so with Miki) that the kissing was not really all that enthusiastic. Like it was a bit of a chore. Now i don't expect the girls to enthusiastically kiss me if that is not something that they are comfortable with. But it seems to me that the agency offers a bit more than they actually can deliver. Now Miki did kiss me, and later in the session it even got a bit more passionate, but it was not exactly what I saw on the web site. I can not help but wonder if this does not cause trouble for the girls.

Sp from here the session progressed very nicely. After some time licking her I lay back and she went to work on little A with her mouth. Great technique and so so pretty looking up at me.

At some point I moved us to the bed room. Here I had her do all sorts of fun things including some face sitting (having her squat above me and plant her ass squarely on my face was a slice of heaven, more bbbj, some nice bls, lots more daty, some posing, and a bit of face fucking (but this did not work so well as she was obviously a bit scared I would push too hard in her mouth).

Finally I was ready to go for a bit of doggy but then I realized that we were running a bit short of time. Schade. In fact I was not convinced that she would take little A all that well. During our romp I had a couple of times tried to get some finger action going. Each time I could not get past the second knuckle of my index finger in her pussy before she would tense up. She is very, very tight and a bit nervous about penetration I think. Again, I can't help but wonder if this gives her problems with some of her younger, less understanding customers. In a two hour session with a tube of lube and some clit stimulation I am sure it would work (and feel wonderful-she is tight!!!) But as time was short and I wanted to cum on her face anyway I let the idea of fucking her go.

So I sat in my chair with M at my feet and she went to work. In vet little time I was ready. I stood and got ready, taking little A from her grasp and taking aim. She looked so cute on her knees, face ready to receive my cum. She said pleas not in the eyes so I tilted her head back and told her to open her mouth which she did.

Well, the best made plans of mice and men...The first blast hit her squarely in the right eye..opps...the second went right to the back of her throat (I got my swallow ) and the rest all over her lips, chin and dripped to her breasts. Passing her a towel and apologizing for the eye shot I lead her to clean up.

She was good humored about it. I guess it happens from time to time. And she was soon in the shower again. This time I watched her shower and get dressed. She had very sexy little thong panties. mmmm

Soon she was on the phone and on her way. Right on the hour as a mater of fact.

So I was happy with my time with Miki. She is young, hot and agreeable to pretty much whatever I suggested. She was a bit reluctant (shy?) to masturbate for me but did give it a try. I would love to do an extended session with her-2-3 hrs and really get into it. I have the sense that she is a bit submissive and with a bit of time I could really get her going I felt.

Thats it for now-time to get some rest.

Thanks for reading.

[Angus Magee]

Angus appears quite high on La Folie (is it in the same class as Artemis?). How does the pricing compare? The goods? The atmosphere?

Thanks in advance and know that I'll do my duty and assist others where I can be of help.

The Grand Wazoo

Hey Gr. Waz.

Well sorry to say that I can not help with personal experience of Artemis. But There are those who seem to have had a good experience there. There are some reports in this Berlin section and you might also have a look in the Germany FKK section. I believe there is more in there.

Now i have a friend who has been a couple of times and he loves the place. I have heard criticism though that it is a bit hit & miss. And for 70 euros entrance my pockets are just not deep enough for a miss.

I believe that the pricing is on the web site http://www.fkk-artemis.de/
It is also in English if you look. If the price of a girl is not on there I think it is 60/half hr. Extras are, well, extra. Sorry, I do not know the prices.

Now, Artemis vs La Folie. They are very different places. For one, LF is not an FKK really. It is a bar with trim. It is small. Smokey, as are many bars in Germany. And there are not that many girls at one time. Perhaps 8-12 girls when I was there. But both times I was there was in August, a slow time of year and a time when many bars are slow. Maybe at other times of the year there are more girls.

But what can I say. The girls that were there were great IMO. Not all of them, but enough. I have been there, I think, three times. Each time I went with two girls. Of those, four were absolute knockouts. The first one was so-so but this was before I figured out how to say, politely, I'm not interested. And the other so-so girl (it was late and the bar was almost empty) started giving me a bj as I sat at the bar. What could I do...

Also the girls in LF are not all pros. There are girls who work just a couple of days a week to suplement their income from another job. I find this a turn on in itself. You just have to luck out and learn to spot the pros. Generally pretty easy actually. They are much more agressive.

At Aremis the girls are mostly live ins and they are there to do the job. I am sure that you can find a nice girl there, but it may take some digging-and remember to learn how to say, thanks, but I'm not ready to decide just yet.

Anyway-hope that you have a good time when you come wherever you end up. Oh-the pricing at LF is (or was-it may have changed and I have not been in a while) 14 euros to get in (includes your 1st drink) 60 euros for a half hour with a girl in a room. Lady drinks ? but as always a bit pricey and extras I do not know. I know that many of the ladies that I am interested in there (semi-pro part timers)did not do bb anything (ie bbbj). And kissing seemed to be very YMMV-some did, some didn't. This is a bummer if they don't, but fuckin fantastic if they do!!

Cheers

[The Grand Wazoo]

Fellow Mongerers,

I have searched far and low amongst this board as well as several others regarding the FKK Artemis. I've found some basic info and a few girlie tidbits but after a month and a half of serious googling I'm afraid that I still cannot determine if the Artemis is worth the expense and effort. I've booked a trendy four star hotel as close as possible (on the Kudamm) and expect to 'hunt' at the Artemis for a few days in early October. First let it be known that I'm a business guy from northen Europe and travel a few times a year to Berlin. Visited La Camilla's joint on a few occasions (so far the best brothel that I've experienced in Berlin) as well as Liberty and VanKampen (bit too pricey IMO).

Now as a FKK virgin I'm determined to break my cherry and do some serious debauchery.

Please please please can someone give me an honest and current account of the FKK Artemis. I suspect that many new ladies have arrived after the World Cup hysteria. Just looking for some basic reviews, tips, suggestions and overall thumbs up or down.

Angus appears quite high on La Folie (is it in the same class as Artemis?). How does the pricing compare? The goods? The atmosphere?

Thanks in advance and know that I'll do my duty and assist others where I can be of help.

The Grand Wazoo

[Arxontas Erastis]

Artemis is the only FKK in Berlin. However, if you do not mind a small smokey bar packed with hot (available) women you could try La Folie. Plenty written about it in this forum in earlier posts.

Thanks for your advise but I didn't read it early enough and I ended up at Artemis again. I promised myself I'm not going again!

I'll try La folie next time.

[Angus Magee]

Right, but what does she look like ? slim with big tits is not enough.

Thanks

It would be nice to have a description, for color in the report, but with a place like Artimis isn't the whole point to it that you go and have a look? If you are after someone in particular & know their name you can ask. He did make kind of oblique references to her being perhaps a bit chubby.