Berlin

[Gatsby67]

Even if you don't read much German, you should be able to navigate your way through the city of Berlin's homepage where if you find the Hotels" link on the left hand side, you will come to a screen asking you to narrow your search. If you select Charlottenburg from the pulldown menu, you will be presented with over 100 hotels in Charlottenburg alone. I lived in Berlin for a few years but usually stay with friends when I visit nowadays so can't really tell you much about most of the hotels myself. Most hotels are located close enough to Berlin's excellent transport links so getting around is never a problem.


http://www.berlin.de/tourismus-unterkunft/.html/index.html

Hotel Panorama (Lewishamstr 1, (030) 32 90 40 email: info@hotelpanoramaberlin.de) is on Adenauerplatz which is just south of S-Bahnhof Charlottenburg and walking distance to Stuttgarterplatz, La Folie, Kaiser-Friedrich 40, and the Ku'damm for the streetwalkers. Avoid the tourist traps on the Ku'damm itself and stick to what you see recommended here. Escorts visiting your room in a hotel is never a problem in business class hotels.

[Darkseid]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the great info on the sex clubs. Now I am trying to book a hotel near all the action but for the best prices. Can someone tell me which hotel they stayed at and which hotel branch as well. I need names of several hotels in case they get booked. I am going to be in Berlin from Jun 1 to Jun 4th. I don't want to end up booking a hotel 50 miles away outside of town. Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

[Crazy Ami]

First post, but first I'd like to say, I've been reading this board since I've got to Germany and the reports written have helped me enormously and saved me a lot of trouble. Thanks a lot, guys!

And now, after three months of sampling the delights of Berlin, Dresden, and Prague, here is my report on Berlin (I'll write a report on Dresden soon, everything's pretty much been said about Prague).

As a guy with no car and living outside of Berlin, I haven't been able to try a lot of different areas, but I've sampled many places in one specific district: Charlottenburg, namely Kaiser-Friedrich and Kantstrasse.

Sex-Kinos: I've been in most of them around the train station, and walked out just as fast. These women are, for the most part, not attractive at all, 2s and 3s all around. There are, however, a few exceptions, which I will expound here.

Cascade Kino (leave Charlottenburg Station, go up to Kantstrasse, take a right, walk 2 blocks): Same low quality of girls, but will give you cheap fuck - 47 EUR for half hour, and blowjob in the kino for 25.

Tutti Frutti (look left out of Cburg station, can't miss it) - there was an older Asian lady who just jumped on me when I sat down in the club (there's a sign for "bath shows," but I've never seen them, or the sets needed to do such a thing. This woman, forgot her name, was a 5 or 6 for her age (late 30s?), and was the most forceful woman I've ever met at a club. Took her top off and pushed her tits into my face, moved her panties over and begged me to eat her out; she was crazy. After 20 minutes of this and dirty talking the whole time, I finally decided to reward her diligence; it was expensive (80 EUR for half hour), but she took me upstairs to a room that looked straight out of an old New Orleans bordello from the 1800s. Sex was good, she kept calling me Robert Redford, but she did try to hurry me at the end. I won't go back, but it was an experience.

Starlight (again, straight out of CBurg station): Hands down, my favorite Sex Kino. If you have any kind of taste for Asians at all, go here on a weekend. They have so many Asian girls from all over, and all of them are very nice and accomodating. My favorite is Jasmin, tall, slim, huge breats, from Malaysia. I've been to her 4 times now, and she knows me by sight and name. She'll do all positions you want, doesn't really worry about time, and if she knows you, she'll sit with you in the Kino, no asking for drinks or sex, and just fondle you; she did this with me one night for 2 hours, no questions asked. Just conversation. Problem - she only speaks German; no English. There's also some Bulgarian girls in there that are quite nice and flirty if you don't want the Asian girls at the time.
Prices: 60 EUR 1/2 hr., 85 1 hr. ; warning, if you say it's your first time there, they'll charge you 70. 5 EUR entry, includes free beer.
Specials: Once for 50 EUR I got a blowjob from 2 girls (Jasmin and someone else), them taking turns blowing me and me fingering and fondling them all over in the Kino. Not bad.

I strongly suggest you simply avoid all the other Kinos (Chocolate, Golden Angel, Sushi, Marco Polo). If you want a cheap(er) fuck, you can easily find a prettier girl in some of the places in the earlier posts.

But, and in this I agree with apparently most of the people on this forum, the best place in Charlottenburg is, hands down, La Folie. For the longest time I simply couldn't find it, but I just didn't walk down far enough (walk out of CBurg station on Kaiser-Friedrich-Station for 3 or 4 blocks - it'll be there on the right, sign that says "La Folie - Night Club and Bar"). Now I will be a regular.
Entry is 15 EUR, and they give you a *tiny* towel and a card for a locker. This is an FKK club, so you disrobe completely and take the key and towel into the club (Advice: If you smoke, take your cigarettes too. You'll want them.) Give the key to the bartender, and remember your locker number; that's how they keep your tab. First drink's free. Take it and *don't* sit at the bar. The bartender will sometimes try to get you to buy a drink for her (unheard of in my experience) for nothing in return, not even the chance of taking her in the back. But the lounge is better anyway. Get yourself a comfortable seat (the towel is meant to be put between you and the couches, not as a cover) and scope the crowd. I've only been in on the Easter weekend, so it was very slow, but I've been assured by 2 girls that there are usually 20-25 girls in the club at one time. When I was there, I still saw about 10-12. Most of them were 7-8s, with a few 9s. Ethnicities I've seen are black, Spanish, Russian, Indian, and German. My stories with the girls follow.
1st visit: Sat at the bar for a while, no one really comes up to you. The girls sit on the couches and bed in the middle of the lounge (someone said something about live sex show?) and talk amongst themselves or smoke and gaze idly at the pornos on the 2 small TVs. Don't get the wrong idea; they apparently don't hate their job, they just wait for people to pick them instead of them coming to you. I went up to a beatiful Russian girl, Svetlana, 25, long black hair, tatoos on her legs. Asked her to sit with me, she perked up immediately! Told me it had been incredibly boring that night, and we immediately jumped into at least an hour long conversation. She never pressured me for a drink or anything else; just a great conversation. She was rubbing me all over the entire time, and when I finally suggested the room, her eyes gleamed again, and off we went. Great time, after a nice BJ I entered her from behind on our sides, spoonlike. Various positions followed. Great time.
2nd visit: Let me tell you, this was my best experience anywhere to date. It was the next day (this was Easter weekend), so it was still sluggish. Found a *beautiful* girl laying on the bed, 9+, thought she was Indian/Pakistani from a distance, turned out she was German from strong Spanish descent. Victoria, 22, again had a great conversation with her. The sex was great, and afterwards, we had more conversation for another hour! She's the first girl I've met at a club who really deepthroated me; she really enjoyed giving me a blowjob. It was amazing. Along with the conversations, it was my first real GFE, or the closest I'll find in an hour-long sex session (with 3 hours of conversation around it!)
Prices: 70 EUR for 1/2 hour, 100 for 1 hr.
If you go anywhere in Berlin, go here. It might be a little expensive for the city, but trust me, it's worth it. Prettiest girls outside of the Czech Republic, and nowhere near as many tourists.

Hope this helps a couple of you, and happy hunting! If anyone wants to set up a night to go cruising Charlottenburg, let me know, and I'll be happy to accompany you.

Cheers!

[Zippythepinhead]

Hello,

Van Kampen is at Mecklenburgischestraße 23a, in the same building as the large "Bauhaus" hardware store. It´s maybe one minute´s walk from U-bahn and S-bahn station Heidelberger Platz; when you exit the station you will see the building.

Royal is at Bundesplatz 8, similarly close to U-bahn and S-bahn station Bundesplatz(one S-bahn station over from Heidelberger Platz, very convenient...). It´s right on the platz at the southwest side, there´s a restaurant in the ground floor. Ring the bell for Royal, and they´re up two flights of stairs.

By the way, you can also try the nearby Sieglindestraße 9(-5 minutes walk from Royal; the quality is way lower, but prices start at 35 euros. They have one girl, Sandra, who is apparently very popular due to an unusual habit of forgetting to bring along a condom...Nearby at Varzinerstraße 1 (2 minutes´walk) is another one. I wouldn´t recommend it, but it´s worth a look if you`re in the neighborhood, I suppose. A couple of the Royal girls have moved on to a place at Wormserstraße 5(bei Schröder). One of them Liana, is something of a legend in the Berlin scene; she´s been around for nearly 20 years, and she´s still pleasant and good looking, and seems to actually like this job. She´s a dark skinned Italian with long hair dyed blonde, and she´s quite wild in bed; they offer a very interestng threesome program, I was just reading...she did Sado-Maso and group sex at Royal- a very talented lady!

[googly2]

Doggnose,

Can you tell me where in Berlin you can find Van Kampen or Royal?
Specifically, could you say which subway stop and which direction out of the subway, and whether its a safe neighborhood?

Thanks to you and others for the great reports on Berlin

[Zippythepinhead]

Sonnenallee 203 is always worth a look, but be warned, the fluctuation at all of these places in Neukölln is high. At the moment they have a cute bulgarian/turkish giirl there in the daytime, but she could vanish at any time. Both 203a and 203b have eastern europeans exclusively; I have often seen good looking girls there. At these cheaper places I personally always go for the 20 minute minimum for 35 Euros, as my experience has been that the service doesn´t get much better if you pay more; however, I am almost certain that they will accomadate your bbbj wish for a few Euros more. It´s best to go to this address in the nighttime, because 203a opens around 8 or 9 PM, while 203b is also open in the daytime. If you don´t get lucky here, you can also try nearby Weserstraße 202 for East Euopeans from late afternoon until late night ( I haven´t seen any good ones here for a long time, though), or Boddinstraße 60 after 8 or 9 PM. There you will find two places specializing in east european girls. Needless to say, these are all low level places frequented by dangerous looking turkish and arab guys(who else lives in Neukölln anymore?), but sometimes the quality of the girls is surprisingly high. For the more elegant sort, you can try Royal. A good portion of the girls there are from eastern europe (including the very good looking Maria from Czechoslovakia, or Laura from Ukrania). At the better places, the service does improve when you spend more, and there is much less fluctuation among the girls. Also, I was up at the Tabu bar at Quitzowstraße at the corner Rathenowerstraße in Moabit the other day; they´re specializing in Bulgarians at the moment, and there were two good looking ones there. I booked one of them , and was treated to a very nice body, but the often encountered artificial show of sexuality that they put on; too much groaning , a little too rough with her hands, etc.

Well, its just my opinion.

[Gatsby67]

Hi Doghead,

We're not in total agreement. Most of my best experiences have been with the escort girls. Granted, there are a few bad apples in the bunch, but you can certainly find the same quality as Van Kampen, but for 80 EUR you get an hour instead of 30 minutes! That's half the price my friend. I need an hour to get a second round in. Also, I'm a big fan of BBBJs and this is in my opinion better with the escorts than in the apartments. Finally,rarely have the apartment girls let me take some digital photos, whereas the Russian and Polish escorts often allow it (sometimes asking for an extra 10 Euro)

I've never been to the Sonnenallee 203b, but if its full of the East European girls I like so much, I'll be sure to check it out sometime soon. What sort of prices are they asking and do they do "Franzoesisch ohne?"

[Doggnose]

Hi Guys,

I couldn`t agree with Gatsby more...

There are basically 5 ways to get a girl in Berlin:

1) The Street
2) Sex Kinos
3) Massage Parlors
4) Escorts
5) Apatments

1) is pretty much your worst bet. Any girl on Kudamm, Oranienburgerstraße, Savignyplatz, or Straße des 17.Juni will be a rip off, 100%. Your only hope is Kurfürstenstraße, right at the U-bahn station of the same name. There you find girls who look like professional hookers, and girls who look like drug addicts; the former are likewise all rip offs, and the latter are all drug addicts. Some of the junkies are cute though, and if you’re very lucky, you might find a good fuck. However, the prices are high, and this is the place to come to in Berlin to contract HIV! Still, it’s fun to drop by and look, but don’t bother coming before 9 PM.

2) Is a much better bet. Most of these places are sleazy, and they mostly have relatively low class girls, but it’s cheap and you can sit in a well heated room for awhile and watch the movie. And you can get lucky and find a nice looking girl. If you’re an exhibitionist, try Braunschweigerstraße 30, near S-bahn Neukölln. The girls there will do it with you in the booths in the theatre for 27 Euros, while you subtly check out the action in the next booth. If you’re shy, they also have rooms. Admission 6 Euros. If you don’t score here, walk over to nearby Sonnenallee 203b, to try one of my favourite cheap apartments with girls from Eastern Europe- in the night time 203a houses another one, usually not as good.

3) Is a bit tricky. Many of these places only offer massages with no sex at all, others offer at the most a massage with a hand job at the end, and it’s a very expensive hand job. One exception is Dickhardtstraße 3a (love that street name!). This is currently the best Thai place of any kind in Berlin- The girls are good to excellent, sex is no problem, the rooms are pleasant, a shower is included, and prices are moderate. 60 Euros gets you a half hour of sex, and they’ll even throw in a massage if you want.

4) Do you have money to burn? No? Forget this bullshit! It’s expensive, you don’t know what you’re getting, sometimes you wait and the girl never shows up, and worst case you’ll end up in an argument with a tough Yugoslavian thug. Still, if you really must, some of these services do have websites, but don’t expect any help from me.

5) This is it! There are tons of these places around town, and you can usually find something good in any price category. The best of the best:

Van Kampen, Mecklenburgische Strasse 23a, www.lustgarten.de/VanKampen (mentioned in the previous posting): This is about as close to heaven as any of us poor sinners are ever likely to get. It`s kind of like walking into a photo shoot for lingerie ads. The girls are even better looking than they are on the website. They offer a quicky for 50 Euros but, jeez, what a waste…Go for the half hour for 80. For that price, the girls start to warm up, and some of them can get pretty damn warm!

Royal, at Bundesplatz 8, S- and U-bahn Bundesplatz.
http://www.royalhard.de/ If you can`t afford Van Kampen, try this. It’s a close second; the girls don’t quite have the drop-dead gorgeousness of the Van Kampen bunch, but they’re close behind and the service is even better on the average. 55 Euros gets you a half hour including a 69, and that’s all you’ll need.

Gina Oberlinstraße 3-4, near S-bahn Rathaus Steglitz, www.ginas-tango-rosa.de. Short of cash? Head on down to Steglitz for another of my favourites. They do a very nice quickie here for 35 Euros, and some of the girls are up in the same league with Royal.

Hindenburgdamm 76, www.Monas-Roses.de Miscount your money? Did you get all the way to Gina’s and find that you only have 30 Euros? No problem, a short walk gets you to Mona, the best 30 Euro fuck in Berlin. Most of the girls here are not as good looking as on the website, but you can usually find at least one good one. Ellen could get a job at Van Kampen no problem, but my personal fave is Vivien. She does the morning to early afternoon shift.

If you still haven’t found anything, look in the BZ newspaper, or head for an internet café and check out www.rotlichtadresse.de or www.lustgarten.de. It´s worth learning German just to read www.verkehrsberichte.de, a humungous board covering prostitution in Berlin and elsewhere.

Many people swear by Kamilla Douglas in the Blissestraße, http://www.kamilla-douglas.de/, but frankly, I don’t see what all the fuss is about. The prices are the same as Van Kampen, and no way are the girls as pretty. Still, it`s worth a look. In Berlin, you can always go shopping at these places; if you don’t see anyone you like, just smile, thank them politely, and go (don’t get into any discussions!). There’s also a place called “Dummichen” in the Katharinenstraße right at S-bahn Halensee(no. 22, I think), which seems to be an alternative to Royal for a lot of people, though it’s not quite my cup of tea.

One final late night tip: Club Tabu in Wedding Quitzowstraße at the corner of Rathenowstraße. Pay 5 Euros admission, and you get into a largish bar full of tough looking Turkish and Arab thugs. If you can get past them without getting knifed, you will see a bunch of sometimes good looking East-European girls sitting toward the back. If they’re not there, they’re at the bar downstairs in the basement. They’ll go with you into one of the back rooms for 50 Euros, and it can be a very rewarding experience. Slumming par excellence, not for the faint of heart. Don´t bother showing up before 11 PM.

Hope to see you all at one of these places!

[Gatsby67]

Another excellent brothel in Berlin:

Bei van Kampen
Berlin-Wilmersdorf, Mecklenburgische Str. 23a
Tel: 030 / 82 71 92 72

Mo - Fr von 10.00h bis 22.00h
Sa und So und an den Feiertagen von 12.00h bis 20.00h

http://www.lustgarten.de/VanKampen/index.htm

You will have no trouble finding english-speaking girls here, as most of the girls are German and not Eastern European. However, for the same reason, it is slightly more expensive by Berlin standards, but on par for the rest of Germany.

[Gatsby67]

@notnagel

What you write about there being no brothels in Berlin couldn't be further from the truth. There are heaps of them too, as well as sex-kinos. What Berlin doesn't have to my knowledge is the "Laufhaus" which is familiar to those visiting the RLDs in Frankfurt and other towns in the west of Germany. Berlin is something of a paradise for paid sex because of its proximity to Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe. Prices in brothels are cheaper than elsewhere in Germany. Its a classical supply/demand phenomena.

Many of the brothels advertise in the BZ or Berliner Kurier. You generally wouldn't notice them walking down the street, as they are more discreet. You can do some searching at

http://www.berlin-diskret.de/berlindiskret/

There are also several brothel/escort discussion boards in Germany if you can read German. For example, try www.verkehrsberichte.de

Kaiser Friedrich Strasse 40 is a well known and established brothel near the S-Bahn Charlottenburg station. Usually 4-8 girls work there. On the web: http://www.kfs40.de/
It is across the street from La Folie, which has been mentioned here in previous messages.

Other sites to visit on-line and/or in person are:


http://www.relaxmassagen.de/index.htm
http://www.erotik-berlin.de.vu/
http://www.zartsex.de/annabelleins.htm
http://www.erotikpur-modelle.de/home.html
http://www.lustgarten.de/toplist/no-cgi/index.html

There are even a few FKK clubs, but they are much smaller and no match for Frankfurt/Cologne/Ruhr areas.

There are great escort services in Berlin, but you will probably need to speak basic German (or some eastern European language) to get what you want.

I would only caution you that the street scenes, Ku-damm, Kurfurstenstrasse, Oranienburger Strasse, and Strasse der 17. Juli are generally a rip off, and if you are not German, it is nearly certain you will be robbed.

Search and ye shall find all the ye seek!

[greatscandi]

Has anyone of you ever tried La Folie in Berlin? I've been there several times and have to say, that this place is really great, if you are not too shy. It is a kind of a FKK-place, where you have to get undressed before you can enter the premises. Girls are topless or completely naked as well. Sex can take place in public, allthough I've never seen it happening in this place. The private rooms available are very comfortable and of high quality. Girls come from Germany, Eastern Europe and Latin America. Some real stunners among perhaps 30 - 50 girls. They even have a web-site at http://www.la-folie.de/

Highly recommended!

[notnagel]

Recently I have been in Berlin and I was looking for some fun. First, I found that a bit difficult, because Berlin does not have (at least to my knowledge) brothels or a redlight-district.
I bought a local tabloid and scanned the adverts for ladys or establishments offering their services. I decided to visit a place called Lucky in the eastern part of town near Lichtenberg station. It was a place with Thai girls. When I arrived (it was already 10 pm) only two were available, but it seems, that there are actually more ladys.
The looks were not extraordinary (a bit skinny), but ok.
The place was clean, the rates fair (35 Euro for 20 minutes, 50 for 30 minutes, 100 for one hour). That lady was lovely and real fun. She was completely nude, when we started the action. First she gave me a fantastic blowjob. Then we spent the rest of the time relaxing and having fun with each other.
30 minutes were really 30 minutes, and it was an enjoyable experience.

[Anonymous]

I see that the last reports on Berlin's sexkinos are from 1999, and as I have just spend a single day and night in Berlin, I can tell something about it and about the new rates (in the €uro currency).

First sexkino I entered was in KantStrasse, just a few metters away from the Ku'damm (KufursdammStrasse) in KantStrasse. It is called 'Film Studio' (or something like that). Allowance fee is 5.20 €uro. Once entered, you discover a small room with arm chairs and many men watching a porno movie. No girls. This turns out to be a gay zone. If you wait a little, some man is going to stand un and go and inspect you. As this is not my choice, I turned away.

About 200 mtrs from that, in the same street (KantStrasse, 120) is the Cascade sexkino. Just for your information: numbering in german streets is different than in other places, and 120 actually turns out to be in front of 50, so don't be dissapointed if after walking for a while you're around 50: then you're close.

Allowance fee is 60 €uro. Then you enter a bar where you are offered a drink, but don't know if it is included in the fee (I didn't take anything). I could spot two black girls, one of them gorgeous (tall, thin, beautiful), and 3 more girls. This was around 6 P.M.. Pasing throught the bar you enter the kino: screen's good, and there are about four private places to watch the screen. In a while, a girl will appear and ask if you want company.

First girl to appear was a Yugoslavian (she said) around 35 or more. She asked 15 €uro for handjob, 25 for sucking and 45 to go in a room for 20 minutes. I went on with the first one, although she asked me to keep the change (5 €uro) and do it better, and I agreed. She did well, although I didn't end (that's me, I'm difficult!). She asked again for more money, but I asked for another girl. She told me there were no germans, one thai (that was occupated, and I saw her before: normal middle-aged, not very astonishing for me), another yugoslavian and two blacks. She told me if she could present to me the other yugoslavian and I agreed. She was normal, around 30. She sat next to me and after playing for a little while (2 min) she asked what would I do, if I would invite her to a drink for 12 €uro, and I agreed. She came back with the drink and sat for a while. After, I went on again with the cheaper offer. She was a little bit repetitive asking me for 25 and a suck, but I didn't agree, or to give her 5 €uro more and show me her tits, but I wasn't plenty of money. She did it well and ended me. After that, I didn't have left money to test the only one interesting there: the gorgeous young black women, so I went out.

After all: 6+15+5+12+15 = 53 €uro, 1 handjob. Nothing important to remember.

After that I enjoyed a university party and, for a fee of 5 €uro, had some fun (no sex) dancing. Much better!.

I hope you can make something out of this experience. Cheers.

P.D.: Berlin is a beautiful city in Christmats (Weinachten) and has many places to enjoy yourself. Hope I'll be around next time, but I think not in a sexkino.

[Cachondito]

Berlin2626,

Does being Turkish help in terms of safety in those streets you mentioned? Even if I'm a metal guy with long hair and don't resemble the average Turk in Germany? I mean I have absolutely nothing in common with those people except the language, but do they treat Turks who are not "German Turks" right? And would the girls treat me badly if I say I'm Turkish? Should I simply say I'm from Canada, which is actually where I live? I speak moderate German too, would that help anything at all? One more question, what would you say about St. Pauli? Is it worth a visit too or is Berlin just enough? I'll be visiting a German friend of mine in Berlin. And then leaving the country is what I plan on doing, so I hope Berlin is good enough.

Thanks in advance for your help...

[Stumpy]

Any top tips for Berlin there will 7 hungry males going to the city and we would like to know what is the best fkk or sw. are there any areas to avoid or are a MUST SEE. great forum by the way.
we are going to be there on new years eve