Frankfurt

[Kosher Kowboy]

Always make sure your clothes and belongings are near the door and easy to put on.

I agree with all posted will just tack on to the above as one guy asked me about safety in the RLD so I will put it here. I have been to some extremely shady areas abroad and in the USA here especially some absolutely terrible ones in DC and Chicago (don't ask why, this hobby is one) and I would say danger can lurk anywhere and one should always cover their tails but I find the entire RLD even if you walk to the far ends of the streets to be just fine; imo no one wants trouble and the police and even I suspect the girls pimps / Security seem to keep all behaved; neither want issues nor do the girls. One time I saw a guy tell some guys to split and he was not in any uniform.

As said above in case a quick exit needs to be made have your clothes handy ready to go. My iphone I always keep zipped in an interior pocket to add an extra ' layer' of security as opposed to an easy spot to reach and grab it like your pants pocket. I have plenty of cash in my hotel room and my passport so I bring a copy of my passport and leave three of my four credit cards in the safe as well as my debit card just to avoid the ' get cornered and forced to use the cash station'; I carry my AMEX on me at all times in case emergency and with the app / or laptop I can turn off the card. That leaves just cash; services I seek are usually 50-70 so I bring that exact amount in one pocket, a 50 a 20 a 10 and a 5 (to make any amount between 50-70 with 15 extra if needed) and in the other pocket a 5 and 10 note to total 100 and I also have the option to do a 100 session or simply have cash for Turkish food on the way back. If my session is a bust or I have an issue I return to the hotel just 5-10 min away on foot and get more money. Likewise if I want to fuck again I go reload the cash to equal 100.

All of the above is probably a little extra precautionary than needed but you just never know, so far no issues, nothing even close to an issue. Beggars are everywhere many addicts but just ignore them, like in any large metro area.

As to prices, work your own deal nothing is entirely fixed maybe 20 is a good rule of thumb and 50 for personalized service. Girls charge on a YMMV basis, one girl I read about on a local site is very pretty and charges most guys 50 for 30 minutes of full covered GFE and 100 for AO w / o CIP yet a guy I know pays her 80 and gets 30 minutes of full GFE but AO with CIP and tons of FIV or ass play usually goes over and yes.

I will be headed to her door in two weeks!!

Happy travels.

[Optimist]

Going to Frankfurt a day or two after new year. So far I have been exclusively going to FKK (10-15 trips) and want to try something new this time.

Which RLD house / building most likely to have younger (21-24 yrs)/ GFE girls?

What are the average prices for HH and 1 H? And extras like anal / cif / CIM / multi shot?

Are Nuru / B2B massages worth it?

There are no infallible answers. The younger girls may often be found in T26 and T32, but other houses are worth checking as you may find the top looking girl in a house of mainly older Thai women. It only takes 30 minutes for a fit guy to check out most of the houses and the searching is part of the fun. On your second scouting circuit the girls will realise you are a real customer and will make more effort to close a deal.

GFE is not easy to find, even in FKK. Either you need to have charisma, be hot, or somehow make the girl see you as different to the run of the mill fuck and go customer. Humour, respect, compliments, being relaxed, can all work.

Prices vary. 20 euros can get a basic 20 minute service with a less popular girl. 100 can, with luck, get the kind of one hour service which in an FKK would cost well over 300. I usually aim for really good looking girls, and if it includes anal and other special services, am happy to pay up to a 100 for half hour. Prices for extras are very very negotiable. Two or three extras will cost less per extra than one as the girl is looking at the total. If you are offered one extra for 25 or 50, then maybe agree to two extras for the same price: she gets her money, you get the service

Nuru / B2 B. A matter of taste.

In the end you just have to explore, go by your instinct, and take a chance. Chat to the girl for a minute or two before agreeing to a session, and be nice and friendly to her, check if the price includes undressing, kissing, and so on, according to your preferences.

If you are in a session after paying and the girl starts to renegotiate, leave immediately, don't give her time to regain the initiative. Always make sure your clothes and belongings are near the door and easy to put on. Having said that I have only had maybe two such sessions out of 100.

[Dittoow]

Going to Frankfurt a day or two after new year. So far I have been exclusively going to FKK (10-15 trips) and want to try something new this time.

Which RLD house / building most likely to have younger (21-24 yrs)/ GFE girls?

What are the average prices for HH and 1 H? And extras like anal / cif / CIM / multi shot?

Are Nuru / B2B massages worth it?

[JaxSo]

I've done my best to look back at previous posts and thank JHarris for much of his helpful posts regarding escorts in Frankfurt. In addition to *** are there other places to look for reviews? I've been through kaufmich; however I'm curious about the agencies lady luck and Frankfurt-Escortgirls (which I cannot find anything on). Are their German boards I can check for these? The photos seem to good to be true; however in London such photos tend to be quite close with photoshop at worst. Some of these almost seems like borrowed photos altogether.

The second agency I mentioned can be found here https://www.frankfurt-escortgirls.com/escort-ladies.

*Not looking for a visit to the RLD this trip.

You can maybe check theeroticreview, maybe you can find reviews about those agencies in Frankfurt section. Good luck!

[Kosher Kowboy]

I'm sure 2019 will be even better for you in the wonderland of FKKs as you gain experiences over the years. For me also, I would like to think it's improving. One thing I started to notice over the years is that I'm going to less number of girls and doing longer sessions with someone I click. Even with a girl new to me, I start with a standard 30 minutes session, but if I'm enjoying her beauty, the body, the sex as well as the time with her, I end up extending it to 2 or 4 or even 6-10 hours session. Basically stay with her as long as she can entertain me. Maybe we actually fuck only once per hour or per two hours, but before we even talk about it, the session becomes full AO with CIP even in the mainstream clubs and "we are in love". LOL you get my drift. But my most surprising AO was in GT when right in the kino right in the first session in first fuck since we met 10 minutes back, the girl says "you look clean, ok if we do without? I always had a fantasy!" Couple of guys sleeping in the kino probably didn't realize what's going on few feets away from them. That was a damn turn on. And once in Oase old kino, another be*tch came and asked my girl that she must use condoms for fucking, apparently it was a club rule even in 2015. Such a cockblocker!

I almost use a principle for AO that I never paid or will pay extra for it. I usually do longer sessions with my AO girls in mainstream clubs so eventually they earn much more than the non-AO girls sitting waiting twindling their thumbs and smoking waiting for customers. Everyone has a choice. I think my AO-girls understand that choice very well, and smart enough to never ask their already good paying customer (s) for any money above and beyond standard rates. They even give discounts sometimes. So far only one once asked for my STD test report which I carry anyway when traveling to the wonderland, rest just checked my dick visually for a minute or so. I think they understand well the risks vs. Rewards of this line of jobs, and knows how to manage the risks. Probably they think it's less risky to do AO with a clean (er) customer and make more money from few of these known customer (s) than doing BBBJ with 10 random guys (who knows what diseases they carry and spread) per day to make much less money?

Good strategies and plans. To get to that magical moment of regular AO takes time, money, a little luck and / or some skill with varying degrees of each employed on a ' case by case' basis. Sounds like you have your game plan down. I have thought about extending appointments with some I think I will have luck with and have a hunch I'll find some more AO gals with red towels in the near future. I plan to use the girl I did AO with as a springboard for more Invisible Condom users and already have a small handful in mind. I think I wear a condom 10 percent of the time at most here at home but the game works a tad differently but many dynamics the same and girls mentality often as you described it. Find it once find it twice. My best AO in Germany was a German girl who was at the time new to the industry and when I was doing her and had trouble keeping it up she said ' it's the condom' reached down and tossed it far away and the few times I did her after that were all AO for the old Mainhatten 50 Euro for full 30. She told me she hated condoms. Along the lines of the longer appointments you mentioned I think investing much time at one club and maybe a few trips to some others here and there is a strategy that will work for me being a fly in who isn't there often like locals and let the girls give it up to get the appointments as they see me bounce from girl to girl and eventually like a dog is trained one (or more) like this past one will realize ' they need to step out of the box (wrapper)' to earn loyalty

There was one girl I saw doing AO in the hot tub so waiting on her to return. She was German. There is another German there too. I like German girls especially German girls not in cartels who do not give a shit what any Romanian says.

Another one was giving me a ' unique eye' last trip, a look beyond that usual ' I want my turn for 100 e' more so ' I am going to leapfrog these other girls you see. ' I think she is the perfect test sample for the ' Gino multi hour angle' ; dangle the carrot, pay her more than I have others and she is not stupid; she wants to keep getting paid she needs to hit a home run when it is her turn at the plate or she might not get another at bat and I saw in her eyes a girl wanting an 'at bat. ' I think it is worth it. It is all a numbers game and time thing; if I toss enough spaghetti up against the wall eventually one (or more) will stick. My magical line did the trick last time, I will use the line more often as it was an instant winner.

I hate condoms.

They suck!

[Gino02]

All of my Latina past girls have deleted my phone number, all asked for money and / or got tired asking when my next journey there was only to be told ' no plans. ' No money, delete number.

I say ' yeah right' too at least in my head when I get that ' Don't say anything, you are only one I do this with' etc. Etc. , same bullshit lines here used too with that. Although I have gotten AO from 4 (maybe 5) different girls in mainstream clubs I have collected zero phone numbers, the only phone numbers I have are girls who AO 15 plus men per day, 5 days a week for maybe 9-10 months a year

I have not reached the level of honor where one gets mainstream AO numbers, maybe one day but I would think a good AO girl who stays away from addictive products, puts money away and has a long loyal clientele (often AO will get this) , referrals from those guys and new guys she takes on probably makes a tad more money too in what guys pay and / or tip could easily amass a fine amount of money. You have much more time invested there so am sure you have met many of these types over the years, maybe I will get lucky in 2019.

I do know some not all of the Gypsies live some very nice lives outside the clubs, lifestyles American hookers could only dream of; vacations in luxurious places, shopping in Europe's finest cities and so on. And they only get 40 e a fuck! That being said I can only imagine what a girl in mainstream doing AO with higher paying regs could make and I have no doubt you are probably correct in your observations in the case of some of these AO girls you keep in contact with and am sure there are others as you say socking away Euros for the future by letting their clients use the most popular brand condom in the world created by God.

The Invisible Condom.

I'm sure 2019 will be even better for you in the wonderland of FKKs as you gain experiences over the years. For me also, I would like to think it's improving. One thing I started to notice over the years is that I'm going to less number of girls and doing longer sessions with someone I click. Even with a girl new to me, I start with a standard 30 minutes session, but if I'm enjoying her beauty, the body, the sex as well as the time with her, I end up extending it to 2 or 4 or even 6-10 hours session. Basically stay with her as long as she can entertain me. Maybe we actually fuck only once per hour or per two hours, but before we even talk about it, the session becomes full AO with CIP even in the mainstream clubs and "we are in love". LOL you get my drift. But my most surprising AO was in GT when right in the kino right in the first session in first fuck since we met 10 minutes back, the girl says "you look clean, ok if we do without? I always had a fantasy!" Couple of guys sleeping in the kino probably didn't realize what's going on few feets away from them. That was a damn turn on. And once in Oase old kino, another be*tch came and asked my girl that she must use condoms for fucking, apparently it was a club rule even in 2015. Such a cockblocker!

I almost use a principle for AO that I never paid or will pay extra for it. I usually do longer sessions with my AO girls in mainstream clubs so eventually they earn much more than the non-AO girls sitting waiting twindling their thumbs and smoking waiting for customers. Everyone has a choice. I think my AO-girls understand that choice very well, and smart enough to never ask their already good paying customer (s) for any money above and beyond standard rates. They even give discounts sometimes. So far only one once asked for my STD test report which I carry anyway when traveling to the wonderland, rest just checked my dick visually for a minute or so. I think they understand well the risks vs. Rewards of this line of jobs, and knows how to manage the risks. Probably they think it's less risky to do AO with a clean (er) customer and make more money from few of these known customer (s) than doing BBBJ with 10 random guys (who knows what diseases they carry and spread) per day to make much less money?

[Locke0000]

I've done my best to look back at previous posts and thank JHarris for much of his helpful posts regarding escorts in Frankfurt. In addition to *** are there other places to look for reviews? I've been through kaufmich; however I'm curious about the agencies lady luck and Frankfurt-Escortgirls (which I cannot find anything on). Are their German boards I can check for these? The photos seem to good to be true; however in London such photos tend to be quite close with photoshop at worst. Some of these almost seems like borrowed photos altogether.

The second agency I mentioned can be found here https://www.frankfurt-escortgirls.com/escort-ladies.

*Not looking for a visit to the RLD this trip.

[LaBambaBoy]

All good choices. Sharks has it all, something for everyone and 50's to be had all over despite much doom and gloom in posting. For three years now I read ' doom and gloom' all over the ISG yet once in Germany experience exactly what I expected or what was not ' sky has fallen' or ' sky is falling' as one would think from the posts. Enjoy Sharks, probably go there myself. Dietz I am sure will go next trip just not much, thin January LUs traditionally and tons of men after the first often as holidays have wrapped up and men rush to the club having broken free of their wives and kids. Even M-F in January can seem like weekend days which are normally crowded with the best girls booked (often prebooked via WhatsApp or FB) for 1-2+ hours.

ROM I haven't been to, Lanthano has written very nicely about the club and several local Germans have told me about it and not one has said a bad thing except it is smaller, LU's smaller, more of a local place than a mega club which for me is just fine. I love small LUs even a handful will work, the experienced monger makes any LU work and sometimes the smaller they are the better. To each our own. It so happens I ran in to a girl at Mainhatten last time who I used to see often who also works (ed) ROM and she told me she works ROM when it is busy and when not comes to Mainhatten as per her ' I can't live off just 50 rooms' , if ROM is packed it is great but when slow she splits for the two city clubs to feast on 100 sessions. I will probably try ROM in Feb and / or April as those trips are 9+ days so I can buy that ticket special where if you return the return visit is really cheap. When this girl tells me ' I can't live off 50 rooms' it tells me one can fuck in this club for 50 no problem and the majority of girls are giving it up for 50 or this girl would not have said what she said to me.

Thanks for the Dietz commentary, I was a bit concerned about the January setup. I'm thinking Sharks all day will be my best call, but I think I may hit ROM on one weeknight just for the experience. I plan on returning in May / June, so I may push for a Dietz experience then.

[Kosher Kowboy]

About 4 years back, I stopped responding any WhatsApp or FB or SMS messages from any of my FKK "girlfriends" the moment they started asking for financial help remotely. Interestingly I found that only FKK girls I still communicate remotely are the AO girls from World, Sharks, Oase, GT, LR, F39 and Dietzenbach, and none of them ever asked for a penny more than the standard room / time we spent in the FKK or OTC. Some of these AO girls claim I'm the only special guy who they do and "enjoy" AO, and I say "yeah right!" and smile LOL. Anyway, makes me wonder if the AO girls manage money better? Or there's no correlation? Interestingly most of these AO girls bought multiple apartments back in Romania, and / or already started clothing shops etc there. I even stayed with one in her pretty nice apartment in Bucharest, and it's much better than my little condo in USA!

All of my Latina past girls have deleted my phone number, all asked for money and / or got tired asking when my next journey there was only to be told ' no plans. ' No money, delete number.

I say ' yeah right' too at least in my head when I get that ' Don't say anything, you are only one I do this with' etc. Etc. , same bullshit lines here used too with that. Although I have gotten AO from 4 (maybe 5) different girls in mainstream clubs I have collected zero phone numbers, the only phone numbers I have are girls who AO 15 plus men per day, 5 days a week for maybe 9-10 months a year

I have not reached the level of honor where one gets mainstream AO numbers, maybe one day but I would think a good AO girl who stays away from addictive products, puts money away and has a long loyal clientele (often AO will get this) , referrals from those guys and new guys she takes on probably makes a tad more money too in what guys pay and / or tip could easily amass a fine amount of money. You have much more time invested there so am sure you have met many of these types over the years, maybe I will get lucky in 2019.

I do know some not all of the Gypsies live some very nice lives outside the clubs, lifestyles American hookers could only dream of; vacations in luxurious places, shopping in Europe's finest cities and so on. And they only get 40 e a fuck! That being said I can only imagine what a girl in mainstream doing AO with higher paying regs could make and I have no doubt you are probably correct in your observations in the case of some of these AO girls you keep in contact with and am sure there are others as you say socking away Euros for the future by letting their clients use the most popular brand condom in the world created by God.

The Invisible Condom.

[Kosher Kowboy]

In mid January I'll be arriving on a Tuesday morning, have all day / night Tuesday to reacquaint myself with the lovely ladies of FKK land. I'll also have Friday night as well.

Now, last time I hit Mainhatten and Sharks. This time I'll have a car and have a hotel in the Darmstadt for Tuesday night. Arriving Tuesday morning, I am torn between 3 plans:

1 - go to Sharks. (I quite liked it last time. Adult candyland for a reasonable negotiator).

2 - go to FKK ROM at noon (Lathano has made this small club sound quite nice), and then go to Sharks for the evening.

3 - go to Dietz for the KK gypsy experience, and then repair to Sharks in the evening.

Another thing on my list is to hit the RLD on one of the late nights during the week -- what is the most convenient way to get there and get back to a car late at night? I'm not keen on driving into downtown Frankfurt at 1 am and parking, necessarily.

Thanks everyone.

All good choices. Sharks has it all, something for everyone and 50's to be had all over despite much doom and gloom in posting. For three years now I read ' doom and gloom' all over the ISG yet once in Germany experience exactly what I expected or what was not ' sky has fallen' or ' sky is falling' as one would think from the posts. Enjoy Sharks, probably go there myself. Dietz I am sure will go next trip just not much, thin January LUs traditionally and tons of men after the first often as holidays have wrapped up and men rush to the club having broken free of their wives and kids. Even M-F in January can seem like weekend days which are normally crowded with the best girls booked (often prebooked via WhatsApp or FB) for 1-2+ hours.

ROM I haven't been to, Lanthano has written very nicely about the club and several local Germans have told me about it and not one has said a bad thing except it is smaller, LU's smaller, more of a local place than a mega club which for me is just fine. I love small LUs even a handful will work, the experienced monger makes any LU work and sometimes the smaller they are the better. To each our own. It so happens I ran in to a girl at Mainhatten last time who I used to see often who also works (ed) ROM and she told me she works ROM when it is busy and when not comes to Mainhatten as per her ' I can't live off just 50 rooms' , if ROM is packed it is great but when slow she splits for the two city clubs to feast on 100 sessions. I will probably try ROM in Feb and / or April as those trips are 9+ days so I can buy that ticket special where if you return the return visit is really cheap. When this girl tells me ' I can't live off 50 rooms' it tells me one can fuck in this club for 50 no problem and the majority of girls are giving it up for 50 or this girl would not have said what she said to me.

Just another idea, Sharks will not be ' as packed' as many of the girls will not be back and some of the top level ones will take off until February which means the ' lesser tiered' girls will have January to make as much as they can (small window of opportunity) before the masses of girls come back meaning opportunist mongers can take advantage of this and you are staying right there. This is one reason why my January trip like last year will see much less Dietzenbach (lines / crowds / less girls) and more Sharks / Mainhatten, lands of opportunity to also build foundations for the 2019 year

Enjoy your trip.

Easiest way to get to the RLD from Darmstadt is the train, :19 min train ride for 8,50 each way, RLD two min walk once you exit the station in FFMain. After midnight or 1 AM or so the trains run less but there are still express trains to avoid the ' all stop' ones that take :45 min ( same price)

[LaBambaBoy]

In mid January I'll be arriving on a Tuesday morning, have all day / night Tuesday to reacquaint myself with the lovely ladies of FKK land. I'll also have Friday night as well.

Now, last time I hit Mainhatten and Sharks. This time I'll have a car and have a hotel in the Darmstadt for Tuesday night. Arriving Tuesday morning, I am torn between 3 plans:

1 - go to Sharks. (I quite liked it last time. Adult candyland for a reasonable negotiator).

2 - go to FKK ROM at noon (Lathano has made this small club sound quite nice), and then go to Sharks for the evening.

3 - go to Dietz for the KK gypsy experience, and then repair to Sharks in the evening.

Another thing on my list is to hit the RLD on one of the late nights during the week -- what is the most convenient way to get there and get back to a car late at night? I'm not keen on driving into downtown Frankfurt at 1 am and parking, necessarily.

Thanks everyone.

[Gino02]

Lanthano. Thanks for the correction.

As for rld vs FKK, I'll bow out as I haven't been to rld for six months. In the past I always struck very lucky in rld, which is why I kept going back. The secret is largely as you say.

One bonus with rld girls is that I never found one who was in desperate financial need to rescue a sick relative from the jaws of death, and who declared to me that I was the only person in the world she could turn to for money lol "please help me, I have only you in the world"

About 4 years back, I stopped responding any WhatsApp or FB or SMS messages from any of my FKK "girlfriends" the moment they started asking for financial help remotely. Interestingly I found that only FKK girls I still communicate remotely are the AO girls from World, Sharks, Oase, GT, LR, F39 and Dietzenbach, and none of them ever asked for a penny more than the standard room / time we spent in the FKK or OTC. Some of these AO girls claim I'm the only special guy who they do and "enjoy" AO, and I say "yeah right!" and smile LOL. Anyway, makes me wonder if the AO girls manage money better? Or there's no correlation? Interestingly most of these AO girls bought multiple apartments back in Romania, and / or already started clothing shops etc there. I even stayed with one in her pretty nice apartment in Bucharest, and it's much better than my little condo in USA!

[RoyPunter]

Arriving in FRA at 9 am tomorrow and plan to hit Sharks. Don't have a hotel as I will be leaving to Zurich at 5 am next morning.

It looks like Sharks opens only at 4 pm tomorrow.

Is there a good adult activity to do to kill a few hours? I saw some posts that massages are not good in FRA.

Also, is it allowed to keep carry on bag at counter at Sharks reception while I am at the club. Wondering if I should go to train station and leave it there instead.

[Rajat1]

So my annual trip to frankfurt is coming in late Jan. I am very much excited.

Read the below points, does a club / restaurant / street exsist in frankfurt where we can find decent pickups. I am asking this even though I am a frequent visitor to FKK's and RLD. Just that variety is spice of life :P

[ECity045]

If the same club it might have been Whiskeria Estark which is in the bottom of the Hotel Diana Plus. The girls stay upstairs. All fucking onsite and you have to buy a drink upon entry. This club is 9 km per google maps. Maybe you went to a different club??

Yes. This is the club. I don't think one has to buy a drink upon entry. Actually, I didn't buy any. I was told the drinks were rip-offs (9 E for a coke). While the number of attractive girls in this club is somewhat limited, there were a few petite pretty women including two or three from Dominican Republic and I even met one from Argentina although I didn't go to the room with her. Although I thought it was 60E, the girls only asked for 50E, so I paid a 10E tip. It was a few months ago, so perhaps things have evolved? I think there was a towel/ sheet charge, may be that was 10E bringing it to 60E.

It makes it a lot easier to get to this club if one has a car. Also helps go to villaverde looking for the right fish. The funny thing here is, girls will be walking almost naked with no tops and only a thong it the bottom if the weather is not cold.