Frankfurt

[ThePenetrator]

So as everyone knows by now, the official venues of Frankfurt's sex industry, in line with the rest of the country, have shut down. The RLD's brothels have all been shuttered or shut. Most of the girls returned home or went elsewhere, those remaining are staying in small numbers in the actual shut brothels for the time being (allowed by the government to stop them from living in the streets).

This is possibly the RLD's lowest point ever. I decided to take a walk through it nevertheless.

What does remain is the so-called "Strassenstrich", the assembly of groups of streetwalkers that solicit clients and take them back to a hotel room. The RLD has regressed from what it was before to the semi-clandestine state that one is used to finding in other countries.

Whereas before, with all that was available in the RLD, it was not advisable, and even dangerous to go with any of the girls approaching you on the street, this is slightly different now, as I recognised and chatted with at least 3 girls that I knew and used to work in the Laufhuser and are pretty trustworthy. Some have just recently arrived back, hoping for some development and reopening by the end of August (not sure how likely that is), others have been there since it closed in the first place back in March. Others are simply new arrivals looking to make a quick buck with low service..

Wow is it really that bad?

The girls now working the streets must be the desperate crack heads. Some of the girls have come over to the UK.

I fear for Germany, I am meant to visit cologne later in the year, but don't think the FKKs will be open for the rest of the year.

It seems that Frankfurt gets more traffic than Cologne. From your guys opinion, which city is better for mongering, Frankfurt or Cologne?

[Lanthano]

So as everyone knows by now, the official venues of Frankfurt's sex industry, in line with the rest of the country, have shut down. The RLD's brothels have all been shuttered or shut. Most of the girls returned home or went elsewhere, those remaining are staying in small numbers in the actual shut brothels for the time being (allowed by the government to stop them from living in the streets).

This is possibly the RLD's lowest point ever. I decided to take a walk through it nevertheless.

What does remain is the so-called "Strassenstrich", the assembly of groups of streetwalkers that solicit clients and take them back to a hotel room. The RLD has regressed from what it was before to the semi-clandestine state that one is used to finding in other countries.

Whereas before, with all that was available in the RLD, it was not advisable, and even dangerous to go with any of the girls approaching you on the street, this is slightly different now, as I recognised and chatted with at least 3 girls that I knew and used to work in the Laufhuser and are pretty trustworthy. Some have just recently arrived back, hoping for some development and reopening by the end of August (not sure how likely that is), others have been there since it closed in the first place back in March. Others are simply new arrivals looking to make a quick buck with low service.


Either way, the girls hang out along Kaiserstrasse (one street away from the RLD) from the afternoon onwards and charge between 50 and 70 for half an hour, which includes the 20 euro charge for the hotel room. Personally this isn't my thing, but sex always finds away even during corona times.

Other notes on Frankfurt:

Escorts are still working, available on ladies.de where they usually offer 1 hour sessions for about 130 to 150 euros, including coming to your place. Plenty of scam stories, plenty of legit service as well.

So Frankfurt still has stuff available even now.

[Turgid]

Well, for USA people that like escorts in Germany and London, a 3rd option to consider is escorts in Montral Qubec. 240 Canadian dollars per hour.

The local green forum Reviews all the girls so you know exactly what they provide and how they look. Of course, if what you desire is FKK then Germany is a better option. There are more F KK's in Frankfurt than Berlin.

The escort scene in Montral is amazing. Unfortunately, even though the girls are making awesome amounts, the Montral scene has seen a lot of price increases in the past years. If the prices keep increasing who knows if the scene will still be worthwhile 5 years from now.

It's probably because of the negative influence from neighboring Toronto or New YorkEconomies. I went to New York and I was in 1 of those expensive neighborhoods andLittle plastic box filled with grapes cost something ridiculous like US$30.And people were telling me either they pay $3000 a month for rent or consider moving to a more rural setting. That is the housing crisis. Not everything that shines is gold.

Montreal is a very good addition to the discussion. I have asked about Montreal escorts vs London escorts in another thread and I do believe it is about equal both ways.

[PayForIt]

Interesting discussion. Given the current corona / post-corona situation (where the FKKs are not open), do people still think Germany is a great option? When I look around Europe at the moment, the Spanish south coast: Malaga, Marbella with night club scene and low covid rates has popped up as perhaps the best option when FKKs are closed? Switzerland and Austria are competitors for FKK fans perhaps?

Oh, there is a subforum dedicated to comparing different countries and cities:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...961&viewfull=1#post2446961.

I have been on the Costa Del Sol for 3 weeks. All the clubs are open, albeit with some restrictions and a requirement of wearing face masks before going to the room. C19 rates in northern spain have increased but not on the costa del sol. No deaths for two weeks and low case numbers. I cannot compare with Switzerland but the mongering options in Spain are plentiful. Though there is the risk of quarantine when you return.

[Wiild]

Interesting discussion. Given the current corona / post-corona situation (where the FKKs are not open), do people still think Germany is a great option? When I look around Europe at the moment, the Spanish south coast: Malaga, Marbella with night club scene and low covid rates has popped up as perhaps the best option when FKKs are closed? Switzerland and Austria are competitors for FKK fans perhaps?

Oh, there is a subforum dedicated to comparing different countries and cities:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...961&viewfull=1#post2446961.

[Tribute15]

Has anyone on board been to both England and Germany recently? Which is better for escorts?

Germany any day. London is so expensive with limited options and pain in the ass to arrange an appointment. Anyone saying London as the best as definitely not been outside London.

[Member #4665]

I have absolutely no doubt that the German FKK is the best p4p concept in the world. However, in the absence of FKKs I am left with the option of escorts. I have no doubt that escorts are better on the other side of the pond and the reopening of FKKs seem rather iffy. On the occasion that Europe and the UK open up their borders I am trying to decide where to go to partake of my beloved Romanians working in the escort business. Thus far it seems 2 to 1 in favor of Germany, however, I suspect England will open up its borders before Germany.

Well, for USA people that like escorts in Germany and London, a 3rd option to consider is escorts in Montral Qubec. 240 Canadian dollars per hour.

The local green forum Reviews all the girls so you know exactly what they provide and how they look. Of course, if what you desire is FKK then Germany is a better option. There are more F KK's in Frankfurt than Berlin.

The escort scene in Montral is amazing. Unfortunately, even though the girls are making awesome amounts, the Montral scene has seen a lot of price increases in the past years. If the prices keep increasing who knows if the scene will still be worthwhile 5 years from now.

It's probably because of the negative influence from neighboring Toronto or New YorkEconomies. I went to New York and I was in 1 of those expensive neighborhoods andLittle plastic box filled with grapes cost something ridiculous like US$30.And people were telling me either they pay $3000 a month for rent or consider moving to a more rural setting. That is the housing crisis. Not everything that shines is gold.

[The Cane]

I appreciate your perspective. Everyone values something different so it's okay to disagree. My point of view is a little bit different. The F KK seems expensive. At the F KK you only get an hour with the girl and you have to pay the entrance. With the escort you can get 2 hours for that kind of money. Plus, if you find the right escort that is concerned with giving a good service and pleasing her customers instead of clock watching. She knows business. I prefer 2 hours with an escort than one hour with the girl at the F KK. I don't really want to drink beer and swim in the swimming pool. I just want spend time with the girl. And plus What do I care if there are 20 naked woman I can't afford more than one because it's so expensive.Maybe it would be better if I were not so broke.

But my experience with escorts has been just too hit and miss. Too much work to find one who will provide the level of service I want, especially CIM and anal. And I don't know where you're from, but here in the States in my town, the top talent wants $400 to $500 per hour, and all covered! I'd rather do an FKK girl for an hour for a sure thing.

[Member #4665]

Yes, but what kind of service are you getting for that 250 euros / hour? And how consistently so? Therein lies the superiority of the German FKK system. You pay that kind of money, and over an hour I can be sure of getting a massage, BBBJ / CIM (may cost a little more with some tutes), some pussy, and a butt fuck. But when you're dealing with escorts, it's all over the place. Or even in Spain where you'd pay that kind of money in the nightclubs. Leave it to the Germans to come up with the most orderly, consistent system of prostitution in the world, and at a price low enough to make it affordable to the masses (that's when you can get rich).

I appreciate your perspective. Everyone values something different so it's okay to disagree. My point of view is a little bit different. The F KK seems expensive. At the F KK you only get an hour with the girl and you have to pay the entrance. With the escort you can get 2 hours for that kind of money. Plus, if you find the right escort that is concerned with giving a good service and pleasing her customers instead of clock watching. She knows business. I prefer 2 hours with an escort than one hour with the girl at the F KK. I don't really want to drink beer and swim in the swimming pool. I just want spend time with the girl. And plus What do I care if there are 20 naked woman I can't afford more than one because it's so expensive.Maybe it would be better if I were not so broke.

[Member #4665]

Yes, but what kind of service are you getting for that 250 euros / hour? And how consistently so? Therein lies the superiority of the German FKK system. You pay that kind of money, and over an hour I can be sure of getting a massage, BBBJ / CIM (may cost a little more with some tutes), some pussy, and a butt fuck. But when you're dealing with escorts, it's all over the place. Or even in Spain where you'd pay that kind of money in the nightclubs. Leave it to the Germans to come up with the most orderly, consistent system of prostitution in the world, and at a price low enough to make it affordable to the masses (that's when you can get rich).

I appreciate your perspective. My point of view is a little bit different. The F KK seems expensive. At the F KK you only get an hour with the girl and you have to pay the entrance. With the escort you can get 2 hours for that kind of money. Plus, if you find the right escort that is concerned with giving a good service and pleasing her customers instead of clock watching. She knows business. I prefer 2 hours with an escort than one hour with the girl at the F KK. I don't really want to drink beer and swim in the swimming pool. I just want spend time with the girl. And plus What do I care if there are 20 naked woman I can't afford more than one because it's so expensive.

[The Cane]

I largely agree, except for one last comment. One of the reasons I go to FKK land is that I love having the ability to see before I buy. So I get to see the girl in the flesh in the club. That is the beauty of FKKs, Spain, Dubai, etc. Escorts are constantly bait and switch. So whilst German FKK model / platform is undoubtedly the best for me, followed by Spanish clubs (though I've never been to S America so cannot put Brazil, Argentina or Columbia in my own list), in the UK, if you want choice of escorts from pictures on a website, taking the chance of bait and switch, London wins. If you want to select from a line up, Manchester wins all day long (and the LE are entirely happy with the establishments whilst they operate strict no drugs policies).

I'm onboard 100% with this. I never found the escort world to be very gratifying. If I had not discovered the world's top mongering destinations, I'm certain I never would have become a pro monger. Germany is great, and the only place I like better is Brazil. Yes, the German scene is a bit more organized (Brazil isn't bad), but for me nobody does sex better than a Brazilian woman. Nobody! Especially when it comes to anal sex wink, wink!

[PayForIt]

That is a no brainier. Germany all the way! For one there are way more girls in Germany, and they bring a certain style and finesse, I suspect because they can work in a more relaxed environment.

Why do you think British men like myself travel to FKK land multiple times a year? It not for the beer, or weather.

In conclusion I would rate Germany as one of the top destinations for pay for play in the world. Clean, safe and modern. I would rate London as one of the top destinations for high end incall escorts. The options for the rest of the UK is just OK.

I largely agree, except for one last comment. One of the reasons I go to FKK land is that I love having the ability to see before I buy. So I get to see the girl in the flesh in the club. That is the beauty of FKKs, Spain, Dubai, etc. Escorts are constantly bait and switch. If you want to select from a line up London is most definitely NOT the place to monger in the UK. There are very few, if any locations where you can select from 2 or 3 girls in London. LE shut them down. In Manchester you would have at least 5 venues where you can select from 5+ girls. Rarely many more, save for Diamond Dolz. Where you might get 8/9 to choose from. Most are EE girls in Manchester. Very few true latinas thought the receptionists will tell you the girls are from all over the world. But at least you get real choice and you get to see the options. There are many who post good reports of certain agencies in London, and I don't doubt the accuracy of those reports. But you are still very much in the position of having to hope that the girl you see on that website looks like those photos. Not just the face (some post recent selfies) but the body. I have had far too many bad experiences where the girl turns up, or you arrive at her place, and she is a pale shadow of what was advertised. For me. A passion killer.

So whilst German FKK model / platform is undoubtedly the best for me, followed by Spanish clubs (though I've never been to S America so cannot put Brazil, Argentina or Columbia in my own list), in the UK, if you want choice of escorts from pictures on a website, taking the chance of bait and switch, London wins. If you want to select from a line up, Manchester wins all day long (and the LE are entirely happy with the establishments whilst they operate strict no drugs policies).

[Wiild]

Well, I too think the top German FKKs are best in Europe, but I understood the question as: compare the non FKK escort scene. It could be that FKKs remain closed for a while, and people like Turgid are left to consider UK. Then London could be OK. For London you can do your research on the internet easily, check the main escort sites and check out pictures, services and prices. You quickly can get a feeling if it is a destination that is for you.

Yes, but what kind of service are you getting for that 250 euros / hour? And how consistently so? Therein lies the superiority of the German FKK system. You pay that kind of money, and over an hour I can be sure of getting a massage, BBBJ / CIM (may cost a little more with some tutes), some pussy, and a butt fuck. But when you're dealing with escorts, it's all over the place. Or even in Spain where you'd pay that kind of money in the nightclubs. Leave it to the Germans to come up with the most orderly, consistent system of prostitution in the world, and at a price low enough to make it affordable to the masses (that's when you can get rich).

[Alessandro527]

Germany for all range escorts, England (at least London) for high end escorts. You have more choices in Germany but it is easier to find a good stunner in London.

[Turgid]

I have absolutely no doubt that the German FKK is the best p4p concept in the world. However, in the absence of FKKs I am left with the option of escorts. I have no doubt that escorts are better on the other side of the pond and the reopening of FKKs seem rather iffy. On the occasion that Europe and the UK open up their borders I am trying to decide where to go to partake of my beloved Romanians working in the escort business. Thus far it seems 2 to 1 in favor of Germany, however, I suspect England will open up its borders before Germany.