Frankfurt

[Saurus]

FWIW, whenever I'm in town I make a point to go up a few floors up E43 to visit Natalia, 20 ish Polish girl. Definitely lots of upcharging for anything but basic service but IMO she's hot enough to be worth it.

[Optimist]

We are talking about different houses. I always had good luck in T34, but of course my experience is not as upto date as yours.

As you say, some places pose a greater challenge, but still offer great possibilities. E43 for me has been most challenging. As has T32, which has also high rewards: it is one of the busiest houses with loads of young men in the nights so the girls may be tempted to try their luck a bit more than some other houses. But you had success there and there are some good lookers there. Your target would fit in well there lol

[Kosher Kowboy]

KK. The house where it is harder to find good service, Yes, you mean Crazy Sexy, Elbestrasse 43 to 51 if I remember right. Leierkasten. This house has always had a bit of a reputation for scamming and overcharging: but still worth checking out as you say.

In terms of scamming, overcharging I would put Crazy Sexy at the top, with T32 second. But neither should be avoided: your reports show this. Generally in rld there are plenty of good sessions.

I think I am referring to T34 directly across from T27 that has the huge red banner. The giant banner I think is red and the writing is big white block letters. I think this is a website for it. That is the house I went to looking for 'only you know' who , , and in said hunt I found several hot girls. I think this is the URL.

https://www.roteshaus.com/

Based on combining our posts are T34 and E43-51 the places to avoid or better said the places that provide a greater challenge?

[Optimist]

KK. The house where it is harder to find good service, Yes, you mean Crazy Sexy, Elbestrasse 43 to 51 if I remember right. Leierkasten. This house has always had a bit of a reputation for scamming and overcharging: but still worth checking out as you say.

In terms of scamming, overcharging I would put Crazy Sexy at the top, with T32 second. But neither should be avoided: your reports show this. Generally in rld there are plenty of good sessions.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Thanks gentlemen for the timely reply with good and useful intel, I'm probably going to try again before I leave. Referring to Jako's map, I think she was in T32 room 14 and it pissed me off when I asked for a position change and she said no, but offered a HJ. I was like, "I can do that myself" got dressed and split. Context here is that I consider myself seasoned at the game and I thank you all for the knowledge you share here. If I make it back to the RLD I'll post my findings and happy hunting gents.

Thanks, probably was 14 I had my numbers screwed up, 13 is Elena's room and she has dark hair, screwed up the color in my prior post. I will avoid 14 now although might ' interview' her anyway for shits and giggles. I think some others may have had issues with Elena but for me room 13 has some great memories. Elena was a few more Euros than some others in the T32 House but she has tons of patience, multiple positions no complaining, DATY not an issue and complete GFE and a wonderful attitude. I saw her on the advise of a friend as well as a second Dietzenbach regular who sees her too, several times; for the 50 e plus the 20 e tip for being extra naughty one of my favorites in the house given the lack of rushing and great attitude. Her 50 is close to 30 minutes all inclusive

Good luck next time, give it a shot. Elena at 20/30 e service I have no clue about but for us ' Gypsy Lovers' she is a winner!

So far I haven't had any good RLD expereinces, but still I would like to try some more. Are there any recommended house numbers / girls numbers? From browsing the last few pages I see only recommendation for E45, the 4th floor. In general, I am not looking for AO, or any extras, just the closest you could get to GFE for not more than 50 E.

From reading the German boards and from experience walking stairs I would say just about any house (including the AO Houses of T32 and reality now appears E44 is also full of AO on every floor too a confirmation has been made in addition to my own, I think I have found it on 3 floors now myself) that you can easily find your GFE for 50 if you have patience and work your magic in just about every house. I think the only one (s) that might be tougher or present more of a challenge are that Rot Haus across from T27 (good deals in there for GFE BTW at your price point) and either Crazysex or some name like that, those latter two houses IMO have some stunners in them but a tad more attitude and more Euros required but like any place here talent is in every house, even the ' Palace and Mainhatten' of the RLD. Good luck, all up to the monger to make it happen. If you got what it takes to negotiate a 50 Euro note should find one good service in the RLD if not time it is time to go back to Mongering 101 class

This RLD is very user friendly and great for a beginner IMO relative to the AMS RLD and some other ones, these girls are nice girls, will negotiate and if at or over the 30 Euro mark only a bonehead in my opinion will fail in his hunt. My challenge for myself is to find naughty Gypsy service in the Mainhatten / Palace of the RLD; only takes one to bend and cave in

[TomRifle]

So far I haven't had any good RLD expereinces, but still I would like to try some more. Are there any recommended house numbers / girls numbers? From browsing the last few pages I see only recommendation for E45, the 4th floor. In general, I am not looking for AO, or any extras, just the closest you could get to GFE for not more than 50 E.

[Stlsportsfan]

Place takes a little work, sorry you had a bad first experience. Bored and disinterested I can understand, like the Gypsies they have to fuck guys like me

Curious if you remember who, as you come in the door you climb up stairs to the first floor of rooms; technically the second floor although the door numbers are in the teens. Do you mean you went up the stairs to the first set of rooms and saw the very first girl right in front of you? That would be door 13 ? The blonde haired girl?

Paying upfront is normal there but once they have seen you prior often they don't ask although I usually hand it to them. It appears she used a rubber so guessing the 50 wasn't for AO (the going AO rate usually) so what exactly did you 'contract' with her for? Sounds like a hustler, maybe if you do try a next time will be a better result. There are some good ones in there..

Thanks gentlemen for the timely reply with good and useful intel, I'm probably going to try again before I leave. Referring to Jako's map, I think she was in T32 room 14 and it pissed me off when I asked for a position change and she said no, but offered a HJ. I was like, "I can do that myself" got dressed and split. Context here is that I consider myself seasoned at the game and I thank you all for the knowledge you share here. If I make it back to the RLD I'll post my findings and happy hunting gents.

[Optimist]

A brilliant summary by KK. I could have written it myself (I promise btw that I am not KKs second handle). KK, your findings about business in FKK and the rld echoes my suspicions. As you say, markets are not static and the restrictions and upselling in fkks may be starting to bite some FKK girls in the butt.

I have been surprised on my all too rare recent trips to come across long time German club visitors who tell me (often at length) that they are becoming much more choosy about which clubs they visit, avoiding ones with too much restricted service / overcharging. More than once I have come across familiar regular club visitors in some unexpected places, changing their habits. Only anecdotal, but there it is, for what it is worth.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Lanthano makes a passing point elsewhere about the difference between the run of the mill brothel (like the rld is a giant version of) and the FKK model. The difference between the two is narrowing and to my mind this makes the rld a more viable option. Prices are low and often for non GFE, whereas in FKK guys are being quoted high prices, often for non GFE experience.

Great points, Lanthano and I (when bored) often WhatsApp about the ongoings locally and although we seek different services in the RLD it offers us both what we like but takes time and cross referencing other sites local to the scene can vastly help as well as making contacts who go. For me the few Dietz regulars I have met who go to the RLD (and I see more each trip roaming around) have been of great help. One found 'a poorly behaved' one in M44 recently. I agree Optimist on the narrowing of services and if one is in the RLD hunting well and willing to pay 50-100 Euros + (with or without AO) one can really find a great session especially for 100 Euro. I know of a guy who spends 100 e on some girls and gets a full hour of ' everything' sometimes AO included; take that 100 e to ' some FKK clubs' and you are looking at a 30 min BBBJ session or an hour in a Sharks type place but with perhaps some limitations on service and IMO once in the room with an RLD girl no upselling bullshit.

No proof as I have never been to World to know but I met a girl who said she used to work at World as did a friend of mine (different girl) and both said they make more in the RLD than they did at World and many guys walking thru the RLD are fed up with the FKK girls in certain not all clubs. If one follows the traffic and post counts on local boards an easy trend can be noticed that the RLD threads are moving at a faster clip than just about all FKKs which have all about slowed down. Guys are even complaining about service at Day Care and except for weekends the girls complain of much fewer men.

As I have started visiting the RLD a few months ago I am noticing a higher percentage of doors occupied and men walking around than before and at the same time many ' verbal complaints' in person and ' in posts' as well about many fed up with some of the BS in some clubs. I constantly hear from men and even girls ' no men in the clubs' especially mid week; IMHO and I could be wrong I think this upselling and raised prices is finally biting these girls as a whole in the butt. Mongering like financial markets are cyclical, I think in time we may see the shoe back on the other foot; never does this game move in one direction or the other; it is always shifting be it in a short time or over a period of time and I think this ' taking advantage of the new law' the last 16 months is finally starting to backfire on many girls. Sucks for them. We control their paychecks not them and I think some are starting to realize this.

RLD is what you make of it, not for the beginner, nor are FKKs. Happy hunting to all. Do what works for you. Lanthano mentioned to me he thinks some of the mainstreams are also narrowing (he can inject his opinion himself better than I) but in a nutshell he sees a narrowing between Oase / Sharks vs Mainahtten / Palace as each month more greed and reduced services for the 50 seem to be in play at the former two. This is one reason months ago I started pounding the pavement at Mainhatten and now deals are popping up there for me and increased services etc. The writing has been on the wall for quite some time so I started working on the red toweled girls and doing a 50/50 mix of repeats with new girls and now pit them up against each other and may the girl who gives up the most for the least win

The RLD is great, it really can complement your other clubs quite well and when I run the math of total spent on trips the RLD along with Dietz can greatly offset FKK prices.

My only regret was waiting almost three years to start hitting the RLD!!

[Optimist]

Stlsportsfan. I echo what KK says. The rld experience takes a bit of time to get ones head round. I have been going (on and off) for fifteen years and to start with found it hard to choose good sessions. As time went on my negotiating skills improved, as did my ability to sense a ripoff. But bad sessions still cropped up occasionally. So, if you are in the area again, don't write it off completely. I have had cheap sessions there which far surpassed 95% of fkk sessions

KK and Lanthano have done great reports, but not everybody can always do as well as they do. Remember their success is the product of persistence, skill, and a lot of research, and effort to secure information from other guys. Respect to them for that.

Lanthano makes a passing point elsewhere about the difference between the run of the mill brothel (like the rld is a giant version of) and the FKK model. The difference between the two is narrowing and to my mind this makes the rld a more viable option. Prices are low and often for non GFE, whereas in FKK guys are being quoted high prices, often for non GFE experience.

[Kosher Kowboy]

After reading and doing my homework here, ventured out into the RLD to T32 "AO" and maybe it's just me, but it wasn't much fun, it was rather depressing. Walked the stairs and started at the top and worked my way down, lots of closed doors or bored disinterested looking ladies. I took a chance with a Romanian girl on the first floor as you come in the door and long story short. I quickly got dressed and left. Only missionary or doggie, that might work for some but I'm a big guy and she was small woman. Asked her to get on top, nope. She asked for 50 E upfront, maybe I've been spoiled buy US GFE experiences, but that whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth for AO house and the RLD in general. I normally like to feel some "warmth" from my chosen partner even if it's faked, but this was slap on the rubber, spit in her hand, bend over, turn around and "ficht" I guess you get what you pay for, I'll try an FKK or a pro next time. RLD was a depressing and disappointing experience. Again YMMV, it's not for me, I've found you get what you pay for in life and to buy once and cry once.

Place takes a little work, sorry you had a bad first experience. Bored and disinterested I can understand, like the Gypsies they have to fuck guys like me

Curious if you remember who, as you come in the door you climb up stairs to the first floor of rooms; technically the second floor although the door numbers are in the teens. Do you mean you went up the stairs to the first set of rooms and saw the very first girl right in front of you? That would be door 13 ? The blonde haired girl?

Paying upfront is normal there but once they have seen you prior often they don't ask although I usually hand it to them. It appears she used a rubber so guessing the 50 wasn't for AO (the going AO rate usually) so what exactly did you 'contract' with her for? Sounds like a hustler, maybe if you do try a next time will be a better result. There are some good ones in there..

[Stlsportsfan]

After reading and doing my homework here, ventured out into the RLD to T32 "AO" and maybe it's just me, but it wasn't much fun, it was rather depressing. Walked the stairs and started at the top and worked my way down, lots of closed doors or bored disinterested looking ladies. I took a chance with a Romanian girl on the first floor as you come in the door and long story short. I quickly got dressed and left. Only missionary or doggie, that might work for some but I'm a big guy and she was small woman. Asked her to get on top, nope. She asked for 50 E upfront, maybe I've been spoiled buy US GFE experiences, but that whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth for AO house and the RLD in general. I normally like to feel some "warmth" from my chosen partner even if it's faked, but this was slap on the rubber, spit in her hand, bend over, turn around and "ficht" I guess you get what you pay for, I'll try an FKK or a pro next time. RLD was a depressing and disappointing experience. Again YMMV, it's not for me, I've found you get what you pay for in life and to buy once and cry once.

[Lanthano]

Woke up with morning wood after partying all night.

Around 11 am walked down to the RLD. At E44, Zi 45, I resessioned with Anastasia, a Bulgarian woman in her late 20's who is my type: friendly, slim, strong body and self-confident in her skills. Face is a matter of taste.

A well worth it, good flowing organic service: short chat, took off her clothes and lay on top of me, rubbing her entire body up and close against mine, pulling my penis close and rubbing it down against her lower body getting it hard in no time. Continued with a good BJ before I took her in missionary and then finally finishing in doggie style. Clearly I was really up for it and I gave her a very good pounding in both positions. A very good session with a woman that knows what she's doing, leaving me fully relaxed both in and outside the room.

Paid after rather than before (a sign that they know you already) and no pressure for time with her.

A great start to the day, for the usual bargain RLD price.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Well, after many sessions with my favourite RLD girl, it seems that I have either overstayed my welcome or we may we have grown apart.

Love the RLD but again, so far for me, booking extras just isn't worth it.

I have been in the same boat, perhaps maybe don't ' divorce' her just yet. In these situations I ' put them on probation' for improper behavior and I have found in time once you take them off probation their behavior not only returns to normal but exceeds the original service. This was the case with Domenica and Patricia at Sharks as well as a few others elsewhere. In Mainhatten my very first visit I saw a girl, going to withhold name here. She clipped me for a 10e tip. I saw her three more times and the 30 min were more like 15-20. I got sick of the tip requests as I got a little more seasoned and stopped seeing her. She has come and gone from Mainhatten a few times. Ironically she is back now but I had no time for her, she is in que. Anyway she got put on probation for tip requests. One year later I finally wanted her and I pointed at her.. Shocked she walked over pleased I finally wanted her again. I asked her if she was going to ask for a tip or not. Silence/shock hit her, I think she realized that 60-80e she squeezed out of me cost her tons of sessions. She replied ' no' and from that day on her service has been great and the 15-20 minutes became 30. More importantly, she ' learned her lessons' and has not once asked for a tip. Moral of the story is sometimes it is best to not can these girls simply punish them especially as in your case here if you invested 8-9 sessions the good is potentially worth keeping, not losing. IMHO. Good luck with her, don't let her go. Just ' educate' her.

But we all must handle our Queens and wives as we see fit, luckily you live there and can play your cards as often as you like. I am sure you will find a new one but if you did this one 8 or 9 times already just ' ignore' her for some time perhaps even do some others on her floor to ' remind' her she behaved poorly; IMO she will come around

Either way not like you need lessons, enjoy your playground. My playground is a fucking pig pen called Texas...

[Lanthano]

Well, after many sessions with my favourite RLD girl, it seems that I have either overstayed my welcome or we may we have grown apart.

A session a few days ago, started with me booking extras beyond the standard price (DFK). Whilst well provided, for the first time, she complained about time and asked for an extra 10 euros for the extra 3-5 minutes needed. Most expensive session in the RLD so far at 50 euros total including DFK, 30 minutes. Good service though as usual, but the time pressure ruins it for me, especially after over 8 sessions together.

20 euro standard + 30 euro divorce settlement.

Love the RLD but again, so far for me, booking extras just isn't worth it.