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  1. #3880
    Some small corrections, and additional info.

    Regarding Partytreffs / Pauschalclubs, the defining aspect is a single flat rate fee paid at the door. A non-defining characteristic is that the women are often less attractive than might be found at a mainstream FKK or even the RTC Clubs. This kind of club was essentially banned by the "new" (July 2017) law, but clever club owners are finding workarounds.

    Regarding RTC Clubs including Dietzenbach, the defining aspect is more the ready availability of BBBJ and BBFS (aka the German acronym "AO") although the somewhat lower prices are also a commonality. The new law supposedly bans BB activity, but in practice it's mostly still available in the same places as before. (Other than sex in "public" areas. That has mostly stopped.).

    As a general rule the youth and attractiveness of the women working is highest at the high end FKKs (5-8. 5), somewhat average at lower end FKKs and the RTCs (4-7), and below average at partytreffs (3-5. 5). There are, of course, many exceptions to this.

    Regarding Freude 39 and Dietzenbach, both are larger than the typical RTC, but F39 is both larger and nicer than Dietzenbach. You are more likely, however, to encounter a non-BB girl at F39 than Dietzenbach. (That's good or bad depending on personal preference.).

    Here is the list of known RTC clubs I posted elsewhere the other day, with a couple suggested changes shown here:

    Grimberg Sauna. Grimbergstrae 12,45889 Gelsenkirchen, Germany.

    Sauna Club Arabella. Lohrheidestrae 63,44866 Bochum, Germany.

    FKK 40 aka Saunaclub Dietzenbach. Voltastrae 4, 63128 Dietzenbach, Germany.

    FKK Villa Venus. Konrad-Adenauer-Ring 17,47167 Duisburg-Neumhl, Germany.

    FKK Luderland. Porschestrae 9, 51381 Leverkusen, Germany.

    Club LaLuna. Kautzstrae 9, 47441 Moers, Germany.

    FKK Arabella. Lohrheidestrae 63,44866 Bochum, Germany.

    FKK Freude-39. Freudenbergstrae 39,44809 Bochum, Germany.

    FKK Verena. Kressenweg 6, 44379 Dortmund, Germany.

    Villa Romantic. Blitzkuhlenstrae 109,45659 Recklinghausen, Germany.

    (FKK Annabella appears to be closed. The closest alternative is FKK Luderland above. Annabella was Reisertstrae 20,53773 Hennef (Sieg), Germany.).

  2. #3879
    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyH  [View Original Post]
    Thanks a lot SidneyAU, I just did it! And it was a great experience.

    Stayed in Clarion Collection Hotel Frankfurt Central Station, the other weekend and I planned for a date with Clara eurogirlsescort, since her long curly blond hair and the prospect of a kind of "girl next door type" turned me on.
    If you like her you might like Julia from the same website she is cute and has a sweet tasting pussy. I contacted her yesterday after I called 2 escort agencies in the area and they both were funny-unfriendly. One of them said don't speak English but went on to talk with me and even asking questions in English LOL.

  3. #3878

    Dietz = RTC

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Red Carpet Clubs. Plenty of those up in NRW. No personal experience, but I would think it is similar to Dietz (Hopefully someone else is chiming in to give you better details.
    Yeah, pretty much the same. Dietz may be a bit larger than most of the RTCs up in NRW, except maybe Freude 39, which is comparable in size.

    Small, cheap clubs. Dingy red carpets. Bad lighting. Average looking girls, but every now and then you'll find some lookers. "Extra" services available, if not standard.

  4. #3877
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    I would agree that the FKKs are the peak experience here, especially given that they do not exist anywhere else. You mentioned a total number of 11. Would you be so kind as to PM me the full list of them? I currently can count maybe 6 or 7.
    Sharks.
    Oase.
    World.
    Palace.
    Mainhattan.

    Dietzenbach.

    Atlanta.
    Rom.
    Bahama Club.
    Night & Day.
    5th Element.

    The first five clubs are known as The Big Five or MegaClubs because of the size. Thus Frankfurt's major p4 p tourist attraction. Dietz is as you have learnt "something else" (budget place). The last five are smaller clubs.

    Normally I would recommend the 2- 3 first clubs (Sharks / Oase, and perhaps World) to firsttimers to Frankfurt. That's more than enough as a start, and you can always go back numerous times. But you seem to be the adventerous kind wanting to check out everything for yourself, which I think is a good thing (if time and money permit).

    The upselling at central clubs Palace and Mainhattan are high and thus not usually recommended unless you have money to waste and/or know how to handle extreme upselling situations. Facilities are good though. Dietz caters for the very budget conscious. The smaller clubs are off the beaten track with limited lineup, food and facilities and thus normally ignored. But it does not mean that a good time cannot be had (look to Tedesco / Bahama Club). Mia at Atlanta is a treat!

    Are your logistics limited to Frankfurt / Hessen? If not, one would think you would be better off by checking out the saunaclubs of NRW in stead of the smaller clubs in Hessen. But that is entirely up to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    I did want to perhaps try out a proper partytreff / pauschalklub that is worth going to. I've heard mostly bad things about Treff 180, but rumours of better ones. What is an RTC?
    Red Carpet Clubs. Plenty of those up in NRW. No personal experience, but I would think it is similar to Dietz (??). Hopefully someone else is chiming in to give you better details.

  5. #3876
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    First of all; thanks a bunch for paying back to the forum with reports.

    I think it's difficult to suggest anything unless you tell us what you enjoyed most: Where would you revisit if you had a chance?

    To me the main reason to revisit Frankfurt would be the FKK scene. Frankfurt also have a RLD, brothel, escort and massage parlour scene, but it's just not my thing. I am glad you did the Sharks / Oase thing as this is arguably the best that Frankfurt can offer at the moment (price / looks / performance). Many gents do nothing else when in Frankfurt. You also did Bahama which means you now also have experience with one of the smaller out of the beaten track clubs, and Dietz, which is a different segment and serves a different purpose. You can go back to any of these clubs to relive what you enjoyed most. Or; explore FKK clubs not yet visited (big or small, there are 11 in total in Frankfurt alone). Even to those clubs that have a bad rep: You need to know firsthand what the fuss is all about. And guys are different: Maybe your style in the end suits better at other clubs than Sharks / Oase? Only one way to find out, and that is to go visit and find out yourself.

    And then you have the whole of NRW to explore with its sauna clubs, partytreff, gangbangs, swinger clubs, RTC and RLD. With umlimited resources (time and money) there is a whole lot to be experienced. If resources are limited, we need to know more about your preferences.
    Thanks a lot for the reply and recognition. Writing about the experiences has been a pleasure. I would agree that the FKKs are the peak experience here, especially given that they do not exist anywhere else.

    The RLD however has a number of hidden gems in it, which I hope I've brought out too, even if it isn't everyone's thing.

    I did enjoy the small ones off the beaten track as well, smaller cheaper ones to hang around in.

    You mentioned a total number of 11. Would you be so kind as to PM me the full list of them? I currently can count maybe 6 or 7. Yes, that's exactly my plan.

    I did want to perhaps try out a proper partytreff / pauschalklub that is worth going to. I've heard mostly bad things about Treff 180, but rumours of better ones. What is an RTC?

  6. #3875
    Quote Originally Posted by SidneyAU  [View Original Post]
    - the other experience was; spent 2 hours with Clara from eurogirlsescort. She looks great! Very sweet and positive girl, but even more positive is her GFE services.

    During the foreplay she became hot and was very wet which resulted in multiple orgasm from her side while touching and rubbing her body. Nice finish with intercourse. Damage 360 euro for 2 hours.

    Conclusion:

    Great experience of sweet GFE and I think considering ALL factors, that she may have been the very best of the trip. I and considered proposing marriage! LOL!

    Highly recommend.
    Thanks a lot SidneyAU, I just did it! And it was a great experience.

    Stayed in Clarion Collection Hotel Frankfurt Central Station, the other weekend and I planned for a date with Clara eurogirlsescort, since her long curly blond hair and the prospect of a kind of "girl next door type" turned me on. So we started to undress slowly. She was now very eager to get some dick while I was standing in front of her. We moved onto the bed into various positions, then I finished her from the behind. Afterwards she gave me some massage, but ended up fingering her for a while. Since the initially agreed 2 hrs came to an end we got back into action, which then ended with a ride on various positions, places in the room and the fuck was excellent. I'll certainly be back for more!

    I also visited Japan China Girls to have a fun with Asian lady as many members reported in this forum. I picked Ivy. She is a pretty girl with a nice body not much English. Despite the massage, her nice tits and the BJ the session was average. Maybe because it was a late session and she was obviously tired. I doubt that she is really from Hong Kong. I planned to try some of these ladies again at other times.

  7. #3874
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    Frankfurt is great and I've enjoyed seeing this other side of it. Please feel free to let me know about things I may have missed and other clubs / spots that are worth a look.
    First of all; thanks a bunch for paying back to the forum with reports.

    I think it's difficult to suggest anything unless you tell us what you enjoyed most: Where would you revisit if you had a chance?

    To me the main reason to revisit Frankfurt would be the FKK scene. Frankfurt also have a RLD, brothel, escort and massage parlour scene, but it's just not my thing. I am glad you did the Sharks / Oase thing as this is arguably the best that Frankfurt can offer at the moment (price / looks / performance). Many gents do nothing else when in Frankfurt. You also did Bahama which means you now also have experience with one of the smaller out of the beaten track clubs, and Dietz, which is a different segment and serves a different purpose. You can go back to any of these clubs to relive what you enjoyed most. Or; explore FKK clubs not yet visited (big or small, there are 11 in total in Frankfurt alone). Even to those clubs that have a bad rep: You need to know firsthand what the fuss is all about. And guys are different: Maybe your style in the end suits better at other clubs than Sharks / Oase? Only one way to find out, and that is to go visit and find out yourself.

    And then you have the whole of NRW to explore with its sauna clubs, partytreff, gangbangs, swinger clubs, RTC and RLD. With umlimited resources (time and money) there is a whole lot to be experienced. If resources are limited, we need to know more about your preferences.

  8. #3873

    RLD (3rd time this week)

    Stopped by the RLD again (I hope I'm not falling into an addiction).

    Hung around going up and down the stairs, taking note of some things. So far my impression is that Taunusstrasse has most of the good stuff.

    20€ gypsy girls are spread across in several places. (To be honest, I would top up the extra 5 for good service, hate me if you want).

    Finally I opted for a session with a blonde girl 20 year old Polish girl (rare in these parts) for 25 that I had spied I few days ago last time but hadn't gone back to (I made a note where she is). Unfortunately I think the past week and the massive amounts of step climbing tired me out (CBJ, missionary and doggie style but didn't quite finish). She however kept to the service, finally giving me a handjob until ejaculation.

    So notes:

    The RLD provides free exercise for your window shopping trip. However, it might just be better not to go up as many steps as I do, due to my indecision, as its exhausting and the energy might be better used for the sex.

    There are some places with prettier girls and slightly cleaner halls, however upon closer inspection, the girls are upselling in some of them:

    -Rotes Haus: You'll know it when you come across it. It's fairly clean inside, rooms are more spacious, but the girls all ask for 30€ there, but often with odd extra caveats on top: 1 position only, some are only 15 minutes rather than 20 minutes, obviously CBJ, some even aren't even offering sex but just a BJ and touching. Steer clear or at least beware and negociate hard if you must.

    -Crazy Sexy (Yellow complex with the large inside and statues on the main floor): I'm afraid to say that I haven't found good value here yet. Mostly 30€, some go as high as 50€, one woman I saw had a price scale on her door, 50€ for 15 minutes. If someone can let me know otherwise, please do, but I haven't found much in here. Yes, they have a number of Thai girls here.
    Some of the girls here are also a bit aggressive with me getting into a small argument with one for asking a question. I've seen it before as well here... Not worth it.

    -Eros Haus 42 Moselstrasse has a number of the 20€ girls.

    -Eros Centre 32 Taunusstrasse also.

    -47 Taunus: Some good looking girls here, as well as a number of blondes, but most are 30€.

  9. #3872

    Summary of my week in Frankfurt

    Hi all,

    So here's a quick summary with links to my reports over this week where I tread the water of the scene here for the first time:

    FKK Dietzenbach: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post2145408.

    Breite Gasse (other RLD): http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post2145664.

    Bahama Club: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post2146145.

    Bahnhofsviertel (main RLD): 1 http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post2145792.

    Bahnhofsviertel 2 http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post2146391.

    FKK Sharks: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...64#post2147064.

    FKK Oase: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post2148396.

    In short, there is a lot available here. The FKK scene is really large, with outside of the big FKKs, dozens more in Frankfurt's environs to discover. But there is more than that taking into account the numerous escort services, swinger clubs, Laufhaeuser.

    Price of sex can be as low as 20€ to 30€for 20 mins (CBJ and no kissing with basic service) at the RLD, to something more complete at the FKKs (sex spas with all you can eat all you can drink, WGs charging 50€ on average for a 30 min service), to professional escort services (kaufmich, meine perlen). There is a hell of a lot available here in most shapes and sizes (blondes, latinas, blacks, Asians, gypsies.).

    Budgeting for the FKKs, transport, entry and three 30 min sessions: A spell in an FKK will cost you about 230-250€ in the big clubs, slightly less in the smaller ones. This compares favourably with 150 or 200€ an hour escort services, though less favourably if you just want a quickie in the RLD.

    Frankfurt is great and I've enjoyed seeing this other side of it. Please feel free to let me know about things I may have missed and other clubs / spots that are worth a look.

  10. #3871
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanthano  [View Original Post]
    Walking home, kept warm by the orgasm sweat .....
    That's what I dislike going to RLD or apartments in winter time. After the session you've to go outside into the cold. The essential advantage of clubs where I got the possibility to take a shower after the room time and when relaxing and bringing the body back to normal conditions before leaving.

  11. #3870

    RLD virginity lost

    So I woke up on what was supposed to be my take it slow day (heading to Sharks tomorrow), but felt slightly restless and aroused so after a pizza, I headed back to the RLD, barely 20 minutes on foot from where I live. Rather quiet on a Tuesday afternoon, the Laufhaeuser all have girls in.

    I stuck along Taunustrasse checking in to each of them.

    Remarks:

    -Crazy Sexy (yellow sign) is the large spacious inside one with 4 floors, 3 for girls, 4th floor has transsexuals (it's marked and no, I've never been up there). But funnily it was almost deserted at this time with all the doors closed, I saw maybe 4 girls in the entire building, two Thai, 1 pretty one asking for 50 for 20 minutes, and another I can't really recall. Came in to use the bathroom (costs 1 "ob gross oder klein")

    I guess the times just vary, honestly if you have the strength for the stair climbing keep trying till you find what you need.

    -Eros centre (yellow sign) is a actually a set of 4 buildings (two non attached buildings, the one in front, the one behind it. In my experience if there is anything worthwhile there, it's in the front building, the back building has older Latina women who didn't really take my fancy.

    -Saw some lookers in Number 43 (red neon sign saying "43") Mental note: 4th floor.

    Finally in what I think was Eros Centre (red sign), the prices were. Quite low for a lot of the girls at this time. Got quoted 20 from at least 3 of them. To make sure the curse was finally for sure out, I took a nice looking petite Romanian (half-gypsy) girl who provided good service for the price. Covered blowjob again which. To be honest, did the trick just fine. No kamagra needed. Pumped her in two positions before unloading in an unusually strong orgasm; no doubt fueled by her lithe slightly darker body. Loved it, she was very friendly and talkative after (even with the girls, German rather than English gives you an edge). Damage: 25 (Tipped an extra 5, which she appreciated) Where else close by in Europe could you get something like this for so little? Hell, how much does a professional massage even cost?

    Walking home, kept warm by the orgasm sweat, I thought about how easy it's been to just take the presence of the RLD for granted. My thinking is backed up from yesterday: For great service, count on an FKK. However, quickies in the RLD can yield some great surprising results for peanuts. Pot-luck RLD.

    Given that I'm behind the target amount of money I planned on spending this week, I sort of wish I had more orgasms to give at a time...

  12. #3869
    Quote Originally Posted by Jharris  [View Original Post]
    I haven't used Remillion, hoping Dittoow has some details to share. Maja at Kim Escort has been recommended elsewhere on forum, as have some independents if you look through. I've had good sessions with Leyla at Prive and Vanessa at Diva. (Vanessa if you like curvy girls, but Diva lineup has gone downhill in last year.) Prive gets mixed reviews here, depending on the girl. I've had mixed experience with them.
    Thanks for your recommendations. Recently explored the scene in Frankfurt. Frankfurt is a fantastic city for sex.

    - Prive escort service. Wanted to have Layla which has very good comments. Unfortunately busy, so ordered Jana, a petite girl (German and English speaking). Nice body with silicon boobs. Good sex, however she did not want to put the finger into her pussy. Damage for one hour 200 euro.

    Conclusion:

    Would I go again? Probably.

    - the other experience was; spent 2 hours with Clara from eurogirlsescort. She looks great! Very sweet and positive girl, but even more positive is her GFE services.

    During the foreplay she became hot and was very wet which resulted in multiple orgasm from her side while touching and rubbing her body. Nice finish with intercourse. Damage 360 euro for 2 hours.

    Conclusion:

    Great experience of sweet GFE and I think considering ALL factors, that she may have been the very best of the trip. I and considered proposing marriage! LOL!

    Highly recommend.

  13. #3868
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    More fear mongering. In what sense is this true at all?
    No need to worry. The area isn't a positive reputation for Frankfurt welcoming international guests leaving the entrance hall of the central station. But its part of Frankfurt since the 50's last century. And the number of locations didn't reduce in that time. That has nothing to do with the law implemented in July last year.

  14. #3867
    Regardless, after my experience today, I'm wondering whether the RLD is just a quick place to bust a nut for 25-30 rather than a place to expect great service and worth negociating for better.

    Either way, a great place. Better with it than without it.

  15. #3866
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    .Enjoy it while it lasts though. The RLD is not New Law compatible. It is earmarked for destruction.
    More fear mongering. In what sense is this true at all?

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