Frankfurt

[Lexb]

You "tweaked" my curiosity in you last report!

Is there a(or are there) "mini" RLD(s) as an alternative to the Frankfurt Haptbahnhof area?. If so, how does one easily get there and back on the bus, metro, or train?

In other parts of the world there is sometimes a "tourist RLD" and one for "locals".

Advantages of the "tourist RLD" is usually that there are a larger number, younger, more attractive(strickly a subjective opinion, of course!) providers and more English is spoken. Disadvantages are the providers are more expensive and less likely to bargain.

But I am always looking for an alternative if, for no other reason, I am a consumate "sexual explorer" type monger.

As far as accomodations, please note this from a previous report of mine on the Frankfurt-RLD area this link:

http://priceline-europe.com/index.html

Search by the "cheapest room"(system defaults to "most popular").

Thank you!

[Stevenh]

Lexb:

generally, affordable accomodation can be found in IBIS hotels. Check out the accor hotels homepage to find something nearby. I personally like them, as they offer reasonable quality, cleanliness and you can even shut out the light using a blind if you need darkness in the morning hours.

There is one at the Messe, from which you can easily get to the RLD. Other options are Esprix and Motel One. If all else fails you, check the "Garni" type of location instead, which are usually small privately owned locations somewhere between hotel and B&B quality.

Good luck!

@Kiwi 69: Thanks for reporting, glad you found something pleasing! In the depths of Elbestraße there are cuties to be had as well, and you might hit the spot in Taunus 39 as well, this mainly is a latina domain.

Just to add some more info: The Breite Gasse RLD is also worthwhile, sometimes you find real gems there. It is easy to reach from a S-Bahn station (most of the time, though, I prefer the main station area). It sports some little shops of horrors as well with windows-lizards waiting for prey insinde ;-)

[Lexb]

Such good information. I feel like I have already been to the Frankfurt-RLD instead of being my first time when I travel there at the end of this month.

Always thinking. Can any of you intelligent gentlemen pin-point where the "ladyboys", S+M providers, etc. Hang out (Eros Center street #s and floor #s) that would be less than appealing to a straight heterosexual (with minor voyeuristic tendencies)?

Also, any other testimonials for "value for the money" and honest providers along with names, Eros Center street #s and floor/room #s (if any and all are remembered) would be most appreciated. Think of it as an exercise to reveal your fond past experiences of still-practicing "room girls" and put a smile on your face!

Since my time there will be at a premium I would like to avoid "spinning my wheels" and put my limited locating time to good use.

Thank you!

[Kiwi 69]

I have had very good times with Leila at the above address. Excellent BBBJ (will do CIM also), multiple positions and is lots of fun. She is probably mid 30's, great C's, good figure, but not your 40kg spinner type. Have visited her twice now, throughly recommended. I have only visited the RLD on a Sunday evening, so unfortunately have not had the pleasure of checking out the Thai's at Taunusstr 26 as reported in Steven H's post.

There is a cute Thai in Taunusstr 27, Zimmer 31 who is worth a look also. Very cute, great body, good service, BBBJCIM. I found that some of the girls in T 27 would only do CBJ's when enquiring abot services and seemed "standoffish ". There were some interesting looking Thai's in Elbestr 55 but I never "test drove " any models.

[Lexb]

I believe you have aided me "above and beyond" what I could expect.

Also, thank you for the offer of information for an "apartment escort" but I believe I will "stay close to home" as this is my first visit to the Frankfurt-RLD area and I want to explore it fully with my eye to the future to make it my preferred European p4p location.

I usually do not judge an area on the first visit so I will be open minded and I will report my experiences on this thread.

Lastly, if you have read my previous posts, you will see I have bemoaned the fact of the astronomic and relatively recent increase of accomodation pricing in Amsterdam. This really has me upset as I like Amsterdam and prided myself with being as "street smart" about what's going on there as you are for the Frankfurt-RLD.

For my budget, it has become unafordable to lodge there but perhaps to "day trip" in future travels?

Any information in response to my questions from other fellow mongers on the Frankfurt-RLD would also be greatly appreciated!

[Stevenh]

Hi, Lexb:

BBBJ are standard with the majority of Thais and latinas. If they try covered, just remind them what was agreed, and they will oblige. After a while, they offer FS and put the rubber on. This is not so with Laidy, she prefers to take you to the end orally. Bigger boobs you find on the same floor in some places.

The gypsy-floor is the 5th. The numbering scheme you can find easily on the page indicated in my previous post - architecture is different in most Laufhauses, so the first accessible floor is numbered "1".

If you look for ebony meat ("..you never go back...") you will find on the topmost floors of mot LHs something that meets your expectations, but be aware of agressive marketing and low performance, rarely you find good value for money.

The mulatas are a much better deal servicewise.

If you want caucasian, non-latina and non-EE service, good luck, I haven´t been able to find anything in the RLD - but surely in flats, but that will be out of your budget, if I understood your message below right, apart from that it´s a gamble and you have to go to odd places.

If you want, I can recommend you a WG with large boobs and nice performance, but she´s in a flat 1/2 hr from Frankfurt, cost is around 100 Euro. She´s German, from the north of Germany with blond hair.

Good luck!

[Lexb]

Thank you for your report that gives specifics and names names as it is a big help for a Frankfurt-RLD "newbie" monger such as myself who is on a strict budget. I hope the link I posted in my previous report will save you money on accomodations in the future.

As I have stated previously, my needs are basic but I had hoped for BBBJs(hopefully, if I am educated on who/where to go this will be included in the "basic service") and anal(this should cost me how much more?).

Last questions on this subject(and you seem to be able to be specific with addresses, floors, and even specific names so PLEASE CONTINUE in this format:
You mentioned to avoid the "Gypsie" floor of Taunusstrasse 27. Please advise which floor is this so I will avoid it(I assume that they are numbered as in the same manner as I have experienced in Europe in which the "street level" floor is not considered and the floor above it is the the first(1st) floor, correct)?

I have recently developed a taste for large breasted Ebony women(not as an exclusive diet but as very infrequent fantasy diversion). Are they all ripoffs to be avoided or do you know where I can find any that will satisfy me without getting ripped off and/or poor service(bait/switch and with the annoying "upsell")?

I am aware Western European "room girls" consider themselves special and you will experience pissy attitudes/poor performance and will be charged more. I also have been warned away(by other unrelated posts) from Romanian and now you with Bulgarian and Polish women. Do I have any Caucasian options that are not Latinos(which I don't mind for looks and will gladly use if that is all I can trust/afford) and where are they?

Thank you, Stevenh, et. al. for any helpful info on these last questions?

[Stevenh]

So out of a strong necessity-based need for "basic/least expensive sex mongering" without all the frills that I always see my fellow mongers(the much more willing/able to pay for "extras" such as anal, BBBJ, CIM, more than one shot, etc), the Frankfurt RLD seemed to be the "lesser of evils" option.

If on a budget, I recommend you go to Taunusstrasse 27 which at the moment seems to be the place to find exactly what you may wish for.

Avoid the gypsy floor, though, but apart from that you will find a very good selection of WG from Thailand and DR with excellent looks and good value for money.

Prices for regular (covered) action: oral, sex in different positions, in clean environment start at 25 Euros.

Thais in 1st floor are fine, 4th floor latinas recommended.

Laidy (tis is the name ;-)) in room 45 in Taunus 27 is an excellent recommendation if you are into pure BJ. She´s capuccino colored from the dominican republic, has a very sympathetic smile and takes you right to the end but doesn´t swallow. She has an athletic body. She has an excellent technique and can give a good massage after sex as well.

The girls on the same floor (two of them are sisters) are all recommendable and a stable service is guaranteed. All of them offer BBJ and covered sex.

If you are willing to part with 50-80 Euro and need a good massage (pro!) go to Taunusstrasse 26, first entry at left after the plastic door, 2nd floor, Jariya (name is at the door). Very recommended. She has fixed prices and even a price-list on the wall. Her dwelling is a piece of fine art in itself, and if you are willing to part with 80 Euros and have a nice personality, the Thai lady (who has worked in the US and France as well) will give you a real treat. You may have all the toys you might want and do anal, if sympathy allows. She is a bit moody at times, but I like her absolutely. Ageless body and excellent service.

Here´s the dont´s: Don´t go to what´s called Rotes Haus or Leierkasten. If Taunusstrasse 27 fails for you, try Taunusstrasse 32 and 36 instead. Don´t -under all circumstances- try out Germans, they are a nearly 100% sure rip-off. Avoid Bulgarians or polish girls, if possible as it is highly improbable you get good service at once (YMMV). Don´t go in any of the beer joints, they are rip-offs, you´re after the serious business anyways.

Never try ans SWs. They are absolutely 100% junkies and it´s not worth the small change you might save.

Most african WGs are selling agressively but don´t perform well.

Some of the Thais are not what they seem, but "redecorated" ladyboys and are more agressive in negotiations as well. You have a 50% chance of being ripped off or they upsell something they have promised you before as included in the service (but not in the Laufhauses I have recommended).

Don´t believe anybody who is telling you the RLD is dangerous: It´s you who make things go awkward, like fighting with the girls or attempting to punch any guy on the street for no reason. Just move like if you were in Manhattan, careful but not overly concerned. There is nothing to fear if you don´t go looking for it.

If you are a bit lost without a GPS, here is a link that might help you: hXXp://users.dapnet.de/jako/main-lgp.htm.

One last word: If you want to amuse yourself afterwards or before, hit the Chango (end of Münchnerstrasse towards Main Station), it´s a place, where the latin community goes and improve your bachata dance style. You might be able to find some girl willing to spend her life /a night with you there as well. Aroud the corner is a joint for the english-speaking community, which I myself haven´t entered yet, but I hear good things about it.

Hope this helps. Enjoy and report ;-)

[Lexb]

http://priceline-europe.com/index.html

Search by the "cheapest room"(system defaults to "most popular"

If you want your socks to curl just look up LKQ(like kind and quality) rooms in Amsterdam durind the same period(especially near the Centraal Station).

How stupid I am for thinking robbery was against the law!

Now that I have done an invaluable service for you Mr. Ortos, et. al., please be so kind as to advise me on any non-"room girl" entertanment I may partake in(I have voyeuristic interests).

Are there such places in the Frankfurt RLD that offer viewing of live heterosexual sexual activities(as in Amsterdam) or somthing like it?

I don't drink and am not interested in sitting around and having some girl try to rip me off for a 500 euro bottle of champagne for conversation only so these "gip joints" are not an option.

Thank you!

[Ortos]

Once again, my sincere gratitude to one and all for any information shared.

In response to Ortos, not that it makes much of a difference, but my stay in Frankfurt begins on December 26th.

Also, in response to Ortos's comment on the overpriced Hotel Continental, here is my invoice for my five(5) day stay:

26th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 Euros 41.16 USD
27th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
28th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
29th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
30th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
TOTAL: 135.00 Euros 205.81 USD
Deposit: 13.50 20.58
Service Charge: 1.50 2.00

I'd say I "practice what I preach" and I was wondering if this qualifys me to be your travel agent?

I have to hand it to you: You certainly have found unusually cheap prices. Almost unbelievable for a 3 or 4-star hotel located in central FFM! Do tell: which Internet hotel booking site produced those low prices? Is there some kind of outrageous deal going on during these holiday days? I mean I've done a search for hotels during those dates on a pretty reliable hotel bookings site and the cheapest I find is in the 40sEuro for 1-star and 2-star places. 3-star and 4-stars are in the 50s/60sEuro per night. I've never seen prices in the 20sEuro the way you have produced. So bravo, yes I would definitely contract you as my travel agent, at least for hotel booking.

Can you reveal precisely how you got those prices? That would benefit the community at large quite a bit.

Thanks,

Ortos

[Jackyo]

Lastly, something I forgot on the last post, I am somewhat voyeuristic and was wondering about any non-ripoff locations in the Frankfurt RLD that have live sex shows(in Amsterdam they are not really worth it as it is not many more euros to get the "real thing"). I may add that I do not drink.

Now this is more of a challenge: finding a non-ripoff joint there.

The basic problem is not being sucked into one of those hostess bars where some chick will sit with you and start ordering those 300 Euro bottles of champagne.

Resist though you might, a large gorilla will take the money from you if you don't cough it up voluntarily.

It happened to me once when I was young and stupid. It didn't happen to me in FRA but that memory is still very fresh in my mind decades afterwards.

Now its your turn to learn the lesson.

[Lexb]

Once again, my sincere gratitude to one and all for any information shared.

In response to Ortos, not that it makes much of a difference, but my stay in Frankfurt begins on December 26th.

Also, in response to Ortos's comment on the overpriced Hotel Continental, here is my invoice for my five(5) day stay:

26th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 Euros 41.16 USD
27th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
28th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
29th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
30th Dec '07 1 Bed, Private Room (Private Bathroom) 27.00 41.16
TOTAL: 135.00 Euros 205.81 USD
Deposit: 13.50 20.58
Service Charge: 1.50 2.00

I'd say I "practice what I preach" and I was wondering if this qualifys me to be your travel agent?

[Lexb]

I will report on this when I return and hope that the time of the year I am there will work more for me than against me and is my perpetual wishful thinking.

AGAINST ME, per my info-seeking post, under-staffing(i.e."room girl" numbers down as they are visiting back home for the holidays, wherever that may be, trying to explain to family how they can afford rich designer clothes and pocketbooks stuffed with euros on a retail server's income.

IN MY FAVOR, cash flow problems and the willingness to play "Let's Make a Deal" instead of letting me walk. But, being the half-empty person I am, this could be affected by the supply/demand economics equation.

Lastly, something I forgot on the last post, I am somewhat voyeuristic and was wondering about any non-ripoff locations in the Frankfurt RLD that have live sex shows(in Amsterdam they are not really worth it as it is not many more euros to get the "real thing"). I may add that I do not drink.

Thank you!

[Ortos]

I am traveling to Frankfurt(for the first time) between December 26th and December 31st to experience the RLD there. I know this is not the best time for the census of available "room girls" but I have no other option.

I am staying at the Hotel Continental on Baseler Strasse 56 which is near the main train station which, from what I have read on the Germany/Frankfurt thread is where I should be. I booked a hotel in this area for the specific purpose of being a realistic walking distance to the RLD. I am also aware, through ISG postings, of what kind of "room girls"(ethnicity/country of orgin) to approach to lessen my chances to experience the "upsell" hell.

Since I have a limited time here(and I believe December 26th will be a zero-girl availability day and I will use this just to "get my bearings"), could anyone give me information as to the names of the streets where the "room girl" buildings are located and general directions as to where I should walk. Even if you are not familiar with the location of the Hotel Continental, directions from the train station would be helpful as well as a directions program link
that I can use to give myself directions.

Thank you!

P.S. Please do not suggest I visit a Frankfurt FKK as, from what I have read, my complete trip expenses (transportation, accomodations, food, RLD basic sex (4-5 times) costs less than one visit to the Palace, etc.

Good luck in finding what you seek on X-mas day!

Directions from Continental Hotel: Out of hotel entrance turn right and walk straight until you reach Taunnusstrasse, which is opposite the N side of the Hbf, more or less where the McDonalds is. Turn right onto Taunusstr and continue for two blocks. Now you are in the heart of the FFM RLD.

Btw: If you are so strapped for cash and so budget oriented: Why are you staying at the shitty over-priced Continental Hotel? You could get better quality and lower price by staying elsewhere in the area, you know? That might give you more cash to visit a place like Palace where you will absloutely get what you seek, although I don't know about the day 25/12....

Ortos

[Jackyo]

Since I have a limited time here(and I believe December 26th will be a zero-girl availability day and I will use this just to "get my bearings"), could anyone give me information as to the names of the streets where the "room girl" buildings are located and general directions as to where I should walk. Even if you are not familiar with the location of the Hotel Continental, directions from the train station would be helpful as well as a directions program link that I can use to give myself directions.

Thank you!

This is as simple as falling out of bed.

You come out of the Hauptbahnhof and walk in the direction of town. If you turn to the left on those side streets and poke around those buildings you will inevitably find what you are looking for.

There is at least one German language forum dedicated to just the FRA RLD. I can't recall the name of it though. It will have detailed maps, etc..

It seems you've read enough the cautionary notes here on this forum so I won't repeat them. To each his own.

And I can, believe it or not, appreciate why the sleazy and raunchy nature of the FRA RLD might have an appeal of its own. I am a veteran of the good old days of pre-Giuliani Times Square myself.