Frankfurt

[Wiley]

RLDs are not all bad. In fact, I've had only one bad experience to date, out of about 20 visits. The bad experience was due to my own ignorance (I didn't ask about the service first, egg-beater machine, don't touch, except my ass. Hurry up, you have 4 minutes left...).

I can't remember the name of the haus. Sachenhausen side of the river, 6 levels, big plaster ass out front. Sorry, getting ripped off must have wiped my memory.

But I've visited the smaller RLD (not the one near the train station...This one's at the other end of the Zeil, Konstablerwache train exit), and have had experiences from just OK to "How can she just charge just 25 Euro for all that?"

I personally like being able to just walk the halls (and the stairs) and look at faces and bodies...and if I don't find what I'm looking for in that building, I just go outside and step in to the next haus.

Some nights I go to 3 or 4 different buildings (they're all within two blocks) and some nights I see something I like on the first floor of the first place.

The going rate for EVERY woman in this area is 25 euro. (I've never asked how long this will get me, but I've never felt hurried either. Usually I spend 15-25 minutes, but there's no obvious "Let's chat for awhile" atmosphere. Of course the girls like to talk to you while you're outside their door, once you come in, they have half their clothes off before you can get your wallet out.

I've stopped asking the price, and just hand them 30 Euro. I've had a couple try and give me change, but they all seem to appreciate a few extra bucks (and the fact that I''ve taken a shower before showing up), and they just seem more...I don't know, energetic?

I've also tried the FKKs and totally agree with you guys. They're great. Relaxing, unhurried...but I save them for special occaisions.

I can go out to a nice dinner, pay for a taxi ride to the RLD and back, get fucked by two different girls in an hour and still have money left over from what I would spend in an FKK.

If you decide to visit the RLD, go in with your eyes open, ask questions and for God's sake...Be careful out there.

[Jasss]

Correction Mr Peter, I meant Marks, not Franks.

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[Peter]

Jass,

Germany has never used Franks, Switzerland does and France did.

Avoid RLD's, no matter what the prices it is not worth going to. Room rates start at 30¤ for 15 minute Suck and Fuck sessions. But expect to get ripped off.

Go to an FKK!

YB,

Novize is right. These Ladies.de is similar to sexrelax.de in the Düsseldorf/Cologne area, these are normal variety girls working out of apartments. Usually 4-5 girls in an apartment.

The advantage of FKK's is that there are multiple girls at the same place. So if you don't like one you can go to another. The Ladies.de are spread apart all over the place.

Also the quality of girls has little to do with the price. I know one girl who works at Goldentime at the moment. She used ot work at Planet Happy Garden last year. I almost fell in love with her service then, then she disappeared. Now she turns up again and I asked where she was. She had spent almost a year working at one of the highest cost establishments in all of Europe, club aphrodisia in Zurich. There she was charging 600francs (400¤) an hour and standard service for that cost was CBJ. She was popular because she used the German standard of BBBJ, and when she offered CIM for the same price she had some customers who came every day for a month. Herservice there was no better than what she offers in Germany for 50¤ for half an hour and 25¤ each additional half hour.

If you are smart enought to be on thisforum to inform yourself about the possibilities, then do not be so stupid as to ever overspend.

Peter

[Novize]

yangban,

most women you see at ladies.de are no high-class-callgirls.

High-class-callgirls can be found i. e. at www.venusescort.com

The most women advertising at ladies.de don´t deliver anything better (mostly worse) than women in FKK-Clubs. Therefor they charge higher prices. At ladies.de search for Alina in Eppstein. Sh worked in a FKK-Club some years ago. Excellent service. 200 €/hour. Appointment is recommended.

You get the same service at a better price at Palace, Oase or FKK-World.

[Yangban]

I'm not into RLD-type experiences. What I am interested in are some of these high-class call girls that you find on www.ladies.de

Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share in this area? What's the going rate for a date/potential sex with a nice looking model-type?

How about the places where they list a street address and town? Some of these towns are pretty small, unlike Frankfurt. Are they legit? What's the drill--can you just show up unannounced and take your pick? I don't think these are standard FKKs...

I'm new to Europe. I'll report my experiences as they happen, if someone is willing to give me a little insight. Also, I don't speak much German yet.

Thanks, Yangban.

[Jasss]

Could anyone tell me the going rates for the RLD girls as I ain't been to Germany since they were using Franks.

I will be in FRA from 3 Sept to 5 Sept if anyone wants to meet up.

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[DarkHorse2000]

Headed off to Frankfurt in a few weeks. Anyone come across any of the workers in the RDL who swallow? I've had my share of BBJs and CIM there but have yet to find a swallower.

[Euro100]

Jasss,

Sure you get more selection of Latinas in Rio. No question about that. But FKK World has a couple of regular girls from Brazil that are worth a ride. One of them is the legendary Viagra, formerly of Atlantis. She is really into it, likes to give deep (and I mean DEEEEP) BJs, and even can be turned on to some spanking if the mood strikes.

Euro

[Peter]

Jass,

You will find more and Better Latinas in Rio. There are some in FKK's, but not always, and not always top notch. In South america you get the best Latina's. In Germany I would suggest trying the Eastern Europeans and the Turkish and middle eastern girls. Take what the FKK's offer, don't try and force your preferences. It's like an old football saying "Take what the defence gives you"

Peter

[Optimist]

peter

catching up is on the sex side - (but still a long long way behind!). as for british trains - if you like dirt, and being late....

as for "estuary english" (which is similar to my speech) which is now becoming the new standard english - most fkk workers find it much harder to understand me than they do americans that's because we english swallow our words but germans and americans tend to talk more clearly. am i getting off topic?

trying to gt back on topic. we all agree that whatever it is one wants the fkk will provide better than the rld (or even a non-professional unless you want a life partner). if you want to share an fkk worker's life story then that's possible, if you just want halfhour fun then that's the deal as well.

jaass

going down in an fkk is normally part of the service. and i usually rate a girl highly only if she enjoys it. often they will come (no faking) if you choose one of the less busy or "professional" ones. one worker i went with many times came nearly every time. so set your standards high. watch the girls for a while , see who gives good service. there are some latina workers but i don't know who is around now - maybe someone else has detailed info for you

[Jasss]

Plans are made friends have been briefed, FKKs the first stop.

Cheers for your help lads, I'll try it as I'm off to Rio when I return from shaggin in France.

PS. Are there many latina chicks in the FKKs?

Would it be ok to get down on them?

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[Euro100]

Peter,

I have ding-donged several German chicks as well when I caught them on vacation in Mallorca, Rimini, and Bodrum. English chick are no easier.

But it is not the point to compare British and German amateurs. What you get with a pro in an FKK is much more than just availability. It is two things:

1. Service with your needs in mind
2. No complicated relationships: you bang, you pay, you write your report on WSG forum, and then you forget. That is REALLY the point of going to an FKK.

When you get involved with an amateur, then she can become attached, you don't have the cruelty to just chase her away, and the next thing you know you are married - then you find another hot chick - and get hooked on her - divorce - major finacial damage - should have done a few thousend sessions wiht a pro instead ;-)

Let's face it: men and women are wired different. We want to spread ourselves over as many pussies as possible, mark as many fire hydrants as possible. Women want to hold on to the one guy, get pregnant, propagate the species. Evolution is cruel. FKK is the antidote.

Euro

[Peter]

Shiatsu,

On the Public Transit or Sex side?

I have had amazing sessions with British Chicks, but mainly really drunken non pros in Ibiza, Falaraki and Cypress. Your local women are horny and looking to get fucked like no other white women in the world. And some of them are Atomic Kitten HOT!!! Others are pigs like Sugar Babes!

The only thing that is annoying is the accent that all the essex sluts have, and sadly all the sluts speak something very far from Oxford English.

Also 3 posts on the UK vs 110 on Germany, and none on the UK since Christmas doesn't really point to a great improvement.

It is so easy to pull british chicks, there is no need for pro's.

Peter

[Optimist]

Peter

You're so right about the danger of FKK!!!.

I went for the first time two years ago and as a result have gone back to Germany from the UK about 12 times (non-business). Germany is my pleasure mecca. Tribute to Germany - good public transport, friendly to British, high quality public spaces, and FKK. No more RLDs for me.

Mind you - the UK is beginning to catch up.......

[Peter]

Jasss,

The RLD has not changed much in the last 3 years. I thought it was crap then and it remains crap, maybe has fallen 10%.

If you liked it back then maybe it might be dangerous for you to go to an FKK, it might blow you away and might cause you to make unplanned trips to germany.

If you liked the RLD's then your expectations from paid sex must be low. You'll be blown away with what is possible.

Peter