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[Winco]

I now know why Winco is so dismissive of beszamolok and similar Hungarian Websites. It is because they allow us to bypass him as a potential middleman. One of the porn actresses Winco is pimping at a price of 1000 euros for 3 hours is Celine Black. She advertises herself on beszamolok under the name of Barbi. She charges 20, 000 Forints for an hour including all extras. I visited her some time ago, long before Winco offered her services, and I can confirm that she is Celine Black and she offers a true PSE.

Jennifer Morante is another Hungarian porn actress whose services I have availed myself of. This was a couple of years ago, so I have no idea if and where she is working now. At that time she was escorting here in Budapest and charging 30, 000 forints per hour (excluding anal).

So, if anyone still believes a word that Winco writes, then let me just present the following:

- Most porn actresses are not stars and many of them are not beautiful. Just as in the rest of the film industry, make-up and lighting can turn a plain Jane into a celluloid beauty. Winco described Celine Black as a "beautiful Hungarian pornstar". Well, she is Hungarian so he is one-third correct. If he finds her beautiful then good for him. I enjoyed the hour I spent with her, but a beauty she ain't IMHO.

- Winco stated that his services are "exclusive in therms (sic) of the girls who are on offer". He certainly does not offer exclusive access to Celine Black.

- Winco stated abour pornstars: "A price per hour vary, but it's usually about 300 Euro/per hour. But, that's just for normal/vaginal sex. You have to pay extra for cum in mouth, cum in face and especially for anal. " Celine Black is, according to Winco, a pornstar. She charges 73 Euros per hour including come in mouth and anal.

- Regarding beszamolok Winco stated: "I've seen too many times high grades(8, 9 or even 10) for girls/women I wouldn't touch with a stick. " Celine Black aka Barbi has reports of 7 and 10 on beszamolok. Winco has kindly posted a photo of her on this forum. I don't know whether he has touched her with a stick, but he has probably fucked her.

- Just a bit of speculation now, so don't take my word for it. Given that Winco has fucked so many Hungarian porn actresses and has provided us photographic evidence that he knows them, it seems reasonable to conclude that he is a porn actor.

Winco will not reply to this post as he "is not going to waste my time answering the gibberish you wrote. " Because he will no longer be able to defend himself, I have restricted myself to presenting the facts alongside his previous comments, except for my speculation about his employment.

I'm honoured because it's obvious that I'm your idol. You're following ALL my posts with such dedication. What a porn girl do or don't do is completely her own private thing. So, Celine Black can give it away for free if she wants to. I'm NOT controling her or her private life. And to prove to everybody that what you said about me and beszmolok. Hu is not true, I'll tell to EVERYBODY that 3 more Hungarian pornstars were advertising there(on and off) and they are: Janet Joy, Lolly Blond and Kyra Banks. But, they don't do it anymore for some reason. So, you see James, you're wrong(again), but the amount of hate and malice in you is really astonishing. It's a free world and everybody can do what is best for himself, which means everybody is free not to contact me or do otherwise. The question is, why don't you do what you want and stop attacking me? Plus, as a typical conceited prat, you continue to make all kinds of assumptions about me without any knowledge about myself and even more important you've taken right and liberty to speak for everybody at this forum(more than once), using word "we" very often. Who the fuck do you think you are, a master of the universe maybe? I did answer your post and I'm ALWAYS able to defend myself. Anyway, like I said the time will tell(as always). So, be patient old chap and you'll be able to see is what I said was true or not.

And in a words of Derek Trotter(who is affectionately known as Del Boy):

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[Helpmann]

...She retired from porn a couple of years ago but now works as an escort from a very nice apartment on the Pest side in central Budapest. You can find full details, accurate pictures and a description of services she will and won't provide on her web site at http://www.carsoescort.com/. If you can live with these, you should have a good time...

I remember Sophie Angel. She's a hot piece of ass!

-Helpmann

Sophie Angel on IAFD

[El Mujerista]

The discussion with Winco et al over the availability of Hungarian pornstars has been rather entertaiing. If someone is interested in a no-bullshit session with a real (former) Hungarian pornstar, I can recommend Veronica Carso, who I spent a delightful evening with a while back. (While in the business, she was also known as Sophie Angel and a few other noms de porno.)

She retired from porn a couple of years ago but now works as an escort from a very nice apartment on the Pest side in central Budapest. You can find full details, accurate pictures and a description of services she will and won't provide on her web site at http://www.carsoescort.com/. If you can live with these, you should have a good time.

I don't get to Budapest nearly as often as I'd like, but next time I do I hope to see her again. While I understand that posts of this type may be subject to skepticism, please be assured I am simply a satisfied customer and nobody's shill.

Happy Hunting,
EM

[Patranov]

I now know why Winco is so dismissive of beszamolok and similar Hungarian Websites. It is because they allow us to bypass him as a potential middleman. One of the porn actresses Winco is pimping at a price of 1000 euros for 3 hours is Celine Black. She advertises herself on beszamolok under the name of Barbi. She charges 20, 000 Forints for an hour including all extras. I visited her some time ago, long before Winco offered her services, and I can confirm that she is Celine Black and she offers a true PSE.

Jennifer Morante is another Hungarian porn actress whose services I have availed myself of. This was a couple of years ago, so I have no idea if and where she is working now. At that time she was escorting here in Budapest and charging 30, 000 forints per hour (excluding anal).

So, if anyone still believes a word that Winco writes, then let me just present the following:

- Most porn actresses are not stars and many of them are not beautiful. Just as in the rest of the film industry, make-up and lighting can turn a plain Jane into a celluloid beauty. Winco described Celine Black as a "beautiful Hungarian pornstar". Well, she is Hungarian so he is one-third correct. If he finds her beautiful then good for him. I enjoyed the hour I spent with her, but a beauty she ain't IMHO.

- Winco stated that his services are "exclusive in therms (sic) of the girls who are on offer". He certainly does not offer exclusive access to Celine Black.

- Winco stated abour pornstars: "A price per hour vary, but it's usually about 300 Euro/per hour. But, that's just for normal/vaginal sex. You have to pay extra for cum in mouth, cum in face and especially for anal. " Celine Black is, according to Winco, a pornstar. She charges 73 Euros per hour including come in mouth and anal.

- Regarding beszamolok Winco stated: "I've seen too many times high grades(8, 9 or even 10) for girls/women I wouldn't touch with a stick. " Celine Black aka Barbi has reports of 7 and 10 on beszamolok. Winco has kindly posted a photo of her on this forum. I don't know whether he has touched her with a stick, but he has probably fucked her.

- Just a bit of speculation now, so don't take my word for it. Given that Winco has fucked so many Hungarian porn actresses and has provided us photographic evidence that he knows them, it seems reasonable to conclude that he is a porn actor.

Winco will not reply to this post as he "is not going to waste my time answering the gibberish you wrote. " Because he will no longer be able to defend himself, I have restricted myself to presenting the facts alongside his previous comments, except for my speculation about his employment.

James Joyce,

Thank you for your very detailed post.

I have contacted him through the phone number he put op on the forum. I had some contact wit him and it gets me nowhere. I have asked him numerous times for the exact price of his girls... He has never given me a proper quotation.
Telling me to give him proof that I am in Budapest, only than he can give prices.

Maybe I should post the e-mail conversation in the forum to warn others.

This guy is a Sandbagger, and a waste of space on this forum!

P

[James Joyce]

I now know why Winco is so dismissive of beszamolok and similar Hungarian Websites. It is because they allow us to bypass him as a potential middleman. One of the porn actresses Winco is pimping at a price of 1000 euros for 3 hours is Celine Black. She advertises herself on beszamolok under the name of Barbi. She charges 20, 000 Forints for an hour including all extras. I visited her some time ago, long before Winco offered her services, and I can confirm that she is Celine Black and she offers a true PSE.

Jennifer Morante is another Hungarian porn actress whose services I have availed myself of. This was a couple of years ago, so I have no idea if and where she is working now. At that time she was escorting here in Budapest and charging 30, 000 forints per hour (excluding anal).

So, if anyone still believes a word that Winco writes, then let me just present the following:

- Most porn actresses are not stars and many of them are not beautiful. Just as in the rest of the film industry, make-up and lighting can turn a plain Jane into a celluloid beauty. Winco described Celine Black as a "beautiful Hungarian pornstar". Well, she is Hungarian so he is one-third correct. If he finds her beautiful then good for him. I enjoyed the hour I spent with her, but a beauty she ain't IMHO.

- Winco stated that his services are "exclusive in therms (sic) of the girls who are on offer". He certainly does not offer exclusive access to Celine Black.

- Winco stated abour pornstars: "A price per hour vary, but it's usually about 300 Euro/per hour. But, that's just for normal/vaginal sex. You have to pay extra for cum in mouth, cum in face and especially for anal. " Celine Black is, according to Winco, a pornstar. She charges 73 Euros per hour including come in mouth and anal.

- Regarding beszamolok Winco stated: "I've seen too many times high grades(8, 9 or even 10) for girls/women I wouldn't touch with a stick. " Celine Black aka Barbi has reports of 7 and 10 on beszamolok. Winco has kindly posted a photo of her on this forum. I don't know whether he has touched her with a stick, but he has probably fucked her.

- Just a bit of speculation now, so don't take my word for it. Given that Winco has fucked so many Hungarian porn actresses and has provided us photographic evidence that he knows them, it seems reasonable to conclude that he is a porn actor.

Winco will not reply to this post as he "is not going to waste my time answering the gibberish you wrote. " Because he will no longer be able to defend himself, I have restricted myself to presenting the facts alongside his previous comments, except for my speculation about his employment.

[James Joyce]

[QUOTE=Pendraken]I think that in this way this forum is no more usefull. I need to share information with other people, not to read again and again advs or discussion between Winco and James Joyce. I go regularly to Budapest and thanks to this forum I found my way for this splendid city, not wasting a huge amount of money, and having very nice and sexy girls. [Message to Admin deleted]Hi Pendraken,

If you really want to ensure that this forum is useful, then please contribute to it. You wrote that you go regularly to Budapest - please share your experiences with other members.

Thanks.

[Pendraken]

I think that in this way this forum is no more usefull. I need to share information with other people, not to read again and again advs or discussion between Winco and James Joyce. I go regularly to Budapest and thanks to this forum I found my way for this splendid city, not wasting a huge amount of money, and having very nice and sexy girls. [Message to Admin deleted]

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[Winco]

Winco and Thomas Robbins, do us all a favour and stop posting here. We do not want or need your help or advice. I think everyone is of the same opinion. Post your adverts in the classified section or go elsewhere.

Thanks mate, I appreciate it.

[James Joyce]

You DON'T need to explain to me what beszamolok means in Hungarian. Érted? If all what I'm saying about beszamolok. Hu and general situation for a foreigner in Budapest wanting to fuck a beautiful and young girl is NOT TRUE and all what you say about beszamolok. Hu and general situation for a foreigner in Budapest wanting to fuck beautiful and young girl IS TRUE, than how do you explain the fact that people are contacting me and asking for help in meeting beautiful girls problems free? As for reports on beszamolok. Hu, they might be helpful and than again they might be totally worthless. I've seen too many times high grades(8, 9 or even 10) for girls/women I wouldn't touch with a stick. So, I'm still saying and claiminng that beszamolok. Hu can be useful to some foreigners and totally worthless to others. But hey, that's just my two cents.

I do not say, am not saying and have not said (do you know anything about verb tenses in English?) anything about the general situation for a foreigner in Budapest who wants to fuck beautiful and young girls. I do not need to explain the fact you mention, because it is not a demonstrated fact. There is no evidence that anyone has contacted you. Let me make it simpler, so that you can understand - everything you have written could be a lie. Based on your conduct on this forum, including your insults to various posters, I have good reason to believe that you ARE lying, possibly with the intention of defrauding users of this site.

[James Joyce]

Clearly,you have something against me.No problem.That's your right and it's okay with me.I don't have anything against you.I DID mention that I've had experiences with girls who advertise on beszamolok.hu.My first sentence in my previous post was this:"You're forgetting the fact that before I got access to porn girls and before I became experienced enough to easily find beautiful and dependable non porn girls I too had experiences with girls who advertise on beszamolok.hu."

I clearly said had that I I've had experiences with girls who advertise on beszamolok.hu. Can you read and understand English?

Winco, you are claiming to know what I think about you. You do not. I have not stated that I have something against you, so are jumping to conlusions based on no evidence. However, since your last post I do have something against you. You have insulted me, firstly by questionining my understanding of English. I regard a non-native speaker who can barely make himself understood asking such a question of a native speaker to be an insult. Másodszor, az nagyon udvariatlan tégezni egy embert, akit ön nem ismérje. Valoszinuleg, ön se tud írni magyarul.

You DID not mention that you've had experiences with girls who advertise on beszamolok. You stated that I forgot a fact, which I did not. We cannot understand what you are trying to say because you cannot write English to a good level. I can easily demonstrate this:

"many various reasons": many and various are not exact synonyms, but if they were then the use of both would be example of redundancy.

"I'm not compete with anybody": here you should use the present continuous.

"I don't have to think will I fuck them when I want" incorrect work order and punctuation. Using correct grammar and punctuation it should be either: I don't have to think, "Will I fuck them when I want? " or: I don't have to think about whether I will fuck them when I want.

"try they luck in a way that they want. " this is incomprehensible. Either the work order is incorrect or you have subsituted a subjective personal pronoun for a possessive determiner.

[Coupe66]

Winco and Thomas Robbins, do us all a favour and stop posting here. We do not want or need your help or advice. I think everyone is of the same opinion. Post your adverts in the classified section or go elsewhere.

[Winco]

Winco, and what about you:

How James Joyce or anybody else could "forget" something that he did not know about? Can you understand English?

Winco, where does your aggressive tone come from?

You seem to be the best informed, you fuck the pornstars, you even know what the guys on the other sites are chatting about, you have the connections, you have the best offer, people are contacting you asking for help. You give publicly your phone number, your email address (on another forum) and you feel safe.

You should be relaxed, drive your Porsche and do not impose your services. Instead, you write the same thing over and over, on several forums.

For 2000 Euros you offer five hours of sex with the fading starlet who already has trouble to find work in the porn industry (and since you're so well versed then you even know why). Get real. For 3000 bucks in LA or Las Vegas everyone can have real porn star for the whole night, if he is smart enough. Do you think that people who travel to spend thousands of Dollars for couple hours of sex are looking for contacts on this forum? And they will believe you and your stories just because you say that you are fine guy? Are you dreaming? Let me ask you the last question, no offence please. Don't you feel like. Hm. You do not fit in this part of forum? Would not it be more fair if you would move to the Classified Ads with your offer, as suggested by Coupe66?

And why don't you have your life? Why you (and some other guys) are following mine so closely. Is it your business why I do this or I do that or I post on several forums? Would you have courage to tell me all that eye to eye? I doubt it. At the same time I don't care or say anything about your life. Things that make you go hmm. You're the one who should get real, Simony is a godess and you can keep your lameass US "stars" for yourself. But, there's so many things that you don't know and it's certainly that I won't tell you what they are. And you know what, you're "right" about everything. And I, I'll simply enjoy in fun and games in my life. One thing though, DON'T talk about my safety, cause that might be interpret as a threat.

[George Cuddler]

Can you read and understand English?

Winco, and what about you:

I'm not forgetting anything. I did not know that you had "experiences with girls on beszamolok. Hu".

How James Joyce or anybody else could "forget" something that he did not know about? Can you understand English?

Winco, where does your aggressive tone come from?

You seem to be the best informed, you fuck the pornstars, you even know what the guys on the other sites are chatting about, you have the connections, you have the best offer, people are contacting you asking for help. You give publicly your phone number, your email address (on another forum) and you feel safe.

You should be relaxed, drive your Porsche and do not impose your services. Instead, you write the same thing over and over, on several forums.

For 2000 Euros you offer five hours of sex with the fading starlet who already has trouble to find work in the porn industry (and since you're so well versed then you even know why). Get real. For 3000 bucks in LA or Las Vegas everyone can have real porn star for the whole night, if he is smart enough. Do you think that people who travel to spend thousands of Dollars for couple hours of sex are looking for contacts on this forum? And they will believe you and your stories just because you say that you are fine guy? Are you dreaming? Let me ask you the last question, no offence please. Don't you feel like. Hm. You do not fit in this part of forum? Would not it be more fair if you would move to the Classified Ads with your offer, as suggested by Coupe66?

[Winco]

Winco,

Mate, before you start pimping in Hungary (where it's criminal offence and if prosecuted, can expect 2-6 years inprisonment), may I advise that you make sure that the phone number you flogged here on the forum is anonym. Just a quick search and your name and full address is found, another quick search and there you are on Facebook. Your big ego and brain power seem not to match your networking power, and if this information is found by police (who has a specialised task force to hunt down pimps), you can expect a raid in a few days time. Perhaps you should consider going back to Serbia.

Thank you for caring about me,but you need not worry about me. I like Hungary very much and I prefere to stay here. Serbia? Why would I go there?

[Winco]

Hi Winco,

I'm not forgetting anything. I did not know that you had "experiences with girls on beszamolok. Hu". Please do not make assumptions. I did not ask what you meant, I asked what you are referring to. One of the most useful aspects of beszamolok. Hu is. Surprise, surprise. The comments from customers of the girls. That's why it is called beszamolok. If I girl has received many positive references then there is a higher chance that she provides a good service, then a girl who has received negative or no references. That doesn't mean that you, Winco, will enjoy your visit to her. So, you don't know what kind of attitude and service to expect from some/most girls. Which is it? Some or most? You seem a little confused. Who advertise on beszamolok. But, as you've stated ad nauseum, you don't need to use beszamolok. Good for you! Yes, you are competing. You are offering a service (fact) to provide access to women (so you claim) who will have sex with their clients (so you claim). You are thus competing with other people who offer the same service (fact, if your claims are true).

You DON'T need to explain to me what beszamolok means in Hungarian. Érted? If all what I'm saying about beszamolok. Hu and general situation for a foreigner in Budapest wanting to fuck a beautiful and young girl is NOT TRUE and all what you say about beszamolok. Hu and general situation for a foreigner in Budapest wanting to fuck beautiful and young girl IS TRUE, than how do you explain the fact that people are contacting me and asking for help in meeting beautiful girls problems free? As for reports on beszamolok. Hu, they might be helpful and than again they might be totally worthless. I've seen too many times high grades(8, 9 or even 10) for girls/women I wouldn't touch with a stick. So, I'm still saying and claiminng that beszamolok. Hu can be useful to some foreigners and totally worthless to others. But hey, that's just my two cents.