Florence

[Frenchie]

Was in Firenze around 10th August. Went to the streets mentioned here and there on this forum and other ones (Via Faenza, Guidoni, di Novoli, around the hippodrome) : just an old hooker near the horse race course... Ity was around 11 pm. Did not venture to Calenzano but headed back to the city centre for a beer and to watch the sexy female tourists...

[Ryo Saeba]

Thank you for your long reply.

I'm sorry if my writing made you misunderstanding.

I'm not good english speak and writer.

I heard about the street girls are the sex slaves but I wasn't sure.

Therefore, I wanted to know your ideas about the sex slave and to refer to your ideas.

No problem brother, happy if I helped.

[Ykkap]

Thank you for your long reply.

I'm sorry if my writing made you misunderstanding.

I'm not good english speak and writer.

I heard about the street girls are the sex slaves but I wasn't sure.

Therefore, I wanted to know your ideas about the sex slave and to refer to your ideas.

[Ryo Saeba]

so, please tell us what you believe.

are there any sex slaves on the escort?

when you pay a lot, that's not the crime?

please tell us your story, philosophy of the buying girls.

ykkap,

not sure if you’re attacking me, or honestly asking, or if the meaning of the expression “sex slave” is not totally clear to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sexual_slavery

regardless, i have already explained how i see it, and there's no philosophy about it, just logical, informed reasoning.

there is no widespread, local organized crime in florence, so any girl who wishes to can "set up shop" without fear of being visited by the mafia for having butted into their business. all she needs to do is rent a room and advertize on the internet through dedicated websites.

in today's world, no italian sane woman would ever think of working off the street, unless she was forced to by some serious circumstances. she could be a desperate junkie, she could be an old lady, she could be on the run.

now when it comes to foreigners, whether from spain, brazil or poland it doesn't make any difference: the premise of course is that the girl has the money to pay for the air-fare and a couple of months of rent and, more importantly, that she can lawfully enter in italy.

an illegal immigrant couldn't do any of that.

illegal immigrants are smuggled into the country, and have given up all their savings to do so, so they have no papers and no money. they know they are about to enter into a country illegally, but do so under the promise/belief that once there all will be sorted.

once they have reached destination, or possibly during the trip itself, they get raped and beaten up, and the real story gets revealed to them: they will prostitute themselves or much worse will happen to both them and their family members back at home.

finally, the amount of money you pay has nothing to do with the girl doing it out of her own free will: some housewives, in order to make ends meet for the family, occasionally prostitute themselves, with people they know, for very little. they most certainly aren't sex slaves.

so, once again: sex slavery (which is closely related and connected with [CodeWord908]) is a crime and anyone who knowingly goes with a sex slaves is a scumbag with no morals. no two ways about it.

ryo

[Ykkap]

I do not presume to know the situation somewhere else, but around Florence I spoke to girls of various ethnicities and the situation is pretty much always the same: they have no house to work in, they do not allow kissing on any part of their body: does it sound like it's their own enterprise and something they enjoy doing?

It doesn't matter if we're talking prostitution or simple illegal immigration: these people get scammed into thinking they go to a better future, whereas in fact they end up the victims of organized crime.

I do not dispute what Roman Guy says about what girls tell him, but if anyone chooses to believe that that is the real end to their story, then is also willingly turning a blind eye to one of the worst crimes man can commit.

Ryo

So, please tell us what you believe.

Are there any sex slaves on the escort?

When you pay a lot, that's not the crime?

Please tell us your story, philosophy of the buying girls.

[Malayas Fucker]

In Florence there aren't Greek pros - they are Albanian slaves.

Black girls take 20€ (oral and normal sex often anal as well) without a condom 40-50€ (Novoli zone).The best site about pros with own apartment is:

http://www.paginelucirosse.it/girlfirenze.htm

[Ryo Saeba]

I do not presume to know the situation somewhere else, but around Florence I spoke to girls of various ethnicities and the situation is pretty much always the same: they have no house to work in, they do not allow kissing on any part of their body: does it sound like it's their own enterprise and something they enjoy doing?

It doesn't matter if we're talking prostitution or simple illegal immigration: these people get scammed into thinking they go to a better future, whereas in fact they end up the victims of organized crime.

I do not dispute what Roman Guy says about what girls tell him, but if anyone chooses to believe that that is the real end to their story, then is also willingly turning a blind eye to one of the worst crimes man can commit.

Ryo

[Roman Guy]

Please note that the great majority of the street walkers in Florence and the immediate surrounding areas don't do it by choice, they are actually forced to do it under threat of repercussion on their families back in their country of origin.
Ryo

Not always like that, just a little minority, if it exists.
Most of the girls are aware what they are coming to do here.

Anytime I know an African girl on the internet on sites like Yahoo, Facebook, Bear Share, …
they always pray me to do all the possible to invite them to come here.
“What will you do when here?” 80% of them answers “Prostitution”. The rest is more oriented to enter the cocaine biz.

Do not believe what they tell crying to Police, priests or journalists: they just try to obtain mercy from them and not to be rejected or deported.

If you know one of them better she will be true with you and will tell you her story, very different from what you have heard at the television or read on newspaper.

[Ryo Saeba]

Please note that the great majority of the street walkers in Florence and the immediate surrounding areas don't do it by choice, they are actually forced to do it under threat of repercussion on their families back in their country of origin.

Ryo

[Ykkap]

You will find a lot of girls on Viale Alessandro Guidoni and Via di Novoli.

I have done with the Greek girl and price was 30 Euros in the car.

You can choose 70 Euros in her apartment.

BJ and Fuck (it called "Bocca e figa" in italian.)

No kiss on every where on the body and the mouth.

In apartment is a bit expensive.

You can find another types of girls near Calenzano.

Black girls are there but I've never tried these girls.

[Talisman]

Talisman,

I am not an expert of mongering in Florence, but from what I hear and considering the fees published by independent escorts on www.escortforumit.com/escorts/city_it_florence , I would say 300 € for 3 hours outcall is close to a bargain.

Ryo, I made a mistake saying 3 hours, it was more like 2. even for that it was not a bad deal!

If anyone is interested, contact me via here and I will give you her contact info.

[Ryo Saeba]

at the end when she told me her prices for coming to hotel (300 euro), I told her I did not expect that much but end up paying her anyway since she was really good and we had spent about 3 hours not encluding dinning.

Talisman,

I am not an expert of mongering in Florence, but from what I hear and considering the fees published by independent escorts on www.escortforumit.com/escorts/city_it_florence , I would say 300 € for 3 hours outcall is close to a bargain.

[Talisman]

Hei Talisman,

I'm not quite sure: was she a freebie you scored or a pro on the prowl?

Well done anyway,

Ryo

they are pros and they don't dress up like a working girls. after dinning that night, she asked me lets go to your place as other girl had left to go back to meet other friend and it seemed to the house. since she had not mention any price i went alone and went to my hotel. we showered and talked for a while and had very pleasent time with her. She is clean and very calm takes her time and enjoys what she does. at least thats how she made me feel.

at the end when she told me her prices for coming to hotel (300 euro), I told her I did not expect that much but end up paying her anyway since she was really good and we had spent close to 2 hours not encluding dinning.

[Ryo Saeba]

I ran in to two girls just out side of the bar and we just had a few seconds eye contact and followed with smile from one of the girls and she opened conversation as if we knew eachother. I went along by asking how is school going and after the response I told them that I was going to eat something and if they wanted to join me.

make a long story short, we went out few times and had a great time. I came to know her and know how to get in touch w/her.

Hei Talisman,

I'm not quite sure: was she a freebie you scored or a pro on the prowl?

Well done anyway,

Ryo

[Talisman]

I was in a bar drinking my expresso in one afternoon and two policia walked in the bar. as they placed an order, one of them walked to my table and asked me for my document. I told them that I was a tourist and asked where I was staying, (hotel monna lisa). I use to live in Rome in the 80's and speak italian well. but in cases like this, I rather act just like as a tourist.

The bar owner came to me a apologiezed in broken English, I guess because that was my second time at his bar. he told me that police are on the watch beasue lot of crime/illegal imigrants related to prostituation are on the rise.

as I walked out the bar thinking what to eat, I ran in to two girls just out side of the bar and we just had a few seconds eye contact and followed with smile from one of the girls and she opened conversation as if we knew eachother. I went along by asking how is school going and after the response I told them that I was going to eat something and if they wanted to join me.

make a long story short, we went out few times and had a great time. I came to know her and know how to get in touch w/her.

Talisman.