Amsterdam

[Oneminuteboy]

I was there with a friend.

50 euros to enter which can be cash or card (no AMEX). The space is quite small with 3 poles where the ladies can dance.

The ladies who were present did not have super big butts or breasts. 4 out of 6 could really dance on the pole.

They are not all attractive, there are a few with a nice face and / or body.

Didn't feel like you were forced to pay for a drink to socialize with the ladies. There is a big difference between the ladies, where one takes a glass of wine and the other immediately goes for the champagne.

The price of the drinks is of course overly expensive where easily 10-25 euros is asked on top of the price from outside.

25 euros for a lap dance of 5-10 minutes in which everyone is present has to be paid in cash. Or "more" upstairs in the private room for 150 per 30 min.

Well the latter is where a lot of discussion will come. Many of the ladies do nothing more than a fully naked dance in a private space or chill with you in the Jacuzzis.

If you want sex you will have to get the right lady. And preferably pay in cash so that she can get her share immediately. Sex has a higher chance if you go for at least 1 hour.

Also discussing what will happen in advance is very important otherwise you will come back with blue balls.

All in all, it's a nice addition to the city, but it doesn't come close to the US experience.

With increased rules for COVID there is a big change the club will close again until further notice.

[Member #4733]

So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?

I do think that RTFF is a useful advice. If you are however short of time than you should bear in mind that the RLD is 200 per hour. Normally the number of girls is lower on Monday but there will be enough choice. If you are not willing to pay that amount than you should try an option with girls that are a 6 at best. So park 118 was suggested. But you can also get an escort and hope you have a beautiful one that is giving you a good time. Another option is a small RLD area in Amsterdam that has some cheaper girls. For this you have to go to Maps and look for "Korte Korsjespoortsteeg, Amsterdam". This is not necessarily the best street as far as I know but it is the easiest way for me to guide you to that area. Just follow the red lights. The area is save but not as nice looking as "The Wallen" that everybody knows. Just remember that some girls in this area will still ask 200 per hour. So negotiate. A 100 per hour usually is available. But if you are short on time than probably park118 will be best and is easy to look up on the internet.

BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.

I'll hold you to that.

[ArisCasa]

Good afternoon!

Heading to Amsterdam on Monday for a short business trip. It will be my first time there, so hope you can give me some recommendations on where to go to have some fun. Obviously there is the RLD, but will that be a good choice on a Monday as well?

Usually I prefer to go to the erotic massage places, but they seem to be more expensive in Amsterdam than the RLD.

So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?

BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.

Those girls need to eat and pay bills on Monday too. So yeah. As for options, all you need to do is what we call as RTFF (read the fcking forum) meaning read thru last few pages of this as well as NL general forum pages and you will have handful of information. Let me get you started, try park118. Good luck.

[Badcaptain]

Good afternoon!

Heading to Amsterdam on Monday for a short business trip. It will be my first time there, so hope you can give me some recommendations on where to go to have some fun. Obviously there is the RLD, but will that be a good choice on a Monday as well?

Usually I prefer to go to the erotic massage places, but they seem to be more expensive in Amsterdam than the RLD.

So, if I want to spent 100-150 EUR / hour the best way possible, where is the place to go in your opinion?

BTW this is my first post to the Forum, but hope to make my fair bit of contributions in the future.

[JackMe2]

Some of the higher end clubs in the city have showers, hot tubs, etc. Not sure about DFK. Depends on the girl, her mood, you, etc. I'd say your odds are at least 50/50 in the sex clubs or brothels. Maybe 20% in the RLD.

If the girl is turned on she would offer DFK. But now due to pandemic situation they may not do. But if she is an independent she can offer.

[Mogwai]

It would seem to me that the RLD accounts for a decent amount of tourism, no?

Yes, but so does the rest of the city. In 2019 over 9 million people visited Amsterdam, but obviously not all 9 million visited the RLD.
If the RLD would be closed you would not notice a significant drop in the number of tourists I think. Also because the number is growing rapidly each year (pre Covid anyway). If the coffee shops would be closed as well, then it might be a different story LOL.

[TerminateHer22]

I'm a Dutch local. The parliament hasn't voted yet, they have only discussed it. The vote will be this Tuesday, September 8.

However, as it looks now only the three Christian parties (CDA, CU and SGP) are in favor of a ban, but they don't have the majority in the parliament. Not by far, only 27 seats of 150.
It's nothing new by the way. The discussion comes up every now and then and some organizations have tried a couple of times before to ban prostitution, but they never succeeded.

Nevertheless some RLDs have been closed in recent years, like the ones in Arnhem and Utrecht, or partially closed, like the main RLD in Amsterdam. Personally I think that more RLDs will follow and that more and more women will choose to work from home and advertise online.

It would seem to me that the RLD accounts for a decent amount of tourism, no?

[Member #4733]

The discussion comes up every now and then and some organizations have tried a couple of times before to ban prostitution, but they never succeeded. Nevertheless some RLDs have been closed in recent years, like the ones in Arnhem and Utrecht, or partially closed, like the main RLD in Amsterdam. Personally I think that more RLDs will follow and that more and more women will choose to work from home and advertise online.

Agree with you but I would like to add some details. So far the the efforts to curb prostitution are more local than national. There are some differences now. This proposal to ban prostitution is national and Government too is working on a new bill. The government wants agencies and prostitutes to work with government licenses. Anyone who pays a prostitute that has no license is punishable by law. So, licensed prostitutes would follow the current Dutch model. Unlicensed prostitutes would follow the Nordic model. I think this government bill is very likely to pass the process of legislation. For the customer of the RLD there is no real problem. A girl has to get the key to her room and will have to show her license then. Of course the christian parties will try to hand out fewer licenses. I do not think that RLD's will grow much smaller in the future. They only succeeded when there were real problems with other people around the RLD complaining about them (Arnhem and Utrecht). In Amsterdam it was the leader of the Social democrats that used tax money to buy property in the RLD. Their money ran out. They made a pact with a large insurance company to buy property in the RLD (Achmea). But so far there have been no new acquisitions. The favors the city council of Amsterdam wanted to grant Achmea in return were questionable. But I do not know the current state of this agreement. Then the current mayor (female) of Amsterdam seems to have only one objective: the safety of the girl. Her party is all for the Dutch model, not the Nordic one. So, most likely nothing much will change in the near future. Except for the fact that you might have to ask the girl for her license.

[Mogwai]

PARLIAMENTAGAINST BANNING PAID SEX - nltimes.nl

Looks like prostitution for new remains in The Netherlands. But once the RLD is gone who knows. Are any dutch locals on the forum? How close was the vote? Do you think in a decade it'll be gone?

I'm a Dutch local. The parliament hasn't voted yet, they have only discussed it. The vote will be this Tuesday, September 8.

However, as it looks now only the three Christian parties (CDA, CU and SGP) are in favor of a ban, but they don't have the majority in the parliament. Not by far, only 27 seats of 150.
It's nothing new by the way. The discussion comes up every now and then and some organizations have tried a couple of times before to ban prostitution, but they never succeeded.

Nevertheless some RLDs have been closed in recent years, like the ones in Arnhem and Utrecht, or partially closed, like the main RLD in Amsterdam. Personally I think that more RLDs will follow and that more and more women will choose to work from home and advertise online.

[GuyBrusg1957]

PARLIAMENTAGAINST BANNING PAID SEX - nltimes.nl

A majority in parliament shot down a CDA proposal to ban paid sex. According to multiple parties, making prostitution illegal is no way to fight abuses in the industry. Main objections were that banning prostitution would only send sex workers underground, and make the abuses against them even more invisible, Het Parool and De Telegraaf report.

CDA parliamentarian Anne Kuik argued that prostitution is by definition unequal, and that the sector is full of abuses. "Most prostitutes would not actually want to have sex with the man in front of them. But it still happens, because it is paid. So consent is bought, the woman is a product. That is no longer possible in these modern times," Kuik said. But her proposal only got support from the other two Christian parties, SGP and ChristenUnie, who have been arguing for banning prostitution for years.

The other two coalition parties VVD and D66 are against a ban. "As far as the VVD is concerned, prostitution remains legal," VVD parliamentarian Martijn Bolkestein said. "You cannot first regulate a profession and then ban its patronage. " The VVD sees more value in prosecuting criminal pimps and brothel owners.

"Prostitution is just a job, a profession," D66 parliamentarian Achraf Bouali said. "A lot of people enjoy doing this and earn a living with it. " Bouali is worried that banning prostitution will only result in it moving underground. That would lead to more violence and an increase in the number of HIV infection, the MP said.

Looks like prostitution for new remains in The Netherlands. But once the RLD is gone who knows. Are any dutch locals on the forum? How close was the vote? Do you think in a decade it'll be gone?

[GuyBrusg1957]

Some of the higher end clubs in the city have showers, hot tubs, etc. Not sure about DFK. Depends on the girl, her mood, you, etc. I'd say your odds are at least 50/50 in the sex clubs or brothels. Maybe 20% in the RLD.

[Sirioja]

Ahhh, that's why you write so much.

I already had a bad feeling about that introduction to Kate. Well, a pity.

You can have sex in Amsterdam in various ways and places. I think RLD is the most transparent. So, the windows, yes. There are three areas. The Wallen being the most famous. The other areas are more hassle to get there and not much of a reward in return. The Wallen is close to Central Station. With some ladies you can shower but not with all of them and almost nobody does that. In each room is a faucet and you can shortly wash your private parts there. Not much of a problem if you go to your hotel or home afterwards. Even E. Coli takes 20 minutes to double their number, so not really top of hygiene but it's better than most windows in other places (Brussels for example). The rate should be 50 for 15 minutes or any multiple of that. Don't ever go for 15 minutes. It is going nowhere. Don't pay more than this. Asking more money in RLD usually means lower quality of service. It's in the girl's head! BBBJ is sometimes on the table. I have heard of three and had one giving BBBJ. All of these girls were very popular and then vanished for a few months. After they returned they didn't do BBBJ anymore. Clear sign of a STD. So, better don't do BBBJ in RLD Amsterdam. By the way I caught an STD in GT after a BBBJ in October 2016. In all these years and that is 30+ I found one girl that kissed me. Maybe if you are handsome they may do that but not much chance. But upon leaving you get three kisses on the cheek. Even now. Especially the top girls in RLD Amsterdam are more beautiful than GT. Try Dollebegijnensteeg or OudeKennissteeg. In the evening there are far more girls and real gems but girls are less service oriented. They quite often ask more money and with tourists they often play them like they really shouldn't: promise, ask more money and do nothing and repeat this. The streets late at night become a bit peculiar. Drugs dealing especially in the Monnikensteeg. A lot of men that celebrate their bachelor party etc etc. But you can have a perfect session with a perfect beautiful girl. And Sirioja for you with your experience in SC the RLD will not be a serious competitor but you might try it once now, as Germany SC is still closed.

I meant are there good rooms with shower for good hygiene? If not, I can't enjoy sex. Of course, I love beauties, and GT is not best place for natural beauties, but I need DFK to enjoy sex and never caught something bad with girls on Kate level.

[Member #4733]

First, I only write on this forum, because make me practice English like at school, and relaxing my mind to practice foreign language.

Ahhh, that's why you write so much.

I know Kate since September 2015 at Velbert where she was full busy and same when she moved to GT, sometimes booked for whole day by some guys, Italian, NL, why I say superstar, but you are right: GT is closed and NRW is in trouble about virus.

I already had a bad feeling about that introduction to Kate. Well, a pity.

I don t know Amsterdam RLD, where do you have sex? In windows? Shower? What is rate? BBBJ? Are girls kissing? When always looking for beauties. NL girls or mostly Romanians like in FKK?

You can have sex in Amsterdam in various ways and places. I think RLD is the most transparent. So, the windows, yes. There are three areas. The Wallen being the most famous. The other areas are more hassle to get there and not much of a reward in return. The Wallen is close to Central Station. With some ladies you can shower but not with all of them and almost nobody does that. In each room is a faucet and you can shortly wash your private parts there. Not much of a problem if you go to your hotel or home afterwards. Even E. Coli takes 20 minutes to double their number, so not really top of hygiene but it's better than most windows in other places (Brussels for example). The rate should be 50 for 15 minutes or any multiple of that. Don't ever go for 15 minutes. It is going nowhere. Don't pay more than this. Asking more money in RLD usually means lower quality of service. It's in the girl's head! BBBJ is sometimes on the table. I have heard of three and had one giving BBBJ. All of these girls were very popular and then vanished for a few months. After they returned they didn't do BBBJ anymore. Clear sign of a STD. So, better don't do BBBJ in RLD Amsterdam. By the way I caught an STD in GT after a BBBJ in October 2016. In all these years and that is 30+ I found one girl that kissed me. Maybe if you are handsome they may do that but not much chance. But upon leaving you get three kisses on the cheek. Even now. Especially the top girls in RLD Amsterdam are more beautiful than GT. Try Dollebegijnensteeg or OudeKennissteeg. In the evening there are far more girls and real gems but girls are less service oriented. They quite often ask more money and with tourists they often play them like they really shouldn't: promise, ask more money and do nothing and repeat this. The streets late at night become a bit peculiar. Drugs dealing especially in the Monnikensteeg. A lot of men that celebrate their bachelor party etc etc. But you can have a perfect session with a perfect beautiful girl. And Sirioja for you with your experience in SC the RLD will not be a serious competitor but you might try it once now, as Germany SC is still closed.

[Sirioja]

Your superstar. Yes, you keep bringing her up in any forum available and now I am very curious as I really don't know her. But GT is closed by now as far as I know. I would love to get acquainted with this superstar. So introduce me to her as soon as GT is open again. In GT I always miss out on the most popular girls. No problem as there are always enough women that are interesting. But I am jealous of the guys that meet the hot shots on a seemingly regular basis. How do you manage that. For a true comparison between Amsterdam and GT I usually take all costs in the account. So, before I get into GT I have spent 100 euro at least. If I spend one hour in the room, then that makes 200 euro. Just the same as one hour with Lily in Amsterdam will cost me. My travel to Amsterdam is for free! And going back on subject. Yes, Lily is lovely and a little bit too short to be a model. But everything else is perfect to me. I will try other girls in the (near) future though because I am not married nor do I want to be married or anything that is too similar. To round things up, I prefer sessions of 1 hour but I just could not control myself.

First, I only write on this forum, because make me practice English like at school, and relaxing my mind to practice foreign language. I know Kate since September 2015 at Velbert where she was full busy and same when she moved to GT, sometimes booked for whole day by some guys, Italian, NL, why I say superstar, but you are right: GT is closed and NRW is in trouble about virus. I don t know Amsterdam RLD, where do you have sex? In windows? Shower? What is rate? BBBJ? Are girls kissing? When always looking for beauties. NL girls or mostly Romanians like in FKK?

[Member #4733]

I hope she is a super lovely real model to worth 400 for 2 hours, when busy superstar Kate at GT is for 200/120.

Your superstar. Yes, you keep bringing her up in any forum available and now I am very curious as I really don't know her. But GT is closed by now as far as I know. I would love to get acquainted with this superstar. So introduce me to her as soon as GT is open again. In GT I always miss out on the most popular girls. No problem as there are always enough women that are interesting. But I am jealous of the guys that meet the hot shots on a seemingly regular basis. How do you manage that. For a true comparison between Amsterdam and GT I usually take all costs in the account. So, before I get into GT I have spent 100 euro at least. If I spend one hour in the room, then that makes 200 euro. Just the same as one hour with Lily in Amsterdam will cost me. My travel to Amsterdam is for free! And going back on subject. Yes, Lily is lovely and a little bit too short to be a model. But everything else is perfect to me. I will try other girls in the (near) future though because I am not married nor do I want to be married or anything that is too similar. To round things up, I prefer sessions of 1 hour but I just could not control myself.