Amsterdam

[Gizmo]

Forest,

As far as I know the access code for www.VipEscorts.nl consists of figures only. So all you have to do is learn how to count from 0 to 9 in Dutch. But that's easy for me to say.

I think they came up with this system because a lot of people are afraid to pay by credit card on the internet.

"In some cities the only way to find an escort is through the phone book."

Yes, and news papers. But I think the problem in Holland is that there are many many (small) escort services and 90% of them is not reliable.

[Member #4643]

Wolfy,

As far as I can tell, all of the hotels in the Netherlands are fine with an escort. Prostitution is legal in Holland, and the policies of the hotels reflect that fact. In addition, unlike the third world, your escort is unlikely to spend the night, and the hotels know it. At 150-250 euros per hour, not many guys are interested in having a girl sleep with them (as in actually closing their eyes and sleeping). Thus, there is no extra charge for the company, unlike third world hotels that often charge a guest fee. This has been my experience on the last few trips to Holland (I go about once per year), but I assume this is the case for most places in the country.

I stayed at the Novotel near Rai station (convenient to my business meetings). The girls had to check in at the front desk unless you met them downstairs and escorted them to your room. The Novotel has a great internet rate (105 euros per night).

For the tourist, I recommend something more central. I was a little unhappy because my hotel was a bit far away from restaurants and coffee shops, but the escort agencies are fine with hotels that are not in the city center. If you decide to stay in another city, even one that is very close by, the Amsterdam agencies charge you an extra 50 euros or more. This was the case last time I was in Holland, when I stayed in Leiden.

My only serious complaint with this country is that internet access to the girls is far more difficult than other European countries. The independents advertise in Dutch (incomprehensible to me, even though I speak English, French, Spanish and Portuguese) and have that crazy system that I have asked several questions about below (thanks Gizmo, but I don't think I will ever be able to understand the access code in Dutch. Why on earth did they come up with this system????). This makes finding GFE much more difficult, since talking to an escort before making a decision to hire her is nearly impossible. In addition, the agenciy web sites don't show faces and even sometimes do not list prices. In some cities the only way to find an escort is through the phone book! But the sex is entirely legal, the HIV rate is low, and the country is very tolerant of all sorts of behavior. If only sex weren't so expensive in Holland!

[Wolfy]

What hotel would you recommend to stay at when visiting Amsterdam? I want a hotel that's not very strict about having an escort coming to the hotelroom. And what are the prices for a night there?

Thanx!

Wolfy

[Gizmo]

Forest,

Instructions on http://www.VipEscorts.nl

Click "Inloggen NL" at the bottom of the home page.
Dial this number: 0900 8 222 222. It will cost you 1.30 euro per call. This is true, the 0900 numbers can be expensive but they are reliable!
After you have dialed you will hear an access code. In Dutch, but they repeat it and if you want to hear it again press * on your telephone.
Have fun, there are indeed some stunning girls on that site.

[Member #4643]

I missed Freeler's comments.

I think I will stay with agencies that I trust and pay the extra bucks. I am never in AMS for more than a few days, and I can suffer until I get back to my beloved Brazil.

[Member #4643]

Thanks for the feedback on my question. Unfortuantely, as a regular member, my post was not on the board until I was already in AMS and on my way home.

As you can see from my report of Vienna, although I agree with previous posters that it is nice, it does not really provide what I personally like in my ladies. I like women who kiss and BBBJ. I like the other things as well, but it doesn't feel like GFE especially if a girl is unwilling to kiss . After all, I have had several dozen real girlfriends, and they all kissed before they were willing to fuck. How can GFE not include kissing???

So after my experience at Vienna, I called an agency called asian-girls. They are listed in the phone book and, I suspect, have no asian girls , but no matter. I explained to the gentleman on the phone what I wanted, and explained that if the girl did not agree to french kiss, I would send her home. When the girl came, she was absolutely lovely and sweet. But when I mentioned the kissing, she adamantly refused and in the end left in tears when I rejected her and took my money back (giving her money for a taxi). The asshole at the agency then sent me another girl (a Romanian of not such good looks who kissed very well, gave a mediocre CBJ but was certainly good at sex), but I still feel that there was a totally unnecessary scene for the first girl and myself. In fact, I almost lost my desire to have sex, it was such an unpleasant experience :-)

If I cannot get an agency to send me exactly what I want, I feel that I should be talking directly to the girl. Thus, my desire to figure out where the independent girls advertise in AMS, and only work through them. But, unlike London and anywhere in the USA, the independents are truly hard to find in AMS. Perhaps iots because the girls are unionized, and get health insurance and the like if they work for an agency. More likely, I simply do not know how to find the girls.

Incidentally, I have used one agency several times in AMS called Women of the World. They are fantastic, and when you specify what you want, you get exactly what you asked for. This time, I had a blonde with a tight atheletic body to die for, 5'4", 34-22-34 and the tightest and nicest pussy you can imagine. Smart and interesting to talk with (in fact, the hard part was not wasting too much time talking with her about all sorts of interesting subjects, since she really wasn't hired to educate me). Her name is Nicole, but....250 euros per hour. These are New York prices, and I simply do not know if its worth it. The girls, incidentally, are all 8's, even though they look like 10 in the photos on the web site. A definite step up from Viennna, but these are not runway models.

As for the girls who advertise in the paper, I always worry that someone who looks ugly will show up at my door, and never call these ads.

So here is where I am requesting help: I have found an independent web site with photos of lots of girls whom are perfectly acceptable in looks to me, and appear to be independents. I feel that it would be perfect to talk directly with the girl and ask her, before she came to my hotel room, if she DFKs, BBBJs, etc. Then I could make up my mind before wasting any time and money. Would one of you Dutch speaking guys check it out and give me some instructions on how to contact these girls? It is: http://www.VipEscorts.nl/; I clicked on Netherlands and again on North Holland (which is the area that the AMS girls are in). But after clicking on blondes, I could not fifgure out how to contact the women. I have emailed, but these emails have been uniformly ignored. These are the instuructions I need. Bedankt!

Thanks F

[Paddyo]

Forest,

Freeler is right, avoid those telephone numbers. However buy a copy of the Telegraaf, a dutch daily newspaper, check out the classified ads, under sections for éscorts', '' prives', etc. You dont need much dutch to figure out what they are.

Good luck.

(there are also other forums that are specifically for Holland).

[Gizmo]

Forest,

Maybe these ones are better for you:

http://www.privedames.nl/

Select "Escort" at the top of the page. Ads with mobile number or email and the area where the woman works. "Randstad" means the area with the 4 main cities: Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Den Haag (The Hague) and Utrecht. "Nederland" means the whole of the Netherlands.
Not so many nice women though.

http://www.amirra-escort.nl/

Seems good to me. Has some positive reviews at www.hookers.nl
From 125 euro per hour.

http://www.amsterdammertje.com/escortservice.html

6 links to escort services

[Round the World]

Quick report from an Amsterdam first-timer:

In town for IBC last weekend, I saw AMS and its RLD for the first time. I wasn't expecting much from the RLD except touristy ripoffs but quickly saw a slim, dark-haired hottie in a window near the end of the RLD labelled In Den Lichtenkooi.

Her name was Angie, 22, from the Dominican Republic. She was light-skinned, jet black hair, thin young girl's body and alluring eyes. After paying the standard 50 for F&S and a little small talk she stripped and got into a nice CBJ with great eye contact. We continued to CG, mish and a finale in doggy. Overall a very nice experience.

I visited her twice more during my stay and it was well worth it. Her performances never got more liberal, but the conversations were a little more interesting.

Also in AMS, I tried Park 118 based on the reviews on this board. I gotta say that I was disappointed in the looks of the girls. On my first try there were three girls Donna, Sara and another girl from Surinam. None were in my opinion worth doing. I tend to prefer beauty over performance, but even if these girls were stellar performers, it still wouldn't be worth it for me. No flames please, it's just my opinion. I also don't really like the privat format of a limited number of girls whom you only get to meet for a handshake prior to making your decision. I stopped by Park 118 a few days later and there were different girls (Sara still) but I was still not interested. Is the day shift just a particular bad time?

Overall, though I greatly enjoyed visiting AMS and especially the amazing local girls you find riding the trams. I look forward to returning.

Cheers
RtW

[Freeler]

Forest,

The code is for dialer access: STAY AWAY!!!

The only sure way to get a callgirl over is to buy a local newspaper and check the ads under 'clubs' or 'prive'.
0900, 0906 and 0909 telephonenumbers are always bullshit, as in telephonesex or worse: no telephonesex or anything...
06 are mobilephones.

[Member #4643]

INDEPENDENT ESCORT WEB SITE QUESTION;

Can someone explain how this works? Here is an example of what type of site drives me crazy (I have nowfound several just like this). http://www.sexservicegids.nl/gidsen/escortgids.htm

How does one ever call the girl and tell her to come to your hotel?

It seems that in order to make an appointment with a girl, one has to call a telephone number? Is this correct? If so, what is the code for?

I am only interested in fs, not phone sex or internet porn.

HELP!!

[Bangind]

CTDan,

Thanks for all the information you provided me. Right now I am back after a great 10 days in Amsterdam. Your Information really helped. Had a great Time! Especially in "Vienna Massage" on Rinjstraat 244 was awesome.

These women there have class and cleanliness. The bars at Liedsplein and Rambrantsplein were real cool.

Thanks again. And I hope will be there in Amsterdam soon.

Bangind

[Gizmo]

Quimrod,

I've never noticed blue lights but maybe that's because I visit Amsterdam by daylight most of the time. I don't know if you want to avoid or visit TS but anyway I can assure you that the TS are concentrated in 4 streets, as you can see on my map also: Gordijnensteeg, Bloedstraat, Barndesteeg and the corner of Koestraat / Oudezijds Achterburgwal. You will hardly ever find a TS elsewhere.

Also, you don't need much mongering experience to see they are TS. A lot of them don't even try to hide it.

Maybe the blue lights are just the fashion? Or those lights against mosquitos? Or black lights (but they are purple?).

Mark Monki,

I've never seen any midgets or dwarfs in Amsterdam nor anywhere else in Holland. The Dutch forum (www.hookers.nl) also doesn't mention any. I'm sorry.

Seahorse,

Thank you! I know I "forgot" Spuistraat/Poortsteeg. It's not really worth mentioning.

Frenchie II,

I think you should read this forum before posting questions like that but this is what I can tell you in general: 99% percent of the really good-looking girls will not do BBBJ and certainly not CIM. However there's one exception: the Thai girls are good-looking too and are willing to do a BBBJ if you pay them a little extra (usually around 20 euro). And some of them will even allow CIM.

The Thai girls are also cheaper than the (good-looking) white girls and their service is better most of the time. Although I have to say it has gone downhill a bit compared to a few years ago.

As for AS (anal service I assume): just ask the girl. It's not easy I think. Try the Latina's.

[Quimrod]

Gizmo,

As a local perhaps you can enlighten me as to the veracity of the rumour that a blue light in a window automatically means the occupant of that kamer is a TS? I've noticed a hell of a lot of the kamers have a blue light as well as a red one. This has been a hot topic several times in the past on this forum but a real local perspective would be good.

[Mark Monki]

I'm going for the 1st time to Amsterdam on the 30th Sept. Does anyone know if there are any midget/dwarf working girls in the area?

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