Amsterdam

[Safe Punter]

Recent trip to AMS. Had a few girls in the RLD, just a couple of quickies, one was a nice Italian, with whom I was her first of the evening. She kept asking me to fuck her harder. Nice. The other good one was a eastern european chick. Clearly an illegal worker, since she said she came from Belgium, but spoke no flemish or french. Still, she was a good fuck, and got into it quite nicely. The third one in the RLD was an Asian chick, but no good: kept holding the condom while I fucked her, and pulled me out as I was cumming.

I went to Park 118. Only two girls available and I selected Sarah. Nice bath with bubbles, then onto some good oral sex, then I fucked her. Tall, and very dutch. Compared to the RLD much better value.

[Saint]

here is part of my report that i typed on my laptop when i was in amsterdam. i'm posting it now even though i already went to amsterdam.


finally i’m resting. today was another very busy day. yesterday i walked around a ton and today was no different. i saw many different parts of the city today. i recommend you take some sort of city tour as it’s a good base to familiarize yourself with the city. a city tour with a canal tour is 22€ which i found to be a good deal. you can do them separately if you want. 17€ for the city tour and 7€ for the water tour.

this is my 6th trip to europe in as many months. i could never get tired of the great architecture here. nothing beats europe when you consider architecture, history, and beauty. amsterdam is a very clean city. the people here are also very beautiful. the girls are taller and more beautiful than many of their european neighbors. walking around london i rarely see classically beautiful girls but it’s totally different here. amsterdam is also filled with tons of young people. in germany and switzerland you rarely see big groups or crowds of young kids but in amsterdam it is filled with them.

amsterdam is also an extremely laid back city. i would say that 90%+ of both the natives and the tourists wear blue jeans. i came during the high season so there are tons of tourists and the streets are full.

arriving from london is very easy. odds are you will fly here on a low cost carrier like easyjet. i think my ticket was only around $100 or so with taxes but then i had to pay another $60 in overweight baggage charges. when you arrive from the airport depending on where you are staying you can take the klm shuttle which is only 10.50€. it goes to 16 of the top rated hotels. even if it doesn’t go to your hotel, odds are it will go close to it. it stops in front of the airport and runs every 20 minutes and no reservations are needed. luckily they stopped right at my hotel. i think someone told me a taxi is around 35-40€ so definitely take the shuttle.

upper end hotels here are quite pricey. i’m at the marriott and it’s in a good part of town in leidseplein which houses many of the clubs and restaurants. it also has tons of clothing stores. clothes here aren’t cheap though. i noticed that either someone at easyjet or american helped themselves to some of my clothes from my bag so i had to go out and buy some new clothes. a pair of nice jeans costs 100€. ($120).

it’s quite easy to walk around the city. i haven’t taken a taxi and won’t and i haven’t even used the above ground tram system preferring to walk. many people will tell you that amsterdam is very easy to get around. that is generally true but it’s easy to get lost. something i like doing when in europe is just walking around aimlessly. i’ll walk a good hour or two then look on a map and see where i am. then i’ll make my way back to my hotel. beware though. many streets look the same here and without a map you could get lost. however, after a while you’ll notice what street you’re on and easily can make your way around.

you must have a good map if you want to get to know amsterdam. i prefer the knopf citymap guides which are quite small and will fit in a jacket pocket and folds out to show each major part of the city. i’m not sure which cities they have but i bought one for london, paris, and prague. there are six major parts of the city. they are leidseplein, the dam, museumplein/waterloo, rembrandtplein and mutplein. another good map is the suurland-falkplan- amsterdam tourist map which shows every street and canal, tram routes/stops and the museums. you can buy it from most tourist stores for around 3€.

at first i thought the city is too spread out to walk on foot but i was wrong. i’d say you can see most parts of the city with a 6 hour walk. add in several more hours if you want to stop in any part of it. make sure you have comfortable shoes as you definitely will need them. also, be careful as i don’t think pedestrians have the right of way here. i’ve seen a few people nearly get hit by cars, buses and trams. yesterday i saw a girl on a bike within 2 seconds of getting smashed like a fly from a speeding bus.

speaking of girls on bicycles, there are a ton of them riding around. some of them are damn hot too. i can’t imagine how beautiful it must be in the summer seeing all the girls with their short skirts riding around on their bikes. the bicycle seems to be the preferred method of getting around. i heard that there are as many bicycles as there are citizens here (735,000). whether that is true or not i’m not sure but there seems to be bicycles everywhere. the funny thing is they aren’t nice bicycles either. they all look old fashioned and its kind of surreal to see everyone including men on these bikes. i took tons of great pictures of bicycles chained on bridges, against buildings and in the background. one of my favorite pictures that i took was this bicycle at this restaurant with a sign that says, “no bikes”.

there are tons of great restaurants here. the food is quite good. they have every range of restaurants here. you don’t have to spend a lot of money on good food either if you don’t want to. i know some of you don’t like spending money on food or it’s not important to you. i love eating good food. i usually go to nice places at night but during the day it’s easy to snack affordable here. they have these great shaorma places with these egyptian sandwiches. they are very tasty. you can get a large sandwich, french fries and a soda for about 11€. they also have this store on leidsestraat that has snacks they put in these vending machine type windows. you simply put a 1€ coin into the slot and you pull out the food item. you can see guys in the back of the machines constantly refilling them with fresh items. i ate something last night coming home. i’m not sure what it’s called but it was this breaded item that was filled with gravy and mushrooms. it was good.

the stores close early here. most of the clothes stores close by 5:30 pm here which i find odd. there are still tons of tourists walking around so i’m not sure why they close so early. maybe they just want to relax and enjoy themselves??

the culture and people here are super laid back. if you couldn’t already tell from them accepting and legalizing prostitution, you’d figure it out when you see these stand up toilet stands that guys can use in busy touristy areas. i took a picture of it and will post it. they are these stand up toilets that guys just [CodeWord140] in. it’s a little surreal to see guys taking a whiz with tons of tourists walking around. talk about an un-shy society.

there are tons of great museums here. you definitely shouldn’t miss some of them. the rijksmuseum is closed for 4 more years until mid-2008 for renovations but there are plenty of others. i also hit anne frankhuis (anne frank’s house) which was nothing major but very interesting when you consider what she went through. i just got done reading the diary of anne frank so it was especially interesting.

ok. now for some hobby information. i’ve been traveling more the past year more to see beautiful places than see beautiful girls. still, i like to combine the best of both worlds when possible. amsterdam has a ton of hobby action from clubs, private girls, rld and other options. to be honest, i’m not that motivated to hobby here. i’m saving funds for when i arrive in prague.

i walked down the rld and it’s very interesting. you can read and hear all about it but until you are walking down it you can’t really appreciate what it’s like. keep in mind there are a ton of tourists here. not only men but women as well visit it out of curiosity.

i always thought that rld would be bigger than it is. it’s actually a small area. just look at a map at the damstraat area. locate oudezijds voorburgwal as far north as the oude kerk (old church). as expected, the girls are in apartments with red lights around the window frames. some of the girls are downright nasty. some of them are fat and just plain ugly. how they make money is perhaps the biggest mystery i’ve encountered in my trips to europe. it might be from the drunk guys walking around. i saw many british guys that were so drunk they could barely walk.

there are also several hotties in some of the windows. none of the girls look like they are from the netherlands. instead many looked hispanic, asian, eastern european and brazilian. they are all wearing bikinis or some other sexy outfits like two girls i saw in skimpy nurses uniforms. the girls will wink at you or tap on the window to get your attention. it really takes a girl that is not shy to do this as there are so many tourists that come here.

it was for that reason that i wasn’t too fired up to see a girl. my best friend told me how he had to do the “walk of shame” when seeing these girls. i didn’t really understand until i was there at the rld. you have to understand that everyone can see you talking to the girls and going in. i’m not shy but didn’t like the aspect of couples just standing there watching guys negotiate then go into the apartment. i kept walking around looking at the girls and one girl kept trying to get my attention. many of the girls try to get your attention but this girl just kept trying. she even spotted me when i was across the canal on the other side and kept waving for me to come over. it was funny.

i don’t think there is too much negotiating going on. most girls seemed to flash a 5 sign with their fingers while walking by which i took to mean 50€. i heard many guys saying it was for 25 minutes maximum. when i finally walked over to that girl i didn’t want to stand outside the door for very long. even at midnight the area was packed because it was friday night. i asked her 50€ and she said yes. then i asked for 30 minutes and she said no problem. i wasn’t expecting much and my friend told me the girls were very unenthusiastic and just rushed him. the girl i was with was ukrainian but her english was decent. i think she said her name was rachel. she is a couple doors down from that sex show with the funky statue.

she was actually getting into the sex which surprised me. she did say, “baby you cum for me” after about 20 minutes but i knew i wasn’t going to finish. i asked her if i could extend for another 30 minutes and she said no problem. i did have a strong finish and was quite pleased. no gfe or bbbj although i didn’t expect it. still, not bad for 100€ ($120) for an hour with a super hottie. i really believe it makes a difference if you are clean, don’t smell like smoke and are nice to the girl.

i think the rest of the world can learn a good lesson from amsterdam. prostitution is really the oldest profession in the world. it will always be around no matter what the government does. amsterdam realizes this and actually makes a ton of money taxing the girls and bringing in tourists who want to visit out of curiosity. i actually didn’t see too many guys going into the apartments and i walked around several hours but i imagine it gets busier as the night goes on. these girls must make a fortune at 50€ for 20-25 minutes.

i’m not sure why people make such a big deal about sex. sex is just sex and people don’t get enough of it. sex relaxes us, makes us happier and keeps us young. ok. i’m going to rest for a while then eat and then probably hit a club or the rld again. i leave for paris tomorrow. i’m planning on hooking up with my non-pro girl and maybe meeting this dude from wsg that lives there.

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wow. tonight i had the worst hobbying session of my life. against my better judgment i walked down the rld again. there seemed to be less hotties this time. although there were even more tourists walking down both sides of the street. i was dead tired from walking around all day. i finally took a tram today and they are quite easy to figure out. most trips are 1.60€. you can use it over again if you use it within one hour.

anyway, i walked down to the action. i saw a huge fight with some drunken british guys. (they seem to be the ones that are always drunk. they sure know how to get their drink on). anyway, these cops came over and i saw the hottest female cop of my life. hell, one of the hottest girls of my life. she was gorgeous. i stood there about 10 minutes watching her cuff the drunken ass. i was getting turned on and was tempted to go over and ask her to marry me. ha, ha. seriously though i’m turned on by hot female cops and one of my goals is to sleep with one in the future.

i walked down the rld and wasn’t going to hobby. then i see this fricking hot girl. dirty blonde hair, perfect body, nice breasts, model face. ok. i flashed a 5 and she told me to come to the door. she buzzed it open before i got to the top of the stairs. she was hot as hell! she claimed to be from amsterdam but i don’t know for sure. she spoke dutch fluently. i told her that i thought only foreign girls work here and she simply said, “i guess you guessed wrong”. her english was good. i inquired about time and she said 15-20 minutes which was about ½ of yesterday. i knew the sex would be bad at this point but i didn’t do the walk of shame for nothing so i bucked up and sessioned. first she made me shower and watched me. i told her i just got out of the shower but she didn’t believe me. the girls here also require you to pay first.

we start f*cking in one room for about 3 minutes when one of the girls from the other room pulls her out and said she is in the wrong room. ok. so we go into another room. she won’t take off her bikini top or bottom. she just gave me a bad cbj and then got on top just sliding her panties to the side. make sure to ask the girl ahead of time and negotiate this as part of the deal. meanwhile the door is open and girls are walking back and forth. to make things worse, only after about 5 minutes she is telling me to hurry and cum. i said, “huh?????” she said that the time starts once you entered. time includes showering, taking off clothes, getting interrupted, etc. i should have been pissed but i was just laughing because i was in shock. i guess this was the amsterdam rld my friend warned me about. last night was the equivalent of me hitting the lottery if all girls are like this girl tonight. i was really lucky last night.

simply put it was the worst session i’ve had out of who knows how many hundreds of girls i’ve seen. this was the first time in 6 years of hobbying that i didn’t orgasm. even if i could come in 10 minutes it would be impossible with the door open and the general rush attitude of the girl. i’d rather pay $200 or $300 an hour for unrushed gfe quality than waste 50€ ($61) for a rushed horrible session. now that i think about it i totally lucked out last night. for whatever reason that girl was attracted to me and she was not rushing me out the door. that is rare here i guess? i guess my luck ran out.

my suggestion is ask where the girl is from. if she says amsterdam, get the hell out of there. it will be a big waste of money. last night i could have gotten the best girl and tonight i could have gotten the worst girl. oh well.

because of that horrible experience i’ll never hobby in the rld again. come to amsterdam for the beauty of the city, the wonderful people that all speak english, the coffee houses (if you spoke pot), but if you are looking for good sex there are too many other areas around europe to go to. still, i guess if you’re all the way in amsterdam you need to at least experience it.

before anyone mentions it and asks why i didn’t go to the other options….like i said. i’m not in the mood to go to high end clubs since i’m going to paris and prague. it was more of the experience to see how it was going to be. it’s about 2:30 am and i have to wake up early to go to paris tomorrow by train. ciao.

[Saint]

I am in Paris now. Damn these keyboards are ass backwards. I cant post a long report with these keyboards. I have a more detailed report on my USB stick but I cant use it here. I had the worst session of my life my last night in Amsterdam. Not only that but I figured out the next day the girls friend stole cash out of my wallet while I was showering. $300!!! Ouch!!! At least I had an awesome night with my girl here in Paris.

OK. I figured out I can change the keyboard to English. Anyway, the session was horrible! She kept asking me when I'm leaving town and unfortunately I told her in the morning. I'm 100% positive her friend stole the money. If I was still in Amsterdam I would have gone to the police. I didn't notice the money gone until I was on the train to the airport. A very expensive lesson. I told my friend taking me to the airport nothing bad has happened on all my journeys and I was due to get robbed. I was right!

I'm at the Le Meridien-Etoile in Paris and the hotel is very posh. It's supposed to be the flagship of the chain. The lobby area is super nice. I got a fairly good deal when you consider the posted room rate in the lobby says 540 Euros a night for the standard room!

Internet cafes are hard to find in Paris. I finally found one here in the Latin Quarter. I really like this area. Lots of good bars and restaurants.

I just had a few beers from MaxCandy from this board. A totally cool dude that seems articulate and easy going. He's a lucky dude with the life he lives. He gave me the phone number of a girl in Prague. I hope the # still works but as I told him....she is probably living with such rich Italian dude in the South of France by now. Ha, ha.

P.S. Some dude asked me for more information so he could warn others. I'm cutting/pasting my answer to him.


I wish I noticed immediately after but I just wanted to get the hell out of there. Now I know the girl had it planned from the beginning. I know you don't know me but many on the site know me and know I'm honest. That girl is a thief! I don't remember her name but she claimed to be Dutch. I couldn't tell but told her I didn't believe her but she claimed she was. She spoke perfect Dutch. She claimed to only been working 3 days. I don't remember her name. She works a few doors down from that one Dick Statue from that one place. There are about 4 windows together elevated a little next to one window on street level. There were 2 hot blondes in the adjoining windows that looked Russian. I think these were the girls that stole the money.

She immediately asked me how long I was in town for. I really wasn't thinking and told her tomorrow. She said.."ah..so you're leaving in a few hours". Oh well. Shame on me. I've been all over the world and leaving my wallet in my pants in the room away from my sight was a rookie move. Still, since it is regulated there I thought the girls wouldn't try to pull this shit. Like I said before, a VERY expensive lesson. I'm pissed about the money but moreso at myself for letting it happen.

[Lanrac]

Dogman,

If your looking for outcall try Amsterdam Callgirls. They are owned and managed by women. So far the comments have been favorable. I had a Birthday Bash with two of their girls a couple of years ago at the Krasnapolsky. Great experience. I think Societe Annoyme and Vienna Massage offer outcall as well. Go with the agencies that have gotten good reviews. Check ignatzmice.com and go to the escorts section for more info

N-Joy

Lanrac aka Carnal1

[DogmanX]

Amsterdam Veterans,

I'll be in Amsterdam in late June and was wondering about "out-call" service from one of the many private houses.

I was looking for a couple of Asian girls to come to my expensive downtown hotel to entertain me and my wife.

Any suggestions, or first-hand experiences with "out-call" in the Netherlands???

THANKS, Amsterdam hobbyists!

Dogman X

[Saint]

Damn. What a beautiful city. I don't have much time to post now but I thought I'd give a quick update. Internet cafes aren't too common here that I can see. I found one near the train station in an alley behind the McDonalds on Damrack 34 or in that vicinity. Yesterday I walked ALL around the city. I probably walked around 7 hours including the day and night. It was raining so it kind of sucked but today is gorgeous out. I'm staying at the Marriott which is great. It's not cheap but like most of the Marriotts in Europe the quality is there and my best is really comfortable. I was dead last night after I got to my hotel.

I think I've never slept so hard in my life. My feet were so sore from walking. I walked around the RLD last night and it's super interesting to say the least. I heard you couldn't take pictures so I didn't bring my camera but I saw many people snapping photos. As long as you're not taking one of the girls I don't think anyone minds. I'll go back tonight and snap some photos.

I didn't think I could bring myself to walk into one of those window girls since there are TONS of tourists walking around. I've hobbied a ton of places around the world but this was totally different. The range of girls ranges from disgusting to gorgeous model quality. I kept walking by one girl that was HOT. She kept motioning for me to come over but there were always a ton of tourists by her. She kept laughing and waving me over. A HOT brunette from the Ukraine.

Even when I was on the other side of the canal she could scope me and would wave at me. This dude next to me was shocked when he was standing next to me and he noticed even from across the canal she kept motioning for me to come by. I finally did. Most of the girls seem like they charge the same. You see them flash a 5 sign with their hands signaling 50 Euros. The standard time seems to be 25 minutes as I could hear guys talking amonst themselves. I didn't talk to any other girls. The whole thing is surreal.

I made my way in and it was 50 Euros but I asked for 30 minutes and surprisingly she quickly agreed. I was expecting the worst after talking to my best friend who came here on business a few months ago. He said it was a totally rushed session. While I didn't get GFE she was surprisingly enthusiastic or a really good actress (probably the later but who cares). After about 25 minutes it was clear I was no where near to finishing and I asked her for another 30 minutes. Not sure if I was supposed to get a discount but I assumed another 50 Euros.

By the end of it I was exhausted. I walked home and was dead. I'll post more details about the beautiful city later. I'm taking a tour of the canals in about 10 minutes. I find most things here aren't terribly expensive compared to other cities in Europe but they aren't cheap either.

I took EasyJet for the first time from London Gatwick and be prepared for hefty fees if you go overweight. You are allowed 40 lbs. and no way in hell I can keep within that range for an 11 day trip through Europe. I paid $68 in penalties as they charge about $4 a lb over! The entire flight felt like an infomercial trying to sell you crap. Example: "Why not buy that special someone Chanel #5. It smells great and you know she deserves it...." and on and on and on. Thank God the flight was only 50 minutes. I just bought a train ticket to go to Paris tomorrow morning. Not cheap at $180 US for a first class ticket.

More later.

[Carnal1]

Whiz kid,

You are a little off in the pricing structure of Yab Yum. That is the most expensive place in Amsterdam. Sessions there will start in the hi 100 Euro Range with a 50-75 Euro Entrance fee. Most good sessions will run you well upwards of 300-500 Euro once you make it past all the "champagne" routines.

Park 118 is the best value in town, 75 E for an hour, a few more Euros if you want the larger room with a bath.

Vienna Massage would be your second best pricewise but has more girls working than Park 118 which can be hit or miss. There menu ranges from basic massage for about 50E to full on threesome for about 450 E with quite a few options inbetween.
Go for #7 which includes all the goodies for about 135 E/hr.

Those are just a couple, go to ignatzmice.com and check out the various club reviews.

[Whiz Kid]

Saint,

Here is a web site with all the listings of over 100 clubs in Amsterdam:

http://www.sex-world.nl/

Click on the "British" flag on top for English Version, then, click on "search", then, choose "Amsterdam".

For reasonable prices (40-70 Euro), try Yabyub, Milau, Kwikie, Admiral de Ruiterwe, Park 118, Amsterdam Prive, Ria's Mens Club, Asmara.

Before you go have a look at these websites on the RLD
1. Walletjes (http://www.ignatzmice.com/Adam/)
2. Amsterdam Hot Spots - Red Light Section (http://www.amsterdamhotspots.nl/)

Holland has some of nicest people you ever meet in your life.Last time I went ther I stayed at the Marriott and it's perfect for tourism. It's near liedesden plein, the museums, vondel park and half and hours walk from the RLD.

Here is a web site to learn about Amsterdam itself (it's Heritage! - it is very interesting to know)
http://www.bmz.amsterdam.nl/adam/index_e.html

Now, with regard to the trams and metro, and train:
http://www.bugeurope.com/amsterdam/ga.html

The city is so small you can walk it. Personally I have never used public transport, except to and fro the airport.

I am sure you'll have fun. Good hunting.

Whiz Kid

[Saint]

Freeler,

Yes, I did visit that site. I emailed directly from the link they had provided. (info@asmara.nl) There is no price listed on the site. Can anyone confirm their prices that has been there recently?

The trip was planned many months ago as I plan ahead and had a business meeting on the 5th so I will miss it. No worries though as I plan to have a "Liberation Day" of my own there. Ha, ha.

I just hope it's not raining the whole time like the weather forecasters say.

[Freeler]

Saint,

You seem to arrive one day late.
May 5 is LiberationDay and not to be missed!

Have you tried Asmara's website: http://www.asmara.nl/flash/eng/
(Turn down the volume: irritating music!)
Did you send the email to:
blabla@Bladot ->NL<-
Perhaps you made the very common mistake to send it to:
blabla@Bladot ->COM<- !

[Saint]

Hi guys. I'm hitting Amsterdam for the first time next week. I'm not really going to hobby but more sightsee and see the beautiful city. I'm sure I'll mess around though. Anyone going to be in Amsterdam May 6,7 or 8th? I'm staying at the Marriott Hotel near the Citycenter.

Saint

P.S. Anyone been to Asmara lately? How was the quality? What are the prices? I sent an email and it was returned back as undeliverable.

[Ram Boy]

I know this has probably been done several times before, but I will be visiting AMS again after a long absence (about 10 years). What is or the best hotel to stay in which are cheap (about £30)but clean and safe. Also must be near RDL area or easily reachable from the hotel.

I have gleaned some infomation from the experts in the Forum, but would like an-upto-date information. I will be there in May/June this year.

Thank you in advance.

[Rio Nut]

I was reading a regular ex-pat site for Holland, and the men seemed to be complaining bitterly about Dutch women being very cold and mean and hard to bed.

It sounded even worse than American women. I was wondering if anyone knows about the regular Dutch girls, and whether they are very snobby and not very easy to seduce.

Thank you.

[NY Buttman]

Rio nut,

In my opinion Dutch girls are one of the most beautiful girls I know. On my previous trip, I couldn't believe my eyes. They are all tall, skinny, fit, and beautiful. I spent the whole day sitting at outdoor cafe in Dam square, drinking beer and looking at the girls. Any one of them could've been a cover model from a magazine. Surely much better looking than most girls I see in US.

[Dignan]

Dutch Prostitution video documentary.

(this video documentary is available right now in the newsgroup alt.binaries.multimedia - here is the subject line :

Subject: A DIFFERENT fascinating look - "yEnc "The Dutch Showcase.nfo"

here is the supplied .nfo file with the movie.

btw: its not in english but it is subtited.

Description From linktv.org

The Dutch Showcase

A powerful documentary about legalized prostitution in Holland. What should be done about prostitution? We’re told it has always existed, that it is unavoidable. Society can consequently tolerate prostitution on the condition that it doesn’t become too obtrusive. Some say the solution is to legalize it, as Holland has done.

This film takes us to the very core of a system where the sale of the human body has become a business like any other. While the entrepreneurs’ profits soar, customers consume in total impunity and the State gets rich, the ‘sex laborers’ speak, but never show themselves. It is not enough to decree that prostitution is just a job like another to make it respectable. What justifies legalization? Should the Dutch example become a model for the European Union? This film removes all the masks, one by one. It shows us that beyond the majority view promoted by Holland, prostitution, even legalized, remains a form of slavery.