Amsterdam

[Boofer]

The small streets in Amsterdam near the "OLD CHURCH" is packed with real gems; much more beautiful women than the main streets.

Yet, any recomendations on strip clubs with rooms to shag the strippers???

What about bordelles? any downtown Amsterdam?

[Joecaddy]

Ok OzGuy, like I mentioned it’s presumable that they are in Amsterdam however as I said “I have never seen them”. Maybe due to the fact that if a girl is not looking so tasty to me the eyes never focus in on it, I meander off to the next till I see a real treat and get the best bang for the buck. Been around the block enough to know tell all signs of a chick w/dick. It’s pretty obvious to notice who’s packing a tool and even if they are post-op you have to be blind drunk and desperate to patron. I don’t doubt what you saw on your last morning in Adam, it could be that it was a show intentional for the viewer’s benefit and possibly the guy desired that, who knows. Maybe I am reading your sentence wrong OzGuy and if so no worries, however this is not my thing.

[OzGuy]

Joecaddy,

Mate I don't know where you were looking, these chicks with dicks are everywhere !!! .... on my recent trip to Amsterdam I would have seen maybe 15 or so just in the main RLD.

On the last morning I was there a small crowd had gathered around outside of one particular Kamer, when my friend and I got close enough to look in also there was a bit of show going ....
One of these she-males had a customer who's back was to the street so was oblivious to what was happening .... so, anyway when we looked in the customer was on his knees giving head to the he-she, and everyone was just standing around watching !!!

I guess if thats your thing so be it ..... but imagine so many other people also knowing thats your thing !!! ... mate trust me, they are there and they're everywhere .....

OzGuy.

[Joecaddy]

Amsterdam is one of my favorite European destinations. This November 2002 will be my third visit this year. Although my primary focus is smoke shops I do stray and visit the RLD being so close to the best coffee shop locations in Amsterdam. The numerous times my travels have taken me to Adam, I have never seen any chick’s w/dicks. There are some women that are not gorgeous and my very first time through Oude Kerksplein was a shock. First impression was, these girls are not to my taste however within no time I soon discovered the little ally’s that have attracted pleasure seekers for centuries. Within steps of Centraal Station you will find the Oude Kerksplein, the old church center. Between St.Annestraat and Pijlsteeg is where all the babes are, I have seen 7 to 10’s and have never had a bad experience. This last August to my enjoyment I met a beautiful Russian girl about 20 years old, flawless face and a body to match. After negotiating the fun soon started. To my surprise after a great hour of joy she kindly offered a cold bottle of water and we talked briefly before I scurried off to my next adventure. If you know Dutch or have a great resource for translation, try the newspaper De Telegraaf, http://www.telegraaf.nl
Years ago the girl working at the prostitution information center mentioned this paper has listings to many sexual services and its true. Maybe there are some chick’s w/dicks in Amsterdam, this could probably be said for anywhere prostitution could be found. Just keep your heads up guys and you should have a great time in Amsterdam.

[Banana61]

I have seen some really stunning post-op "girls" in Thailand - indeed good-looking should set your radar going. As November says check for large hands and adam's apple but remember that small hands & no AA is not a guarantee (both are variable and the latter can also be reduced surgically). I have not (knowingly) been fooled.

Asking first seems like a good policy: I'm sure a pre-op will not want the hassle when you discover an extra dick at the party. Response of a post-op is guesswork but I think most would tell you. In the worst case - if you can't tell the difference what does it matter? You have not chosen "her" for her ability to reproduce.

B61

[Travinguy]

I have partaken of many of the Thai girls in the red light district and haven't been fooled yet.

I wouldn't avoid all of them because there are a few tranny's out and about. I for one haven't had any problem figuring it out. If they're in a bikini, it's pretty hard to hide the "extra equipment"

I have found that over all the Thai girls give the best service at the most reasonable prices in the RLD. Most of them will give you more time and more affection than the European girls and most only look for 30 Euros. About half the Thai girls will give you a hug and a kiss after your dressed and before you leave. I've get to have any of the Eurpoean girls do the same.

Just pay attention and stay sober and you should have no problems.

[Ortos]

Just for your information, in the Walletjes (often referred to as the "main RLD") the greater part of Bloedstraat is notorious for it's TV/TS/Lady-Boy (whatever you want to call it!) offerings! November's advice about the Adam's Apple, larger-sized bodies and extremities are the conventional things to look for. If you are in doubt, ask!

[Bono]

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAIPAN.JUST CAME BACK FROM AMSTERDAM AFTER A THREE DAYS VISIT. YOU WILL FIND THEMOST ATTRACTIVE GIRLS IN THE AREA NEAR DAMSTRATT OR BEHIND THE HOTEL GRAND KRAPNAPOLSKY. IF YOU GO TOWARDS THE THAI SECTION YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF ATTRACTIVE GIRLS ,BUT MOST OF THEM GIRLS WHO USED TO BE BOYS I FOUND OUT THAT MOST OF THEM WERE VERY WIERD LOOKING SO I NEVER WENT IN.HOWEVER THERE ARE OTHER GIRLS ON THE WINDOWS INFRONT OF THE CANAL WHO ARE EXTREMELY GORGEOUS AND GOOD FUCK FOR YOUR MONEY.AVOID THE THAI AREAS BECAUSE BESIDES THE THAI GIRLS MOST OF THEM ARE BLACK MEN OR HISPANIC MEN WHO ARE NOW WOMEN. YOU CAN JUST ASK THEM AND THEY WILL TELL YOU,IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION JUST POST IT AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS I CAN

[November]

Incidently Patrick....some look like VERY hot girls at a glance. Look for things like an adams apple, larger hands and feet than the average girl or.....if in doubt....just ask them before you hand over the cash.

[November]

Patrick,

I can't give you the details other than to say that there are "Pre-Op" and "Post Op" ladyboys so I can assume that the latter have had their willy whacked (ouch!) and the area re-plumbed.

There are guys that intentionally seek out the services of either of the two preceding varieties so.....different strokes for different folks.

[Patrick]

Now I don’t wish to sound naive but just
what exactly is a lady-boy? Is it the same
as ‘chicks with dicks,’ or not? I know that
these people are fundamentally men who
have breast implants, but is that where it
stops, do they take drugs to make them
appear more feminine, but they still have a
cock down there? Finally whom do they appeal
to, and do they try to trick people and say
‘fuck me in the ass,’ and keep their cock
hidden somehow from the unsuspecting
client? I have heard tales about someone
who pays for a woman in Amsterdam, and it
tuned out to be a man, are they that realistic,
could someone be easily fooled, I would
appreciate any feedback.

[Thaipan]

Just back from Amsterdam, what a place I love it! But first of all another word of warning, there are more and more lady boys in the main RLD some Thai and some European so be warned, having been to Thailand I am fairly good at spotting them but I very very nearly got it dramatically wrong! Fortunately I managed to back out of the situation before it got down to the nitty gritty and even before I parted with any cash!

FR: I took advice from a couple of board members and tried a massage at Chiang Mai, the first time I went the massage was excellent even though the woman doing it was about a 3, she had good fingers and finished me off with a hand job, I went back the next evening for another massage and got a girl who aws about a 7, her massage while good was not as good as the first! But she did have a super pair of nice soft tits! Again finished with a hand job, but it was a bit off putting to see her donning rubber (disposable) gloves, though I must say her technique was 100% wonderful, for a place where they say "no sex here" as soon as you walk in the door, she kept me on the edge for a while, I almost had to beg her to let me cum!

I found the smaller Single rLD, it was right across the road from my hotel! However I didn't see anything that toom my fancy there and headed back to the main RLD after dinner and a few beers. I found a vert tasty looking Indonesian girl, yes this one was genuine and spent a very pleasant 30 minutes with her for €50.

All in all a good trip even if it was primarily for business!

Thaipan

[November]

Cirtey,

Thats a tough break. Its too bad when there are a small amount
of bad providers that tarnish the otherwise good experience of the RLD. In a situation like that where you have paid for your 15 minutes in paradise and it appears to be going south, Just let her finish, put your pants back on and leave. The customer is always going to lose out if the vibe gets bad and\or confrontational so its not worth the hassle. Just remember to get her name, description and location and broadcast it on this message board and on www.ignatzmice.com. A girl has every right to refuse service to anyone whether its a racist thing or not. However, they shouldn't be luring customers in and taking their money under one premise and delivering (or not delivering at all) something else. Ignatzmice recently had an extensive # of posts about a filipino window girl who was trying to strongarm customers with her "enforcer".

[OzGuy]

cirtey1,

Sorry to hear your story mate .... I have had only good experiences in Amsterdam as have many people I know as well as others on this board, you have to negotiate everything and I mean everything upfront before you hand over any money at all.
Even though these women are doing what they do for money they are still very choosy, and alot are downright racist, I saw so many women walk back from the window or ignore whenever Asian or Arabic guys walked by, and not only once or twice but many times .... but I hope you haven't given up, there are many stunning, sweet women there too ..... hope you try again someday.

OzGuy.

[cirtey1]

Hello Everybody, excuse my english but it is not my native language.
I want to report my i agression in the red light district of Amsterdam.
It was in 2001, queen day, 2 am.
I went to a prostitute, turkish one I think. It was close to the channel, Taapvergunning straat close to the sailors rest. She was black haired, 1m60, 50 kg like.
I asked her for having sex only, not sucking, for 100 guilders, she agreed with a friendly smile.
Once I entered the room and I paid cash, she changed attitude.
She ordered me to take off my pant only an lay down. I asked why I can't take off the t-shirt she responded "because".
She put a candom and started sucking, I said I don't want sucking, and stopped her gently. She said there's no fucking in RLD, only sucking, and refused. I said that it was not what we agreed, so she replied that she decide, and now I have to go home. I said give me back my money, she immediately pressed a button under her table and 1 minute later 2 guys entered, 1 of them had a knife and blocked the door, the other one punched me on the nose 2 times, I didn't react because I was too scared.
I started bledding so I soiled the floor, he gave me a towel and orderd me to clean it, I obeid.
They then let me go out. I immediately went to the police station, with the blood on my t-shirt. I explained the situtation so they send me back there with a patrol. The chief of the police crew talked to the window girl 2 minutes in dutch, then went back and asked me if I have eye witnesses, I said no, so he replied that he can't nothing, and that I can go back to my hotel.
The day after I went to the police station and I reported, 1 year later now, there's no result. And I know now that the *****s have a private camera system that they use for protection and in order to produce evidences in case of of problem with a client. But the client do not have nothing to prove anythong turned wrong.