Amsterdam

**Hawkjock** · 11-14-23 17:48

Asmara. My map software said it is permanently closed. I was in the area, swung by, and it appears to be locked up. Their website is still active and there is a review as of a couple weeks ago. But, for now, it appears to be closed.

**Hawkjock** · 11-13-23 21:14

Originally Posted by DJHeywood [View Original Post]

Awful. Delta has a KLM partnership and also flies thru JFK, more competition would have helped the absurd prices. I imagine KLM / Delta partnership encouraged government interference.

Delta and KLM are losing slots as well. If you think this is bad, go look at what the government is doing to the farmers that raise methane gas producing meat products. The scale has been tipped.

Anyway. A frequent traveler to Amsterdam and first time visitor to Park118. Mind you, I had my bachelor party in Amsterdam 30 years ago and 13 of us raised all kinds of hell in the RLD. Park118 is totally different. If you want to go cheap, negotiate, and "smash" the RLD is for you. Park118 is private. It isn't cheap. It is super clean. The girls may or may not want to spend time with you (especially if you're and ass,) etc. I'the not go to Park 118 for 30 or even 45 min. Go there to have fun, meet someone, laugh, make a connection, fill a bag, and leave wanting to go back. Otherwise the RLD is there and always ready to meet your needs.

**Mogwai** · 11-12-23 08:07

Originally Posted by DJHeywood [View Original Post]

Awful. Delta has a KLM partnership and also flies thru JFK, more competition would have helped the absurd prices. I imagine KLM / Delta partnership encouraged government interference.

It has nothing to do with the KLM / Delta partnership. Amsterdam Airport has become too big over the years, and is causing too much noise disturbance and air pollution with its five runways, in a densely populated area. So that's why they have to bring down the number of flight movements from 500.000 to 460.000 a year, starting April 2024. And eventually the government wants to bring it down to 452.500 movements.

**DJHeywood** · 11-08-23 03:48

Originally Posted by Smuler [View Original Post]

The government of the Netherlands has cancelled the JetBlue plans to go to Amsterdam long term from JFK FYI .

Best Regards.

Awful. Delta has a KLM partnership and also flies thru JFK, more competition would have helped the absurd prices. I imagine KLM / Delta partnership encouraged government interference.

**Mogwai** · 11-06-23 06:38

Originally Posted by BobNSuzy [View Original Post]

I actually do realize he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving but he does arrive by boat near Thanksgiving time in the USA every year in Amsterdam at the Central Station. Is Sinterklass not Santa Class in English? He looks a lot like him. I've seen him a couple of times.

The name Santa Clause is most likely coming from 'Sinterklaas'.
However, we call Santa Clause 'de kerstman', which literally means the Christmas man.

https://www.iamsterdam.com/en/whats-...-v-santa-claus

**Smuler** · 11-05-23 16:17

The government of the Netherlands has cancelled the JetBlue plans to go to Amsterdam long term from JFK FYI .

Best Regards.

**BobNSuzy** · 11-05-23 15:51

Originally Posted by BobNSuzy [View Original Post]

I actually do realize he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving but he does arrive by boat near Thanksgiving time in the USA every year in Amsterdam at the Central Station. Is Sinterklass not Santa Class in English? He looks a lot like him. I've seen him a couple of times.

Feel free to disregard my question. I think I understand how my previous statement could have sounded. I like seeing things that are slightly different when traveling and may exaggerate them for my enjoyment of it.

**BobNSuzy** · 11-05-23 14:43

Originally Posted by Mogwai [View Original Post]

I suppose you mean Sinterklaas, instead of Santa Claus, but he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.

I actually do realize he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving but he does arrive by boat near Thanksgiving time in the USA every year in Amsterdam at the Central Station. Is Sinterklass not Santa Class in English? He looks a lot like him. I've seen him a couple of times.

**Mogwai** · 11-05-23 07:12

Originally Posted by BobNSuzy [View Original Post]

You also get to see Santa Claus arrive by boat for Thanksgiving. I'm not joking. He actually does that in Amsterdam. There is a big crowd for that. It is kinda fun.

I suppose you mean Sinterklaas, instead of Santa Claus, but he has nothing to do with Thanksgiving.

**DJHeywood** · 11-04-23 19:09

Originally Posted by BobNSuzy [View Original Post]

You also get to see Santa Claus arrive by boat for Thanksgiving. I'm not joking. He actually does that in Amsterdam. There is a big crowd for that. It is kinda fun. I have gotten a little too old for the mechanical Amsterdam RLD but it used to be fun.

That's a good price for Frankfurt, unfortunately I fly from a hub monopoly. The window girls are like fast food McDonald's, definitely not intimate or best service. But for my high libido & being able to choose live its still serviceable (I hope) for me. Plus the general vibe of AMS I like, chill / space cakes / and potential to visit Antwerp Häag Alkmaar Harlem for a day.

**BobNSuzy** · 11-04-23 15:01

Originally Posted by DJHeywood [View Original Post]

Yes, I preferred Frankfurt but AMS dropped to sub $650 where Frankfurt still $1400 for me. Plus I can use my miles for a "free" AMS flight. Frankfurt is definitely on my target but I'm desperate to use Thanksgiving weekend since there's no other cheap favorite route. The window yes were very corporate and cold mostly. I'm more confident for this 3rd visit and I believe the tourists are less than summer, but girls still there.

You also get to see Santa Claus arrive by boat for Thanksgiving. I'm not joking. He actually does that in Amsterdam. There is a big crowd for that. It is kinda fun. I have gotten a little too old for the mechanical Amsterdam RLD but it used to be fun.

**BobNSuzy** · 11-04-23 14:53

Originally Posted by DJHeywood [View Original Post]

Yes, I preferred Frankfurt but AMS dropped to sub $650 where Frankfurt still $1400 for me. Plus I can use my miles for a "free" AMS flight. Frankfurt is definitely on my target but I'm desperate to use Thanksgiving weekend since there's no other cheap favorite route. The window yes were very corporate and cold mostly. I'm more confident for this 3rd visit and I believe the tourists are less than summer, but girls still there.

Two nights ago I was looking at $525 to Frankfurt for late November.

**DJHeywood** · 11-04-23 05:23

Originally Posted by BobNSuzy [View Original Post]

The flights are also surprisingly cheap to Germany at least in the time frame I looked at recently. That is less corporate and better value.

Yes, I preferred Frankfurt but AMS dropped to sub $650 where Frankfurt still $1400 for me. Plus I can use my miles for a "free" AMS flight. Frankfurt is definitely on my target but I'm desperate to use Thanksgiving weekend since there's no other cheap favorite route. The window yes were very corporate and cold mostly. I'm more confident for this 3rd visit and I believe the tourists are less than summer, but girls still there.

**BobNSuzy** · 11-04-23 04:54

Originally Posted by DJHeywood [View Original Post]

Looking at 3 day trip in Nov since there's a suprisingly cheap direct flight from me from east coast. Hows the RLD these days?

My reference was last year, last July '22 was most recent. Never experience the pre Covid heyday, but I still had a fun time on the Oederkirk? Canal loop, from the silver bridge all the way north 3 blocks. As well as the 2 west alleys and 2 east alleys (except the tranny one LOL). There was tourist forced paths, but I didn't care because it was not there during day visits, and after 12:30 pm-1 am it calmed down. Plus I don't care about strangers. I remember at least 15 girls being worth a look with 3 of them being knockouts. Being more experienced I feel like I have more confidence plus the time to enjoy.

Also I have to look up again there's another RLD outside of AMS that's a day trip and may be less corporate and more value?

The flights are also surprisingly cheap to Germany at least in the time frame I looked at recently. That is less corporate and better value.

**DJHeywood** · 11-04-23 04:29

Looking at 3 day trip in Nov since there's a suprisingly cheap direct flight from me from east coast. Hows the RLD these days?

My reference was last year, last July '22 was most recent. Never experience the pre Covid heyday, but I still had a fun time on the Oederkirk? Canal loop, from the silver bridge all the way north 3 blocks. As well as the 2 west alleys and 2 east alleys (except the tranny one LOL). There was tourist forced paths, but I didn't care because it was not there during day visits, and after 12:30 pm-1 am it calmed down. Plus I don't care about strangers. I remember at least 15 girls being worth a look with 3 of them being knockouts. Being more experienced I feel like I have more confidence plus the time to enjoy.

Also I have to look up again there's another RLD outside of AMS that's a day trip and may be less corporate and more value?

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