Warsaw

[Ken_Apples]

My reasoning here is that the unreliability of Odloty is by now a well established fact. Warsaw seems to be lacking the kind of mongering culture found in Germany and UK.
The one place I have found to be reliable, lacks reliable business. I simply cannot reconcile these facts.

The sad part is that if LMR vanishes from the scene, that also means that Warsaw becomes a completely dead destination as far as I'm concerned.
I've spent a fair bit of time during previous parties, speaking with the hosts of LMR, asking them why they are not more popular on a scene that seems riddled with bad offers.

They could offer me no good answer.

Therefor I put it to you, fellow punters in Warsaw;.

* If you've been to an LMR party. Why wouldn't you go back?

* If you haven't been. Why not?

* Assuming it isn't, why isn't LMR your first choice for mongering in Warsaw?

Thomas, thanks for a good report on the general state of P4 P in Warsaw 2015.

As you write yourself, Warsaw has tough competition from Germany and other destinations. And trying to see this from the girls point of view:

When her girlfriends tell her about how much money they make in London, Dubai or even Thailand, I for sure can understand that the talent make the short flight to better working conditions.

But then we have the girls that maybe have babies / families or a "normal" job, that wants to make a little cash on the side, - they will probably still be found in Warsaw.

Maybe this is the profile of the ladies working at LMR?

Just wildguessing here, the lack of reports on the LMR events (from qualified, senior members. Not people with 1 post under their belt) leads to questions.

The 475 zloty /4 hour deal, should be a great deal, especially if your where only 2 persons. (compare to the overcrowded London or Berlin alternatives).

I would personally bite, and go for it, if there where more detalied reports, from more senior members.

So Thomas, lead the crowds by example and write a more detailed report on LMR, and hopefully more will follow.

OfficeMatt, Please also write a report on the event if yo go.

I am occupied for the next months, so I will not be able to do it myself before summer.

But if value is to be had, and it's not overcrowded, this sounds like an excellent option.

Maybe just needs more detalied tripreports here, and on other forums?

Surely there must be ladies in Warsaw that would be interested in making money on the side, in a such "hidden" way as these types of parties is.

Maybe if the demand is there (more customers) the LMR will also be able to attract more girls on their end.

Heck, we could even be setting up our own private LMR-ISG parties with 8-10 participants on our behalf. Sounds like fun times! .

(With 5000 Zloty in the bin, LMR should / would be able to find 3-4 really good looking local girls for a comfortable 4 hour in-house event.).

Seems like a situation where everybody wins, and it all starts with some honest, good tripreports from senior members.

Greetings, Ken Apples.

[OfficeMatt]

Well, I am going to be in Warsaw for some of the flesh trade in May and it sounds like that aspect of the trip will be a disappointment. That being said, I will try out LMR.

Also wondering if you checked the reviews posted per girl, vs those ads that had nothing?

[ThomasNorway]

I find myself wondering why we are complaining about the unreliability of Odloty girls and ads on this thread. I was in Warsaw for three days myself last week, and had intended to spend most of my time at LMR parties, but sadly this is not how it turned out. Due to a severe lack of reservations, only a single LMR party actually happened, and that one party was all to the benefit of myself and a single other guest. That was also the only thing happening on my trip that didn't leave me completely blue balled.

I had compiled a list of leads on Odloty, based on favorable Garsoniera reviews. This is how it turned out.

First attempt was the ad of a red haired girl that I had saved from Odloty and written down the phone number for. As it were, the ad was deactivated and nobody picked up when I called. Fair enough.

Next was at an Odloty ad where the girl directed me to Chmielna 98. It was a bit of a hike to get there and by the time I finally found the apartment and pressed the bell, the girl announced over the intercom that she was busy but I could come back in 40 minutes. I decided not to.

Club Aisha is described on Garsoneira as the best establishment of it's kind and I decided to look into it. Essentially it is the kind of place where you show up, and the ladies working line up against the far wall of the room so you can make your choice. Beyond the general awkwardness of the situation, none of the girls looked particularly attractive, so I decided to run and call it a night.

Second day of my stay actually had a small LMR party, so I decided to count that as a win and call it a day while I was still ahead.

Third day I decided to look into a second club, this time on Nowagrodzka. Also a well known location on Garsoniera, but not as good a reputation. I went there on the off chance that they actually used real pictures in their ads, and there was a picture of a girl I really wanted to see. I found the place fairly easily, and the setup was much the same as Aisha. The three girls presented were of such an appearance that in all honesty they should have paid me to have sex with them; not the other way around. Neither of them knew the girl in the picture (which I had brought on my phone with me).

Finally I decided to try two more Odloty ads. The closest one was an address on Jana Pawla, and had a pleasant sounding girl picking up when I called. I went to the place and after a bit of struggling I found the correct door. I was let into the apartment by someone I assumed was a madam. Much to my dismay, it turned out she was the "girl" on offer. The description that pops to mind would be ogre. I tried to smile and showed her the picture from the ad, to which she replied "one moment" and took off. I waited for a few minutes and somebody else showed up. I realize that fake pics are in use. I realize they lie about age. I also realize that when I call the ad of a 20 year old redhead, and they try to fix me up with a 50 year old brunette, they're just insulting my intelligence. I left. By then I was so frustrated I just decided to leave the second as well enough alone and went out for dinner instead.

My reasoning here is that the unreliability of Odloty is by now a well established fact. Warsaw seems to be lacking the kind of mongering culture found in Germany and UK. The one place I have found to be reliable, lacks reliable business. I simply cannot reconcile these facts. The sad part is that if LMR vanishes from the scene, that also means that Warsaw becomes a completely dead destination as far as I'm concerned. I've spent a fair bit of time during previous parties, speaking with the hosts of LMR, asking them why they are not more popular on a scene that seems riddled with bad offers. They could offer me no good answer.

Therefor I put it to you, fellow punters in Warsaw;.

* If you've been to an LMR party. Why wouldn't you go back?

* If you haven't been. Why not?

* Assuming it isn't, why isn't LMR your first choice for mongering in Warsaw?

My interest in all of this is of course selfish. Without clients, there will be no LMR. Without LMR, I will be left with no decent options when I'm in Warsaw. So in short; help me save my favorite Warsaw establishment by helping them become your favorite establishment. Otherwise stop complaining you can't find good girls in this damn city!

[Frenchieboy]

No one directly responded to my previous questions about massages.

Another question. I have been trying to read garsoniera with not much success, but in some the massage reports I see the term FBG.

What is FBG?

Cheers.

Rick.

That means francuski bez gumki it is OWO in english.

[Diet Coke]

No one directly responded to my previous questions about massages.

Another question. I have been trying to read garsoniera with not much success, but in some the massage reports I see the term FBG.

What is FBG?

Cheers.

Rick.

[Tedesco]

.... I came to the conclusion that I can only trust Garsoniera site .....

Last but not least it's only you in whom you can trust, because opions ot other board members, doesn't depend on which board you're using, are individual experiences. Some girls may be recommended, but that doesn't mean that you must have a super performance show when being there. Since I'm visiting German FKK clubs I know a good number of fellows. And there are some who will be fond of a girl. And when I already know that she will not be mine.

I always recommend: when having a some time to prepare your stay in Warsaw, scroll through the announcements on odloty, roksa. Make a re-check with garsoniera (I never used it within the last years) if you think it's worth, but better make a telephone call and a try going there. Xheck it out yourself. You spend 200-25 zlt / hour, that's ok. I know there are two women recommended asking for 350-400 zlt / hour. It's above average, but depends whereever you are coming from. When being only some days in Warsaw don't save money in a wrong way.

.... but nothing arrived after 5 days!....

Patience.

[SaintSeiya]

Thanks.

I had seen those WG outside the casino on Friday too, but yes, too mid aged for me so give it up!

On the next day call a girl from Odloty, but image is 50% fake! Ask for a BJ then close the deal!

On Sat night, I saw those mid aged WG also in the 40th floor bar! Asked for the price by curiosity that 700 zolt for 1 hour!

Hope they can have more business from others but definitely not by me, haha!

Left Poland already, will back in some months later!

A few updates.

Especially on Friday night there were a few WGs sitting on the tables outside the casino, mostly middle aged and not very attractive though.

I also tried mero massage finally, if you are staying at Marriott it is just a few minutes away from the hotel.

I was greeted by two girls but been told there are about eight girls.

Clean place, nice massage, pretty girls, decent HJ, best 140 ziloty I spent in Warsaw so far.

[Bucheta]

A few updates.

Especially on Friday night there were a few WGs sitting on the tables outside the casino, mostly middle aged and not very attractive though.

I also tried mero massage finally, if you are staying at Marriott it is just a few minutes away from the hotel.

I was greeted by two girls but been told there are about eight girls.

Clean place, nice massage, pretty girls, decent HJ, best 140 ziloty I spent in Warsaw so far.

I will try to see see if any WG tonight in lobby bar / casino or 40th bar as well.

[SaintSeiya]

I will try to see see if any WG tonight in lobby bar / casino or 40th bar as well.

I am also staying at Marriott, checked the roof bar a few times during my stays but never encountered any WG there, neither at the casino or lobby area.

[Bucheta]

I am also staying at Marriott, checked the roof bar a few times during my stays but never encountered any WG there, neither at the casino or lobby area.

Did you find any ladies at the pub on the top floor? I was there about 5 years ago and there was a really beautiful woman working there -- although she was about 40 so not young -- but also she wanted something like 600 zloty, so I thought she was too expensive.

[Letni]

Currently in Marriot, but it's definitely GF hotel!

Need to have key card for the lift!

Anyway, just for you guys reference!

Yet, any recommendation near this area, dear all brothers?

Would prefer to bring some girls to my room but could also try different way or massage!

Thanks!

Did you find any ladies at the pub on the top floor? I was there about 5 years ago and there was a really beautiful woman working there -- although she was about 40 so not young -- but also she wanted something like 600 zloty, so I thought she was too expensive.

[SaintSeiya]

Currently in Marriot, but it's definitely NOT GF hotel!

Need to have key card for the lift!

Anyway, just for you guys reference!

Yet, any recommendation near this area, dear all brothers?

Would prefer to bring some girls to my room but could also try different way or massage!

Thanks!

[Diet Coke]

I looked at the above website and saw a number of different massage types available. Can anyone explain what to usually expect at this or other places. List prices usually between 120-200 for an hour.

What is common service?

Nude girl?

Touch okay on girl?

HJ ending included?

BJ ending included?

Extra fees for HJ or BJ?

I looked at a number of massage sites but am unclear what to expect.

I will be in Warsaw for first time in a month.

Questions are for anyone with knowledge of above. Thanks.

Rick.

[Frenchieboy]

I looked at the above website and saw a number of different massage types available. Can anyone explain what to usually expect at this or other places. List prices usually between 120-200 for an hour.

What is common service?

Nude girl?

Touch okay on girl?

HJ ending included?

BJ ending included?

Extra fees for HJ or BJ?

I looked at a number of massage sites but am unclear what to expect.

I will be in Warsaw for first time in a month.

Was many times in Mero Massage.

Common service: massage of course with oil!

Nude girls: no bra for sure but you can ask them for without panty sometimes yes sometimes no.

Touch: yes a little but of course no kisses.

HJ yes no extras.

BJ yes but not all girls but extras service about 60 pln.

Resume: you pay 140 pln for drinks shower (before and after) massage (less than 1 hour), HJ for 140 pln and + 60 pln more for BJ.

[Bucheta]

Thanks for the tips Thomas.

I might actually give it a try tomorrow or Friday evening, especially whichever night the tall slim brunette (Leila I guess) is available, as you can see I still stick to my expectations.

Lets keep in touch!

According to what I read on Garsoniera, most establishments (bordellos etc.) have shit reviews and are not reccommended. Using Odloty along with Garsoniera you should be able to track down a fair few apartments shared by some girls, but everything points towards staying away from the larger clubs. This procedure would also probably be your best bet if you're looking for a specific type of girl (skinny / tall / haircolor etc.). Fake pictures is always a problem in this regard though, and there are never any guarantees before the door is opened and she's standing in front of you.

For massage / sex combo, I've heard good things about Mero http://www.mero.waw.pl/eng/ but haven't tried it myself.

No need for masks at LMR. Generally there are not *that* many people present, and there are absolutely no cameras allowed. It's an extremely laid back atmosphere. I'm going to be there for the next three days. Don't know how many parties, but let me know if you want to join and we'll coordinate.