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  1. #4838
    I'll be more specific here. I'm aware of three hourly rate "love motels," and all of them are in the exurbs. All of them are far enough out of the city that EP girls want travel money. Those look nice or very nice, but the minimum charge is for three or four hours, so the Uber + room + travel money for the girls will absolutely cost more than the Star Inn by the airport. Plus the inconvenience and lost travel time. I really think that is barking up the wrong tree, but EP may have workable solutions.

    I just think you need to also treat your time as a commodity. Don't do stuff that unnecessarily whittles down your six hours. You may need them.

    In Lisbon proper, the only hourly rate place I'm aware of is so seedy that I can only say "don't go there. " I feel strongly enough about it to refuse identification. And again, what is one really saving by taking an Uber back and forth from a bedbug-ridden flophouse in downtown Lisbon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Lisbon has short-time motels, which is how locals access EP.

    Just ask EP for a recommendation regarding hotels. Send your WhatsApp message to Joanna's number. It is okay to do so in English. When Joanna is not personally monitoring her phone, the assistant that helps her is the most responsive. The advantage of a group like EP is that there are multiple ladies they can send if someone flakes.

    https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

    For independents with a current ad who have great reviews and a history of being professional and diligent, this independent is one of the least likely to flake on you if you need an exact time for an appointment.

    https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

    Six hours is a short time frame. Some have had great luck going to the Nuru Spa (try to call or WhatsApp them before hand and explain your situation and request the Relaxing Massage). Don't be too explicit regarding sex. Most appear to do BBBJ and CFS but technically they are not allowed to do so in a licensed massage parlor, so be discreet in communicating.

    https://www.nuruspas.com/en/sobre

  2. #4837
    Quote Originally Posted by AkSmith  [View Original Post]
    This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.

    Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!
    Yes, Lisbon has short-time motels, which is how locals access EP.

    Just ask EP for a recommendation regarding hotels. Send your WhatsApp message to Joanna's number. It is okay to do so in English. When Joanna is not personally monitoring her phone, the assistant that helps her is the most responsive. The advantage of a group like EP is that there are multiple ladies they can send if someone flakes.

    https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/

    For independents with a current ad who have great reviews and a history of being professional and diligent, this independent is one of the least likely to flake on you if you need an exact time for an appointment.

    https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

    Six hours is a short time frame. Some have had great luck going to the Nuru Spa (try to call or WhatsApp them before hand and explain your situation and request the Relaxing Massage). Don't be too explicit regarding sex. Most appear to do BBBJ and CFS but technically they are not allowed to do so in a licensed massage parlor, so be discreet in communicating.

    https://www.nuruspas.com/en/sobre

  3. #4836
    Quote Originally Posted by AkSmith  [View Original Post]
    This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.

    Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!
    1) Call outcall-only escorts. Right now that means the Escort Privada girls and Catia Bom.

    You don't want to bother with asking a primarily incall lady to do this, because the mark-up is steep and the chance she'll flake on you is higher.

    2) You have a narrow window. Ask for appointments the day before. Most escorts are happy to take a booking one day in advance.

    Unless your hotel is down by Entrecampos, Saldanha or Expo, I wouldn't bother with incall. Six hours... assuming time for a little rest, getting cleaned up, taking in a meal... you don't have much left for finding a house and getting in a good f*ck. The Uber/Taxi to and from the airport alone could chew up 40+ minutes. It's hemmed in and could be hectic UNLESS you can already walk there in like 10 minutes.

    As for a low cost hotel, check the Star Inn. It's within walking distance of the airport, and the rate there is usually pretty low. Don't worry about hourly. Just get it and enjoy having the space to unwind in for several hours. The places that do charge hourly... well, the better ones are pretty far from the airport. The time and hassle might not be worth saving like 40 euros.

    The elevator there is locked, but that only means you'll meet your company in the lobby. That is a common condition of these things. No one will bother you.

  4. #4835

    Looking for advice on short term hotel for outcall

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy  [View Original Post]
    Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.

    After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore. Since you can't guarantee that a specific girl will be available on a specific day, I created a long list with backup options. Most of the action in Lisbon (and Portugal in general) is independent escorts that advertise on two primary websites, Escort Privada and Apartadox. The girls on Escort Privada go to your hotel and charge 150 Euros per hour which usually includes DFK and BBBJ / CIM. The girls on Apartadox are a little cheaper at 120 Euros per hour and work out of "trick pads" or their own apartment. The Apartadox girls seem to have a shorter workday, often ending by 6 pm. That makes daytime tourism activities more difficult. Most Escort Privada girls were able to come to my hotel at 8 pm for 2 hours, which worked better with my schedule..
    This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.

    Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!

  5. #4834
    Quote Originally Posted by ExExpatriate  [View Original Post]
    To that I would also add the legalization of the sex work, while leaving pimping / brothels illegal.
    Sex work was not and is not legal or illegal. It is in a comfortably grey area where girls are free to work. Brothel owners and pimping are illegal.

  6. #4833
    Quote Originally Posted by ExExpatriate  [View Original Post]
    I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.
    Yes, I was talking about Lisbon, the city itself. It still exists - even if less and less - along some roads nearing the larger towns.

  7. #4832
    Quote Originally Posted by RedIce7  [View Original Post]
    It died out because of internet. Before internet era girls had to actually go look for customers, now customers find them through online ads and WP. It's safer and more discrete and I like it more this way because street walkers would attract pimps and other shady individuals. If someone wants to see girl actually before you can go to brothels pretending to be massage spas, city center is filled with them. It allows the business to operate in higher-end areas of the city (like Saldanha) or residential buildings and attract customers that want to discrete.
    To that I would also add the legalization of the sex work, while leaving pimping / brothels illegal. While there are many fictions for working around this, it still leaves plenty of safe space for independents to operate without fear of being harassed by organized crime.

  8. #4831
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Portugal seems to either forcibly detract, or not be desirable to, the lowest rung of the scene. It does not have the Asian massage places where the women live and work at the facility, eating their meals from a portable hot stove, just as it doesn't get Roma streetwalkers to join the last ranks of the few drug-addicted women still on the streets. I don't know if the relatively low Portugal price of a mid-to-upper level sex worker (compared to the rest of Europe and the Western World) simply makes Portugal of no interest to dirt poor Asian ladies and the gypsies, or if Portugal Vice has a way of shutting it down that isn't publicized.
    It died out because of internet. Before internet era girls had to actually go look for customers, now customers find them through online ads and WP. It's safer and more discrete and I like it more this way because street walkers would attract pimps and other shady individuals. If someone wants to see girl actually before you can go to brothels pretending to be massage spas, city center is filled with them. It allows the business to operate in higher-end areas of the city (like Saldanha) or residential buildings and attract customers that want to discrete.

  9. #4830
    Quote Originally Posted by ExExpatriate  [View Original Post]
    I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.

    I know it was alive and well a decade ago. Although I have always disdained that sort of thing, I would cross a major SW area on my way home. It was hard to miss. I also remember seeing these SW hanging out in front of isolated back roads in different areas, places one would cross when going to the more remote beaches. So clearly the locals knew where to go look for them.
    It is disappearing worldwide, thank god.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/why...S6G64YROT65N4/

    I can't think of an advantage to its existence for anyone, particularly the sex workers.

    Where it still appears to exist in Europe are places where there are women who simply have no resources at all, not even the funds to take out an advertisement and accept appointments on a smart phone. Of course some seed capital is necessary for incall or transportation to outcall.

    Portugal seems to either forcibly detract, or not be desirable to, the lowest rung of the scene. It does not have the Asian massage places where the women live and work at the facility, eating their meals from a portable hot stove, just as it doesn't get Roma streetwalkers to join the last ranks of the few drug-addicted women still on the streets. I don't know if the relatively low Portugal price of a mid-to-upper level sex worker (compared to the rest of Europe and the Western World) simply makes Portugal of no interest to dirt poor Asian ladies and the gypsies, or if Portugal Vice has a way of shutting it down that isn't publicized.

  10. #4829
    I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.

    I know it was alive and well a decade ago. Although I have always disdained that sort of thing, I would cross a major SW area on my way home. It was hard to miss. I also remember seeing these SW hanging out in front of isolated back roads in different areas, places one would cross when going to the more remote beaches. So clearly the locals knew where to go look for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by KamaLeo  [View Original Post]
    But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".

  11. #4828
    Quote Originally Posted by KamaLeo  [View Original Post]
    But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".
    That's bad news for the lovers of the street scene but good news for the girls, all in total a good reason to be happy. Still astonishing that it happened. What is special with Lisbon that they managed to achieve what many other large cities did not achieve? But this is going off topic now.

  12. #4827
    Quote Originally Posted by Stradivari  [View Original Post]
    I was trying the area of Martim Moniz and Intendente three times at around 7 pm, 9:30 pm and around midnight. No WG to be seen except some very sincere drug users at a bus stop called "Socorro" / Rua the Mouraria. I walked some 100 ft down the are. Dos Cavaleiros but I started feeling unsecure and turned around.

    I cannot imagine that a huge city like lisbon has nothing more than the escort scene but I did not discover it. And, in fact, I did very well with the escorts I tried, at least with Bela Soares.
    But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".

  13. #4826
    Cheers mate.

    Will try my luck and report back with anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stirling  [View Original Post]
    Hi JohnDOO, I had a quick look on SA and the profiles of the ladies I saw are currently not there. I suspect they only reactivate them when they're looking for a date.

    Stirling.

  14. #4825

    No street workers found in Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Koki9290  [View Original Post]
    I was wandering around the area east of Martim Monz last night around 10 pm and saw no streetwalkers. Lots of guys in the streets hanging out and drinking but no action that I could discern. I'll check out Eduardo VII, Rua do Conde de Redonde and Anjos in the next couple of days because I'm staying nearby. Mansanto Forest is huge and wouldn't know where to begin.
    I was trying the area of Martim Moniz and Intendente three times at around 7 pm, 9:30 pm and around midnight. No WG to be seen except some very sincere drug users at a bus stop called "Socorro" / Rua the Mouraria. I walked some 100 ft down the are. Dos Cavaleiros but I started feeling unsecure and turned around.

    I cannot imagine that a huge city like lisbon has nothing more than the escort scene but I did not discover it. And, in fact, I did very well with the escorts I tried, at least with Bela Soares.

  15. #4824

    Sa

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD00  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for additional comments Stirling.

    I've seen on the other countries / locations boards that the guys were sharing the links of the SA ladies.

    Don't know if that is allowed over here. But would you be willing to share the ones you got lucky with?

    At 250 for overnight. It does really make it worthwhile.

    As it stands. I might be going towards the mixed route of trying SA + the vetted ladies from EP already posted over here.

    Cheers to all again.
    Hi JohnDOO, I had a quick look on SA and the profiles of the ladies I saw are currently not there. I suspect they only reactivate them when they're looking for a date.

    Stirling.

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