Lisbon

[Mongerer88]

Got to try these 2 ladies and I must say, I wasn't disappointed at all.

Unrushed service, hot sex and cool vibes.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...a-Sanchez-2320

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...-Bernardi-3753

Cool. Thank you very much for the feedback.

Eva is of course very well reviewed.

Tati Bernard gets mostly all great reviews with the occasional complaint that she was too quiet to suit the reviewer.

Personally, I like quiet girls.

But can you let us know Tati's level of English fluency?

And to keep everyone updated, Rebeca Diniz just keeps getting new 9's and 10's out of 10 reviews every week from experienced reviewers on the local board.

Lisbon just has so many great ladies to see.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...eca-Diniz-6364

[Lemonjack]

Got to try these 2 ladies and I must say, I wasn't disappointed at all.

Unrushed service, hot sex and cool vibes.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...a-Sanchez-2320

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...-Bernardi-3753

[Emeli67]

Dear Mongerer88.

Thank you a lot, it is very pleasant that you rember my question after some time. In my next trip to Lisbon I will try both Sandra Vilanova e Rebeca Diniz. The performances of Rebeca, described in the local board, looks very similar to those of the unforgettable Lila.

Best regards to all of you.

Keep an eye on this lady's reviews.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...-Vilanova-7232

Sandra got an 8. 5 out of 10 (he didn't fill out the review form correctly) and he really liked her. He is a reviewer who is usually satisfied, but there is nothing wrong with that.

BBBJ, and most importantly the reviewer said this: "she's a beautiful woman. Tall, slender and fit Angolan, with beautiful legs, which it was great to be among."

Sandra apparently does not offer anal sex.

But other than that, she sounds a lot like your beloved Lila. Maybe she us your replacement for Lila.

[Mongerer88]

Dear Mongerer88,

Do you think she is at the same (very hight) level of the unforgettable Lila? (the espectacular south african girl retired two years ago).

Best regards.

Keep an eye on this lady's reviews.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...-Vilanova-7232

Sandra got an 8. 5 out of 10 (he didn't fill out the review form correctly) and he really liked her. He is a reviewer who is usually satisfied, but there is nothing wrong with that.

BBBJ, and most importantly the reviewer said this: "she's a beautiful woman. Tall, slender and fit Angolan, with beautiful legs, which it was great to be among."

Sandra apparently does not offer anal sex.

But other than that, she sounds a lot like your beloved Lila. Maybe she us your replacement for Lila.

[ExExpatriate]

I'm glad you got to pay Isis a visit!

Yes, I hear you. My experience with Portugal is that FIP is unusual in general, and rare for the non-FS massagista crowd. Even for an outright escort, about half the time they don't want to be fingered. It's part of their hygiene culture.

So for non-FS massagistas, limiting the time you have contact with her P is a routine management strategy. You get to touch, but less opportunity to do something she doesn't want you doing. Anyone should be able to see how for a lady doing that job 2 to 4 times a day, 5 times a week, a step like that is necessary.

Also, my experience with her was that I got the full 60+ on the mat, not including shower time. It's pretty normal to take one shower or the other out of the time spent, though. Sometimes how these things work out depends a lot on if another customer is coming right after you.

But the other side of that is ladies like Isis relax and have a bit more fun with you if they get to know you, and know you won't be a jerk about it. I'm looking forward to my second and third visits come 2023. In terms of how she measures up relative to her class, I think her body is PERFECT for nuru. And her style is quite wild and energetic compared to the others.

Isis charged me $130/ HR recently but in reality it's only 50 min because you spend 5 min taking a shower before and 5 min taking a shower after.

She has big perky DD tits and a nice toned body!

She teases you a lot and you pop around the 45 min mark. Then she finishes the last 10 min with a good massage on your neck / back / legs. 20/20 hindsight, was wondering if I could have her lay on top of me for the last 10 min with my hands roaming?

Downside: Only 15 sec per hand playing with her pussy. She'll put your hands to you side and say accept the energy of this massage or something like that. Also, no fingers in her.

Would definitely try again.

[Tna01]

Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.

Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.

Isis charged me $130/ HR recently but in reality it's only 50 min because you spend 5 min taking a shower before and 5 min taking a shower after.

She has big perky DD tits and a nice toned body!

She teases you a lot and you pop around the 45 min mark. Then she finishes the last 10 min with a good massage on your neck / back / legs. 20/20 hindsight, was wondering if I could have her lay on top of me for the last 10 min with my hands roaming?

Downside: Only 15 sec per hand playing with her pussy. She'll put your hands to you side and say accept the energy of this massage or something like that. Also, no fingers in her.

Would definitely try again.

[Mongerer88]

Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.

To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.

I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.

As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.

A recent review of Rebeca Diniz illustrates what I was saying in my last post.

The same guy who seemed to have a pretty good, but not perfect time with Soraia Albuquerque joined the long line of experienced reviewers who gave Rebeca Diniz a perfect score of 10 out of 10. Thus reviewer gives a wide range of scores and has given lists of 7's and 8's out of 10 for ladies on various recommended lists, including some EP ladies.

So we get to compare and contrast and see that some of these experienced reviewers are saying that Rebeca Diniz is currently a cut above the rest.

And she responds promptly in English to WhatsApp messages sent in English.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...eca-Diniz-6364

Here is her most recent review translated to English. She is of course BBBJ and her reviews indicate that anal is generally available. She is reviewed as being in her mid to late 20's.

"A true courtesan.

There are no more girls like Rebeca.

Owner of an almost-perfect body (there is no perfect body) and a beautiful face, which both makes me want to kiss her non-stop and whets my lust. Dark, smooth, well-groomed skin, worked-on musculature without being masculine, a tail that makes you want to grab, bite, spank, or simply enjoy.

Anyone who reads my TDs will realize that I'm not exactly a hands-off appreciator. For me aesthetics is not even the most important thing (but it is important). The fact is that Rebeca corresponds perfectly to what is in the apartadox photos. Photoshop just removed the tattoos to ensure anonymity.

Unpretentious. Rebeca knows she's pretty (also because she works for it). But you can't find the last coca cola in the desert.

She's not silly at all, Rebeca. She has her head on straight and is good at talking, knows how to be and is fun. Who doesn't want to depend on anyone, not "papa groups", she knows what she's going for, and expects the customer to know what she came for.

And did I tell you that Rebeca is beautiful?

Rebecca's performance?

I won't go into details.

Rebeca can either be a pornographic badass or that girlfriend who gives treats on a bad day.

She invited me for anal and I, sadist by nature and trickster by condition, refused her. And I showed him that it wasn't because I couldn't take it. Thanks to the Devil, I'm in charge of me.

I think I found my white elephant. If I got the Euromillions, it would make Rebeca a rich woman.

Oh Rebeca. You are a tremendous working girl.

The apartment? I want to know about the apartment. It has perfect conditions, toilet outside, but at the door of the room. For me it could be in a hut.

Rebeca and a hut."

[Kama Leão]

Older ladies and / or less facially attractive women often learn how to fuck better, and are more adventurous in terms of alternative sexual activities, than the youngest, hottest girls. I suppose the late bloomers are the best bet in that they become really hot after they learn how to fuck.

That is not yet an established rule but it does seem very likely to become one. I'd say that from 30 to... (you choose the limit you believe to be acceptable), that's where you'll find the best and unforgetable sex experiences. That is if you're not just choosing a luscious babe to show off (and disapoint you in bed).

[Mongerer88]

I certainly do think Soraia's new review with a zero was a clear mistake, because the guy had a reasonably good time. But I read the story of a review and click to see who else the guy has reviewed to learn the value of the review in terms of whether we like the same things. Soraia is hard to evaluate because of her inconsistency. Sometimes she delivers a great session, and most often she doesn't.

Margarida on the other hand is consistent and she has a niche customer base. She just got an 8 out of 10 review on the local board and the details of the review showed her usual lackluster performance. The reviewer said she had an angelic face and a smoking young firm body. He came once in the session and had a great time. I am glad he got what he wanted. He might, or might not, have been as happy if he picked a mid-30's lady with a less perfect face and body who really knows how to fuck.

There is sort of the John variant of the famous Hot / Crazy Chick Matrix. Older ladies and / or less facially attractive women often learn how to fuck better, and are more adventurous in terms of alternative sexual activities, than the youngest, hottest girls. I suppose the late bloomers are the best bet in that they become really hot after they learn how to fuck.

But many of the youngest, hottest women who are great fucks when they are 18-21 had a lot of chaos in their lives. So in that respect, Margarida may be just where she should be in terms of development as a person. She is passive and has probably been pursued by guys her whole life and never had to worry too much about working to please any of them. If a guy her age isn't happy with her, she can pick the next one in line. In other words, no chaos in her life, and she is likely quite normal for a beautiful girl her age. She seems to have no trouble getting enough customers who want what she currently has to offer. Without reviews, we wouldn't know what it is she has to offer.

I met one astonishingly beautiful escort who really knew how to fuck when I first met her when she was in her late teens, but god that chick had chaos. Recreational drug use, a new boyfriend or girlfriend in her life every few months (and they all were chaotic people, some of whom stole from her). She had a very high IQ, but was kicked out of a Catholic High School. She joked that all the spankings she got there helped her in escorting when she got customers with a spanking fetish. She dropped off the face of the earth and I hope she is okay.

But I always think of her when guys complain about the youngest escorts not knowing how to fuck. Sometimes that just means they had less chaos in their lives and didn't start doing much with sex until later. We have to keep in mind that one guy's starfish is another guy's dreamy little angel and is exactly what he is looking for. And for the guy's looking for more involvement and action, we just have to see if she is ever able to add that to the repertoire.

Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.

To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.

I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.

As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.

[Emeli67]

Dear Mongerer88.

I'm not sure that things always evolve in the way we wish. I was in Lisbon regularly in the past 30 years.

Lisbon in 1994 was the 'paradise of sex'. There were no agencies, no internet, and all ads were in local newspapers.

Most of the girls worked at home alone or with a friend or in private apartments with 5 or 6 girls.

The surprising fact was that there were hundreds of advertisements and all the girls, or almost all, were very young and beautiful. Escort girl situation in Lisbon was, at the time, far better than Barcelona, Budapest or Prague, cities I visited in the same period. Lisbon situation of today's is not comparable at all in terms of price or quality with that of 25-30 years ago. Let's hope it doesn't get any worse. The same comments can, in general, be applied to the city, that in this period was more authentic and less touristic of today. A wonderful city also if more poor of the Lisbon of 2022.

I take great interest in the reviews of younger ladies because of your astute comment "I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are Two, Maybe three tops. ".

And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.

I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.

In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.

So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceio, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".

[ExExpatriate]

Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.

To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.

I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.

As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.

I take great interest in the reviews of younger ladies because of your astute comment "I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are Two, Maybe three tops. ".

And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.

I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.

In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.

So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceio, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".

[Harry1217]

Confirmed directly with EP that Debora Dias is not a TS. She is, and always has been 100 percent biological female. All of their escorts are natural born females.

Any name similarity to the TS escort advertising elsewhere is just a coincidence.

Debora has a great profile and offerings. Hopefully there will be reviews soon.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/

Thank you for checking and confirming femininity with EP. She looks great, and is stated on Apartadox as providing a 'complete' service (although I'm aware of 'complete' ladies not providing things such as CIM).

Many TS's do look very feminine and it's extremely difficult to tell post-op.

[Mongerer88]

That's a good list of potential alternatives that you have referenced. Of course, there are plenty more on sites like Apartadox. It's nice to only see ladies with reviews, but sometimes we need to TOFTT!

I would highlight one thing about Debora Dias who has very recently appeared on the EP site; there is a TS called Debora Dias on several other Lisbon escort sites. The lady has features similar to the EP Debora, albeit a bigger lady and not as attractive in my opinion. Perhaps it is the same Debora, she has lost weight now and the EP pictures are heavily airbrushed?

Confirmed directly with EP that Debora Dias is not a TS. She is, and always has been 100 percent biological female. All of their escorts are natural born females.

Any name similarity to the TS escort advertising elsewhere is just a coincidence.

Debora has a great profile and offerings. Hopefully there will be reviews soon.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/

[Mongerer88]

I never really understood where the positive conception of Margarida Vaz came from (except sources I don't look at). From what I could see, she was painted as 20 at most, gorgeous, but otherwise unengaged and perhaps a time-waster.

As I wrote, I think Soraia is enough of a known quantity that I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one bad review. Not everybody is reliable, treats the ladies well or tells the truth with these things. The consistent story for her is that she is kind of a butterface (great natural body, nothing special in the face), and very willing but wholly passive in bed. For some guys, that might be a good call. Others, not so much. I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are. Two? Maybe three tops?

To make a point, reports on Flora Neves are very, very similar in nature to where Soraia was several months ago. What to make of that, eh?

On the other hand, it is very possible that bad report was accurate and Soraia has burned out. We just don't know. If it were me, yeah, I'd approach with a little more caution if I were only able to make one or two appointments.

I take great interest in the reviews of younger ladies because of your astute comment "I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are Two, Maybe three tops. ".

And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.

I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.

In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.

So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceição, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".

[Harry1217]

As I wrote, I think Soraia is enough of a known quantity that I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one bad review. Not everybody is reliable, treats the ladies well or tells the truth with these things. The consistent story for her is that she is kind of a butterface (great natural body, nothing special in the face), and very willing but wholly passive in bed. For some guys, that might be a good call. Others, not so much. I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are. Two? Maybe three tops?

To make a point, reports on Flora Neves are very, very similar in nature to where Soraia was several months ago. What to make of that, eh?

On the other hand, it is very possible that bad report was accurate and Soraia has burned out. We just don't know. If it were me, yeah, I'd approach with a little more caution if I were only able to make one or two appointments.

It's not just one bad review; 3 of her 6 reviews on the local board are poor, including two by people who've seen a lot of ladies. I also gave her a very average review on this forum a couple of months ago.

Also, there is more than one comment stating that her body is very average and that is certainly what I found. Her "willingness" is also in question in more than one review including mine.

Regarding Flora Neves or any other lady, all we can go on is the reviews currently there. The fact that a lady used to have positive reports doesn't mean we ignore the negative reports coming through now. Whether it's burn out or whatever, a poor service is a poor service.

I think there does come a time after an abundance of negative reviews like has been seen with Soraia and Margarida Vaz, that a tourist does need to consider other options. There are good younger ladies within the upper echelon of the EP ladies who consistently get almost all favorable reviews. Many are mid twenties to thirties, but Portuguese ladies age well.

One of the most intriguing thing about Soraia's initial favorable reviews was that she accepts spankings and likes anal sex. While some of her later reviews confirmed that, others have indicated that such activities were flatly refused. That is understandable, but she doesn't seem to try to enthusiastically offer other services in that situation. While she doesn't have reports of leaving early like Margarida does, it just isn't that difficult for an escort to turn her damn cell phone off during a session, and to be ready to start the action within 5-10 minutes of arriving. The best reviewed EP ladies do those things.

I agree, there is enough negative press about Soraia and Margarida to steer clear of them even if no other ladies are available when you need an appointment!

That's a good list of potential alternatives that you have referenced. Of course, there are plenty more on sites like Apartadox. It's nice to only see ladies with reviews, but sometimes we need to TOFTT!

I would highlight one thing about Debora Dias who has very recently appeared on the EP site; there is a TS called Debora Dias on several other Lisbon escort sites. The lady has features similar to the EP Debora, albeit a bigger lady and not as attractive in my opinion. Perhaps it is the same Debora, she has lost weight now and the EP pictures are heavily airbrushed?