Lisbon

[Kama Leão]

I saw some posts discussing Luciana Melo. Has anyone had a session with her lately? Does her live up to the hype? Are there any other recommendations for this category (MILF)?

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Luciana-Melo-4439.html

Luciana is, no doubt, one of the very best courtesans in Lisbon for quite some time: a wonderful mix of GFE and very hot sex, a beautiful and tall Capeverdian girl (technically a MILF, she's in her early 30's, but without the weight of the years really apparent), offering BBBJ, DATY, a great kisser and not at all a clock watcher. And those amazing BOOBS!.



As for other recommendations, just look for my previous posts.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks for your reply! I actually don't see the option of relaxation on website nor from the price list they sent me. Do you know if it's possible to just get massage with BJ? Is it usually CBJ? And could you recommend any ladies you had good experience with?

Prostitution itself is decriminalized in Portugal, but some elements of prostitution, primarily operating a brothel, are illegal.

So you won't see fixed location, published address, incalls advertising specific sexual services at a price. In fact, you may see disclaimers indicating that no sex is available, even though that may not be the case.

The term relaxation massage is a code to let them know you want CFS vaginal sex. If you read the reviews, you will find that BBBJ is very much the norm in Portugal, and at that particular spa, CIM and Covered Full Service Anal are offered by many ladies in addition to covered full service vaginal sex. No sex worker anywhere has ever refused to do a massage with a hand job, or even a CBJ, if that is what the customer wants, even if that same lady typically plays all three holes during a session.

To an extent, prices are always a bit of a negotiation. Most ladies charge less for a massage and a hand job, but others may look at it from a perspective that you took the same amount of time that someone who wanted to play three holes. So your questions are very difficult for anyone to answer since it isn't like either getting, or not getting, cheese and bacon on your burger. That having been said, Portugal is relatively inexpensive by European standards, with many full service three-hole playing, multiple cum, sessions costing 120 to 200 euros. So you should be quite pleased with whatever you arrange with a lady at the Nuru Spa, but inevitably some of this is simply a negotiation at the place that no one can give you exact data, and you have to understand that the establishments themselves do not want to put in public writing everything that will take place behind closed doors.

[MarkJohnny]

I will speak about Nuru, that have been visiting for the past years.

You can ask for a Nuru Massage, it doesn't have full service (not sure about BJ). Relaxation is full service.

You have two venues, one in Lisbon and another in Cascais, the girls circulate between them. Lately I have been going to Cascais.

You can contact them by WhatsApp and ask for a list of masseurs, they will provide information beforehand. Or just ask for a presentation, quality level is good enough to just go there.

Thanks for your reply! I actually don't see the option of relaxation on website nor from the price list they sent me. Do you know if it's possible to just get massage with BJ? Is it usually CBJ? And could you recommend any ladies you had good experience with?

[Marco81]

Hi All.

Just been reading through the last year of messages on this board and so far I only come across escorts or nuru spa. But has anybody some more recent info on some nice massage parlors, or a local website with revieuws?

Does not need to be FS Thanks.

[MrMontanelas]

Hi everyone!

I'm planning on a trip to Lisbon in December. And since it's my first time there, I was wondering if I could get some tips or suggestions.

1. Nuru Spa.

I heard lots of good reviews about this place, but I was not able to find some aforementioned ladies like Valentina on their site. Any new recommendations? Also, will there be a price difference if I book through the spa or directly with the lady? I'm mostly looking for a good B2 B massage with maybe BJ instead of a full service. If I'm interested in full service, do I just mention relaxation massage as a code name?

I will speak about Nuru, that have been visiting for the past years.

You can ask for a Nuru Massage, it doesn't have full service (not sure about BJ). Relaxation is full service.

You have two venues, one in Lisbon and another in Cascais, the girls circulate between them. Lately I have been going to Cascais.

You can contact them by WhatsApp and ask for a list of masseurs, they will provide information beforehand. Or just ask for a presentation, quality level is good enough to just go there.

[MarkJohnny]

Planning to go to Nuru Spa when in Lisbon in a few weeks, based on recommendations in this thread. Was just wondering if people tend to book with a particular girl, as I didn't see pictures with names on the website? Not sure if you can contact them and request or find somewhere else.

Not sure if you have already been there. But I got a list of available masseuse from them. https://sensualcare.pt/clientes_vip_nuru/.

[MarkJohnny]

Hi everyone!

I'm planning on a trip to Lisbon in December. And since it's my first time there, I was wondering if I could get some tips or suggestions.

1. Nuru Spa.

I heard lots of good reviews about this place, but I was not able to find some aforementioned ladies like Valentina on their site. Any new recommendations? Also, will there be a price difference if I book through the spa or directly with the lady? I'm mostly looking for a good B2 B massage with maybe BJ instead of a full service. If I'm interested in full service, do I just mention relaxation massage as a code name?

2. MILFs.

I saw some posts discussing Luciana Melo. Has anyone had a session with her lately? Does her live up to the hype? Are there any other recommendations for this category (MILF)?

3. Trans.

Has anyone tried to meet any trans providers? Either massage or full service?

Any input will be appreciated.

[Oneminuteboy]

So you probably read how I lost my cherry at Elefante Branco.

I'm focusing now more on the girl, who's name I've forgot.

As I mentioned, she was brought in by her friend who talked to me first.

When I first saw her, her ass was the first thing that popped out when I initially walked to my table. Then the nice top followed by her face. I liked her face, nothing wrong there. She has long black hair. And a bunch of tattoos.

She had high heels on which I didn't notice how tall they were until we were in my room.

Because her friend was Brazilian I thought she was too. But no, local product she says.

She was playing as a translator for her friend who was pushing the envelope. And while I didn't give her too much attention I could see she was scanning the room for her own success while supporting her friend.

She was a pole dancer first but switched to Elefante Branco due to COVID restrictions. Started out with only doing drinks but quickly changed to fucking customers.

So mistake #2 from my previous post. They were able to discuss strategy in front of my nose. And I got the sense the girl I wanted wasn't really interested. Even though there was small talks and I tried to include the other one as well it lacked a bit of sparking chemistry.

I asked her about the price structure and how this all goes and she explains it.

It was similar to what I experienced in Marrakech but then Latina instead of Arabic girls.

I talked to her what was possible. I mentioned deepthroat, anal. She said no anal but other we can do. Asked about the lesbian thing, if they really ate pussy kiss. They exchanged some words which gave me the impression it would not be that special.

When they mentioned the price (mistake #3) I was looking at her like yeah you're definitely worth that when compared to Amsterdam prices / standards.

Though I wasn't sold on doing anything initially scanning the room myself I realised I might have one of the top 3 girls. And I unconsciously accepted the fee in effort of not losing her. I only had to consider if I wanted to do a threesome or just her.

There was no padding from her side to get me excited. It was just casual business. Laughs here and there.

As the time progressed her friend let know it was no problem if I chose either one of them. In my mind I had already picked. I just played it down. Then the moment came and I let know I wanted her rather than her friend.

I think there was a slight panick with her friend as she had anticipated I'd take her or at least take her along. As she had offered a potential customer to another girl.

So a last drink from me. I went to the toilet. She went to smoke. I came back and she popped out of the smoke area to say she was coming, to scare off any hyena's thinking of swooping in.

So we left. Had to pay a €5 coat fee. Walked out. Got money from tphe ATM, her car was brought out from valet. She drove a Mercedes A class.

Went to my hotel room. Once there started stripping down. My god her body was 11/10. Her breast bigger than I expected. Definitely Had to be FF at least with her frame. Her ass even juicer. She was shorter than I expected. And had more tattoos over body. Belly was tight. I still can't believe what I saw.

So laid on the bed started kissing. There was tongue which surprised me. Starts doing horizontal striptease moves. Feeling how big I was. Said to her enough play performed oral on her. She seemed to enjoy it. Told me to go slow. After a while she pushed me away saying I want to suck your dick. Works it but the performance is not special. Quick movement on the tip going down halfway pretending to deepthroat (I'm only 7 inches long with 2,5 finger thickness).

After a few minutes switches to position sex. Puts on the rubber and bends for doggy. Her ass my god, with the tan lines!! Hitting it deliciously then the professional attitude appears and she does the standard shouts. Since I didn't have sex in a while my pre-cum was a lot. Had to stop the first round out of safety. She thought I came and didn't believe me when I said not.

She took a shower. Laid down on the bed next to me caress. Had some small talk. I fucking loved her big ass tits (also tan lines! Started kissing again, then I said to her I want a snack. She didn't understand until I went down and she smiled. This time she guides me more to a point she topped me. And grabbed the condom. Round 2.

Started fucking her missionary. Legs up kept fucking. Her face showed she wasn't really into it. Just taking the pounding as required. Then the leche talks started. "give me your milk". I was still having fun, enjoying her body as long as possible.

Fucked her in a scissor position. She enjoyed this but resisted. Wanted me to come. Grabbed my face, getting a bit more aggressive so I would fuck her harder, thus come quicker. When I stopped she was confused.

Told her of you want me to come we got to do spoon position so I feel your ass and can grab those tits. Normally I want CIM but with her body I'd take the normal way out.

Held her close to me and started going at her. She was giving the standard sentences, putting my finger in her mouth, grabbing my ass to push me in closer. I came holding those nice (fake) tits. I was happy because I haven't held such size in many years. She jumped out of bed. Condom was full. She said she didn't see the difference. Went to shower. Laid down for 1 minute before saying she had to leave. She claimed she would go straight home to Sintra.

As she got dressed I felt a deja vu. After she left I did some research on old threads on gp-pt and realised I definitely overpaid. And how the Portuguese guys there must be laughing. But damn I did not regret paying for that fucking body. Just regret not doing my research better. Valuable lesson re-learned.

[Oneminuteboy]

Sorry for the multiple posts. A correction on the name White Elephant. It is Elefante Branco. Forgot I had Google Translate on for Portuguese sites, which changed the name.

I got duped and should have known better. Too hungry for sex and the right meat in front of me.

I didn't do research. On this with Elefante Branco like I had done on website outcall / incall. And I'm more upset what this signals towards my bro's than being conned myself. I expected something else when I got there.

I went to Elefante Branco This place had way more girls than men inside. 50 entry fee. Apparently for frequent guest there is no entry fee.

Drink prices are more expensive compared to other places like Body Club. Only difference the ladies aren't pushed to have you buy bottles.

So back to the main reason. After being seated One girl chatted me up. Poor English but wasn't really interested in her. I was holding firm. She asked if her friend could sit. Mistake #1. This girl had a 10/10 body,. I tried to avoid her much as possible during the chat but because her English was better I drifted more towards her.

They chatted in Portuguese and I couldn't understand anything. Mistake #2.

They offered 1 girl 300, or both 200 each. Should have been a warning Mistake #3. I start comparing to Amsterdam prices where thing have gone out of hand and they ask 250-300 an hour for escort excl taxi.

I was delaying, looking to see if there was anything better. But I wasn't chatting with anybody else to gauge the price level.

They told me of a pension close by, 30. I opted for my hotel.

What pushed me over the edge was I had plans with an escort. She bailed on me 20 min before our meeting. So I went with one of the two as I didn't believe in their lesbian chemistry.

Despite the con I had a good fuck. And everything I mentioned was agreed on and executed.

Advice for future bro's.

- Go with somebody who has been here before so you don't pay entry fee. Of that doesn't work, see it as 2 drinks at 25 each.

- Get contact info so you can chat and and meet outside of the venue. Less fees associated with the club.

- Prices to take girls out should be between 100 and 200 depending on the time of the night and the quality of the girl. Even with COVID tax, which is a thing through the escort sites. Gauge it!

- Discuss anything you plan to do with the girl before leaving.

Apologies for this mishap in messing up the market.

For some reason I got a deja vu feeling after she left.

[Oneminuteboy]

Stripclub with an entrance fee of 30 and 1 free drink.

When I arrived there were only 2 groups of 3-4 men. When I left 2 more groups had joined.

Prices as always I floated. Staff guides girls and start talk. Want to order a drink and will take cheapest champagne priced at 90.

Really pushing it. If they see you don't bite they leave friendly.

Every 30-40 min a girl performs on stage.

Lap dances without touch are 50 and with touch 80 in a separate room. And for 100 you get dance on stage.

I took one dance after a talk and few girl drinks.

She said if I took a big bottle (350) she could join me at my hotel for 1 hour. Didn't take the offer as I had 150 max for the girl in mind. (Boy did I get that wrong the next day at White Elephant, see previous post).

She also told me Wednesday and Sunday are busiest days.

And around 4 the connect place called black tie opens op and it becomes a club like White Elephant.

[Oneminuteboy]

I got duped and should have known better. Too hungry for sex and the right meat in front of me.

I didn't do research. On this with Elephant like I had done on website outcall / incall. And I'm more upset what this signals towards my bro's than being conned myself. I expected something else when I got there.

I went to White Elephant. This place had way more girls than men inside. 50 entry fee. Apparently for frequent guest there is no entry fee.

Drink prices are more expensive compared to other places like Body Club. Only difference the ladies aren't pushed to have you buy bottles.

So back to the main reason. After being seated One girl chatted me up. Poor English but wasn't really interested in her. I was holding firm. She asked if her friend could sit. Mistake #1. This girl had a 10/10 body,. I tried to avoid her much as possible during the chat but because her English was better I drifted more towards her.

They chatted in Portuguese and I couldn't understand anything. Mistake #2.

They offered 1 girl 300, or both 200 each. Should have been a warning Mistake #3. I start comparing to Amsterdam prices where thing have gone out of hand and they ask 250-300 an hour for escort excl taxi.

I was delaying, looking to see if there was anything better. But I wasn't chatting with anybody else to gauge the price level.

They told me of a pension close by, 30. I opted for my hotel.

What pushed me over the edge was I had plans with an escort. She bailed on me 20 min before our meeting. So I went with one of the two as I didn't believe in their lesbian chemistry.

Despite the con I had a good fuck. And everything I mentioned was agreed on and executed.

Advice for future bro's.

- Go with somebody who has been here before so you don't pay entry fee. Of that doesn't work, see it as 2 drinks at 25 each.

- Get contact info so you can chat and and meet outside of the venue. Less fees associated with the club.

- Prices to take girls out should be between 100 and 200 depending on the time of the night and the quality of the girl. Even with COVID tax, which is a thing through the escort sites. Gauge it!

- Discuss anything you plan to do with the girl before leaving.

Apologies for this mishap in messing up the market.

For some reason I got a deja vu feeling after she left.

[ExExpatriate]

Veronica is arguably the best lady who has been consistently out in Estoril in recent years. She is Brazilian, a beautiful woman in her late 30's, and unchanged by surgery. Friendly, talkative, speaks good English, a good kisser and a good fuck. I recommend her as the first call for anyone in Cascais or Estoril.

120/ h incall (and, incidentally, has been for a couple of years).

[ExExpatriate]

There is no such thing as "the upper tier". There are still many great courtesans (check my previous posts) that don't ask more than 120 or 100. 150 only on outcalls. That's the "upper tier" that matters. You just have to look for them.

I have a long memory. They cried foul over going from 80 to 100 too. Some of the exact same people are crying about 120 now. It is not mostly about Brazilian gold diggers asking for 200 a pop, although that is a problem.

Furthermore, we basically agree that 120 is a fair price for an incall, and that 200 is too much. On the rest, I agree to disagree.

[Kama Leão]

Those complainers act as if refusing to pay, the best ladies will lower their prices and do. What exactly? Serve more guys per day with less enthusiasm? Idiots.

The point is that many - and I mean MANY - of those that started suddenly charging absurd prices offer a lousy service, much, much worse than it was the standard before. The majority (though not all) are Brazilian gold diggers who como to stay for two or three months on a tourist visa and hope to make the most without offering anything close to good. These are not at all "the best ladies".

You can find some good providers who still work at 100 e / h, but many are now at 120. The upper tier are at 150/ h now. What I advise you to reject is anyone asking 200/ h for an incall. There are women as good or better available at 120 or 150..

There is no such thing as "the upper tier". There are still many great courtesans (check my previous posts) that don't ask more than 120 or 100. 150 only on outcalls. That's the "upper tier" that matters. You just have to look for them.

[ExExpatriate]

When I first began delving into the world of Portuguese courtesans, massagistas, escorts and putas (sometimes, by accident) several years ago, the price for 1 hour com convivo was moving up from 80 to 100 e. The upper tier providers moved up to 120 e per hour.

Now it is moving up again. This is only natural: these ladies are working and costs go up. On the local board, they do nothing but gripe about it, but I don't think it is unfair to see a mild rise in pricing after several years.

The median monthly income. In Portugal has risen by some 300 euros in that time, and even more in Lisbon. Those complainers act as if refusing to pay, the best ladies will lower their prices and do. What exactly? Serve more guys per day with less enthusiasm? Idiots.

You can find some good providers who still work at 100 e / h, but many are now at 120. The upper tier are at 150/ h now. What I advise you to reject is anyone asking 200/ h for an incall. There are women as good or better available at 120 or 150.

These are incall rates. Outcall is always a notch higher. EP is outcall only and at 150 for the time being.