Lisbon

[John Corey]

Escortprivada is in fact outcall only. That is an irritation amongst many of the locals who do not like to have to pay for a hotel room. Most of the ladies advertising on Apartadox other than the Escortprivada ladies have incall and outcall, and a number of them are mentioned in the last few pages of this thread.

Hotels are girl friendly in Lisbon, in that there is no security guard and sign-in system like there is in much of a South America. And very few hotels have elevator key cards, so she just comes up to your room and knocks. If you do encounter a key card, you just meet her in the lobby. Whatsapp, texting and email has made this easy. Today, it is a simple matter of typing, I am in the blue shirt reading a book on the long couch, instead of the pre smart phone world of approaching every brunette entering the hotel with "Is your name Sunshine? There have been a few reported problems at a couple of upscale locally-owned Lisbon hotels when guys get drunk at a place like The Gallery and bring an equally drunk hooker through the hotel lobby late at night. But if an upscale escort who looks like a college girl enters a hotel and either goes to the elevator, or greets a guest sitting in the lobby with a smile, no one gives a shit. This is Europe, not South America or Northern Africa.

With respect to prices, the advertising venues like Aparatadox do not list them. Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but some aspects of "promoting prostitution" are not, so presumably many advertising sites think they are more legally protected by not listing prices. Fortunately, all of the EscortPrivada ladies are 150 euros an hour with no upsells or transportation fees to local hotels. If she comes to see you in a place like Sintra or Cascais, there is an additional transportation fee. For non-Escortprivada ladies, you need to join the free site www.gp-pt.net to read the reviews and get the prices. Of course those prices are almost always incall, so you need to contact her to get her outcall price, if that is what you want. I try to list in the thread several independent escorts known to be friendly to English speakers, with their prices.

If you do incall, particularly with an independent escort, you are probably going to want to take a taxi. Lisbon is like San Francisco on steroids, with hills and streets that seem to disappear and reappear a block to the right or left. Fun to explore and get lost in, unless you have an appointment with a specific lady and can't find her address. Fortunately, taxis are inexpensive and the drivers speak English.

With respect to the post you bumped with the photo of Sara, I should mention that others who have seen her were not quite as enthralled with her as I have been the three times I have seen her. She has very large natural breasts on a slim body with a great butt, but her breasts sag a bit and during some times in a month get some stretch marks at the top. The curse of a girl having big boobs on a slim body. I am not a big fan of implants, so this is fine with me. But others have been critical. I find her performance to be top-notch, particularly if you like an aggressive BBBJTC. I find her to have a fun, friendly personality, but I wanted to caveat the fact that other reviewers who have seen many Escortprivada ladies liked several others better than they liked Sara.

While lists are subjective and therefore ridiculous, they are somewhat useful if you take the time to read all of the associated reviews on the many review sites. As I have mentioned previously, it seems that every one of the at least twenty guys who have seen Carlota and Carolina d'Almedia have loved them and raved about their performance. So you can't go wrong there. Dalia and Telma get all great reviews, they just don't have as many reviews as Carlota or Carolina.

The other ladies either have just one or two excellent reviews, or like Alexandra more good reviews than bad reviews. So that makes the generation of a list very difficult. But still useful, if you are just going to see a lady or two on your trip. You can check the details of each EP lady on their site. It is accurate with respect to CIM. Call of the ladies are listed as doing oral without condom, but that isn't really accurate. Some of the non-CIM ladies are reviewed as just doing CBJ. Telma doesn't do CIM, apparently. But she definitely does a long thorough oral without condom. Anal sex is listed as A-level, but is always YMMV. Based on the reviews, Alexandra and Marina are the ladies most likely to actually do anal sex in the session (once again, no upsells). Sara rarely seems to do full anal sex any more (I did with her long ago during the first session) but she is okay with some anal play. For no traditional activities, Dalia is the only one listing BDSM in her profile, and Telma's reviews indicate she is generally fetish friendly, but they rarely give details of exactly what activities occurred. If you read through my posts, I try to give as many details as I can regarding the content of the various reviews. I am hoping to see some of the EP ladies an my next trip, so I will do more reviews from a personal perspective.

https://escortprivada.com

Thank you very much for the wealth of information you have provided.

[Tnttwo]

I've seen Dalia Correia mentioned many times in this thread but I can't find the review thread for her on gp-pt. Trying to get a hint for how good her English is. Her new listing on Apartadox has Spanish and Portuguese listed, but her Privada listing says English and Portuguese. Wife and I would prefer someone we can communicate with easily. Might also go for the Alice / Vanessa or d'almeida duos while there. Anyone with first hand experience?

[Mongerer88]

I am planning my first trip to Lisbon and I had a couple of questions: do most girls on this and other sites do outcalls? Are the hotels girl friendly? This young lady's page does not give any numbers on expected donation, is it the same as others?

Thank you in advance.

Escortprivada is in fact outcall only. That is an irritation amongst many of the locals who do not like to have to pay for a hotel room. Most of the ladies advertising on Apartadox other than the Escortprivada ladies have incall and outcall, and a number of them are mentioned in the last few pages of this thread.

Hotels are girl friendly in Lisbon, in that there is no security guard and sign-in system like there is in much of a South America. And very few hotels have elevator key cards, so she just comes up to your room and knocks. If you do encounter a key card, you just meet her in the lobby. Whatsapp, texting and email has made this easy. Today, it is a simple matter of typing, I am in the blue shirt reading a book on the long couch, instead of the pre smart phone world of approaching every brunette entering the hotel with "Is your name Sunshine? There have been a few reported problems at a couple of upscale locally-owned Lisbon hotels when guys get drunk at a place like The Gallery and bring an equally drunk hooker through the hotel lobby late at night. But if an upscale escort who looks like a college girl enters a hotel and either goes to the elevator, or greets a guest sitting in the lobby with a smile, no one gives a shit. This is Europe, not South America or Northern Africa.

With respect to prices, the advertising venues like Aparatadox do not list them. Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but some aspects of "promoting prostitution" are not, so presumably many advertising sites think they are more legally protected by not listing prices. Fortunately, all of the EscortPrivada ladies are 150 euros an hour with no upsells or transportation fees to local hotels. If she comes to see you in a place like Sintra or Cascais, there is an additional transportation fee. For non-Escortprivada ladies, you need to join the free site www.gp-pt.net to read the reviews and get the prices. Of course those prices are almost always incall, so you need to contact her to get her outcall price, if that is what you want. I try to list in the thread several independent escorts known to be friendly to English speakers, with their prices.

If you do incall, particularly with an independent escort, you are probably going to want to take a taxi. Lisbon is like San Francisco on steroids, with hills and streets that seem to disappear and reappear a block to the right or left. Fun to explore and get lost in, unless you have an appointment with a specific lady and can't find her address. Fortunately, taxis are inexpensive and the drivers speak English.

With respect to the post you bumped with the photo of Sara, I should mention that others who have seen her were not quite as enthralled with her as I have been the three times I have seen her. She has very large natural breasts on a slim body with a great butt, but her breasts sag a bit and during some times in a month get some stretch marks at the top. The curse of a girl having big boobs on a slim body. I am not a big fan of implants, so this is fine with me. But others have been critical. I find her performance to be top-notch, particularly if you like an aggressive BBBJTC. I find her to have a fun, friendly personality, but I wanted to caveat the fact that other reviewers who have seen many Escortprivada ladies liked several others better than they liked Sara.

While lists are subjective and therefore ridiculous, they are somewhat useful if you take the time to read all of the associated reviews on the many review sites. As I have mentioned previously, it seems that every one of the at least twenty guys who have seen Carlota and Carolina d'Almedia have loved them and raved about their performance. So you can't go wrong there. Dalia and Telma get all great reviews, they just don't have as many reviews as Carlota or Carolina.

The other ladies either have just one or two excellent reviews, or like Alexandra more good reviews than bad reviews. So that makes the generation of a list very difficult. But still useful, if you are just going to see a lady or two on your trip. You can check the details of each EP lady on their site. It is accurate with respect to CIM. Call of the ladies are listed as doing oral without condom, but that isn't really accurate. Some of the non-CIM ladies are reviewed as just doing CBJ. Telma doesn't do CIM, apparently. But she definitely does a long thorough oral without condom. Anal sex is listed as A-level, but is always YMMV. Based on the reviews, Alexandra and Marina are the ladies most likely to actually do anal sex in the session (once again, no upsells). Sara rarely seems to do full anal sex any more (I did with her long ago during the first session) but she is okay with some anal play. For no traditional activities, Dalia is the only one listing BDSM in her profile, and Telma's reviews indicate she is generally fetish friendly, but they rarely give details of exactly what activities occurred. If you read through my posts, I try to give as many details as I can regarding the content of the various reviews. I am hoping to see some of the EP ladies an my next trip, so I will do more reviews from a personal perspective.

https://escortprivada.com

[John Corey]

It appears that Sara Valente of Escortprivada has a new hairstyle, new pics, and a new pet dog in her updated Apartadox ad.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ente-2534.html

This is one of the first Apartadox videos that has featured much creativity and individuality. Most just show a girl dancing and slithering on a floor or mat.

I am planning my first trip to Lisbon and I had a couple of questions: do most girls on this and other sites do outcalls? Are the hotels girl friendly? This young lady's page does not give any numbers on expected donation, is it the same as others?

Thank you in advance.

[Mongerer88]

It appears that Sara Valente of Escortprivada has a new hairstyle, new pics, and a new pet dog in her updated Apartadox ad.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ente-2534.html

This is one of the first Apartadox videos that has featured much creativity and individuality. Most just show a girl dancing and slithering on a floor or mat.

[Mongerer88]

I was there last weekend in Lisbon and try to catch up Filipa and it seems she was busy and finally end of with lena which is a big mistake, first of all the picture and in person she is fat, before we had the call and agreed on everything and finally she came to the room and spend 15+15 minutes in the bathroom to refresh and finally came to the bed and just for one round in 10 minutes without anything (BBJ or CBJ or anything) just a round after a few minutes said she has one more call to go and busy. Anyone has similar experience. I am bit disappointment with this.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/lenabonaparte/

Thanks for letting us know. Her one previous review here on ISG isn't too bad, but her reviews on the local board are very iffy, so I have never put her on the list of ladies with either all good reviews, or a preponderance of good reviews versus not as good reviews. Here is the current list of the best reviewed ladies, in no particular order except for the fact that the first four have all great reviews, and the first two have a multitude of those great reviews. All are BBBJ, and most are BBBJTC. For ease in choosing, I don't put any CBJ ladies on the list.

Carlota the'Almeida.

Carolina the'Almeida.

Dalia Correia.

Telma Romao.

Marina Queiros.

Lisa Belle.

Sara Valente.

Alexandra Mendes.

Filipa Nogueira.

Marisa Guerra.

Mariana Lourenco.

You will notice that the profile of each lady has her height and weight. Lena is listed as 60 kg, while for instance Dalia is listed as 50 kg, with both being the same height. That is 20 pounds of difference, which is a lot on a girl.

Lena doesn't have the CIM designation in her profile. Most of the EP ladies who have this designation get compliments on oral, so it is something to look for.

It would be nice if every one of their 27 current ladies was a top performer, but that isn't realistic. A lot of the ladies, including the new Bianca Lopes, aren't reviewed at all, so any list is by nature unfair to the unreviewed ladies. But looking at lists and profiles is useful to avoid disappointments like the one you had. Sorry it was a bad experience but your information is very useful so that others won't book her, especially since she left early. The favorably reviewed EP ladies are reviewed as staying the full hour and trying to do multiple pops.

[KennyWu]

I was there last weekend in Lisbon and try to catch up Filipa and it seems she was busy and finally end of with lena which is a big mistake, first of all the picture and in person she is fat, before we had the call and agreed on everything and finally she came to the room and spend 15+15 minutes in the bathroom to refresh and finally came to the bed and just for one round in 10 minutes without anything (BBJ or CBJ or anything) just a round after a few minutes said she has one more call to go and busy. Anyone has similar experience. I am bit disappointment with this.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/lenabonaparte/

[Mongerer88]

We have newbies potentially searching apartadox and Portal Privado.

So it is time for a public service announcement.

This lady changes her name a lot, and she even fooled a local into seeing her under her new name, and he was stuck with a lousy session where he generously gave her a 4 out of ten, but the detailed components were 2 out of ten, 3 out of ten, etc. Some of her other reviews have been 1 out of ten in scores. She barely provides sex and has zero warmth or chemistry during the session, despite making promises to get appointments and trying to charge English speakers significantly more than locals. Her sessions have no kissing and she positions herself to minimize penetration.

She was once Vera Peres with Escortprivada, one of the few mistakes that excellent group has ever made.

Now she is Eva Ferrari on Apartadox and Gabriela Abreu on Portal Privado.

The worst reviews of any lady with multiple reviews on gp-pt.net. Her pictures are hot, so it is easy for someone to make the mistake.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...rari-3207.html

http://www.portalprivado.com/acompan...ompanhante=683

[Mongerer88]

Further to my last post ScottoD, I took a quick look at Claudia Marques local reviews and she does indeed only charge 60 euros for thirty minutes to the locals, and does indeed do BBBJ. Although they complain that she doesn't put quite the desired effort into BBBJs and uses her hand a lot. She gets some 8's and 9's out of ten from a few reviewers which, like you, complimented her nice breasts, but a few 5's, 6's and 7's out of ten from guys who weren't that into her face, or were looking for someone a bit younger. Still, not a bad price by European standards for an acceptable quick shag.

If you go to New Center, unless it has been updated, it is in a building with an old fashioned elevator where you have to turn the doorknob and open the elevator door manually like you are exiting a room, once the elevator stops at the correct floor. You will remember seeing people do that in in old movies. No big deal, and it works just fine, and I guess it adds to the uniqueness of the experience of visiting a truly old city.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks for confirming what some of us have been concerned about. It appears that Jardim may be attempting to get an extra 20 euros when they hear English spoken. Good to know that the English word "No" might solve this issue.

So tonight was my first attempt in Lisbon. Made a few newbie mistakes. First, I didn't schedule something early with either of the two I was messaging and 2nd I did not realize places close early. But at around 11 pm I tried Jardim without getting an answer on phone. There were two buttons on 3rd floor so based on previous post I tried left. Got buzzed in. Was dark and desolate, felt like I was in Netflix Marvel Daredevil spinoff and about to get robbed and murdered but got off on 3rd floor and all was ok. One girl answered saying she was only one. At that point I was at a point of little choice. She called someone to ask price for 30 min and told me 80, I said no 60 & she said ok. Gave me a quick back massage then started using hand. Was about to get a condom for BJ and I said no. She then gave me a combo HJ, BBBJ,. Then I told her to get condom for sex and she tried to upsell me 20. Again, I said no. We fucked in a few positions, finished and left.

The girl said she was 39 and she kind of looked it. But her body was good, with nice silicon boobs.

She showed me her profile to contact her again which is definitely not reality.

http://www.portalprivado.com/acompan...ompanhante=548

[ScottoD]

So tonight was my first attempt in Lisbon. Made a few newbie mistakes. First, I didn't schedule something early with either of the two I was messaging and 2nd I did not realize places close early. But at around 11 pm I tried Jardim without getting an answer on phone. There were two buttons on 3rd floor so based on previous post I tried left. Got buzzed in. Was dark and desolate, felt like I was in Netflix Marvel Daredevil spinoff and about to get robbed and murdered but got off on 3rd floor and all was ok. One girl answered saying she was only one. At that point I was at a point of little choice. She called someone to ask price for 30 min and told me 80, I said no 60 & she said ok. Gave me a quick back massage then started using hand. Was about to get a condom for BJ and I said no. She then gave me a combo HJ, BBBJ,. Then I told her to get condom for sex and she tried to upsell me 20. Again, I said no. We fucked in a few positions, finished and left.

The girl said she was 39 and she kind of looked it. But her body was good, with nice silicon boobs.

She showed me her profile to contact her again which is definitely not reality.

http://www.portalprivado.com/acompan...ompanhante=548

[Mongerer88]

The official "places", including the walk-in brothels and clubs, are closed on Sundays.

The few reports on ISG of the lower-end classified ads have been quite negative and somewhat dangerous.

The ladies on Apartadox are safe and much, much higher class.

They get reviews on gp-pt.net and generally care about performance and customer service.

In recent posts, three are mentioned in the 60 euro for half-hour and 100 euro per hour range, who are in their 20's.

If you like Milfs, look at Kama's posts of recommended ladies in that same price range.

If you are okay with outcall (and you would have to take club girls back to your hotel anyway, my recent posts list 10 or so highly recommended ladies from Escortprivada (at least four of whom get nothing but great reviews) who are 150 euros an hour, and there are many other posts of similar independents on Apartadox offering outcall at 150-200 euros an hour.

It is up to you, but I just can't see why you would search for shady "Backpage" type classified ads and see an unreviewed lady when all this information on this thread is available to you.

Some escorts also take Sunday off unless you have made an appointment in advance. Several posters gave had difficulty trying to contact someone at the last minute on Sunday, so you may want to plan ahead.

M88,

Thank you very much for your detailed reply and guidance. It is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I, like you, have found a better level of service in BKK using escort agencies for the most part, but also have a lot better idea of what is expected in BKK. I thought that was partly due to the fact that acquiring a companion by walking into a bar where the choices numbered more than a 100 or so put pressure on the girls to perform better when I only made a phone call and didn't meet them before agreeing to the agencies pricing. Having said that, I have also found on occasion that what is "agreed to" in the club doesn't mean it will take place in the room. I did visit the webpage you provided, and see that the place is not even open on Sunday's so, I think I will make a list of possible choices from the agency reviews here and see whom might be available on a Sunday afternoon or evening. I haven't even looked to see if Locanto has a presence in Lisbon or not..

[Sky Ryder]

Sky Rider,

The Gallery Club is your best bet if you want a club. Its old competitor, the White Elephant, was supposed to reopen. But the latest applicable post on the local gp-pt.net website in late March said that White Elephant does not appear to have reopened yet.

M88,

Thank you very much for your detailed reply and guidance. It is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I, like you, have found a better level of service in BKK using escort agencies for the most part, but also have a lot better idea of what is expected in BKK. I thought that was partly due to the fact that acquiring a companion by walking into a bar where the choices numbered more than a 100 or so put pressure on the girls to perform better when I only made a phone call and didn't meet them before agreeing to the agencies pricing. Having said that, I have also found on occasion that what is "agreed to" in the club doesn't mean it will take place in the room. I did visit the webpage you provided, and see that the place is not even open on Sunday's so, I think I will make a list of possible choices from the agency reviews here and see whom might be available on a Sunday afternoon or evening. I haven't even looked to see if Locanto has a presence in Lisbon or not.

I had hope to enjoy an afternoon at the Port Institute, sampling port and smoking a cigar or two, but see that is also closed on Sunday. I will have to find another way to satisfy that particular craving!

Again, I appreciate your input!

Sky.

[Mongerer88]

Sky Rider,

The Gallery Club is your best bet if you want a club. Its old competitor, the White Elephant, was supposed to reopen. But the latest applicable post on the local gp-pt.net website in late March said that White Elephant does not appear to have reopened yet.

http://www.gallery-club.pt/en/contacts-en/

You can read the few posts here on ISG regarding Gallery. There are not a significant number of posts on the local board of the place, in comparison to the thousands of posts a year for independent escorts and escort agencies.

There does not appear to be a significant "hotel hooker bar" market in Lisbon, so in the "must see and interact with it before I have sex with it" world, the Gallery, which serves food and alcohol, seems to be the place to go.

I haven't been there, and honestly the club concept baffles me. I say this not as a criticism, but just to point out that the reports consistently indicate that the amount paid by customers of the Gallery is generally higher than the amount paid for escorts, relatively more of the reviews indicate that a CBJ (instead of a BBBJ) was received once the guy got her back to the hotel, and it is not a certainty that the lady isn't an escort who also works independently or for an agency. Some of the reports on the local board indicate that posters sometimes recognize known escorts at the Gallery, which isn't surprising since so many of them use electronic devices to manage appointments. She can book a session for the next day on her phone with another customer while waiting for you to walk over and buy her a burger and drink tonight, and to make her an offer for sex tonight. Why wouldn't she try to get top dollar while minimizing her service level? She has published rates, which are pretty low compared to the rest of Europe, on her website or her agency's website, and she needs to provide a high level of service to get good reviews as an advertised escort. She doesn't have any such pressure in her "Gallery persona".

To each his own, but I just don't think you are getting something better at a club in comparison to reading the reviews and booking someone online, other than getting the club experience and ambiance.

I prefer escort services in Bangkok, where you have done some posts. The guys there will tell you that many of the escorts you book are actually club girls who head out of the club on their mopeds and go to your hotel after the agency sends them a text (in the old days it was when their pager went off in their purses). That may be correct, but my response is that if I deal with an escort service or with an online independent, I can find out exactly what her services are. I don't want to do a Borat imitation in a Bangkok club trying to ask her in English or broken Thai whether she offers anal sex, while everyone watches me enunciate "anal sex" slowly and carefully.

I think the principle that most sex workers use multiple venues to get customers is the same all over the world. With Lisbon, I suspect the clubs are often the opportunity for many sex workers to get their last customer of the day. Of course I could be wrong. You might get a few civilian ladies, such as female schoolteachers, having a late night romp to supplement their incomes. But I suspect that is the exception, not the rule.

[Sky Ryder]

Gents,

Reading the Lisbon forum is a treat, it is good to see a forum that is as positive and well informed as this one. I hope that my inquiry does not lower those standards. I haven't been in Lisbon in more than 15 years and that was just a short visit. I plan to spend a couple of days in the city around the 8/9 timeframe. I have read back a few pages to get a flavor of the offerings in Lisbon, and it appears that the outcall and even incall scene is vibrant. I am wondering if there are also clubs or lounges that are well known for their ability to attract ladies that are interested in supplementing their income in exchange for providing good companionship. I have some experience with this in other locations such as Barcelona, Sao Paulo, and all over Asia of course, but didn't know if this type of club scene exists in Lisbon. The other question is whether or there is an easy way to access the independent network of Providers in Lisbon.

Thanks in advance for any information you care to share, either publicly or by PM. I will add a report of my adventures as well. I know that Sunday evenings can be problematic on occasion, but I will arrive on the morning of the 8th.

Sky.