Lisbon

[ExExpatriate]

Recently back from Lisbon. I made 3 meetings, one being an incall with a lady who doesn't want to be spoken of.

The other two were EP.

Rafaela de Sa. The plus side is she has a gorgeous, captivating look; she is vivacious; and she is a good fuck. The downside is that she wants a cover for oral.

Vera Guerra. She looks like a fit, hot college student with modest implants and tats. On the plus side, she is an enthusiastic fuck. For as long as she is doing it.

The bad side is Vera is the kind of entitled brat who, in America, might be doing Venmo scams on Tinder. She complained about getting to my hotel a lot (which was in downtown Lisbon). We finished a first round after half an hour, and she started getting dressed after, effectively cutting the agreed time in half and only wanting to talk after that.

There are plenty of hot things in Lisbon. Avoid that one.

[Tom599]

Hello to the forum,

It's my first post here. I come from Germany and my English is not the best. Please bear with me.

I'm in Lisbon for a week in an airbnb at Placa Martin Moniz, so right in the center. During the week I met with 5 Brazilian girls. I am extremely into "Latinas". So there is still a lot going on here. But, three things are extremely important: 1) You have to go to the women, not the other way around. They don't want to do that. 2) Therefore you need a car. Lisbon has many suburbs and that's where the hottest girls live, not in the center of Lisbon. 3) Forget English, you need to learn some Portuguese, but definitely use a translator. Very few girls will respond to an English contact. The 10/10 choose your men. I have seen it myself, in half an hour she got 15 calls and tens of Whatsapp messages. On an English request comes then nothing, is simply so. I have never paid more than 100 (always for an hour), find it embarrassing to go to the half hour. Does not have to be.

[Kama Leão]

I had the similar experience that the fellow mongers can see below.

But the purpose of ISG (and the local Portuguese forum) is exactly to provide the info to sort out the great courtesans from the others. If the recommendations made here are disregarded, they will be pointless.

[HDN2015]

I'm sure there are some great ones out there but I have never had this much bad luck with the women. I must have contacted over 20 women and had zero luck. That says something about the scene here.

I had the similar experience that the fellow mongers can see below.

[Rayzah]

I don't mean in any way to come to the defense of Lisbon's reputation. But to name THREE girls that had a bad attitude and, from there, establish an all encompassing law about Lisbon's courtesans, is a bit far-fetched.

There are some of those (too many, really), but also many great ones. You were unlucky, for sure. But if, as you say, you "have been quietly following us for years", you should have taken notice of all the ones we have been recomending in post, after post, after post.

I wish you better luck, next time.

I'm sure there are some great ones out there but I have never had this much bad luck with the women. I don't want to say all of Lisbon is bad but I want to point out how these things happen for seemingly no reason. This type of behavior should be called out just so people that come here can know what to expect.

I have been in other forums reading what y'all say and have never had an issue with the websites or women y'all recommended, but it felt like I must have contacted over 20 women and had zero luck. That says something about the scene here.

[Mongerer88]

Hey guys, somewhat new to the Lisbon scene of mongering. I wanted to know whether incall is cheaper or outcall? I am assuming that outcall would be cheaper as you don't have to deal with booking a hotel etc?

About the escorts on apartadox, how do you figure out whether or not they are open to outcall?

As I am new, can someone please explain the rules of engagement for apartadox please?

Thank you!

Outcall means that she travels to you. It is generally more expensive for her since she incurs transit time and expenses, and her outcall rate is usually higher. Most ladies have an incall rate and an outcall rate. Unfortunately, apartadox does not allow the display of rates, so you need to ask the lady about her rates.

Please note that Escort Privada only offers outcall. But the 150 per hour rate includes outcall within the city limits. They charge an additional amount for outcall to more distant locations such as Sinatra, Cascais, Setubal, Sessimbra, etc. Unless things have changed, they will sometimes waive any such additional charge if you book two hours or more. But you need to ask them. Remember that is just for outcall outside of Lisbon.

Incall is when you travel to see her. Most reports on the local review board are for incall. Her incall rates are set so that she pays her share of the incall apartment out of her monthly earnings. This is a fixed cost for her, so an occasional outcall appointment doesn't reduce this fixed cost. So she still charges more for outfall since she has to travel to see you.

If you are not a Lisbon local, you likely have a hotel or Airbnb. So a non-local likely incurs more fees for an incall instead of an outcall appointment since you need to take a taxi or Uber to go see her at her incall place. So you compare her outcall rate to the costs you would incur to see her at your place. Hotels are girl-friendly in Lisbon and in all of Portugal. She can come up to your hotel room without the hotel security stopping her, or the hotel charging you more. That is a concept that people who started doing this in South America or the Muslim World have a lot of difficulty understanding. Women are equals in Europe, Canada and the United States and can walk around the hotel freely. There are plenty of barriers to commercial sex in the United States, but entry / exit from hotels (as opposed to motels) are not an issue in the United States. But that was off-topic. In Portugal, female provider entry into all venues, hotels / motels / Airbnb's, is not an issue.

[SecurityBanana]

Hey guys, somewhat new to the Lisbon scene of mongering. I wanted to know whether incall is cheaper or outcall? I am assuming that outcall would be cheaper as you don't have to deal with booking a hotel etc?

About the escorts on apartadox, how do you figure out whether or not they are open to outcall?

As I am new, can someone please explain the rules of engagement for apartadox please?

Thank you!

[Kama Leão]

Lisbon has some of the flakiest women I've ever dealt with, US included. I'm talking about some of the women that were suggested in here and on other sites have flaked out on me.

I don't mean in any way to come to the defense of Lisbon's reputation. But to name THREE girls that had a bad attitude and, from there, establish an all encompassing law about Lisbon's courtesans, is a bit far-fetched.

There are some of those (too many, really), but also many great ones. You were unlucky, for sure. But if, as you say, you "have been quietly following us for years", you should have taken notice of all the ones we have been recomending in post, after post, after post.

I wish you better luck, next time.

[HDN2015]

Language.

Many girls like Mellany (https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...lany-4848.html) read my English message and never answered, 2 days later I asked again she read and no answer. A day after that suddenly she replies "Oi bebe nao falo ingles". If I sent translate text she answered but took 200 euro + cab for coming to hotel. And she said she worked near Roma Reiro station. Preferred incall.

Reason I think they don' even bother translating themselves is because they don't have to. Every girls I met had their phone buzzing and calling all the time. Also on WhatsApp you can see most girls when they are online etc. Melanny is online basically every sharp hour. Probably full all the time.

I have the same feelings. The locals feed the market. They don't need to speak English if they already have flourishing business with Portuguese speakers.

[HDN2015]

Lisbon has some of the flakiest women I've ever dealt with, US included. I'm talking about some of the women that were suggested in here and on other sites have flaked out on me.

Totally agree.

I contacted around 25 women (probably more) . My goals was to see only black women (I finally extended to Brazilian and Portuguese) . I ended up to see just one black girl and 2 Brazilian veterans (+40 why. O). My last Veteran will not stay in my memories (located around Saldana station in a piso with other chicks) . I selected her to avoid the lazyness of the youngest ones. I paid 100 four 1 hour. I left before.

I contacted Pureza Vilar on apartadoX. She looks nice on the pictures. She asks me 150 an hour. Honestly fellow mongers, I thought it was over priced compared to what I experienced in other places in the world (I let you see my previous posts) , and I had no guarantees on how the meeting would be (especially when others women had already make me waste my time).

From my opinion, Lisbon market is over estimated: above 1 hour=100, it might be a scam (I'm talking from my experience).

Women ask 60 for 30 min and the quality is less than in a German brothel or in BCN.

Be careful guys.

[HDN2015]

In case you don't get to meet any of these, you'll always have Fernanda d'vila

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Fernanda-D%E2%80%99Avila-5363.html

( BBBJ, A-Level, DATY). Not quite on the same level of Yola and Luciana but still quite good.

I contacted the 3 women that you had suggested me.

Fernanda replied and we stated to arranged the meeting:

17:17 me: Can you tell me what are the services you propose?

18:22 F: ola estou atender junto ao El corte ingles.

Faço. Massagem com convivio, oral ao. Natural, vaginal e anal.

30 m /60.

45 m /80 (anal)+20€.

1 h /100 (anal)+20€.

18:26 me: Where can I meet you?

18:27 F: sao Sebastião.

18:30 me: I'll let you know when I'm out of the metro station.

19:27 me: I'm coming to your place.

19:28 F: ok.

19:46 me: I'm here.

20:09 me: Are you OK?

20:09 me: I'm waiting for your information.

20:10 F: I'm ocupada.

20:11 me: Have a good night.

20:11 F: 21.

20:12 me: Not it's ok.

20:12 me: Good luck.

[Rayzah]

Let me start by saying I been quietly following you guys for years, I been doing this for a few years now and I've had a lot of experience with this lifestyle. I don't normally do this but I must say, Lisbon has some of the flakiest women I've ever dealt with, US included. I'm talking about some of the women that were suggested in here and on other sites have flaked out on me.

I'm saying names Leonor Oliveira.

Karol Bugatti https://www.apartadox.com/es/striper...l-Bugatti-5385.

Matilde Soares https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ares-5304.html.

All played the same game with me. First was Matilde, I contacted her, she responded we arranged a time she confirmed and said she could come a little earlier, she kept me updated from the moment I sent her the address, she told me she was on the way, even told me she was close and once arrived said she was looking for parking and that was the last message I received from her.

Leonor was the next day and basically did the same thing.

And later that night I reached out to Karol and she was a incall, she sent me the location, we arranged a time and even texted me to see how close I was and once I responded I was there, radio silence. I've been to a lot of places and dealt with some women in places that you wouldn't think had a scene but I've never been played like this so consistently. What's with these women and these games?

I will say I did have a good time at RoyalT spa, my Therapist Isis was excellent, one of the best massages I have had.

[Kama Leão]

I keep searching good gems until next week.

My objective was to be with black women

With Yola Gomes https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...opes-1975.html you can't miss. She's up to anything: wild sex, BBBJ, A-Level, FFK, DATY, you name it.

But, if you like them full bodied and with BIG boobs, Luciana Melo https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...Melo-4439.html is an unforgettable experience (BBBJ, FFK, DATY). You'll leave her boudoir writing epic poetry!

In case you don't get to meet any of these, you'll always have Fernanda d'Ávila

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Fernanda-D%E2%80%99Avila-5363.html

( BBBJ, A-Level, DATY). Not quite on the same level of Yola and Luciana but still quite good.

[HDN2015]

I received only 1 feedback from an Angolan woman (on EP). She asks 1 h=140, 30 min = 100 .

Obviously based on my experience I did give her a yes answer (especially when I don't know the quality, and for less I already know better).

I would like to say:"I didn't".

I contacted this afternoon 2 capverdian women on ApartadoX: Daniela Santos and Catarina Fortes.

They are time wasters.

I send the message to know the prices and where to meet up. When I arrived at the supposed place they did not reply to me. I guess their business is flourishing. I let them enjoy other "customers".

I have to visit another place later, I'll let you know.

[HDN2015]

I'm going to Lisbon soon. It's my first time, I saw there is a huge African community in the city thus I'll try to aim only black woman during my stay.

Thanks to the M88 I know where to knock.

This is my 2nd day in the city. I searched on classificados X. Yesterday I was with a black girl who tried to do her best. But when I cumed she decided the time was over (30 min =40€). I had a BBBJ and can put a finger in a asshole.

I sent many messages to different black girls (Angolan, Mozambican, cap verdian). I received only 1 feedback from an Angolan woman (on EP). She asks 1 h=140€, 30 min = 100 €.

Obviously based on my experience I did give her a yes answer (especially when I don't know the quality, and for less I already know better).

I finally ended up with a Brazilian veteran around Av. Do Brasil.

She told me there are more women but as it's early, she was the only available woman around.

The party was good (30 min=60€).

I keep searching good gems until next week.

My objective was to be with black women but the theory is different than the reality.

I'll keep you updated.