Lisbon

[Sky Ryder]

Sky Rider,

The Gallery Club is your best bet if you want a club. Its old competitor, the White Elephant, was supposed to reopen. But the latest applicable post on the local gp-pt.net website in late March said that White Elephant does not appear to have reopened yet.

M88,

Thank you very much for your detailed reply and guidance. It is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I, like you, have found a better level of service in BKK using escort agencies for the most part, but also have a lot better idea of what is expected in BKK. I thought that was partly due to the fact that acquiring a companion by walking into a bar where the choices numbered more than a 100 or so put pressure on the girls to perform better when I only made a phone call and didn't meet them before agreeing to the agencies pricing. Having said that, I have also found on occasion that what is "agreed to" in the club doesn't mean it will take place in the room. I did visit the webpage you provided, and see that the place is not even open on Sunday's so, I think I will make a list of possible choices from the agency reviews here and see whom might be available on a Sunday afternoon or evening. I haven't even looked to see if Locanto has a presence in Lisbon or not.

I had hope to enjoy an afternoon at the Port Institute, sampling port and smoking a cigar or two, but see that is also closed on Sunday. I will have to find another way to satisfy that particular craving!

Again, I appreciate your input!

Sky.

[Mongerer88]

Sky Rider,

The Gallery Club is your best bet if you want a club. Its old competitor, the White Elephant, was supposed to reopen. But the latest applicable post on the local gp-pt.net website in late March said that White Elephant does not appear to have reopened yet.

http://www.gallery-club.pt/en/contacts-en/

You can read the few posts here on ISG regarding Gallery. There are not a significant number of posts on the local board of the place, in comparison to the thousands of posts a year for independent escorts and escort agencies.

There does not appear to be a significant "hotel hooker bar" market in Lisbon, so in the "must see and interact with it before I have sex with it" world, the Gallery, which serves food and alcohol, seems to be the place to go.

I haven't been there, and honestly the club concept baffles me. I say this not as a criticism, but just to point out that the reports consistently indicate that the amount paid by customers of the Gallery is generally higher than the amount paid for escorts, relatively more of the reviews indicate that a CBJ (instead of a BBBJ) was received once the guy got her back to the hotel, and it is not a certainty that the lady isn't an escort who also works independently or for an agency. Some of the reports on the local board indicate that posters sometimes recognize known escorts at the Gallery, which isn't surprising since so many of them use electronic devices to manage appointments. She can book a session for the next day on her phone with another customer while waiting for you to walk over and buy her a burger and drink tonight, and to make her an offer for sex tonight. Why wouldn't she try to get top dollar while minimizing her service level? She has published rates, which are pretty low compared to the rest of Europe, on her website or her agency's website, and she needs to provide a high level of service to get good reviews as an advertised escort. She doesn't have any such pressure in her "Gallery persona".

To each his own, but I just don't think you are getting something better at a club in comparison to reading the reviews and booking someone online, other than getting the club experience and ambiance.

I prefer escort services in Bangkok, where you have done some posts. The guys there will tell you that many of the escorts you book are actually club girls who head out of the club on their mopeds and go to your hotel after the agency sends them a text (in the old days it was when their pager went off in their purses). That may be correct, but my response is that if I deal with an escort service or with an online independent, I can find out exactly what her services are. I don't want to do a Borat imitation in a Bangkok club trying to ask her in English or broken Thai whether she offers anal sex, while everyone watches me enunciate "anal sex" slowly and carefully.

I think the principle that most sex workers use multiple venues to get customers is the same all over the world. With Lisbon, I suspect the clubs are often the opportunity for many sex workers to get their last customer of the day. Of course I could be wrong. You might get a few civilian ladies, such as female schoolteachers, having a late night romp to supplement their incomes. But I suspect that is the exception, not the rule.

[Sky Ryder]

Gents,

Reading the Lisbon forum is a treat, it is good to see a forum that is as positive and well informed as this one. I hope that my inquiry does not lower those standards. I haven't been in Lisbon in more than 15 years and that was just a short visit. I plan to spend a couple of days in the city around the 8/9 timeframe. I have read back a few pages to get a flavor of the offerings in Lisbon, and it appears that the outcall and even incall scene is vibrant. I am wondering if there are also clubs or lounges that are well known for their ability to attract ladies that are interested in supplementing their income in exchange for providing good companionship. I have some experience with this in other locations such as Barcelona, Sao Paulo, and all over Asia of course, but didn't know if this type of club scene exists in Lisbon. The other question is whether or there is an easy way to access the independent network of Providers in Lisbon.

Thanks in advance for any information you care to share, either publicly or by PM. I will add a report of my adventures as well. I know that Sunday evenings can be problematic on occasion, but I will arrive on the morning of the 8th.

Sky.

[Mongerer88]

Sorry newb to Lisbon. Will be there tomorrow.

Are the prices, for example listed in Jardin site for full service?

The bulk of the evidence is that there are no upsells at Jardim.

None of the reviews of Jardim on the local gp-pt.net local review board lists an uosell, and those reviews are for full service. Upselling is not part of the sex work culture in Lisbon and the local guys would definitely mention it in negative terms if upsells occurred. The local reviews of Jardim are not really outstanding, but some of them are good. It seems that about half or more of the ladies at Jardim are CBJ, and most of the locals easily obtain BBBJ from the many reviewed independents offering incall at lower prices. So the walk-in brothels in general don't get a tremendous number of reviews on the local board.

None of the detailed reviews of Jardim here on ISG that I trust mention upsells. In fact, one of them specifically mentions that no upsell occurred. That guy paid a little more, but based on how many times he came, it appears he bought a longer block of time, and he was pleased with the place and said the girl he was with was beautiful. His report.

Mentions that she got mad when he came in her mouth during the BBBJ. So if you get a BBBJ, remember to ask if CIM is okay. One of the other reviews of the place was by the poster Zozimus, who is the master of identifying the low-priced incall brothels of Madrid. If he got upsold, he would have told us. Another guy who reviewed Jardim always Matou, a Frenchman who goes for the lower priced Lisbon ladies, and I think he would have revealed any upselling.

You can look at posts 2432, 2138, 1875 and 1782 to read those reviews. The posts at and around number 2431 give details regarding the address.

There is one poster who claims that Jardim has an upcharge for sex. But that is inconsistent with the other reviews.

If you go, let us know. If they ask how you heard about them, you might want to say gp-pt.net just in case they are more likely to try and upsell an English speaker, instead of mentioning ISG. It never hurts to put a few extra euros in your pocket when you go there, just in case.

[ScottoD]

http://newlux.pt/en/

http://www.relax-corpo.com/contactos/index.html

http://www.jardim-do-eden.com/pt/

https://www.portugalio.com/lisboa/av...mpresas-6.html

Here are the links.

Relax Corpo and New Lux are easy to understand. For Jardim, you need to click on the Contact icon to see the phone number.

The New Center website has been down for a long time. However, even after the website went down, guys reported that it is open and they just walked to the address and knocked on the door. There was a banner over the door that says "New Center" when those reviewers went there. So to the best of my knowledge the place is still open.

I linked to an old phone book directory that had the phone number. You can try it and see if it works if you feel a need to call instead of just showing up.

Sorry newb to Lisbon. Will be there tomorrow.

Are the prices, for example listed in Jardin site for full service?

[LordPapi]

In the sex shops in Lisbon, is it possible to buy something to aid performance? I would really like to last longer when facing these amazing ladies.
Thanks.

Sorry, I don't know about the sex shops but you should look into dapoxetine / priligy for your condition if you live in Europe.

[LordPapi]

Here's my take on Club Gallery based on recent visits. I was looking for some information about this spot a few weeks ago but couldn't find much. First of all, watch out for the cabbies, the moment you tell them where you're headed they always have a better recommendation. My guess is that they get a referral fee from this "better" club. I wouldn't visit Gallery earlier than 11 pm, doesn't get lively till then, so grab dinner or keep busy. Entry fee is 25 euros and that gets you one drink. Everyone is treated like VIP; you will be seated and served drinks with no delays. The vibe is cool and the ladies do not hound you. If you've never been to anywhere like it, it's worth checking out. The only thing is that the tab adds up quickly, so if money is an issue then skip it. BTW, they might as well change the name to Implant Gallery, because just about everyone has had some work done. If silicon is your thing, this is a mini heaven. I prefer my ladies in their natural form and unaltered. There's an exit fee for the ladies but it isn't much. Negotiate properly and don't overpay. In my opinion, EP and ApartadoX got the job done for me, I only went there to satisfy my curiosity. Great place to people watch too.

[Mongerer88]

Wow! She looks hot.

I was wondering about something, because I really have no knowledge and little experience in this subject. In the sex shops in Lisbon, is it possible to buy something to aid performance? I would really like to last longer when facing these amazing ladies.

Thanks.

Lisbon has no shortage of sex shops that should have the various desensitizing creams. I have no idea how well they work.

https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Sex+Shops&find_loc=Lisboa.

You read differing opinions on the subject.

https://www.askmen.com/dating/dzimme...e_answers.html

The recommended outcall escorts on this forum are reviewed as staying for the full hour. If you are a guy that pops quickly, isn't it better to take a Viagra at the start of the session and try for the second cum in the hour than to try to delay the first one? All of the EP ladies I have been with tried for the second cum in the hour.

[IAmJustAMan]

This should be interesting. Hopefully Bianca Lopes the new lady on the Escortprivada roster will get some reviews soon.

Wow! She looks hot.

I was wondering about something, because I really have no knowledge and little experience in this subject. In the sex shops in Lisbon, is it possible to buy something to aid performance? I would really like to last longer when facing these amazing ladies.

Thanks.

[Mongerer88]

This should be interesting. Hopefully Bianca Lopes the new lady on the Escortprivada roster will get some reviews soon.

She has a lot of service offerings in her profile, including CIM.

And her pictures are fantastic (hopefully the face matches the rest of the body).

https://escortprivada.com/escort/bianca-lopes/

The reason I mention this lady before she has gotten any reviews is that it is hard to find providers in Portugal that do not have a Portuguese, Brazilian or African ancestry. Those are great lineages, of course, but some guys like to get a lot of variety. The hottest provider I ever saw was a true blonde Ukrainian. I was just stunned when I walked into the room where I saw her.

So hopefully she will be a great one. The local guys loved Zara White of EP, because a busty Dutch girl who performed s great BBBJTCIM was an exotic rest for the Portuguese guys. I would think some of them will give Bianca a try and review her. I was told once that Portugal has less immigration from other parts of Europe and less marrying of ethnic Portuguese to non-Portuguese partners than any other country in Western Europe. I am not sure if that is true or not.

[LordPapi]

I was able to book an appointment with her over whatsapp a few days before I left home and scheduling was no problem, google translate helped as well. I confirmed with her again upon arrival. She was about 30 minutes late for our appointment but I didn't have much going on at the time so I was okay with it. Lunna is absolutely stunning, and that's not confusing her beauty with niceness. I can confirm that her photos are a true representation, she actually looks better in person. She speaks some English and makes an effort to communicate only in English as she's trying to improve her skills. My session with her was truly one of the most outstanding I've ever had with anyone. She really enjoys what she does. DFK was offered right away as we undressed each other then she excused herself to freshen up again. If you like mixed chicks with perfect smiles and natural goods you won't be disappointed, her nipples are fairly large. She is in her early 30's but easily passes for someone in her mid 20's. She is in great shape and nicely curvy for a petite chick. One thing about her is that she is playful and likes to take control. She oiled every inch of my body and even gave me a body to body massage. She called multiple positions and even got us in front of a full length mirror so we could watch ourselves in action. The whole experience was fantastic but I won't provide any more detail than that. She mentioned that she will be headed back to Brazil in a month or thereabout, so I encourage anyone interested to book her and experience what she has to offer ASAP. Some things I wasn't too thrilled about is that she charges 200 euros plus cab fares, which was an additional 15 euros. It didn't really bother me because these trips for me are to spoil myself a little, so a couple of euros here and there isn't the end of the world. One other thing is that if she has never seen you before she verifies the room # by calling you directly at the hotel and asking to be connected to your room. This requires providing your last name and even though I have nothing to hide, I prefer only providing an alias like always they do. I would rate my session with her a 10 but for the extra hassle I'll keep it at an 8.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...aMel-3653.html

[Mongerer88]

Dear Mongerer88,

Many thanks for your prompt response. Its very sad that Kelly Morais has left this business. Though she had mentioned this two months back when I contacted her for the first time that she would discontinue working in Lisbon. I desperately wanted to meet her. Actually I planned my visit to Lisbon just to meet Alexandra Mendes with whom I had the best anal till now and explore Kelly Morais. Anyways, options provided by you look good. Any additional information about JenniferPt and Marcya Villar will be much appreciated. Once again thanks.

Marcya Villar has put her ad back up.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...llar-3043.html

She has several pages of fantastic reviews on the local board with basically all 9's and 10's out of 10's from the local guys who get the higher priced independents. Her reviews read very much like Kelly Morais reviews used to, with lots of GFE and BBBJ and a rocking body. She is apparently in high demand when she works, so the reviews indicate that she can de difficult to reach. And some of the reviews say she is not always punctual, so expect that she might be a little bit late to the appointment. There are no reviews yet from English-only speakers, but she lists English in her profile. Her rates in the local board generally seem to be 200 euros an hour. Not sure whether that was outcall or incall, so you would need to ask about a specific outcall rate. You might want to jot her phone number down, because she doesn't run ads very often.

The other lady who looks, based on the photos, to be similar to Kelly Morais is Alice Martinelli.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...elli-3696.html

She just did a brief tour of Porto and the reviewer there gave her a perfect review and confirmed GFE and BBBJ, just like her two excellent reviews in the Lisbon section of the gp-pt.net local board. Alice's rates appear to be a little bit lower than Marcya's, with the reviews typically mentioning 150 euros for 60 minutes and 100 euros for 45 minutes. Her level of English is unknown, since there are no ISG reviews.

And of course when discussing the independents in the 150 euro an hour range known to provide outcall and to speak English, it is always useful to mention Emma Martinez, who was a former EP girl who has been favorably reviewed as an independent here on ISG as being GFE and generally offering anal. Her body style is a little bit different than the busty Brazilian with a booty look that Kelly Morais had, which is why I mentioned the other two ladies since the poster wanted a substitute for the retired Kelly Morais.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...inez-3408.html

[Dubemezekwem]

Thanks Mongerer, you are a gentlemen.

Any experienced, educated, traveled mongers in PT who are looking to make friends should PM me. Our hobby is perfectly normal, we only live once, and besides some online privacy, we are not creeps. Just guys who have choices and are not mentally imprisoned by the moral police and pussy union / monopoly.

See a little animated gif of mine, just for laufhas!

I will be in Portugal next week.

[Mongerer88]

I realize that there does not need to be much more confirmation needed that Carlota d'Almeida is an excellent provider, but she received an excellent review yesterday on the big American review site by a guy who was very impressed by her passionate kissing and her ability in cowgirl to position and reposition her legs to vary the penetration depth.

And in other good news, Dalia Correia's profile has now reappeared on Escortprivada's site. Dalia has received all good reviews here on ISG and she features CIM and BDSM in her profile. She appears, based on her pictures and reviews, to be one of their youngest providers. There is always a lot of turnover with the 18-20 year old (Ana Castro and Mia Rebelo appear to have left) but sometimes they come back after a short (or long) break.

[Mongerer88]

Hi my friends.

Can anyone point me to Porto or Lisbon where I can find a regular girl for relief at least once a week. The sites mentioned have no pricing info.

Perhaps I am too used to Thailand, me love foreigner long time, 1000 baht, boom boom!

Paula Borges put her ad back up. She is 60 euros for thirty minutes and 100 euros for an hour.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...rges-3422.html

She is incall but is said to make an effort to service English-speaking customers and uses Whatsapp.

Her pictures are great and she does BBBJTCIM.

One thing that makes her interesting is that her reviews at first were truly all over the place. Like 1 out of 10 followed by 10 out of 10 from experienced reviewers,. But lately her reviews have settled to consistent 7's and 8's out of 10. It would be interesting to see what experience a non-local would get.

So I am not as certain you would get as good of performance seeing her as you would with Jennifer or Lila, but if you end up seeing a lot of 60 euro incall ladies, she might be one to consider.