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  1. #2432

    Jardim do Eden

    Thanks Mongerer88.

    Last year my colleague and I tried this place out.

    I phoned 2 hours before to see how many girls they have and the mistress told me around 6/7!

    Parking was easy to find 200 m up the road. Easy entrance she buzzed us in and we went up to the third floor which was infact the third and a half floor. She showed us 13 girls! All pretty good.

    Paid 80€ 1 hour.

    Beautiful fair skin Spanish girl. BJ with condom is compulsory there.

    All in all awesome afternoon and place highly recommend to others.

  2. #2431
    The Jardim address on the website gives us a change to learn a bit of Portuguese.

    Av. João XXI, andº43 - 3º Esq, 1000 Lisbon.

    The address on the website is consistent with what has been reported in the forum in 2016. Let us know if it has changed.

    43 Av. Joao XXI, as we would write it in English, floor number 3 (They use the little celsius looking symbol for floor in Spanish addresses, also). And the reports indicate that the entrance is to the left on floor number 3 (massage places are big with lots of rooms, so they usually take up the entire floor, or half the floor). And an Internet search indicates that esq. Is in fact the abbreviation for "to the left". The review that confirmed the address indicated that he paid 100 euros and got sex. I assume he purchased an hour, but the reviewer did not specifically say that.

    https://mymemory.translated.net/en/P...se/English/esq

  3. #2430
    Quote Originally Posted by Blp111  [View Original Post]
    Hi people,

    I went here last year July 2017 had the best day to finish of my holiday!

    Is this place still open. Heard reports it might be closed or moved?

    http://www.jardim-do-eden.com/pt/
    There are no reports of closing or moving of the place on the local board. Although few of the locals do extensive reports of the place, they are usually good about mentioning anything like that. Michelle's closed, could you be getting the story mixed up with Michelle's closure?

    Jardim is officially a massage place, and New Center is officially an exercise and relaxation place, according to the websites. So they are different than Michelles.

    Note that on the local board, there are no reports of sex costing any more than the 60 euros for 30 minutes, 80 euros for 45 minutes, and 100 euros for 60 minutes listed on the Jardim website. Let everyone know if they charged you any more than that on your last visit, or if there is any tourist surcharge on your next visit. One poster a few pages back suggested that the prices may be higher for sex than what is listed on the website, but that was just one poster saying that, and hopefully that is not the case.

    They list contact information on the website, and they accept whatsapp messages according to the website, so perhaps you could ask them if the address has changed, or is any different than what is listed on the website. The address is a big difficult to see on the website, but it appears to be listed in the text just above the map and to the right of the contact information.

    http://www.jardim-do-eden.com/pt/

  4. #2429

    Jardim do Eden.

    Hi people,

    I went here last year July 2017 had the best day to finish of my holiday!

    Is this place still open. Heard reports it might be closed or moved?

    http://www.jardim-do-eden.com/pt/

  5. #2428

    Escort Privada updates and Tidbits.

    Carlota D'Almeida, who is the highest-EP girl based on the reviews from several sites, got a 9/10 review on the big American review board from a reviewer with a long history of reviews. He rated Carlota slightly higher than he had rated Daryn and Amy Lee in Montreal, and they are two stellar Montreal ladies that I have seen. He said that Carlota was tall and slender with a great body, and confirmed passionate DFK, fingering that made her wet, excellent CFS and BBBJTCIM.

    http://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/

    Marina Queiros is now back on the escortprivada roster after taking some time off. She is reviewed on the local board and the reviews confirm the accuracy of her pictures (she has tattooed that are removed in the pictures for privacy) and confirm her listed service offerings that include CIM and anal sex. Her reviews are pretty good, and she is described as a very good but not spectacular performer. I think one of the reviewers said she is a Volkswagen, not a Mercedes in performance. But she was described as a teen who was not too experienced, so there is certainly the possibility of her performance improving to the Mercedes level, especially with her range of service offerings.

    http://escortprivada.com/escort/marina-queiros/

    I notice that Dalia Corrria now officially lists BDSM in her service offerings on the website, and is the only EP lady to specifically list this activity (although the profiles on the Happyescorts site suggest that other EP ladies are open to this activity, also). It is hard to see the offering on her EP page since it is in a different color and font. Apparently the collar she wore for her profile pics was not just a fashion accessory. I am really looking forward to seeing her on my next trip.

    http://escortprivada.com/escort/dalia-correia/

  6. #2427

    Good point

    Interesting, and I agree on what you write. Have seen in other cities that website offers more than the girl actually will do. That, most likely, have given girls many unpleasant conflicts with.

    It really taints the credibility of the outfit.

    All I want is a visit from a girl that looks like in the ad, and that does what is agreed for the agreed price.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Another warning sign on lisbonsweeties is that almost every lady is listed as offering anal sex, it clearly exceeds 90 percent.

    When you look at the profiles of trusted, reviewed agencies, the percentage of women offering anal sex is not usually more than 25 percent. Same with independents. About 25 percent, maybe a little more, of the independent, reviewed escorts in Lisbon offer anal sex. No where near 90-100 percent.

    I notice that when I click on the Unforgettable Escorts link from the lisbonsweeties site, the website design is exactly the same. And the pictures of Candy are exactly the same ones I remember seeing on that site 5 or 6 years ago. How could they have that many ladies and only one or two reviews in history (and bad ones at that).

  7. #2426
    I re-read the Juicy Details section of the Dee from Lisbonsweeties review on the big American review board after getting my membership upgraded as a result of identifying some outdated ad links.

    It was worse than I remembered when I read it the first time a while ago.

    She decided the session was over about a half hour in, even though he hadn't cum, and when he protested her leaving early, she threatened to start screaming.

    Not a lady you want in your room if your coworkers are next door.

  8. #2425
    Another warning sign on lisbonsweeties is that almost every lady is listed as offering anal sex, it clearly exceeds 90 percent.

    When you look at the profiles of trusted, reviewed agencies, the percentage of women offering anal sex is not usually more than 25 percent. Same with independents. About 25 percent, maybe a little more, of the independent, reviewed escorts in Lisbon offer anal sex. No where near 90-100 percent.

    I notice that when I click on the Unforgettable Escorts link from the lisbonsweeties site, the website design is exactly the same. And the pictures of Candy are exactly the same ones I remember seeing on that site 5 or 6 years ago. How could they have that many ladies and only one or two reviews in history (and bad ones at that).

  9. #2424

    Specific Information.

    Gunnar2000,

    I looked back at the reviews and here were the problem reports.

    For Escortgirl-Lisbon, Lana, who is still on the website, was described as hot, but a performance disaster. The guy confirmed the availability of anal and multiple pops beforehand via text, but when the session occurred, he got only CBJ, and after the first cum, she started texting on her phone and said she had another appointment in a few minutes (there appeared to have been plenty of time left in the session). So he left without getting the second pop. It was Kama that noted this lady has negative reviews on go-pt.net. The other negative review of this agency was of Catarina Dias, who is no longer on the site. She did not allow DFK or DATY, and only did a CBJ instead of BBBJ.

    The negative review of lisbonsweeties on the big American review board was of Dee, who is still on their site. Here is the applicable portion of the review:

    "General Details.

    Pictures were not accurate. Started good but freaked out after 30 minutes because I did not blow it. Agency would not answer calls afterwards. Avoid this agency at all costs. ".

    https://lisbonsweeties.com/escorts_lisbon/dee/

    It is obviously concerning that the agency ceased contact with him after this disastrous experience.

    I can't help but ask. Since these agencies are a lot more expensive than the reviewed alternatives anyway, could you not walk down the street, pay cash (or use a personal credit card) for a room somewhere else, and arrange a 2-3 hour window where you say you cannot join your co-workers at social events because you have a family matter or other business issue that you must make phone calls about? You would of course instead be at the the other hotel, some of which are not that expensive.

  10. #2423

    One more thought.

    One other general thought about searching for escorts that is not unique to Lisbon.

    If you find an agency using Google search and it pops up near the top of the Search Results, there are two possibilities (since they all use terms designed to get hits):

    1. They get a lot of legitimate web traffic, or.

    2. They subcontract out to India the process of having people search for their website and access their website, or do other known techniques, including linking, to maximize search results.

    When I see that an agency has a lot of reviews, I figure it is legitimate.

    When a group such as delightfulescorts and Lisbon Sweeties gets near the top of the hit list, I ask myself how, when they have few reviews here and no reviews at all on the local board.

    If this is the other group you asked about (the spelling was different in your post).

    http://escortgirl-lisbon.com/home

    They are not part of the "conglomerate". They are, however, 0 for 1 on ISG reviews (lady did not even allow DATY) and 0 for 1 on reviews on the big American review board, and Kama I think identified that the lady with the negative review used a different name with this group than she used as an escort on the local board (where she also has unfavorable reviews). That is just based in my memory, and it is just two ladies out of the many offering services with them, and you should do a search on the forum to find out which two have negative reviews. Feel free to try others, of course. One negative review of a lady should have no bearing on the others.

  11. #2422
    Back in post 1785, I identified a group of agencies that are part of the same "conglomerate" of agencies. In other words, they appear to be one big agency that has links to one another. In general, that is not a good sign, as it invites a person having a bad experience with one agency to simply try another one in the "group". If you examine the Partners and Top Links section of this page, you can see their affiliates.

    https://delightfulescort.com/honorarium/

    There was just one review of a lady from this conglomerate on ISG and it was unfavorable. That review was immediately intercepted by a first time poster who claimed to have had an absolutely wonderful experience with either that lady or one of the other advertised ladies. That is another bad sign. I think I remember there being an unfavorable review of one of their ladies a long time ago on the big American review board, but I am not 100 percent certain.

    But by all means, if you have the resources, feel free to use them and do a review. We have insufficient data to make a determination, and your experience will be very valuable. Note that in addition to the hourly fee, that is higher than the standard in Lisbon, they appear to charge a transportation fee. But if they offer true service anytime of the night with little or no advance booking, that would be great to know.

    I think you are overanalyzing the hotel situation. The attitudes about this activity are quite different in Portugal than Norway. You can let us know if you get a different result, but there are just not reports of hotels being unfriendly to well dressed upscale escorts any time of the day or night. Every country is different, and Portugal is a lot more like Germany than Norway.

    Good luck with the search. Hopefully you will do the first good report of a lady from this group.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnar2000  [View Original Post]
    Thanks everybody for insights! Invaluable when all is new and time is short.

    Question is: Are there good alternatives to escortprivada and apartadox? Have read forum, and seems like these are the ones being discussed and reported on. But googling, I see agencies like lisbonsweeties, escortgirl-lisbon, delightfulescort, and also something I remember as easyescort and attraction escort. Has anybody any experience with these?

    Escortprivada seems to really to cater to any mans needs, but problem is my limited timeframe. Will be in Lisbon with work, will stay in hotel with coworkers that can't know about it. Even though I'll be alone in room, only real option is to get visits after last drink is drunk and everybody are in rooms and not. Say in the hallway. Bumping into the girl they see exiting my room.

  12. #2421

    Are there alternatives?

    Thanks everybody for insights! Invaluable when all is new and time is short.

    Question is: Are there good alternatives to escortprivada and apartadox? Have read forum, and seems like these are the ones being discussed and reported on. But googling, I see agencies like lisbonsweeties, escortgirl-lisbon, delightfulescort, and also something I remember as easyescort and attraction escort. Has anybody any experience with these?

    Escortprivada seems to really to cater to any mans needs, but problem is my limited timeframe. Will be in Lisbon with work, will stay in hotel with coworkers that can't know about it. Even though I'll be alone in room, only real option is to get visits after last drink is drunk and everybody are in rooms and not. Say in the hallway. Bumping into the girl they see exiting my room.

    So, I'll get my shot at maybe 1,2,3 in the night, and will have to be able to call some place that can assist me rather quick. Other places than escortprivada advertise a 24/7 service. Off hand, I think fx lisbonsweeties does. Delightfulescort answered emails promptly, and say they'll help me. But can I trust them?

    Also hope there will be no hassle in reception. Have booked a double, as prices for singles and doubles w / o breakfast surprisingly are just the same. I'd think reception could protest nighttime visits to single rooms. (A double should have two sets of towels anyway.) In Norway I've seen signs posted in reception "no visitors after 2300". In Germany, I think they couldn't care less as long as you've booked for two.

    Again, thanks!

  13. #2420

    Elefante Branco re-opens

    There was an article in the local newspaper Correio the Manha:

    Elefante Branco abre com 200 convidados Festa será pomposa, segundo a direção. Entre os moradores corre o boato que as mulheres vão chegar them charrete.

    Ler mais them: https://www.cmjornal.pt/sociedade/de...200-convidados.

    Boîte promete recuperar a fama do Elefante Branco, que se estendeu além-fronteiras.

    Ler mais them: https://www.cmjornal.pt/sociedade/de...200-convidados.

    Translation: Elefante Branco opens with 200 invitees and a big fest. According to the management. .

    To new-commers to Lisbao: Elefante Branco was THE bar / meeting point in Lisbao with really really good selection of girls.

    Carlos.

  14. #2419

    Lisbon Delights.

    There is a vibrant SW scene in Lisbon but it is not for the faint hearted. I got three such: A Liberian for 20 e, hotel included (one shot), some forgettable Portuguese skank and the scariest one of my life who ended up getting 40 e out of me. She gave the first 20 to the "hotel" for the room for the night (for her) and for some crack, which she smoked in from of me and which devoured all her attention. She was a mother of five children. Lisbon is a lovely and cheap city with lots of red light walking areas and old style reed lights signifying hookers are at work. I stayed in the Indian quarter and had some good food, wine and beer to tithe me over.

    There were lots of such skanks around but they would turn you off sex for life.

    The tourist tram is a waste of time. Better and nicer to walk. Good subway system. And the ferry is worth taking to the far side for wine and fish food.

    Fatima is also worth a visit. The basilica is a bore but if you walk away form it, you get where the locals hang out. Good wines and buxom locals.

  15. #2418

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