Lisbon

[Nrlmus]

This is very interesting to me because I am in Rome now and considering a trip to Lisbon on Tuesday since it is I believe the only other major country in Europe that has warmish weather now besides here in Rome. But if they won't speak Portuguese with me when I want to practice then that's not good at all. Of course, you could always just say you don't speak English. Why didn't you fake it so you could practice?

Wasn't my goal to do so and my Portuguese is sufficient when need be. Plus I spent most of my trip in Cape Verde.

I was thinking of only going to Brazil for Portuguese but Portugal make work too. I think the dialect difference is big enough to warrant a trip to immerse myself in it and the girls.

Any suggestions for a small town not too far from Lisbon to visit for practicing the language as well as picking up non-P4P local girls?

In smaller towns the situation is not that different from Lisbon as far as non-P4P pick ups go. With Portuguese girls you always have a chance. Fewer people speak English but don't count on finding a young chick who doesn't speak English even on a family farm.

[MrNielsen]

Hi,

I am new in the town and looking for some excitements for the evenings.

Do you have any recommendations how to start exploring the night life?

Based on the reviews Gallery and Tamila should be good and safe to visit alone too, when some other gentlemen clubs had some weird comments about crazy bouncers and odd rules of spending money. Or what your experiences? What is the best place for private lap dances for example? And does anyone have experiences with Palace (couple of blocks from the Tamila).

Also if you have recommendations for great GFE girls around mid-twenties would be appreciated. Especially nice, good looking brown girls are in my interest.

And also what are your favorites massage places or masseurs?

Looking forward learning more about Lisbon nightlife!

[Johann2]

I have to make a side comment in that regard. Portugal is probably the worst place to learn Portuguese unless you go to some small town away from the beaten path but even there I suspect you may have problems. Why? Because everybody seem to speak English. Every Uber driver I took spoke English. Every person on the street with whom I tried to speak in Portuguese would quickly, upon detecting my accent, move into English. No. There was one who didn't but (surprise surprise!) he ended up being a Brazilian! That's right, so if you want to learn Portuguese go to Brazil because it ain't happening in Portugal.

This is very interesting to me because I am in Rome now and considering a trip to Lisbon on Tuesday since it is I believe the only other major country in Europe that has warmish weather now besides here in Rome. But if they won't speak Portuguese with me when I want to practice then that's not good at all. Of course, you could always just say you don't speak English. Why didn't you fake it so you could practice? I guess it's not a big deal since you're fluent though. I was thinking of only going to Brazil for Portuguese but Portugal make work too. I think the dialect difference is big enough to warrant a trip to immerse myself in it and the girls.

Any suggestions for a small town not too far from Lisbon to visit for practicing the language as well as picking up non-P4P local girls?

[Mongerer88]

Amaduess, here is a good list of addresses. Honestly, most guys would have listed Michelle's and New Center first, since they are the largest of the bunch in terms of Line Ups. Michelles seems to have the whole floor and New Center has a banner on its door. As far as I know, there is no change to the standard pricing of 60 euros for a half hour and 100 euros for an hour. One guy said he got 45 minutes for 80 euros. There are no reports of upsells, but it is wise to ask the madam which ladies do BBBJ, CIM and anal if those are important to you. Quality varies from day to day and place to place. Michelles gets the most reviews, for what that is worth.

They open late morning and close late evening. They aren't open all night, so don't be one of those drunken louts who wonders around the places at midnight banging on the doors and then comes back and complains that Lisbon sucks. These places are located in convenient downtown residential buildings and we have to show respect to the neighbors. Be glad Lisbon is not a place that limits this activity to dangerous red light areas in the middle of nowhere.

Guys,

Below is a list of addresses I've compiled from ISG ...

NewLux. Conde Sabugosa 21,1st FL. , right.

Jardim do Eden. Av. Joao XXI 43,3rd Floor, left.

Relax Corpo. Avenida de Berna, 23,2nd FL. , right.

Michelle & Assistentes. Av. Migual Bombarda 1, 3rd floor, left.

New Center. Av. Marques de Tomar 33,5th Floor, right.

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[Amadeuss]

Can anyone please help me with addresses of walk-ins at Lissabon?

And what would be the going rate?

Thanks.

[Mongerer88]

Baltix,

I did this summary a while ago regarding the escort scene.

If you will read the last 10 pages or so of the thread, you will find plenty of reviews of escortprivada. They are the only agency with a lot of reviews. Everyone's tastes differ, so some guys will live one given escort better than another one. For instance, one guy raved about Bruna, who I liked but did not totally love. I have had great success with this agency and I really loved Ana and Sara, who I saw a few months ago. I have read good reviews here and on other sites of Megan, Eva, Zara and Maria. There are a number of unreviewed ladies I would like to see based on the pics and service offerings, including Patricia, Marcia and Carlota, so new reviews are appreciated. If you search long enough, you will find reviews here of many others with this agency. I can't summarize them all. A lot of guys think that 150 euros is too much to spend, and if you are in that category, just pass on them.

I bumped this post because you need to be careful of the conglomerate of agencies that I mention below. They did a fake review by a one time poster named Guilhero or something similar in response to a negative real review and I could recognize from the syntax that it was the guy from that group of agencies doing the review. Just avoid that group in my opinion. They are jerks via email, anyway, and there are no good reviews anywhere.

The group escortgirl-lisbon advertises on ISG in the classified section and they have a nice website. The one review on ISG was unfavorable but that lady is no longer with the agency and the whole agency shouldn't be judged by one experience. It would be great to have some more reviews, and the pictures of some of their ladies are quite good. They do have incall, but their outcall is more expensive than escortprivada. If you are not a local, you probably will have a hotel room anyway, though.

There are some expensive independents in the 200-300 euro range that advertise on British oriented websites. At least one of them, Victoria, is favorably reviewed on ISG. But I personally don't see the advantage over escortprivada at 150 euros, because there are plenty of hot 18-29 year olds with that agency who offer all the standard services including CIM and anal, that are detailed on the agency website.

That pretty much summarizes what I know about the agency scene.

There are an incredible number of independents charging significantly less than 150 euros an hour, who often offer half hour sessions. That is the market most accessed by the locals, and I am sure it is an excellent market and I do not dispute that it has very pretty girls who offer liberal services. The service standards in Lisbon are high compared to most of Europe, with BBBJ being fairly standard among most reviewed independents. There are many links in the last few pages to many of these independents. One ad site that has a lot of pictures is apartadox. The local review site gp-pt.net has a lot of reviews that you need to use Google Translate to read once you join the site.

John166,

Here is what I have observed and read about the Lisbon escort service agencies:

I swear I once read a review of the agency you linked to, but I cannot locate it now. I think the review was neither particularly good or bad, just a standard incall session in a downtown apartment. I remember following this agency on Twitter for a while, and they seem to be independent and upstanding. It would be great to have a review of them, so please do a report if you see someone.

There are a couple of agencies and conglomerates to be cautious of. A group of independents came together and formed Best Escorts Portugal, which appeared promising since many of the ladies had been operating independently for a long time, but in the very first review of them on the big American review site, an experienced reviewer indicated that he received a blatant bait and switch and terrible performance.

There is a conglomerate of escort services that link to each other. Easy Outcall Escort, Unforgettable Escorts, Attraction Escorts, Lissabon Escorts, Delightful Escorts, Flirt Escorts, Escorts Lisbon, Cascais Escorts, Estoril Escorts, and Algarve Holiday Escorts that appear to be one big agency. There are very few, if any, reviews of this group other than a blatantly fake review on this site that a guy got called out on. I tried to communicate with them once and I found them to be rude. I did not have a good impression of them.

If you will read the last 20 pages of this forum, you will find a number of very good reviews of the escortprivada agency. My experiences with them have been extremely good and I will continue to use them. They do outcall, communicate perfectly in English, and most importantly the ladies have looked like the pictures, showed up on time, and have provided great service. I am unsure whether or not they have an incall location like the agency you linked to, but hotels in Lisbon are girl-friendly for outcall.

I think that pretty much sums up the Lisbon agency escort scene, though I would enjoy reading the opinions of others, and we certainly look forward to your reviews.

[Nrlmus]

Sooner or later, somebody is going to say that I'm biased, in a bad way, towards Brazilian escorts. But that attitude (which is not at all extinct) tends to happen more often with them. Not all, of course, and, among the Portuguese ones, in that respect, some plead guilty, too. But, as a whole, I'd say things were never better.

While my sample size is not as large as your's, and not large enough to judge a population, I must say that I have received better service from Venezuelans and Colombians in Europe compared to Brazilians. My understanding is that the local rate for sex work in Colombia and Venezuela is less than in Brazil, so perhaps the ladies working in Europe from these countries are more motivated. Both of the Brazilians I have seen in Lisbon were part of a threesomes at brothels where the local Portuguese lady took the lead. I thought that was due to the fact that the Portuguese lady spoke English, but maybe not. The guys on ISG who go to Brazil really rave about the place, but I am not sure that carries over to Brazilians in Europe. Maybe the best Brazilian sex workers don't go to Portugal, but stay in Brazil or go to a country where the rate is higher than Portugal.

One great thing about Lisbon is the combination of Portuguese, South American, and African ladies. So many colors, shapes and sizes to choose from. The wide availability of hard working local sex workers in Portugal is so different than so many countries in Northern Europe where immigrants seem to make up a very large percentage of the sex workers.

As someone who spent a lot of time in Brazil I can attest that since about mid-2000's it became much more difficult to find a Brazilian GFE outside of Brazil then it was beforehand. That doesn't apply only to Portugal but also to the states and I suspect other places. The reasons?

My explanations is that everything comes to / from Brazil with a bit of delay. There were all GFEs when in the states many local providers would have a lot of restrictions. The word eventually got to Brazil and Brazilians began imitating local ones when they went abroad. However lately at least in the states GFE has become more of a default among American ladies, at least in my experience, while for local Brasileiras non-GFE is still a norm. At some point it will change back to the way it was. I suspect the same would be true for Portugal.

In my (too short of a) stay in Portugal I think I figured out the following: it seem to me that many foreign (non-Brazilian) girls who come to work there try to better Portuguese girls in the GFE department. I saw two women: Dutch Zara Whites from escortprivada and indie Larissa, the Russian (twice). Both were real GFEs, with superior skills. The funniest thing is that I speak pretty good Portuguese and several times I tried to see a Portuguese girl but every time it would fall through.

Zara is about 26 with a typical Girl Next Door look about her. She is fully uninhibited in her behavior with a distinct adventurous side and seemed to be open to anything. There were some circumstances that made the appointment less fun than it should've been but I suspect it wouldn't have been for that I would've been singing more praises to her. One tip, try to get her from the late afternoon on and not beforehand. Would I repeat. Yes. She speaks fluent English but her Portuguese is suspect, at least it was so in late January and I suspect that hasn't changed much since. You'd ask why.

I have to make a side comment in that regard. Portugal is probably the worst place to learn Portuguese unless you go to some small town away from the beaten path but even there I suspect you may have problems. Why? Because everybody seem to speak English. Every Uber driver I took spoke English. Every person on the street with whom I tried to speak in Portuguese would quickly, upon detecting my accent, move into English. No. There was one who didn't but (surprise surprise!) he ended up being a Brazilian! That's right, so if you want to learn Portuguese go to Brazil because it ain't happening in Portugal.

Larissa is a gem. She is in her late 30's but looks younger. The main difference between the two is that while Zara would act super GFE and like if she was ready for one night stand but would practically go with anyone while with Larissa you'd will feel special. She knows what to say, she knows how to touch. The younger girls by definition wouldn't be privy to that, moreover many MILFs could learn a thing or two from Larissa as well. I already sung her praises in my previous post so I won't repeat myself. I'd say only that when on my last day in Portugal Natalie Glam (the only one I were ready to TOFTT with) and Ana Castro (several good reviews here) were unavailable I went back to Larissa for a sure bet.

[BaltiX]

What are the best sites for escorts, both agencies and independents? I'm not too familiar with the sex scene in Lisbon, but it seems interesting.

[Mongerer88]

Sooner or later, somebody is going to say that I'm biased, in a bad way, towards Brazilian escorts. But that attitude (which is not at all extinct) tends to happen more often with them. Not all, of course, and, among the Portuguese ones, in that respect, some plead guilty, too. But, as a whole, I'd say things were never better.

While my sample size is not as large as your's, and not large enough to judge a population, I must say that I have received better service from Venezuelans and Colombians in Europe compared to Brazilians. My understanding is that the local rate for sex work in Colombia and Venezuela is less than in Brazil, so perhaps the ladies working in Europe from these countries are more motivated. Both of the Brazilians I have seen in Lisbon were part of a threesomes at brothels where the local Portuguese lady took the lead. I thought that was due to the fact that the Portuguese lady spoke English, but maybe not. The guys on ISG who go to Brazil really rave about the place, but I am not sure that carries over to Brazilians in Europe. Maybe the best Brazilian sex workers don't go to Portugal, but stay in Brazil or go to a country where the rate is higher than Portugal.

One great thing about Lisbon is the combination of Portuguese, South American, and African ladies. So many colors, shapes and sizes to choose from. The wide availability of hard working local sex workers in Portugal is so different than so many countries in Northern Europe where immigrants seem to make up a very large percentage of the sex workers.

[Kama Leão]

Another good thing is the basic honesty that prevails in Lisbon. An hour is an hour and the customer can climax as often as he can. None of the, oh you came, I guess we are done, bullshit that exists in many parts of the world.

Sooner or later, somebody is going to say that I'm biased, in a bad way, towards Brazilian escorts. But that attitude (which is not at all extinct) tends to happen more often with them. Not all, of course, and, among the Portuguese ones, in that respect, some plead guilty, too. But, as a whole, I'd say things were never better.

[Mongerer88]

What do you guys think about the sex scene in Lisbon?

From a standpoint of getting laid with an attractive lady at a reasonable price with liberal services and no upsells or a la carte menus, it is excellent.

That doesn't fit into a lot of agendas of ISG guys who like the all day experience of an FKK with viewing multiple girls and interacting with them, and does not fit into the agendas of guys who like an all-night partying scene at brothels. So Lisbon doesn't get the number of posts that other countries in Europe get.

The lack of upselling is so wonderful for those of us that think BBBJ should be standard and really appreciate the availability of CIM and anal. Negotiating a price is just not that erotic in my opinion, and Lisbon is one of the few places where a provider does everything she is willing to do in a session for a flat price. So it becomes a question of finding the right lady, since a pretty girl who does GFE, CIM, Greek and / or BDSM likely charges the exact same as a bitchy skank chick who does a lousy session with CBJs. Fortunately, there are more good ones than bad ones. Another good thing is the basic honesty that prevails in Lisbon. An hour is an hour and the customer can climax as often as he can. None of the, oh you came, I guess we are done, bullshit that exists in many parts of the world.

That having been said, it is not the easiest market in the world for non-locals. I often review my favorite escort service and they communicate in English and try to specify the services offered by the ladies, most of which are in the 18-29 year old range. Beyond them, it is difficult to find reviews of outcall escort services from agencies, and some of the reviews from the other agencies are not favorable. Of course, an outcall escort must be booked in advance and that not seem to fit into the lifestyle of many ISG posters.

There are several large walk-in brothels, but the looks of the ladies and availability of liberal services vary widely. Reviews are few and far between and you just have to show up and pick. The madam might be able to help with who does what, but you have to ask. There is no effort, even by the two big brothels, to keep an accurate website schedule or to answer emails. And they are not open all night, since they are in residential apartments with other tenants.

Most locals do not use escort services, presumably because of the higher cost and the need for a hotel room, and most of the locals who write reviews do not seem to frequent the large brothels. There are a great number of independent escorts and very small boutique brothels (perhaps it is more appropriate to say shared apartments) with excellent reviews on the local forum, their prices are lower than the outcall escort services, and they generally offer liberal services. Perhaps it is getting better, but the difference in Lisbon compared to many other parts of Europe is that many of the independent escorts operate by telephone calls instead of emails / texts / whatsapp messages. That can make it difficult for a non-Portuguese speaker to communicate with them using Google Translate and to be able to book ahead and to find their incall. There are an increasing number of much appreciated reviews on ISG of these ladies, so hopefully there will be a gradual database of independent escorts that are easy to book by non-Portuguese speakers. The ads on the independent escort advertising sites rarely mention prices, so joining the local forum is useful when researching the local independent escorts.

[BaltiX]

What do you guys think about the sex scene in Lisbon?

[Kama Leão]

Thanks Kama. It is a shame that Luna does not speak English (unfortunately same with Irina). Do you know her outcall rate?

1 hour /100 is the incall. I suppose outcalls will be 150 (it's the usual rate). But you'd better ask her.

Any other recommendations of non-Brazilian girls?

Apart from Larissa and Ana Sofia (see my previous posts), Carmo https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-Carmo-3198.html or Carlota Amorim / Sarah Sweet (both are the same) http://modelox.net/carlota-amorim/ , https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...orim-2623.html , http://www.docemassagem.com/massagis...ota_amorim_05/ .

I will soon elaborate on them and a few others too.

[Member #4474]

Thanks Kama. It is a shame that Luna does not speak English (unfortunately same with Irina). Do you know her outcall rate?

Any other recommendations of non-Brazilian girls?

[Kama Leão]

Of course, all sorts of market manipulation happen. In every possible (and opposite) direction. So you have to be very patient, read all of them, try and get acquainted with the local hobbyists tastes and drives, sort them out and make your choice. Yeah, it's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.

I've never been with Irina Ferraz. For two main reasons: the uneven quality reported in her reviews and the fact that she's... Brazilian. No xenophobia, here. Simply the fact that the majority of Brazilian sex workers in Portugal tend to the mercenary attitude with little or no GFE elements involved.

I would only recomend Petra https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...oniz-2453.html (despite the tiny tits, a great shag) and Luna https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...alli-2726.html (porn star quality guaranteed).