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  1. #5316
    Portugal is what it is.

    Most of us try to be honest about that from the outset.

    Portugal is a First World country with Second World pricing.

    It isn't a Third World country with Third World women anxiously and sometimes desperately awaiting the arrival of a customer to make her needed quota for the day. Nor is it a First World country like Germany that imports its sex work labor from the Third World (maybe I should say Second World labor since Romania is in Europe) and has fully legal incall.

    Most of the sex workers in Portugal do this part time. And there is less immigration compared to Spain of foreign ladies from the poorest countries in Central and South America like Venezuela and Colombia. Most of the immigrants to Portugal are from Brazil and Northern Africa, and do sex work part time like their Portuguese-born sisters.

    There is almost zero Asian scene in Portugal, so "erotic massage" doesn't equal full-service sex for every lady at an erotic massage parlor. It does for some if them, but because it is illegal in Lisbon for a massage parlor to advertise sex, you can't go in guns blazing and demand it, especially outside of the massage room.

    The service level in Portugal is high, and the prices are lower or comparable, compared to other countries in Western Europe. But no, it isn't a good sex with no appointment, or sex within an hour, destination. That is true even for local Johns. On the local board, the sessions with the independents and outcall EP ladies are scheduled in advance, usually more than an hour or two before the session.

    All negatives aside, the Lisbon ladies do respond to messages and do keep appointments that are made, and they welcome foreign tourists. There are plenty of destinations where that is not the case. And women are equals and can go to a hotel and take the elevator all the way up to your room unmolested, unlike many of the Second and Third World countries. The First World ain't all bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    1. No full service clubs outside a couple of clip-joints as far as I know. That's why Lisbon is such a poor mongering venue compared to say Frankfurt.

    3. I paid 2 visits to massage places in the Picoas district. Didn 't like it at all. Cooking oil charade. Not my cup of tea. However the "mamasan" talked to me before I left and insisted if there was anything special I desired I only needed to talk. The problem might be that massage girl on average were less hot than girls advertising online.

    4. When do you need a girl? I need sex in early afternoon at the latest. That's why Lisbon was a disaster for me. 95% of girls get going as of 5 pm. Alfama is a 100% tourist area. The downtown districts with mongering venues are Picoas, Saldanha, Campo pequeno, Entrecampos. The Lisbon underground (metro) is your friend.

    5. Those girls are legit but the pictures don't say much about how hot a girl really is once she is naked in your room. There are reviews in the local forum but not that many. That forum is hell to navigate. I didn't get much out of it in spite of being proficient in Portuguese.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4neYSd9rKE

  2. #5315
    Portugal is not like Tijuana or Thailand. Although there are some upscale pick-up clubs, they are more expensive than escorts and there are few, if any, love motels near the clubs. So you take the lady back to your own hotel, putting you in no different of a situation than getting outcall. Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but the elements of it are illegal, which makes it very difficult for a club to operate and essentially offer sex in the facility.

    You can get a relatively lower-cost hotel room away from your friends and have an escort like Vivian Miller domoutcall to your secret little hotel room. But the EP ladies won't get the room for you. The non-EP ladies have their own incall rooms.

    The majority of posters going to the Nuru Spa and asking for the Relaxing Massage report getting full service. But there are no guaranties. You will get something erotic if you happen to get a lady who doesn't do full service, but you will probably get full service. You could consider contacting them and asking the price for the Relaxing Massage and / or the Fetish Massage. No guaranties that there couldn't be an upsell, but reports haven't indicated that upselling is prevalent there.

    https://www.nuruspas.com/en/contacto

    Response time varies from lady to lady. Well thought of Ines Vaz has been reported as responding nicely to last minute incall bookings.

    https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

    You should be able to make a nice list of recommended ladies from the last 20-30 pages here on ISG. That is your best insurance against too much photoshopping.

    Quote Originally Posted by GymJunkieee  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    Thank you all for the great information found in this thread. I went back 22 pages and gathered a list of girls I want to visit while I am in Lisbon next week! A few questions I have that I was hoping I could get answered before I get there.

    1. Are there any full service "clubs"? Like where you can visit and select from a selection of girls walking around and go to a room. I am familiar with Tijuana and Thailand and this may be the best experience for me as I will be limited on time and when I can or cannot schedule a date (traveling with friends).

    2. Outcall is not an option for me. Has anyone ever had luck having an outcall only girl such as Vivian Miller do in calls?

    3. Is NuruSpa a full service spa? Based off this thread it seems like it, and that I would have to ask for a relaxing massage. What is the cost for this?

    4. how quick do girls typically respond? As I mentioned, I'll only have a few windows of opportunity and would need something scheduled within the hour once I start messaging. Also, does anyone know of any verified girls that stay near Alfama area?

    5. Lastly, for sites such as portalprivado and apartadox. Is it safe to assume that since these women are photo verified that they are legit? How can I read their reviews? There are so many to choose from!

    Thanks and much appreciated. I will leave a final report after I leave Lisbon.

  3. #5314
    Quote Originally Posted by GymJunkieee  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    Thank you all for the great information found in this thread. I went back 22 pages and gathered a list of girls I want to visit while I am in Lisbon next week! A few questions I have that I was hoping I could get answered before I get there.

    1. Are there any full service "clubs"? Like where you can visit and select from a selection of girls walking around and go to a room. I am familiar with Tijuana and Thailand and this may be the best experience for me as I will be limited on time and when I can or cannot schedule a date (traveling with friends).

    2. Outcall is not an option for me. Has anyone ever had luck having an outcall only girl such as Vivian Miller do in calls?

    3. Is NuruSpa a full service spa? Based off this thread it seems like it, and that I would have to ask for a relaxing massage. What is the cost for this?

    4. how quick do girls typically respond? As I mentioned, I'll only have a few windows of opportunity and would need something scheduled within the hour once I start messaging. Also, does anyone know of any verified girls that stay near Alfama area?

    5. Lastly, for sites such as portalprivado and apartadox. Is it safe to assume that since these women are photo verified that they are legit? How can I read their reviews? There are so many to choose from!

    Thanks and much appreciated. I will leave a final report after I leave Lisbon.
    1. No full service clubs outside a couple of clip-joints as far as I know. That's why Lisbon is such a poor mongering venue compared to say Frankfurt.

    3. I paid 2 visits to massage places in the Picoas district. Didn 't like it at all. Cooking oil charade. Not my cup of tea. However the "mamasan" talked to me before I left and insisted if there was anything special I desired I only needed to talk. The problem might be that massage girl on average were less hot than girls advertising online.

    4. When do you need a girl? I need sex in early afternoon at the latest. That's why Lisbon was a disaster for me. 95% of girls get going as of 5 pm. Alfama is a 100% tourist area. The downtown districts with mongering venues are Picoas, Saldanha, Campo pequeno, Entrecampos. The Lisbon underground (metro) is your friend.

    5. Those girls are legit but the pictures don't say much about how hot a girl really is once she is naked in your room. There are reviews in the local forum but not that many. That forum is hell to navigate. I didn't get much out of it in spite of being proficient in Portuguese.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4neYSd9rKE

  4. #5313

    First Trip

    Hi All,

    Thank you all for the great information found in this thread. I went back 22 pages and gathered a list of girls I want to visit while I am in Lisbon next week! A few questions I have that I was hoping I could get answered before I get there.

    1. Are there any full service "clubs"? Like where you can visit and select from a selection of girls walking around and go to a room. I am familiar with Tijuana and Thailand and this may be the best experience for me as I will be limited on time and when I can or cannot schedule a date (traveling with friends).

    2. Outcall is not an option for me. Has anyone ever had luck having an outcall only girl such as Vivian Miller do in calls?

    3. Is NuruSpa a full service spa? Based off this thread it seems like it, and that I would have to ask for a relaxing massage. What is the cost for this?

    4. how quick do girls typically respond? As I mentioned, I'll only have a few windows of opportunity and would need something scheduled within the hour once I start messaging. Also, does anyone know of any verified girls that stay near Alfama area?

    5. Lastly, for sites such as portalprivado and apartadox. Is it safe to assume that since these women are photo verified that they are legit? How can I read their reviews? There are so many to choose from!

    Thanks and much appreciated. I will leave a final report after I leave Lisbon.

  5. #5312
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    For future reference do working girls in Portugal respond to foreign numbers?

    Is she mixed?
    Rebecca Diniz is a "light-skinned" Black lady with some North African family heritage.

    There is probably a Caucasian ancestor or two somewhere in the family tree.

    I think she is "from" Portugal rather than a recent immigrant.

    Somewhere along the way she became fluent in Portuguese and English, which is indicative of being in Portugal from birth or from a young age.

    Portugal is a melting pot. In the really old days, many Jews settled there, and it had later significant immigration from Northern Africa and Brazil.

    So a lot of the ladies are "mixed" in some manner.

  6. #5311
    Yes. Messaging by Whatsapp is the norm. The main issue is not whether the number is foreign, but if it is blocking caller ID. Almost no one answers a message from a phone that blocks ID. Their safety.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    For future reference do working girls in Portugal respond to foreign numbers?

    Is she mixed?

  7. #5310
    For future reference do working girls in Portugal respond to foreign numbers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry1217  [View Original Post]
    Not surprising you had a great time with her. She got four 10/10 reviews on the local board within a few weeks of coming onto the scene and the 9's and 10's continued frequently despite the moderators sometimes discouraging reviews as she doesn't have an active ad most of the time.

    She actually has an active ad at the moment. It probably won't be there for long, so for those who want an idea of what she looks like, have a look:

    https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-...eca-diniz-6364
    Is she mixed?

  8. #5309
    Glad to be of some small service.

    Quote Originally Posted by DBoznach  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure who was the first to recommend Isis, maybe it was ExExpatriate? Anyway I'm here to say Thanks, that is a great recommendation!

    I was lucky enough to return to Lisbon for 48 hours. I've contacted both Isis and Angel from my last post before I got on the plane, and I was lucky again because this time Angel didn't reply but Isis did.

    https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

    We arranged everything via Whatsapp, super easy and fast. I arrived to her place which is a little drive from the tourist area of town. She buzzed me in and the moment I saw her smile I knew I was in good hands. 10 minutes later, we where both sitting naked on the bad, I saw her breast and I knew I have struck gold! She has an amazing body, wow! The session itself, well I would say it is far more professional than any other body2 body / nuru / tantra I ever had. It is more sensual and less sexual. I mean, there is that sexual part, and ohh boy so help me god was is sexual. But she is not the kind of massagista that lets you lead the way. She has an amazing plan of action, that plan includes her massaging your entire body and the highlight is an amazing TF until the happy end.

    A full hour costs 150 euro, which is quite a lot for an hour that doesn't even include OWO or FS. But it's worth it! I was out in the streets an hour later, smiling at strangers. I will probably come back, just have to find another excuse to return to Lisbon.

  9. #5308

    Isis. Massage

    I'm not sure who was the first to recommend Isis, maybe it was ExExpatriate? Anyway I'm here to say Thanks, that is a great recommendation!

    I was lucky enough to return to Lisbon for 48 hours. I've contacted both Isis and Angel from my last post before I got on the plane, and I was lucky again because this time Angel didn't reply but Isis did.

    https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

    We arranged everything via Whatsapp, super easy and fast. I arrived to her place which is a little drive from the tourist area of town. She buzzed me in and the moment I saw her smile I knew I was in good hands. 10 minutes later, we where both sitting naked on the bad, I saw her breast and I knew I have struck gold! She has an amazing body, wow! The session itself, well I would say it is far more professional than any other body2 body / nuru / tantra I ever had. It is more sensual and less sexual. I mean, there is that sexual part, and ohh boy so help me god was is sexual. But she is not the kind of massagista that lets you lead the way. She has an amazing plan of action, that plan includes her massaging your entire body and the highlight is an amazing TF until the happy end.

    A full hour costs 150 euro, which is quite a lot for an hour that doesn't even include OWO or FS. But it's worth it! I was out in the streets an hour later, smiling at strangers. I will probably come back, just have to find another excuse to return to Lisbon.

  10. #5307
    Not surprising you had a great time with her. She got four 10/10 reviews on the local board within a few weeks of coming onto the scene and the 9's and 10's continued frequently despite the moderators sometimes discouraging reviews as she doesn't have an active ad most of the time.

    She actually has an active ad at the moment. It probably won't be there for long, so for those who want an idea of what she looks like, have a look:

    https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-...eca-diniz-6364

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerMuskie  [View Original Post]
    I met with Rebecca while in Lisbon. I had a great time with Rebecca. She lives up to the hype and her other positives reviews here and on the local site. Easy incall setup in central part of town at 150/ HR includes just about everything. Rebecca has a good body and is a true service queen with DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS, and A level all done enthusiastically and with great skill. On top of the service Rebecca is nice and easy to talk with when catching your breath after doing the deed. I would definitely see her again.

    Thank you Rebecca! Take care until next time.

  11. #5306
    I know her, so I know the service is good. Recent local reports concur. As for what her angle is in being so greedy, I can't explain that. What I will tell you is that she was on my list for a return visit and lack of time is the main reason she got pushed off it. The nickel and diming was part of it, but secondary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    I dislike the drip pricing because it is dishonest and shows a girl is focused on short term money. If she is average, I would pass. If she has potential, I try to explain that she will make more with reliable, repeat clients. Smart girls understand that. Girls who are only interested in one session are seldom good.

  12. #5305
    Yes, the nuru massage scene of Lisbon is generally superior to the AMP scene in the US, and there are many options outside of Wayang offering prices that are comparable or cheaper than the US as well.

    Do you want some recommendations?

    Quote Originally Posted by SnarkHunter  [View Original Post]
    Had a good experience at Wayang. It is not for everyone. I appreciated the vibe of the place and the attractive provider and her skills at therapeutic as well as erotic massage. HJ finish, but I wasn't looking for FS. Went for full nude option, mutual touching (no penetration), two pops, 60 minutes, $$.5. A bit spendy but it was what I was looking for. Safe, clean, nice environment including shower. I only had two providers to choose from, but both were Europeans and very attractive. Most of my experience is with AMPS for half the price in the us, and this was much, much better than those.

  13. #5304

    Report on Rebecca Diniz

    I met with Rebecca while in Lisbon. I had a great time with Rebecca. She lives up to the hype and her other positives reviews here and on the local site. Easy incall setup in central part of town at 150/ HR includes just about everything. Rebecca has a good body and is a true service queen with DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS, and A level all done enthusiastically and with great skill. On top of the service Rebecca is nice and easy to talk with when catching your breath after doing the deed. I would definitely see her again.

    Thank you Rebecca! Take care until next time.

  14. #5303
    Quote Originally Posted by ExExpatriate  [View Original Post]
    I checked in with Aurora Vaz. I approached by asking if her rate was still 150/ h, and she said yes. But then she tried to nickel and dime me in other ways. I asked about doing 90 minutes, and she wanted her 30 minute rate (100) + her hour rate (150/ h) instead of 150% of the hour rate (250 vs 225). I really don't like that stunt. Some ladies in Lisbon do that normally, but not many, and it's a pretty stupid tactic. And then she asked for +50 because I asked her to wear something, which most ladies would take as simply good service.

    It's a shame she is being so mercenary. Oh well -- her loss.

    So, if you go this way, just ask about the 150 upfront. Do it in Portuguese (use translate if you must), and stick to the basic one hour. Mercenary or not, she is still a Portuguese (not Brasilian), very hot spinner in her late 30s, and ahe is very good in bed.
    I dislike the drip pricing because it is dishonest and shows a girl is focused on short term money. If she is average, I would pass. If she has potential, I try to explain that she will make more with reliable, repeat clients. Smart girls understand that. Girls who are only interested in one session are seldom good.

  15. #5302

    Wayang

    Had a good experience at Wayang. It is not for everyone. I appreciated the vibe of the place and the attractive provider and her skills at therapeutic as well as erotic massage. HJ finish, but I wasn't looking for FS. Went for full nude option, mutual touching (no penetration), two pops, 60 minutes, $$.5. A bit spendy but it was what I was looking for. Safe, clean, nice environment including shower. I only had two providers to choose from, but both were Europeans and very attractive. Most of my experience is with AMPS for half the price in the us, and this was much, much better than those.

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