Lisbon

[ExExpatriate]

Unless something changed, Genuine Tantric and Delirio Spa are both HJ-only houses. So if you want more service, go elsewhere.

And I think if someone is asking 200 e for a one hour incall session of any description, that is too much.

If you are looking for another massagista who does FS, have you considered Emily Carter?

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...e-emily-carter

Hi everyone,

This thread is amazing, thanks a lot for all your great reviews.

I'm going in Lisbon in a few weeks and have looked at much of the posts here, from what I understood Ines Vaz is a must-see when looking for a FS massage.

I'll probably have time to see another girl and I was wondering if anyone had info on these ones below, as I don't recall seeing their names in this thread:

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa : she'll be near my hotel and the 200 massage seems promising but I'm wondering if anyone had seen her.

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa : haven't seen anything for Delirio.

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

Thanks a lot for your feedbacks.

[Alaucan]

Hi everyone,

This thread is amazing, thanks a lot for all your great reviews.

I'm going in Lisbon in a few weeks and have looked at much of the posts here, from what I understood Ines Vaz is a must-see when looking for a FS massage.

I'll probably have time to see another girl and I was wondering if anyone had info on these ones below, as I don't recall seeing their names in this thread:

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa : she'll be near my hotel and the 200€ massage seems promising but I'm wondering if anyone had seen her.

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa : haven't seen anything for Delirio.

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

Thanks a lot for your feedbacks.

[ExExpatriate]

Some folks only come onto a forum to hate on a place that isn't a sex slavery market. Others only want to troll and argue.

The one thing I would NEVER tell someone who needs an appointment to start before 9 am is to not try. Because the worst that could happen is you wind up at zero, and that is what would happen anyway without trying. What do you have to lose? It's a long shot, but there aren't deposits or any of that BS at stake.

Whose advice do you want to take?

[XXL]

Hi fellow mongers.

Looking for esrly birds, 7 am-9 am appointments.

Since rest of day is filled with other activities.

Have nit found a way to figure this out directly from the ad.

Any info is much appreciated.

// Svenne.

Not a cat in hell's chance IMO. Even getting a girl in early afternoon is difficult. Girls who advertise "24/7" have "middle of the night" in mind.

[ExExpatriate]

That is a tough one, and I strongly doubt you'll get anyone to meet you at 7 or 8, but maybe 9 will work for you in some cases. The problem that I've run into and will probably snag you here is that plenty of incall ladies advertise they start at 11 or 12, but then you ask about starting at that time and they'll ask for something later. It's not because they have an appointment either, but because they don't actually start that early half the time.

But, there are two ladies with good or very good reputations that actually say they start at 9. I suggest starting with them.

Isabela Venturi.

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...sabela-venturi

Natalia Brandt.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/natalia-brandt/

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...ia-brandt-4789

These others also have good or very good reputations, and advertise as "24 hours a day," so maybe they will accommodate you:

Eller Rocha.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...ler-rocha-4428

Bella Azevedo.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...a-azevedo-7142

Andressa Braga.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...ssa-braga-5456

Clara PT.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/clara-portuguesa/

Hi fellow mongers.

Looking for esrly birds, 7 am-9 am appointments.

Since rest of day is filled with other activities.

Have nit found a way to figure this out directly from the ad.

Any info is much appreciated.

// Svenne.

[Svenne69]

Hi fellow mongers.

Looking for esrly birds, 7 am-9 am appointments.

Since rest of day is filled with other activities.

Have nit found a way to figure this out directly from the ad.

Any info is much appreciated.

// Svenne.

[ExExpatriate]

One of the reasons I discourage the use of Euroescortgirls, MassageRepublic and other internationalized sites is that some of the ladies who are listed on the local-only sources will mark up their prices to whatever the going rate is, and the going rate on the internationalized sites is higher.

The Korean girl is an example. I know she is on local-only ads -- that stupid face filter she uses is unmistakable -- She's been reviewed on the local board too, and she isn't asking 200/ h in those reviews. I am not going to dig it all up, because East Asian isn't my type and I don't remember where to find the links offhand. But I do remember reading all about her.

So, be aware. Some of the ladies use both the international and local ad sites and set the same price (120-150) on both. Eller Rocha is a good example. Some mark up for international sites, hoping to levy the tourist tax on you. And some are only on the international sites and mark up period, presumably because they don't want to work as much, but make more per session?

And always remember that higher prices don't always translate into services that are worth it.

I'm glad it worked out for you, and if you are happy with what you got at the price paid, that is all that matters. But for others, I'd advise them to proceed differently.

So, I was on vacation in Lisbon, and met with three incall escorts not from Brazil who responded to my message. Not that I have anything against Brazilian girls, but we have them in Porto as well, I wanted some diversity. The prices are quite a bit higher though (200 euro minimum, but this is the capital, and I hear that this is becoming the new average). Still, I was on vacation, and wanted to have some fun.

This time, I used eurogirlsescort.com, because ApartadoX didn't have anyone who caught my eye. Thankfully, using the filter to display only verified accounts makes it less of a gamble, and I didn't get fake photos (this time, but it has certainly happened before, use this site with caution).

Anyway, first I found Natasha from Ukraine (https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha/683573). We agreed to meet in the evening (looks like she has a regular job), I went to an apartment where she rented a room just for such work, and we had some fun. The photos are real, she even sent me pictures with her face visible. Nothing special to report here, the girl has great body, is pretty good at and seems to enjoy what she does. It looks more like a hobby to her.

The interesting part came the next day. I wrote to Nataree from Korea (https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/nataree/519122). This was my first time with an Asian girl, so I was glad she responded. Imagine my surprise when she directed me to the same address. At first I thought maybe it was a different apartment, but it turned out to be the exact same building, floor, apartment, and even room. I guess they rent it for specific hours, I don't know. So I met two different escorts in the same room and we did it on the same bed. What are the odds, right? As for Nataree, her photos are accurate as well, I enjoyed my time with her just a little bit more.

And my third time was also with an Asian, Juice (https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/juice/348814). It was a little better, because she had several reviews (https://gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=194&t=70398), and at least I knew she was real. I really enjoyed my time with this one, she also seemed to be pleased. Her apartment is pretty cool as well, although a little out of the way.

In general, I would say this vacation was a success, I would certainly visit the same girls again next time I'm in Lisbon.

[Mandibles]

So, I was on vacation in Lisbon, and met with three incall escorts not from Brazil who responded to my message. Not that I have anything against Brazilian girls, but we have them in Porto as well, I wanted some diversity. The prices are quite a bit higher though (200 euro minimum, but this is the capital, and I hear that this is becoming the new average). Still, I was on vacation, and wanted to have some fun.

This time, I used eurogirlsescort.com, because ApartadoX didn't have anyone who caught my eye. Thankfully, using the filter to display only verified accounts makes it less of a gamble, and I didn't get fake photos (this time, but it has certainly happened before, use this site with caution).

Anyway, first I found Natasha from Ukraine (https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha/683573). We agreed to meet in the evening (looks like she has a regular job), I went to an apartment where she rented a room just for such work, and we had some fun. The photos are real, she even sent me pictures with her face visible. Nothing special to report here, the girl has great body, is pretty good at and seems to enjoy what she does. It looks more like a hobby to her.

The interesting part came the next day. I wrote to Nataree from Korea (https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/nataree/519122). This was my first time with an Asian girl, so I was glad she responded. Imagine my surprise when she directed me to the same address. At first I thought maybe it was a different apartment, but it turned out to be the exact same building, floor, apartment, and even room. I guess they rent it for specific hours, I don't know. So I met two different escorts in the same room and we did it on the same bed. What are the odds, right? As for Nataree, her photos are accurate as well, I enjoyed my time with her just a little bit more.

And my third time was also with an Asian, Juice (https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/juice/348814). It was a little better, because she had several reviews (https://gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=194&t=70398), and at least I knew she was real. I really enjoyed my time with this one, she also seemed to be pleased. Her apartment is pretty cool as well, although a little out of the way.

In general, I would say this vacation was a success, I would certainly visit the same girls again next time I'm in Lisbon.

[TigerMuskie]

Sounds good. I am going to try and meet with Rebecca Diniz, Eller Rocha, Lunna Cardoza or Amanda Marquez. The thing is, I speak very little to zero Portuguese and Spanish. I'm trying to avoid the tourist tax, is it safe to use Google translate and ask if they speak any English? It's not mandatory but I usually like to speak a bit between rounds instead of making it awkward if that makes sense.

I saw Rebecca and Amanda recently. They won't tax you. When you contact them by WhatsApp they have an auto-reply message giving you info on their services including price in both Portuguese and English. Rebecca speaks good English. Amanda after meeting, I switched to Spanish as her English is basic. They are both nice ladies and should treat you right. I wanted to meet with Eller but didn't have time. Interested in a report out if you meet her.

[GymJunkieee]

"There are still some excellent providers around asking 120/ h". That's what is important not to forget. And I mean excelent. And, in some cases, even less than that and still excellent. And I mean excelent.

But if you refuse to see beyond the EP horizon, things will get more difficult, that's for sure.

Sounds good. I am going to try and meet with Rebecca Diniz, Eller Rocha, Lunna Cardoza or Amanda Marquez. The thing is, I speak very little to zero Portuguese and Spanish. I'm trying to avoid the tourist tax, is it safe to use Google translate and ask if they speak any English? It's not mandatory but I usually like to speak a bit between rounds instead of making it awkward if that makes sense.

[ExExpatriate]

Don't expect MSOG if you only book 30 minutes. It is customary to get two shots ("opportunities" in local slang) for an hour, but you should clearly state that you want that when making the booking. Customary doesn't mean everyone offers it. Also, that doesn't mean the lady is going to let you start your second go in the last five minutes.

During my last trip, I had two ho-hum and one decent outing for my first forays, but in the middle I unexpectedly had many fires to put out and lost a good bit of playtime. So I decided to use what little time I had left after that to stick with ladies who were already well-known to me. I've written about them before and have nothing to add.

[Mongerer88]

Thank you XXL, Monger88 for your detailed responses.

I have a short list of incall girls I'm going to contact as soon as I land and set something up. Thank you for your advice on Inez. She was on my list and is going to be a solid backup in case I do not get a response. I am hoping I can schedule something for early morning or afternoon if possible so I will reach out and see if that's possible with a few.

Is it normal to have MSOG (at least two rounds) during the hour service?

Thanks.

For the highly rated independents and the most recommended EP ladies, yes they spend the full hour and it is fine if you come twice.

We try to identify and exclude from recommended lists the ladies who don't spend the full hour. Unfortunately, that is the norm among the Do Not See EP ladies.

[GymJunkieee]

Dear Mongerer88,

I have been regularly visiting Lisbon (and Barcelona) since 1996. I completely agree with you, even though the scene in Lisbon was significantly different and much better until around 2004-2005. There were many independent and young girls available before, and the costs were incomparably lower back then. However, I still believe Lisbon offers the best ratio between quality and costs in Europe, at least in the western part. I think only Barcelona could compete with Lisbon at the moment, but it is my second option.

For example, Lila, a South African girl that I met many times between 2018 and 2019, thanks to the suggestions of Mongerer88, provided me with an unforgettable experience. I am still searching for a girl like Lila. I will try with Rebecca Diniz in a few weeks. I will inform you.

Thank you XXL, Monger88 for your detailed responses.

I have a short list of incall girls I'm going to contact as soon as I land and set something up. Thank you for your advice on Inez. She was on my list and is going to be a solid backup in case I do not get a response. I am hoping I can schedule something for early morning or afternoon if possible so I will reach out and see if that's possible with a few.

Is it normal to have MSOG (at least two rounds) during the hour service?

Thanks.

[Emeli67]

Dear Mongerer88,

I have been regularly visiting Lisbon (and Barcelona) since 1996. I completely agree with you, even though the scene in Lisbon was significantly different and much better until around 2004-2005. There were many independent and young girls available before, and the costs were incomparably lower back then. However, I still believe Lisbon offers the best ratio between quality and costs in Europe, at least in the western part. I think only Barcelona could compete with Lisbon at the moment, but it is my second option.

For example, Lila, a South African girl that I met many times between 2018 and 2019, thanks to the suggestions of Mongerer88, provided me with an unforgettable experience. I am still searching for a girl like Lila. I will try with Rebecca Diniz in a few weeks. I will inform you.

Portugal is what it is.

Most of us try to be honest about that from the outset.

Portugal is a First World country with Second World pricing.

It isn't a Third World country with Third World women anxiously and sometimes desperately awaiting the arrival of a customer to make her needed quota for the day. Nor is it a First World country like Germany that imports its sex work labor from the Third World (maybe I should say Second World labor since Romania is in Europe) and has fully legal incall.

Most of the sex workers in Portugal do this part time. And there is less immigration compared to Spain of foreign ladies from the poorest countries in Central and South America like Venezuela and Colombia. Most of the immigrants to Portugal are from Brazil and Northern Africa, and do sex work part time like their Portuguese-born sisters.

There is almost zero Asian scene in Portugal, so "erotic massage" doesn't equal full-service sex for every lady at an erotic massage parlor. It does for some if them, but because it is illegal in Lisbon for a massage parlor to advertise sex, you can't go in guns blazing and demand it, especially outside of the massage room..

[Mongerer88]

Portugal is what it is.

Most of us try to be honest about that from the outset.

Portugal is a First World country with Second World pricing.

It isn't a Third World country with Third World women anxiously and sometimes desperately awaiting the arrival of a customer to make her needed quota for the day. Nor is it a First World country like Germany that imports its sex work labor from the Third World (maybe I should say Second World labor since Romania is in Europe) and has fully legal incall.

Most of the sex workers in Portugal do this part time. And there is less immigration compared to Spain of foreign ladies from the poorest countries in Central and South America like Venezuela and Colombia. Most of the immigrants to Portugal are from Brazil and Northern Africa, and do sex work part time like their Portuguese-born sisters.

There is almost zero Asian scene in Portugal, so "erotic massage" doesn't equal full-service sex for every lady at an erotic massage parlor. It does for some if them, but because it is illegal in Lisbon for a massage parlor to advertise sex, you can't go in guns blazing and demand it, especially outside of the massage room.

The service level in Portugal is high, and the prices are lower or comparable, compared to other countries in Western Europe. But no, it isn't a good sex with no appointment, or sex within an hour, destination. That is true even for local Johns. On the local board, the sessions with the independents and outcall EP ladies are scheduled in advance, usually more than an hour or two before the session.

All negatives aside, the Lisbon ladies do respond to messages and do keep appointments that are made, and they welcome foreign tourists. There are plenty of destinations where that is not the case. And women are equals and can go to a hotel and take the elevator all the way up to your room unmolested, unlike many of the Second and Third World countries. The First World ain't all bad.

1. No full service clubs outside a couple of clip-joints as far as I know. That's why Lisbon is such a poor mongering venue compared to say Frankfurt.

3. I paid 2 visits to massage places in the Picoas district. Didn 't like it at all. Cooking oil charade. Not my cup of tea. However the "mamasan" talked to me before I left and insisted if there was anything special I desired I only needed to talk. The problem might be that massage girl on average were less hot than girls advertising online.

4. When do you need a girl? I need sex in early afternoon at the latest. That's why Lisbon was a disaster for me. 95% of girls get going as of 5 pm. Alfama is a 100% tourist area. The downtown districts with mongering venues are Picoas, Saldanha, Campo pequeno, Entrecampos. The Lisbon underground (metro) is your friend.

5. Those girls are legit but the pictures don't say much about how hot a girl really is once she is naked in your room. There are reviews in the local forum but not that many. That forum is hell to navigate. I didn't get much out of it in spite of being proficient in Portuguese.


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