Lisbon

[Mongerer88]

Hi FalconStar,

You can try White Elephant (Elefante Branco), lots of working girls of different varieties hang out there, and you can chat with them, negotiate, and take to your hotel. Please note, that entrance ticket there is 50 EUR (and you get two drinks), when you take the girl to hotel you usually have to pay for her drink too. I just give 25 EUR to the barmen (without the drink), and he seemed to be OK with it.

Abox79,

There are no brothels. Strictly speaking, they are illegal. They were once tolerated, but the government formally shut down Michelle's, and the others informally disappeared over the succeeding years.

Many of the independents share a trick pad, and they sometimes hang out at the trick pad between sessions. Some have relationships with taxi drivers. So sometimes you will read a report, especially in the Porto section, of a taxi driver taking a customer to some "brothel." That is usually a trick pad, and he calls ahead to make sure there are enough ladies (like two or three) hanging out there to do a line-up. That is likely the only time they do a line-up.

Usually they don't charge more in this situation, leaving one to wonder how the cab driver is compensated. If you get to talking to a male Vegas taxi driver about sex, he will often mention taking you to a full-service massage parlor that he likes. I suspect he has a little punch card. Bring 5 customers and he gets a free session or something like that.

There is nothing like German FKKs. Not only would that be illegal under the pimping and pandering rules (just like formal brothels are), it simply isn't part of the culture. There are not Romanians in Lisbon who arrived by car with the intention of living at a big facility where they have sex with customers.

The closest thing that Lisbon has is Elephant Branco, a supper club where you mingle with women, eat, drink, and bring one back to your hotel. That process is significantly more expensive than booking an escort. And a not insignificant number of the Elephant Branco reports indicate that the customer received a CBJ as part of the sexual experience after paying a lot to bring her back to the hotel.

We are the least cliquish group on ISG. I just took the time to list like 18 recommended independents. I am not sure I listed Ella Rocha since she doesn't have a current ad, but will likely return soon.

https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4428

There are 22 Escort Privada ladies with an overall Recommended stamp, including an Upper Echelon of four or five who most everyone has a great time with. I can list them if you want.

That makes over 40 ladies to communicate with and choose from. Most of that 40 or so ladies are in their 30's in ages. But there is a solid representation of ladies in their 20's. All of the recommended ladies do BBBJ to the best of my knowledge. Plenty of those 40 or so ladies do anal sex. BDSM is not a huge part of the scene, but within those 40 or so providers, you will find submissive, switches and doms. A representation of mostly local Portuguese, but lots of Brazilians and some African heritage like Joana Montenegro of EP, who gets nothing but excellent reviews and would be a solid choice. Boobs and butts of all sizes on the list.

This is how the world works now outside of Germany and Brazil. You make choices based on limited pictures and interaction, so reviews are important. A lot of people don't like it, but none of us know what to say other than go to Germany or Brazil, then. Women in the Western World generally don't go to a central facility, wait for customers, and fuck them there.

[Pyrrhus]

If you think EP is too expensive, then they probably are, and you will come back and complain like you did about the options everyone took the time and effort to give you in the Barcelona thread. Iberia is different than Budapest.

Lisbon does not have a central meeting place for inexpensive incall escorts. Its clubs are more expensive than its incall and outcall escorts.

Here is a list of incall escorts with excellent reviews who will likely offer you 30 and 45 minute options that are less expensive than outcall from Escort Privada. You will send them messages using WhatsApp in Portuguese. You can use Google Translate to go to and from your native tongue to Portuguese. Uber is active in Lisbon and you can use it to get to each lady's incall. That is how it works in Portugal for incall escorts. A few will be able to read and write English, but start by sending your message in both translated Portuguese and English to find out.

Thank you for the reply but I think the Barcelona comment was a little uncalled for. From what I can recall, nobody on there made any recommendations that were particularly intended for me and my complaints were about the Barca private houses, never about anyone on the forum or the advice they gave.

It's not that EP is "too expensive," it's just more expensive than I'd normally pay. I probably have the spare cash for two or three massages and two or three full services (assuming I'm paying EP rates.) Given those limitations, I want to be as sure as I can be that they're all good experiences.

Thanks for the list. I'll look through it this evening.

For recommendations on specific ladies, I suggest either reviewing this forum back to the summer, asking about who you are interested in by name or both. I myself covered four ladies just recently, others have made solid contributions, and some of us are aware of the wider chatter generally. You mentioned being on a budget -- you could ask about the known options for 100 and 120 an hour if that mattered more to you than getting your type.

EP is outcall only. The girls go to hotels, Air BnBs and private homes, and they only charge for transportation if the location is outside Lisbon proper.

The thing about EP and the photo-verified sites is the girl you get us the one advertising. There is no bait and switch. The only unreliability is that sometimes the photos are a few years old. On EP, for example, Alexandra Mendes, Sara Valente and Carolina the'Almeida haven't done a new photoshoot since before the pandemic. But from what I've heard, the pics are still very accurate for Valente and Mendes.

If a girl isn't showing her face, it's because she wants to retain discretion about her identity and profession. Most massagistas don't care, because they aren't prostitutes; many Brazilians don't care because they aren't staying in Portugal. But a lot of others care very much about their work following them home. So, I doubt they will send you a head shot if you ask for one. They made a choice and are likely to stick with it.

Cascais and Estoril are beach suburbs of Lisbon, so they are often lumped in with Lisbon as a whole because guys will go out to or find themselves in the burbs. About half of those ladies in Cascais are a short walk from a Linha de Cascais rail station.

You should also look at docemassgem, somassagens and Momentosdeprazer

I'm not on a budget to the extent that I'd forgo getting my type in order to save money. As I said above, it's more a case of being limited to the number of encounters I can stretch to during my three weeks.

I can fully understand why girls would not want to show their faces. It just makes it difficult to choose someone when you only have pictures of their bodies.

Are the girls usually honest about their nationality? I'd much prefer to have local Portuguese girls than Brazilians. I've nothing against Brazilians but I'd rather have girls who are local to the country I am in and it's much harder to tell when you can't see their faces. I visited Brazil just before the pandemic and had my fair share of Brazilian ladies already.

Also, many of the girls on EP appear to offer rimming for an additional 30. Can anyone recommend a girl who is actually good at it? Most of my paid-for rimming experiences have lacked enthusiasm.

[Abox79]

Hey, I'm a regular contributor to the FKK / Globe / UK / Czech forums but now starting to look further afield to satisfy my sexual cravings. I would appreciate a little knowledge / info / advise on Lisbon if possible please? Is Lisbon only the built up area on the Northside of the Targus or is the built up area on the south connected by two bridges on route A2/ A12 classed as Lisbon as well? Which side is the best to visit in terms of accessibility to girls? Is the availability of girls solely through agencies / independents or are there brothels as well, anything on the FKKK model? Thanks in anticipation.

Over a week and NOT ONE reply to these questions answered politely? I know I could RTFF but I doubt it is covered. But it's ok, I will find out for myself. Seems like the Lisbon forum is very 'clicky'.

[FunMan13]

ExEx,

Sorry for the blackout. My hotel in Madrid blocked ISG. Ella Secret is out of town, I think she said Italy.

Made contact with Bia Santos for this afternoon. Will report.

Funman13.

[ExExpatriate]

For recommendations on specific ladies, I suggest either reviewing this forum back to the summer, asking about who you are interested in by name or both. I myself covered four ladies just recently, others have made solid contributions, and some of us are aware of the wider chatter generally. You mentioned being on a budget -- you could ask about the known options for 100 and 120 an hour if that mattered more to you than getting your type.

EP is outcall only. The girls go to hotels, Air BnBs and private homes, and they only charge for transportation if the location is outside Lisbon proper.

The thing about EP and the photo-verified sites is the girl you get us the one advertising. There is no bait and switch. The only unreliability is that sometimes the photos are a few years old. On EP, for example, Alexandra Mendes, Sara Valente and Carolina the'Almeida haven't done a new photoshoot since before the pandemic. But from what I've heard, the pics are still very accurate for Valente and Mendes.

If a girl isn't showing her face, it's because she wants to retain discretion about her identity and profession. Most massagistas don't care, because they aren't prostitutes; many Brazilians don't care because they aren't staying in Portugal. But a lot of others care very much about their work following them home. So, I doubt they will send you a head shot if you ask for one. They made a choice and are likely to stick with it.

Cascais and Estoril are beach suburbs of Lisbon, so they are often lumped in with Lisbon as a whole because guys will go out to or find themselves in the burbs. About half of those ladies in Cascais are a short walk from a Linha de Cascais rail station.

You should also look at docemassgem, somassagens and Momentosdeprazer

I'm in Lisbon for the next three weeks. I'm not
exactly flush with cash at the moment so I'm hoping I manage to spend wisely.

I love a good erotic massage and I've already seen a few girls I like the look of in that department.

I'm having more difficulty with finding girls I want to have full service with. There's a girl on EP that I quite like the look of. But am I correct in thinking the EP girls are outcall only? If so, do they only go to hotels. Or will they also come to an apartment? Do their advertised rates include their travel, or is that going to cost me extra? 150 is already more than I'd usually pay (I only ever usually do incall) so I can't really justify paying more than that when I'm kinda broke.

My main concern with outcall is that most of the EP girls don't even show their faces in the profile. I'd hate to book someone and then be faced with a girl I didn't find particularly attractive. Do any of the girls send pictures of their face via WhatsApp? The only time I have previously done outcall (in Budapest,) a completely different girl showed up. So that's always a concern as well.

Are there any sites for incall girls? I'm aware of apartadox and portalprivado. A few of the girls on the Lisbon page of portalprivado, come up as being from Cascais when you click on their profile. How does that work?

Sorry for all the questions.

[Mongerer88]

I'm in Lisbon for the next three weeks. I'm not exactly flush with cash at the moment so I'm hoping I manage to spend wisely.

I love a good erotic massage and I've already seen a few girls I like the look of in that department.

I'm having more difficulty with finding girls I want to have full service with. There's a girl on EP that I quite like the look of. But am I correct in thinking the EP girls are outcall only? If so, do they only go to hotels. Or will they also come to an apartment? Do their advertised rates include their travel, or is that going to cost me extra? 150 is already more than I'd usually pay (I only ever usually do incall) so I can't really justify paying more than that when I'm kinda broke.

My main concern with outcall is that most of the EP girls don't even show their faces in the profile. I'd hate to book someone and then be faced with a girl I didn't find particularly attractive. Do any of the girls send pictures of their face via WhatsApp? The only time I have previously done outcall (in Budapest,) a completely different girl showed up. So that's always a concern as well.

Are there any sites for incall girls? I'm aware of apartadox and portalprivado. A few of the girls on the Lisbon page of portalprivado, come up as being from Cascais when you click on their profile. How does that work?

Sorry for all the questions.

If you think EP is too expensive, then they probably are, and you will come back and complain like you did about the options everyone took the time and effort to give you in the Barcelona thread. Iberia is different than Budapest.

Lisbon does not have a central meeting place for inexpensive incall escorts. Its clubs are more expensive than its incall and outcall escorts.

Here is a list of incall escorts with excellent reviews who will likely offer you 30 and 45 minute options that are less expensive than outcall from Escort Privada. You will send them messages using WhatsApp in Portuguese. You can use Google Translate to go to and from your native tongue to Portuguese. Uber is active in Lisbon and you can use it to get to each lady's incall. That is how it works in Portugal for incall escorts. A few will be able to read and write English, but start by sending your message in both translated Portuguese and English to find out.

Let's start with one who isn't on many lists because she just returned to Lisbon from working throughout Europe. She comes from a massage background so that might interest you. She does not get that many compliments on her face, but her BBBJTCIM is raved about. Her name is Lara.

https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/an...-c-finalizacao#group=galeria_360966&photo=360966.

This list of independents is not in any particular order. Some of the ladies on prior lists are omitted merely because they do not have a current ad at the moment. Some may not be offering 30 or 45 minute sessions. You just have to ask them. And I no doubt forgot some that others can add. I just happened to pull Ella Secret's ad from the BDSM section, but she does GFE as well.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...a-Sanchez-2320

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...aju-Rossi-6890

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...a-Navarro-3827

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Ella-Secret-6513

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...Mel-Pires-5408

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...-Bernardi-3753

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...Catia-Bom-6582

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...lia-Viana-4962

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ia-Santos-5091

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...y-Fontini-1789

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...mpanhante=1082

https://www.portalprivado.com/acompa...mpanhante=1390

That is 15 recommended ladies for the 21 days of your trip. Others can add six more if you want to fuck a different independent for 30-45 minute sessions every day of your trip. If a person wanted to do that, Lisbon is one of the most economical places in Europe to do so. It would make a touching Uber commercial, actually.

You can check and see if this one starts running ads during your trip.

https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4294

And it seems only right to list this expensive independent escort who likely only offers one hour or more sessions in case she is of interest to others.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...a-Belmont-6095

[Mongerer88]

Thank you, that clears it up. What is still slightly intriguing is that ladies have the same contact telephone number on both EP and Apartodox. I thought the EP number would be specific to EP.

A different number for each lady is commonly seen in Portugal, and in some situations in Spain.

Prostitution is legal, but pimping and pandering is not.

Each Escort Privada lady is an independent escort who uses Escort Privada to help her with advertising, assist with bookings and communication, and in some situations help with transportation. All of these independent escorts appear to have agreed amongst themselves to charge the same hourly rate, but some have surcharges for different activities that escort offers.

A stronger argument exists that a lady is an independent escort who contracts out these services if she has her own phone number.

The argument may never be needed, and the concept is sometimes simply abandoned. Vecinitas in Barcelona used to have a separate number for each lady, but recently stopped doing that and went with one central number.

It is not really clear than an agency with one or two central phone numbers is doing pimping or pandering. An agency escort is still contracting out services. The customer pays that escort the full fee, and she gives a certain portion to the agency for its services to her, regardless of the phone number situation.

[Pyrrhus]

I'm in Lisbon for the next three weeks. I'm not exactly flush with cash at the moment so I'm hoping I manage to spend wisely.

I love a good erotic massage and I've already seen a few girls I like the look of in that department.

I'm having more difficulty with finding girls I want to have full service with. There's a girl on EP that I quite like the look of. But am I correct in thinking the EP girls are outcall only? If so, do they only go to hotels. Or will they also come to an apartment? Do their advertised rates include their travel, or is that going to cost me extra? 150€ is already more than I'd usually pay (I only ever usually do incall) so I can't really justify paying more than that when I'm kinda broke.

My main concern with outcall is that most of the EP girls don't even show their faces in the profile. I'd hate to book someone and then be faced with a girl I didn't find particularly attractive. Do any of the girls send pictures of their face via WhatsApp? The only time I have previously done outcall (in Budapest,) a completely different girl showed up. So that's always a concern as well.

Are there any sites for incall girls? I'm aware of apartadox and portalprivado. A few of the girls on the Lisbon page of portalprivado, come up as being from Cascais when you click on their profile. How does that work?

Sorry for all the questions.

[Harry1217]

Indeed, it was really the ditching of the bad reputation that I was worried about.

But it's also useful just to have as much information as possible about a lady, so it's great to link all reviews under the different names.

Yes, escorts in general will change names or use more than one working name. Sometimes this is to mislead customers, but sometimes they are just tired of the old name, want to track where the customer came from or are rebranding themselves.

But some really are just trying to ditch their bad reputation. On EP, Barbara Gouveia, Mafalda Melo, Victoria Saravia and Rita Campos are all girls who have worked for EP before under a different name (in Melo's case, this is her third name change), and had a mixed, declining or outright terrible reputation. So, they changed their name to leave the bad reviews behind.

[Harry1217]

Thank you, that clears it up. What is still slightly intriguing is that ladies have the same contact telephone number on both EP and Apartodox. I thought the EP number would be specific to EP.

Sometimes there are name changes, but in this situation it is not. The local board reviews indicated that Sofia said she was leaving and the phone number was being recycled.

I think Ana Lucia got assigned the phone number of Sofia Viana and EP just kept the same link.

[ExExpatriate]

Yes, escorts in general will change names or use more than one working name. Sometimes this is to mislead customers, but sometimes they are just tired of the old name, want to track where the customer came from or are rebranding themselves.

For example, I just saw Aurora Vaz. She started as an EP girl, but went full-time, independent and incall. She changed her name when she did so. Adriana Santos used to be Bianca Pereira, and nobody has really put shade on her. Jennifer PT is also Eva Sanchez, and part of the reason why is she knows how you found her from the name you use.

But some really are just trying to ditch their bad reputation. On EP, Barbara Gouveia, Mafalda Melo, Victoria Saravia and Rita Campos are all girls who have worked for EP before under a different name (in Melo's case, this is her third name change), and had a mixed, declining or outright terrible reputation. So, they changed their name to leave the bad reviews behind.

[Mongerer88]

Are there sometimes name changes on EP? For example, when you click on a profile of a lady referenced a while back, the link still works but comes up as a lady with a different name (e. G. Sofia Viana below). Is Sofia Viana still active under this different name?

For other older links, it simply returns an error message on EP when you click on it, so you know the lady isn't on there any more (e. G. Madalena Fonseca below).

I ask because it is useful to reference all reviews for a lady currently working and active.

Sometimes there are name changes, but in this situation it is not. The local board reviews indicated that Sofia said she was leaving and the phone number was being recycled.

I think Ana Lucia got assigned the phone number of Sofia Viana and EP just kept the same link.

[Harry1217]

Are there sometimes name changes on EP? For example, when you click on a profile of a lady referenced a while back, the link still works but comes up as a lady with a different name (e. G. Sofia Viana below). Is Sofia Viana still active under this different name?

For other older links, it simply returns an error message on EP when you click on it, so you know the lady isn't on there any more (e. G. Madalena Fonseca below).

I ask because it is useful to reference all reviews for a lady currently working and active.

Bella Lorenzo has one review here on ISG. It is a good but not great review. She is reviewed as being very pretty with large enhanced breasts but a bit restrictive on services. She did not kiss and she went to her hand after starting a BBBJ, so it does not appear that CIM is available. Bella has no reviews on the local board.

I think you would likely be better off with your other two choices, Maria Gomes or Eva Luz.

Maria Gomes has three reviews on the local board from experienced reviewers. She got a 7, an 8, and a 10 out of ten from these reviewers, and they confirm her great looks and body, as well as her service offerings that include GFE, CIM and anal. She is reviewed as being a quiet girl, explaining the 7 and 8 scores. The guy who gave her an 8 out of 10 has reviewed a lot of ladies, giving Sofia Viana a 7 out of 10, Catarina Moura an 8 out of 10, and Alexandra Mendes a 5 out of 10. He has reviewed a lot of non-Escort Privada ladies, giving them relatively low scores of 6, 6, 5, 4, 6 out of 10. So his 8 out of 10 review of Maria Gomes is an excellent review comparatively.

[ExExpatriate]

Thanks for the answer as I am really interested in erotic massages. I will visit Lisbon in two weeks time and I am interested in trying something different. Like tantra.

I don't know anything of that Body Work place, but since I did that summary, I have called on the Isis I referenced. I give her double thumbs up and consider her a cut above the other ladies in her class.

[JohnBobbit]

Now for massagistas not offering FS.

I think Delirium is the best spa to go for that right now. Reports indicate there are less or none of the upsell tactics these places often use to jip you out of an extra 20-30 euros; not all the ladies there have been reviewed, but those that have been got good marks. And all their ladies are also on photo-verified sites.

https://deliriospa.pt/

Three ladies are working in spas, but reports endorse the one lady and not anyone else at the spa. So, book with them in advance.

Sol at Mandala.

https://eroticmassagelisboa.com/sol/

Jenny at Lotus.

http://www.lotusmassage.pt/jenny/

Evah at Allure.

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...te-luxo-lisboa

And as for independents, Isis is on fire on the local board.

https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

Thanks for the answer as I am really interested in erotic massages. I will visit Lisbon in two weeks time and I am interested in trying something different. Like tantra massage.

Do you have any information about this therapist?

http://bodyworkportugal.com/

I still have my doubts, because she offers tantra massage with lingam healing, but still writes that this is not erotic service and the price is 250 euro. Anyone with information about this girl? And the most important question. Is this massage and the price worthy?