Lisbon

[Max1992]

Did anybody meet Bianca Pereira (https://www.apartadox.com/de/high-cl...eira-4036.html)?

[Max1992]

Met Diana (https://www.apartadox.com/de/high-cl...Real-4836.html) recently. Her body looks as on her pictures. Wrote her on WA, conversation was quick and she was quite flexible about the hours. Met in a hotel, she was on time and came in stylish but casual clothes. After some talk we started to undress. Her boobs are really amazing! She has implants but they are really well made and fit her body perfectly! Round and big without being too fake.

After a blowjob we continued with several positions which where all good and satisfying.

If you look for a friendly easy going and sexy lady, I can definitely recommend to meet her!

[Mongerer88]

Any review or insights on Eva Santos. The profile and photo seem very interesting:

https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-santos/

Thanks in advance.

Eva Santos and Giovana Bragança of Escort Privada both just received very bad reviews on the local board from a new poster. The same guy did both reviews.

Could be a hatchet job, but it is hard to tell. With so many good recommendations on this board of other ladies, at EP and elsewhere, why take a chance?

[Mongerer88]

Lisbon rarely seems to get a BDSM submissive who has reviews, so it is worth pointing out when such a lady is advertising.

Her one review on the local board is an 8 out of 10 from an experienced reviewer. He got hard from fingering both holes at the same time that he went straight to intercourse, so there is no direct mention of oral, but her advertisement lists BBBJ and anal sex, in addition to fetishes. The review said her bottom and legs are a little bit chubbier than the pictures suggest. It is not clear from the ads whether she speaks any English.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ouza-6251.html

https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/an...ira-que-adora-#group=galeria_317243&photo=317243.

[Mongerer88]

No, they're not. Sex work is legal. As a matter of fact, not legal nor illegal since there is no legislation concerning it. But agencies, spas, clinicas, incur in criminal liability for pimping.

You have to keep in mind that you are often conversing with USA Guys where we live in a grey world.

Sex work is illegal in the USA, but we have escorts and some escort agencies. The escort agency argues that it does not engage in prostitution or pimping because it merely introduces people, which is legal as a dating-style service. Escorts, whether independent or agency, charge by the hour in the USA It is legal to exchange time and companionship for money in the USA, just not legal to exchange money for sex. Women are free to legally consent to sex while selling time and companionship. And of course it is difficult for law enforcement to prove that sex even occurred. And we have websites where guys write reviews of ladies, but those reviews are specified as acts of creative fictional writing.

The same fundamental arguments exist in legal structures where the actual act of prostitution is actually legal, but pimping / pandering is illegal. The agency, spa, or clinica just can't cross the line into pimping / pandering. So you see various techniques designed to separate them from any commercial sex act, including facilitating the sex act. So you see a phone number for each lady in some situations, statements on websites like Nuru Spa that no sex occurs during massages, no supposed availability of line-ups when several ladies share a space and stay at the facility between appointments, etc.

Those of us from countries where everything associated with commercial sex is illegal understand that some things can't be spelled out online, and a person has to "jump the fence" from time to time. Commercial sex might be available at a spa even if the website says otherwise (especially if words like nuru or erotic appear on the website). I once had a great commercial sex experience in Bangkok in a little room with a sign in English and in Thai that said Vice Activities Prohibited. I guess what we did in that room wasn't a vice activity.

The guys who have the most trouble understanding this stuff are those who primarily do this in Germany. There don't seem to be any fences to jump over in Germany, except now the upsell now often paid for the prohibited BBBJ.

[Kama Leão]

escort agencies are likely perfectly legal in Portugal

No, they're not. Sex work is legal. As a matter of fact, not legal nor illegal since there is no legislation concerning it. But agencies, spas, clinicas, incur in criminal liability for pimping.

[Mongerer88]

The local board had a review of Monica Melo, confirming my own statement here: she has a mouth full of brown teeth, smells like an ashtray, and the skin on a heavy smoker in her early 30's. Her attitude is very mixed, and it entirely possible she is a drug addict. Like that guy, I just wanted it over and for her to go away.

The most disappointing thing about this encounter is it points out how EP, as an agency, doesn't actually have any standards. Heretofore, they have had some bad performers, but none were actually rated as nasty by anyone, anywhere. And then came Ms. Melo.

The reviewer speculates this is the rebranded Nicole Forte, a former EP girl. I don't know about that -- he doesn't claim to have patronized Forte before, and Forte has decent or good reviews in her day. It would be quite a slide after like a year and a half to get to what Melo is. Ick!

This is why we need reviews, good and bad, and multiple reviews of each lady in an escort-oriented market like Lisbon. Averages matter, and being able to see if a reviewer has liked other ladies the reader of the review has previously seen, is a big deal.

The marketing concept of branding has surprisingly never mattered for most escort groups. I had a Montreal agency send me a Latina Babe and a hideous beast once. The hideous beast gave me a spectacular BBBJTC while I made out with the Latina. But I wanted to have vaginal intercourse with the Latina for the second cum, and the hideous beast was so talkative and distracting that I could only maintain an erection if I made her go wait in the hotel lobby. I felt like an asshole for days.

Another time in Buenos Aires, an agency sent me a dead ringer for Phoebe Cates in her Fast Times at Ridgemont High days. I was elated since she fucked like only the character Brad in that movie could have imagined her doing in the bathroom scene. I booked with them the next night and they sent me the skankiest girl I have ever been with. Skin rashes and everything. Honest to God, she stole the toilet paper from the hotel when she left.

No one can reconcile these things. EP has mostly top talent, in my opinion. But there are some exceptions within their group.

[ExExpatriate]

The reviewer speculates this is the rebranded Nicole Forte, a former EP girl. I don't know about that -- he doesn't claim to have Forte before, and Forte has decent or good reviews in her day. It would be quite a slide after like a year and a half to get to what Melo is. Ick!

Follow up. The dots were connected by others and she made that slide. Ugh 🤢.

[GTOnizuka]

Hi there.

Anyone of you can do a short list of Lisbon top nuru spa with the website links Please?

Is 120€ 40 minutes for a relaxing massage (sex included) is a fair Price?

Thank you all for sharing valuable information you guys are doing an Amazing job.

[RichLondon]

Has anyone experience of this spa and whether their girls provide extra services?

I am staying at the doubletree next week and they are only 4 minutes walk away.

https://lisbon-massage.com/en/

[ExExpatriate]

The local board had a review of Monica Melo, confirming my own statement here: she has a mouth full of brown teeth, smells like an ashtray, and the skin on a heavy smoker in her early 30's. Her attitude is very mixed, and it entirely possible she is a drug addict. Like that guy, I just wanted it over and for her to go away.

The most disappointing thing about this encounter is it points out how EP, as an agency, doesn't actually have any standards. Heretofore, they have had some bad performers, but none were actually rated as nasty by anyone, anywhere. And then came Ms. Melo.

The reviewer speculates this is the rebranded Nicole Forte, a former EP girl. I don't know about that -- he doesn't claim to have patronized Forte before, and Forte has decent or good reviews in her day. It would be quite a slide after like a year and a half to get to what Melo is. Ick!

[Tiny 12]

Thanks again Mongerer 88, great info, and thanks again for the recommendation.

I spent the evening with Carolina Belmont, and it was a very positive experience. We spent most of the time eating and chatting (my choice). Her English was much better than my nonexistent Portuguese, but we spoke Spanish. She's pretty fluent in Spanish. She's educated, a university student in a field that's no piece of cake, at least if the Portuguese educational system is like what we have in my country. We had a great time talking and a great time afterwards. She's very friendly, very attractive, good in the sack, and receives the Tiny Seal of Approval.

The damage is 170 EUR per hour.

[Mongerer88]

Thanks to Mongerer 88 and others for highlighting information from the local board. I presume this is all from gp-pt.net -- I just registered. I don't see a search function, so assume you just have to scroll through the pages and find the escort you're interested in? And another question, I see all the women on escortprivada.com have the same price structure, and understand from the board that they only do outcalls. But they have different phone numbers. Is escortprivada an agency, or a listing service for independents?

Different phone numbers for each lady working with the same group (or working at the same place in the case of Vecinitas in Barcelona) is pretty standard in Iberia.

The idea is that it creates greater protection against pimping and pandering laws.

However, escort agencies are likely perfectly legal in Portugal, and in Spain. Of the four groups I refer to as "shared private apartments" in Barcelona, the only one that does outcalls was at first the only one to not have a phone number for each lady, since it formally operated as an escort agency. Over time, you see the formalities be relaxed. At first, the "shared private apartments" in Barcelona wouldn't do line-ups due to the concern that it would make them look too much like operating a brothel without a license. But some of them will do line-ups now.

Sometimes you see Escort Privada refer to itself as an agency, and sometimes as a group of independents. Sometimes you are communicating with the lady herself when you message them, sometimes you are communicating with the assistant that handles scheduling for that lady.

[Tiny 12]

Thanks to Mongerer 88 and others for highlighting information from the local board. I presume this is all from gp-pt.net -- I just registered. I don't see a search function, so assume you just have to scroll through the pages and find the escort you're interested in? And another question, I see all the women on escortprivada.com have the same price structure, and understand from the board that they only do outcalls. But they have different phone numbers. Is escortprivada an agency, or a listing service for independents?

[Tiny 12]

Carolina Belmont was with Escort Privada....the guy seeming to be interested in a dinner date might send her a WhatsApp message and see about English fluency.

That's me and I just set up a date. Will let you know how it goes. Many thanks Mongerer!