Moscow

[Harlei]

I saw Julia on these sites :

http://www.girl-directory.com/russia...t.php?ID=16570 and
http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

Several months ago and after several letters decided to invite her to my hotel when I am in Moscow. The price was too much and I aksed for a small discount, she immediately agreed.

When the woman went into my room it seemed to me that her face was strained and tired, looked like she had had several customers before me. Her hair smelled not fresh as well, under the eyes there were bruises- I could imagine that shehad been working intensely.

She stopped being more or less friendly after she got her 250 euro. Also on the telephone I didn't feel that so much, but she had terrible accent that was hard to understand, so after some short time I just stopped trying to make some kind of conversation and decided to get to the process. She was not against, immediately went to the bathroom.

Before tried to torture me with the question if I had a shower or not, but so far she was one hour late I explained it to her several times that I had enough time to get cleaned. When she went to the bathroom I wondered why she was so persistent about my going to the bathroom, may be to steal something and leave. It could be like this as the continuation was just even worse. The beginning was just frustrating, but I decided to go on, just wondered how far these girls can go.

So when she came from the bathroom and I put a way the towel she was holding, I discovered that she has not tits at all! Where are the tits, I was thinking trying to get my Brother act or move, also she was fat, the ass looked miserable. I lied down thinking that after such a fake as her site and the photos on the site she could at least be more active to work out the money she took from me. She began to perform something that could be oral in a rubber, without initiative and nearly dyeing. I understood that there will be no use in all these and decided to finish with the meeting, took her from behind and tried from the back helping my brother with the hand, She was absolutely dry and squeezed my legs with hers in the way for me not to be able to go deep. I was on the edge of throwing her out of my room exactly at this moment but kept myself from doing it, try not to be rude with women whoever they are.

After unsuccessful attempts of getting what I have paid for, I asked her for message. She tried to show that she is performing a kind of message, that was in fact pinching me with her cold hands. I asked to stop, she looking unsatisfied and lied down as though waiting when I let her go home. Also want to add that the telephone was ringing all the time until I asked her to switch it off. I was again as angry as I wanted to throw her out of my room and in fact that was what I did.

I took her bag and threw it to the door demanding to return 150 euro, explaining that instead of a young happy escort girl from the photos I got an old tired street prostitute that can hardly speak English and is not able to perform anything for the money that took from me. I saw that it made some effect, at least she understood, she looked frightened, took the bag and disappeared in the bathroom. I confirmed my intention to take my money back telling her that I could ask for a guards of the hotel (that I would never do) and tell him that she stole some things from me. I was so angry that was ready for this!

Looked like she also didn't want a scandal as was a frequent visitor of the hotel. She came out of the bathroom, put 150 euro on the table and silently went away.

I have never had such a disgusting escort experience as that! Instead of a girl from the photo I had a cheap shabby bold *****, who is in her late 30ies.

The photos resemble her, but in reality she is fatter with no bust much older and more simple.

http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/gallery/Julia2.html

http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

Found several more photos of this fake provider!

[Pizdyets]

C'mon Acon. That's ridiculous.

99% of the salons are cheating and dangerous? More like 99% are completely safe.

I wholehandedly agree with the good doctor. Maybe I don't have a GREAT time during every visit to a salon, but 95% of the time, it's good. That's assuming you do your research and go to a reputable place. Same goes for CF/BH/HD. Be super clear with the girl about your expectations (time, number of pops, services and so on), and you'll rarely be disappointed. I'm not saying it won't happen (especially at NF, which is notorious for girls who underdeliver), but it should be the exception rather than the rule.

As for Kiev vs Moscow, my general feeling is that p4p options are a bit different between the two, but more-or-less equivalent in price/performance. That said, Kiev beats Moscow in terms of freebie action, even though things have improved here in Moscow during the kreesis. Dyevs in Kiev just seem so... desperate. I love it!

[Eros74]

Moscow is very different from Kiev. Before of all, there is no professional prostitutes...

I agree, they are no professional at all, they are totally GFE in most of cases

[Doctor_Skank]

Moscow is very different from Kiev. Before of all, there is no professional prostitutes (for foreigners), they are 99.99 % cheating and dangerous, when you go to their apartments-brothels, you are in a mouse trap: read my detailed explainations in April 2009.

Kiev is definitely better than Moscow, but world is changing very fast.

C'mon Acon. That's ridiculous.

99% of the salons are cheating and dangerous? More like 99% are completely safe.

Kiev vs. Moscow is another story, the cities are less alike than one might think, both with their positive and negative sides.

[Harlei]

I saw Julia on these sites :

http://www.girl-directory.com/russia...t.php?ID=16570 and
http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

Several months ago and after several letters decided to invite her to my hotel when I am in Moscow. The price was too much and I aksed for a small discount, she immediately agreed.

When the woman went into my room it seemed to me that her face was strained and tired, looked like she had had several customers before me. Her hair smelled not fresh as well, under the eyes there were bruises- I could imagine that shehad been working intensely.

She stopped being more or less friendly after she got her 250 euro. Also on the telephone I didn't feel that so much, but she had terrible accent that was hard to understand, so after some short time I just stopped trying to make some kind of conversation and decided to get to the process. She was not against, immediately went to the bathroom.

Before tried to torture me with the question if I had a shower or not, but so far she was one hour late I explained it to her several times that I had enough time to get cleaned. When she went to the bathroom I wondered why she was so persistent about my going to the bathroom, may be to steal something and leave. It could be like this as the continuation was just even worse. The beginning was just frustrating, but I decided to go on, just wondered how far these girls can go.

So when she came from the bathroom and I put a way the towel she was holding, I discovered that she has not tits at all! Where are the tits, I was thinking trying to get my Brother act or move, also she was fat, the ass looked miserable. I lied down thinking that after such a fake as her site and the photos on the site she could at least be more active to work out the money she took from me. She began to perform something that could be oral in a rubber, without initiative and nearly dyeing. I understood that there will be no use in all these and decided to finish with the meeting, took her from behind and tried from the back helping my brother with the hand, She was absolutely dry and squeezed my legs with hers in the way for me not to be able to go deep. I was on the edge of throwing her out of my room exactly at this moment but kept myself from doing it, try not to be rude with women whoever they are.

After unsuccessful attempts of getting what I have paid for, I asked her for message. She tried to show that she is performing a kind of message, that was in fact pinching me with her cold hands. I asked to stop, she looking unsatisfied and lied down as though waiting when I let her go home. Also want to add that the telephone was ringing all the time until I asked her to switch it off. I was again as angry as I wanted to throw her out of my room and in fact that was what I did.

I took her bag and threw it to the door demanding to return 150 euro, explaining that instead of a young happy escort girl from the photos I got an old tired street prostitute that can hardly speak English and is not able to perform anything for the money that took from me. I saw that it made some effect, at least she understood, she looked frightened, took the bag and disappeared in the bathroom. I confirmed my intention to take my money back telling her that I could ask for a guards of the hotel (that I would never do) and tell him that she stole some things from me. I was so angry that was ready for this!

Looked like she also didn't want a scandal as was a frequent visitor of the hotel. She came out of the bathroom, put 150 euro on the table and silently went away.

I have never had such a disgusting escort experience as that! Instead of a girl from the photo I had a cheap shabby bold *****, who is in her late 30ies.

The photos resemble her, but in reality she is fatter with no bust much older and more simple.

http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/gallery/Julia2.html

http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

I was writing before about this provider and described my bad experience with her. Then found one more negative review (that I am adding here) after which this fake Julia disappeared from the field, I have just noticed that she changed a bit photos and appeared again!

here is where she appears and her site:

http://www.girl-directory.com/russia...t.php?ID=16570

http://www.escort24h.net/escorts/gallery/Julia2.html

http://www.sexyindependentescorts.co...ndent-552.html

I am quoting one review of her service and add mine, as well as I am attaching her pics for you not to be cheated again by this fake Julia and her site.

Julia- one of the worst ways to spend the money

I also met her two months ago.

The body is not young, marks of folds and cellulite, the belly is also spoilt by cakes and buns (looks like?), we tried oral, though she put it with the hands, very painful, that made my last attempts to perform anything impossible.

I couldn't get excited as she was not the girls I expected from the photos,

http://www.Girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php? ID=16570

She was also visibly in bad mood and when I tried to flirt with her at the beginning of our meeting and pet her bottom she got really mad. So I would agree with the previous opinion, the behavior is not normal at all.


Also opened Natasha two months ago and now have been meeting her nearly on a regular basis :
http://www.girl-directory.com/russia-escort.php?ID=9580

The price is more than reasonable for the experience I get, real virtuoso in her profession, loves sex, sophisticated and with lots of passion in bed.
Slim, well-groomed, model like looks, not very young (in her mid 30ies I quess) but this just adds charm and gloss to her, very easy in communication , she is much better in bed than most of the young "beauties" I met. Very passionate and sweet girl .

[Ziggy Ines]

Anybody had experience with Salon Blondinki near Krasnoe Varota metro?

[Jake993]

... It occurred to me that if she is using her info to register all of Rick's guests, won't someone, somewhere in the Russian bureaucracy, put 2 + 2 together and wonder why this young women has such a constant stream of western men visiting her!

I don't think anyone in the Russia bureaucracy CARES!!!!!

[Vigilantemoscow]

I am actually surprised commercially savvy individualkas are not already advertising this service for an extra 1k-2k Rbl. Not difficult to imagine long lines in the morning at the local post office of.by then well relaxed- gentleman being accompanied to get registered. I would call that a full managed service!

точно!

As a visitor, you don't have an address, by definition, so they use the address of the person who is registering you.

I figured this out when I stayed at one of Rick's apartments, and the girl came back with my passport and registration form. It was in her name and with her address. It occurred to me that if she is using her info to register all of Rick's guests, won't someone, somewhere in the Russian bureaucracy, put 2 + 2 together and wonder why this young women has such a constant stream of western men visiting her!

[Nickc]

Thanks for info regards registering. Work has me in Moscow and surrounds from March 1st. See you there, I’ll be the guy in the dark purple shirt. Cheers Nick C

[Stravinsky]

точно!

As a visitor, you don't have an address, by definition, so they use the address of the person who is registering you.

I figured this out when I stayed at one of Rick's apartments, and the girl came back with my passport and registration form. It was in her name and with her address. It occurred to me that if she is using her info to register all of Rick's guests, won't someone, somewhere in the Russian bureaucracy, put 2 + 2 together and wonder why this young women has such a constant stream of western men visiting her!

[Jake993]

Jake - I think a Russian citizen sponsoring a visitor is a whole 'nother process, involving a special type of visa for that purpose. Mainly the RF just wants to keep track of foreign citizens staying in Russia, and in order to do that they want you to register at an "official" address where they can reach out and put the finger on you, if they need to.

Strav,
I wondered about that. But get this - when I got the registration paper back from the manager who registered me, it did not specify the address of the apartment where I was staying, it showed the address of HER apartment. It was like they were more interested in the address of the person registering me than they were in where I was actually staying. I'll bet that was, in fact, the way it was officially documented. Imagine that - being registered to the address of a gorgeous young devushka and not getting a chance to "boink" her. Doesn't seem fair does it?

[Surcher]

How do you handle registration for yourself?

Hello,

I go regularly to Russia, and never register, except in the hotels of course. I had two times difficulties with the militia on the street, and paid them a fee, and once in Barnaul at the airport just before departure. There a guy took me out of the queue and took me to an office. He was not in uniform, I refused to talk a single word Russian, he had to let me go and I just got the plane. But that was 5 years ago. The rules are changed, and most hotels do the registration electronal. When leaving the country nobody ever asked me something. I even lost once that small white paper (is it the emigration card?) and nobody said something.

[Stravinsky]

What proof of address they accept at the Post Office please?

You will need some sort of government issued ID that shows your permanent address in Moscow.

Russian citizens can use their narodni passport, but if you are a foreign businessman renting an apartment, you won't have one of those. I doubt if utility bills will be acceptable. Regardless of your ID, I think a foreign citizen, trying to register another foreign citizen, would raise some eyebrows.

How do you handle registration for yourself? Is it done through your company?


Jake - I think a Russian citizen sponsoring a visitor is a whole 'nother process, involving a special type of visa for that purpose. Mainly the RF just wants to keep track of foreign citizens staying in Russia, and in order to do that they want you to register at an "official" address where they can reach out and put the finger on you, if they need to.

I never thought of it before, but logically, the person who registers you should probably report that you have left the country. But then, we're talking about Russia, so logic doesn't necessarily apply.

It was probably a Russian border guard. Given the special fondness that Russia has for the Ukraine right now, I imagine he takes great pleasure in reading the riot act to every ignorant kolkhoznik who happens to cross his path.

[Jake993]

Stravinsky,

What proof of address they accept at the Post Office please?

I want to invite friends over but I have no utility bills to show. I live in a company paid flat.

I have to say I once was stopped in the underground before going to work so Militia can also pick on innocent "business" types.

Regards,

Vigilante

Vig,
I may be off base with this comment so if it is incorrect then I apologize in advance. However, I have been told that in order to register a visitor you must be a "Moscow resident" and have some proof (some kind of document) to that effect. The exception to that rule is if you are a business (like a hotel) that is set up to receive non-residents of Moscow.

The reason I say this is that when in Moscow I normally rent an apartment from one of the agencies. One of the services they offer is the registration. On one occasion, I needed to get my visa registered in a hurry because of a scheduling conflict, but the manager told me that she could not do it herself because she is not a "proper" resident of Moscow (although she has lived there for years) and that we would have to wait day for her colleague to return to work because she is a "Moscow Resident" and could register me easily.

I have no proof one way or the other, but I get the impression that registering a guest is tantamount to sponsoring them to live at your residence. Although the rules have been relaxed, when you leave Moscow you should technically return the document to the person who registered you and they must report your departure to the same place they register your arrival. TECHNICALLY they can be in shit if they fail to do this.

I was told a story of a Ukrainian visitor last summer who arrived in Moscow by train. His host registered him and everything was cool. When it was time to return to Kiev, he hopped on the train and headed home. Then, when they were making the border crossing from Russia to Ukraine, a border guard (not sure if it was Russian or Ukrainian) discovered the registration document in his passport (along with the migration card) and gave him Supreme Shit for not giving it back to his host in Moscow and that he was potentially creating a problem for his host.

Here's my point (yes, I do have a point), this process appears to be complicated, fluid, randomly enforced, and poorly understood. And there are PLENTY of legal Moscow Residents who would be happy to register your guests for a small fee ($25?). Maybe ask one of your Muscovite co-workers if they can hep you out and register your guest? Worth a try.

Good luck

[Vigilantemoscow]

Stravinsky,

What proof of address they accept at the Post Office please?

I want to invite friends over but I have no utility bills to show. I live in a company paid flat.

I have to say I once was stopped in the underground before going to work so Militia can also pick on innocent "business" types.

Regards,

Vigilante

AJ,

The procedures for registration have changed in the last year or 2. It is now possible to register yourself at the Post Office by filling out a form, in Russian or course, and paying a small fee, maybe 200 руб.

It is only necessary to prove that you have an address in Moscow (or wherever you are staying), which will be the sticking point for someone who is a tourist.

So, if you have proof of an address in Moscow and you can read and write Russian, you're set. Just head on over to the Post Office and do the deed.

Otherwise, you will have to pay someone to do it for you.

But, it is no longer necessary to register with the Militsia, or the OVIR, or the FSB, or the NKVD, or the VDNXa...