Moscow

[Member #4615]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

Prices the same that in NF?

[Member #4615]

Thanks for posting. To be honest it sounds like an awful experience and typical of Russian p4 p these days. No OWO, shit attitude, cold and business like. I was toying with the idea of going as there aren't' really a lot of good options here, but your story has convinced me not to.

This is a far cry from what this place used to be. I remember about 10 years ago me and a friend went to NF. I was going to buy him a session with a girl to thank him for a favor he did for me. We picked up this foxy Russian babe and we both ended up taking her back to his apartment and tag teaming her in a wild session that lasted for hours. I don't' think we gave her more than 200 bucks total. And she was happy with that. Those were the days....

Nice. Do you think there's still any Western Europe country when that type of experience can still be achieved?

[Member #4615]

Hi,

Sorry I am new at online dating. I had chat with some girls on tinder. But some of them directly asked me to meet the same day of first chat. Is it normal? Some would avoid questions like if they speak English or if they are Russian. I am confused. Don't want to get in troubles anyway.

The girls that try to push the date are usually trying to get a free lunch / dinner, so try to avoid them. If they avoid your questions, you should ask why they are avoiding them, and they will unmatch you straight away, and that's good, because you don't want to lose time with that type of girls.

On the other hand, lots of normal girls are tired of wasting their time in endless chats with guys that are not even in Moscow, that's why they offer to meet fast.

So yes, you should be offering just coffee after around 5 or 7 messages interchanged. Be clear about the coffee, otherwise you risk having to pay for some dinner-digger. I allow if they ask for a muffin, but if they ask for more, when I ask for the check I only pay for myself, needless to say I'm not going to see her again, but fuck it, I don't need that type of woman in my life.

Other tips:

- state your height clearly in your profile.

- don't use fake pictures.

- meet as many girls as you can, in order to get experience, just to learn to get comfortable around them.

- don't smile too much, or be over accommodating during the conversation.

- don't expect more than a conversation on the 1st date. Imagine you are having a meeting with a customer.

- try to close the 1st date with a good-bye kiss (no tongue, just lips), but don't push it.

[Ennfenn]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

Penthouse is almost same as you described. There are many racist girls like Night flight. And If you ask about special services like OWO or GFE they will say you talk too much.

[HelloMan2]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

[Uncle Volodya]

I'm glad that I tried Night Flight, and the girl I went with (though didn't quite perform as promised) met my standards in terms of looks, and wasn't a disaster overall. With that said, you can bet this will be my last time at Night Flight, simply because the culture these girls are operating under is not a healthy one. Non-GFE is what they live by, customer satisfaction doesn't seem to be their main focus, you can find much better experience elsewhere in Moscow at lower prices. So based on these facts, I won't go there again.

Thanks for posting. To be honest it sounds like an awful experience and typical of Russian p4 p these days. No OWO, shit attitude, cold and business like. I was toying with the idea of going as there aren't' really a lot of good options here, but your story has convinced me not to.

This is a far cry from what this place used to be. I remember about 10 years ago me and a friend went to NF. I was going to buy him a session with a girl to thank him for a favor he did for me. We picked up this foxy Russian babe and we both ended up taking her back to his apartment and tag teaming her in a wild session that lasted for hours. I don't' think we gave her more than 200 bucks total. And she was happy with that. Those were the days....

[Ennfenn]

Correct, not sure about the Facebook, part. I use my Google account instead.

Hi,

Sorry I am new at online dating. I had chat with some girls on tinder. But some of them directly asked me to meet the same day of first chat. Is it normal? Some would avoid questions like if they speak English or if they are Russian. I am confused. Don't want to get in troubles anyway.

[Member #4615]

Yes, surprised the Hell out of me!

Right. Could you elaborate a bit on how did that happen? Strategies, where did it happen.

[Member #4615]

Correct, not sure about the Facebook, part. I use my Google account instead.

Hmm, there's no way to create an account in Tinder without Facebook.

Once you have created your account using Facebook, then you can log in either with Facebook either with your phone number.

[HelloMan2]

One thing about Night Flight I have to bring up. The girls are not very into Indian customers.

The night I went, there were some Indian guys in the club, as well as some hanging out outside. While I was chatting with my girl on the sofa, she told me that girls at NF are not into Indian customers, girls try to avoid them. She said one guy tried to approach and flirt with her by taking her hand, but she slapped his hand away. She even said some other racist comment that I won't repeat here. Can't confirm if those were her personal feelings or if it was widespread in the club. I did notice that the girls were not trying to talk to Indian guys there. Yea so not very friendly for Indian guys, I would avoid.

[HelloMan2]

This was in October last year. I had an evening appointment with an online girl but she cancelled last minute. I thought this would be the best time to finally try Night Flight.

I arrived there at around 1:30 am. It's a small club, low ceiling. The place is dark, I don't think I was able to see girls' faces across the room.

I went straight to the bar to get a glass of coke, the moment I got it, a blonde girl (Katy or Katya) approached me immediately. So I said let's go sit and talk. She asks the usual questions (in english), where you from, how long you're here, is it your first time, blah blah. Then she offered 15 k / HR, I thought it was too much and I also wanted to enjoy my very expensive drink a bit, so I sent her off. Immediately after, a tall brunette comes sitting next to me, the usual questions, then she offered 20 k, I almost burst out laughing out loud, but I'm a gentleman so I just smiled and said I'll think about it. She got a little irritated and said "think about what, let's just go". Well after she said that, I thought I'm definitely not going with you now, attitude no good, so sent her off. I tried to look around but couldn't see very well the other girls' faces. Less than a minute later, that first blonde girl came sitting next to me again. I could tell she really wanted to go with me, she then offered 13 k. I kinda liked her looks and thought I'd be ok going with her, so took some time to discuss further. That's where she told me that all the girls at Night Flight don't do OWO, that's their culture there. That surprised me. After a while, I finally decided to go with her, she offered to drive us back to my hotel so I didn't have to get a taxi.

Once back, we took a shower (separately) and got down to business quickly, not much small talk. As for the experience, I would say it felt like a business transaction, I didn't feel she was trying to enjoy herself. My kissing attempts were fended off, she was frequently saying "baby you finish? Also constantly making fake sounds in the hopes that I finish quickly. In the end, she avoided COB even though we agreed earlier. When we finished, she asked if I could give her a tip. I stood my ground and said nope (politely) because she didn't provide what was promised, I think she knew it and was OK with it.

I'm glad that I tried Night Flight, and the girl I went with (though didn't quite perform as promised) met my standards in terms of looks, and wasn't a disaster overall. With that said, you can bet this will be my last time at Night Flight, simply because the culture these girls are operating under is not a healthy one. Non-GFE is what they live by, customer satisfaction doesn't seem to be their main focus, you can find much better experience elsewhere in Moscow at lower prices. So based on these facts, I won't go there again.

[DramaFree11]

A lots of Russian girls speak English. No tinder gold, but as DramaFree mentions, it offers quite a lot of advantages.

Well, you need a Facebook account, which you can create just for Tinder.

You can put fake pics in your account, but what's the point of that? When you meet them in person they'll see it's not you, will turn around and leave.

Why don't you want to put real pics?

Correct, not sure about the Facebook, part. I use my Google account instead.

[DramaFree11]

So you bang 2 girls the same day you met them?

Yes, surprised the Hell out of me!

[Member #4615]

Agree, I also used Tinder, this last trip. Had some very good, luck. Met 2 girls bang them that night. Nice girls, 6's, but nothing wrong with that. Love Moscow.

So you bang 2 girls the same day you met them?

[Member #4615]

Some questions about tinder:

Did you get English speaking Russian girls on tinder? Did you use tinder gold? And do you have to use real profile picture to get a match?

A lots of Russian girls speak English. No tinder gold, but as DramaFree mentions, it offers quite a lot of advantages.

Well, you need a Facebook account, which you can create just for Tinder.

You can put fake pics in your account, but what's the point of that? When you meet them in person they'll see it's not you, will turn around and leave.

Why don't you want to put real pics?