Moscow

[Uncle Volodya]

I've seen some ads of FKK but not sure how they work. I mean, you pay 60 eu. A day and you fuck all you want, or how does that work?

Haha that would be great.

There are places where it is 100 Euro for all you can fuck. But the quality of girls usually not that high.

Most places you pay an entrance fee (50-70 euro) and usually its 50 to 60 for half hour and 100 for full. Lots of very beautiful girls though variety is not what it used to be. Unfortunately DFK and BBJ are technically now illegal in Germany since they changed the law last year. But most girls up sell and charge extra for these. The best FKK clubs are in the Rhineland District (around Dusseldorf / COlogne area). I have heard that BBJ and DFK is still standard practice there.

[BroComplex]

I've seen some ads of FKK but not sure how they work. I mean, you pay 60 eu. A day and you fuck all you want, or how does that work?

You pay a cover fee to get in. There is a bar and some places have a swimming pool and stuff and beautiful women wearing almost nothing all over the place. Each girl cost €60 for a very very short time, no blow job, condom is mandatory and they try to rush you so they can hunt for the next paycheck. The women are beautiful and every man should experience FFK at least once in his life but once you've tried it I doubt you will travel again just to go to FFK.

[Member #4615]

Germany FKK. Did that a few years ago with a sexy brunwtte Romanian girl. At Samya. Finger cuffs. LOL.

I've seen some ads of FKK but not sure how they work. I mean, you pay 60 eu. A day and you fuck all you want, or how does that work?

[DramaFree11]

Hi,

Sorry I am new at online dating. I had chat with some girls on tinder. But some of them directly asked me to meet the same day of first chat. Is it normal? Some would avoid questions like if they speak English or if they are Russian. I am confused. Don't want to get in troubles anyway.

I also had some of the same issues and experiences. Also, they get insulted very easily, part is an act. Russian girls are also very spontaneous and hate rules, but can be very sweet / fun.

Couple of other observations.

1. They are use to insane of amount of vacations, they are holiday all the time.

2. Met some girls that have no desire to work. They feel there job is to be homemaker. I kind of laughed and said good luck. These were not Super Models, above average, but very unrealistic.

3. Allergic to 40 hour work week, not all but I met a few. Part time work is okay.

4. Love to sleep.

5. Take great care of themselves, put health first.

6. Get sick very easy.

7. Catch them is in a good mood they can be so much fun.

Love my Russian girls!

[DramaFree11]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

I was there November 2018, on my first trip to Moscow. Loved the place, but just too expensive. My Russian was throwing around crazy cash there, not for me. Beautiful girls, but almost impossible to get phone numbers and you are looking at $350-500 for an hour no way. You can get just as good girls for way less. Also, you can sponsor above average girls in Moscow for $1500-2500,(Maybe even less, depending on your looks and game), no reason to spend that kind of money, unless you are there just couple of night. Ss.

[Uncle Volodya]

Nice. Do you think there's still any Western Europe country when that type of experience can still be achieved?

Germany FKK. Did that a few years ago with a sexy brunwtte Romanian girl. At Samya. Finger cuffs. LOL.

[Member #4615]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

Prices the same that in NF?

[Member #4615]

Thanks for posting. To be honest it sounds like an awful experience and typical of Russian p4 p these days. No OWO, shit attitude, cold and business like. I was toying with the idea of going as there aren't' really a lot of good options here, but your story has convinced me not to.

This is a far cry from what this place used to be. I remember about 10 years ago me and a friend went to NF. I was going to buy him a session with a girl to thank him for a favor he did for me. We picked up this foxy Russian babe and we both ended up taking her back to his apartment and tag teaming her in a wild session that lasted for hours. I don't' think we gave her more than 200 bucks total. And she was happy with that. Those were the days....

Nice. Do you think there's still any Western Europe country when that type of experience can still be achieved?

[Member #4615]

Hi,

Sorry I am new at online dating. I had chat with some girls on tinder. But some of them directly asked me to meet the same day of first chat. Is it normal? Some would avoid questions like if they speak English or if they are Russian. I am confused. Don't want to get in troubles anyway.

The girls that try to push the date are usually trying to get a free lunch / dinner, so try to avoid them. If they avoid your questions, you should ask why they are avoiding them, and they will unmatch you straight away, and that's good, because you don't want to lose time with that type of girls.

On the other hand, lots of normal girls are tired of wasting their time in endless chats with guys that are not even in Moscow, that's why they offer to meet fast.

So yes, you should be offering just coffee after around 5 or 7 messages interchanged. Be clear about the coffee, otherwise you risk having to pay for some dinner-digger. I allow if they ask for a muffin, but if they ask for more, when I ask for the check I only pay for myself, needless to say I'm not going to see her again, but fuck it, I don't need that type of woman in my life.

Other tips:

- state your height clearly in your profile.

- don't use fake pictures.

- meet as many girls as you can, in order to get experience, just to learn to get comfortable around them.

- don't smile too much, or be over accommodating during the conversation.

- don't expect more than a conversation on the 1st date. Imagine you are having a meeting with a customer.

- try to close the 1st date with a good-bye kiss (no tongue, just lips), but don't push it.

[Ennfenn]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

Penthouse is almost same as you described. There are many racist girls like Night flight. And If you ask about special services like OWO or GFE they will say you talk too much.

[HelloMan2]

Loft Club.

This was in Oct. 2018. I wanted to try another club after NF so went to Loft. 2 Russian studs check you through metal detection upon entry, then you go up the elevator where you pay the fee and a girl brings you to the club. I sat at the bar stool. There's a dancing platform in the middle with a pole, surrounded by tables and sofas. Girls take turn dancing on the pole, and they would announce the next girl to dance. Girls will come to you individually and grind on you for a couple minutes, after which you give a tip. One girl with curly hair sat next to me and wanted me to go to room with her. She was attractive enough but I wanted to check around more. There were around 15-20 girls. Two caught my eye, one blonde and one with long black hair. The blonde came to me and asked if I wanted to go to room, I asked her services but she said she doesn't do OWO. That was sad so I didn't go with her. Later the girl with black hair came to me and wanted to go to room, again I asked her services. She started out saying no OWO, but seeing I wasn't interested, she hesitantly accepted. I also asked about other GFE things and she said "you have high demands". Haha what the heck, it's basic GFE, girl. Tbh, I seriously considered it, but I suspected she was just saying things I want to hear and decline services once in the room, finally I declined and went home empty handed. I'm glad I went to check out the club so I know what it's like. Next time, I might go to other ones like Penthouse, Aurora, etc.

[Uncle Volodya]

I'm glad that I tried Night Flight, and the girl I went with (though didn't quite perform as promised) met my standards in terms of looks, and wasn't a disaster overall. With that said, you can bet this will be my last time at Night Flight, simply because the culture these girls are operating under is not a healthy one. Non-GFE is what they live by, customer satisfaction doesn't seem to be their main focus, you can find much better experience elsewhere in Moscow at lower prices. So based on these facts, I won't go there again.

Thanks for posting. To be honest it sounds like an awful experience and typical of Russian p4 p these days. No OWO, shit attitude, cold and business like. I was toying with the idea of going as there aren't' really a lot of good options here, but your story has convinced me not to.

This is a far cry from what this place used to be. I remember about 10 years ago me and a friend went to NF. I was going to buy him a session with a girl to thank him for a favor he did for me. We picked up this foxy Russian babe and we both ended up taking her back to his apartment and tag teaming her in a wild session that lasted for hours. I don't' think we gave her more than 200 bucks total. And she was happy with that. Those were the days....

[Ennfenn]

Correct, not sure about the Facebook, part. I use my Google account instead.

Hi,

Sorry I am new at online dating. I had chat with some girls on tinder. But some of them directly asked me to meet the same day of first chat. Is it normal? Some would avoid questions like if they speak English or if they are Russian. I am confused. Don't want to get in troubles anyway.

[Member #4615]

Yes, surprised the Hell out of me!

Right. Could you elaborate a bit on how did that happen? Strategies, where did it happen.

[Member #4615]

Correct, not sure about the Facebook, part. I use my Google account instead.

Hmm, there's no way to create an account in Tinder without Facebook.

Once you have created your account using Facebook, then you can log in either with Facebook either with your phone number.