Moscow

[It Travel]

Man, may be it's not my business. But reading this forum I, as a woman, can't resist commenting such things as: "Of course she is beautiful, but as already said she has a lot of birthmarks and saggy tits…" And later you write that you spent with her wonderful time and bla-bla-bla.... Isn't it shame? A woman gave you perfect service and treated you like agentlemen. And you write these ugly things about her body, which is probably not so bad. Is this gentlemen-like? You could at least be grateful, because she could have been not so generous with you. You didn't deserve her, really.

Of course she gave me a really beautiful GFE experience…

But the birthmarks are a fact, if you see the pics I posted this time and before she is never completely naked!

I don’t want to be unfair, I just want that men going for her services know exactly how it is: how she is! So she do not loose time, meetings and so on.

She is a wonderful girl, exactly as I am a wonderful guy! But my weight is 20 kg too much, sometime I’m to lazy to shave, I smoke cigars, I like vodka, etc. etc. (best of all I like Ikra!).

We were also to a bar together… no change, only 1.000 RUR notes, she paid! And forgot to ask me for the money, she got it in any case the morning after…


Do you think this is enough to answer you Helena?

IT

[Helena Moscow]

Ah - Guido - I rememebr the old saw - "I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but I've woken up with a few" (also the "definition" of "beer goggles" - enough beer and even a sheep looks beutiful)

We say in Russia: "If you find a woman ugly probably you need more vodka".

[Dinghy]

Ah - Guido - I rememebr the old saw - "I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but I've woken up with a few" (also the "definition" of "beer goggles" - enough beer and even a sheep looks beutiful)

[Helena Moscow]

Dear Friends,

In last days I had to much work for writing on Valentina (or Margarita)…

Of course she is beautiful, but as already said she has a lot of birthmarks and saggy tits… but the best is the GFE experience which is fantastic. Sleeping and taking her in the morning!

All the expressions she has with her little teen face (she’s 22 now) are fantastic specially when you are nailing her anally in missionary position with her legs on your shoulder and you look deep in her brown eyes. WOW!

A couple of weeks ago I took her for three nights in a week!

See the pics in pics section.

By the way I’ll be in Moscow soon again (I have also a well known driver) and would like to know from more experts the best addresses or areas for winter tockas…

I’ll be there in the weekend March 18-20, somebody there for a beer?

IT

Man, may be it's not my business. But reading this forum I, as a woman, can't resist commenting such things as: "Of course she is beautiful, but as already said she has a lot of birthmarks and saggy tits…" And later you write that you spent with her wonderful time and bla-bla-bla.... Isn't it shame? A woman gave you perfect service and treated you like agentlemen. And you write these ugly things about her body, which is probably not so bad. Is this gentlemen-like? You could at least be grateful, because she could have been not so generous with you. You didn't deserve her, really.

[It Travel]

Dear Friends,

In last days I had to much work for writing on Valentina (or Margarita)…

Of course she is beautiful, but as already said she has a lot of birthmarks and saggy tits… but the best is the GFE experience which is fantastic. Sleeping and taking her in the morning!

All the expressions she has with her little teen face (she’s 22 now) are fantastic specially when you are nailing her anally in missionary position with her legs on your shoulder and you look deep in her brown eyes. WOW!

A couple of weeks ago I took her for three nights in a week!

See the pics in pics section.

By the way I’ll be in Moscow soon again (I have also a well known driver) and would like to know from more experts the best addresses or areas for winter tockas…

I’ll be there in the weekend March 18-20, somebody there for a beer?

IT

[Guido88]

in light of recent discussions.


police are warning all men who frequent clubs, parties & local pubs to be alert and stay cautious when offered a drink from any woman. many females use a date [CodeWord123] drug on the market called "beer."

the drug is found in liquid form and is available anywhere. it comes in bottles, cans, or from taps and in large "kegs". beer is used by female sexual predators at parties and bars to persuade their male victims to go home and sleep with them.

a woman needs only to get a guy to consume a few units of beer and then simply ask him home for no strings attached sex.

men are rendered helpless against this approach. after several beers, men will often succumb to the desires to sleep with horrific looking women whom they would never normally be attracted.

after drinking beer, men often awaken with only hazy memories of exactly what happened to them the night before, often with just a vague feeling that "something bad" occurred.

at other times these unfortunate men are swindled out of their life's savings, in a familiar scam known as "a relationship."

in extreme cases, the female may even be shrewd enough to entrap the unsuspecting male into a longer term form of servitude and punishment referred to as "marriage." men are much more susceptible to this scam after beer is administered and sex is offered by the predatory females.

please! forward this warning to every male you know.

if you fall victim to this "beer" scam and the women administering it, there are male support groups where you can discuss the details of your shocking encounter with similarly victimized men.

for the support group nearest you, just look up golf courses" in the phone book.

beer demo for the horrors:
http://www.brackenspub.com/beer.swf


guido88

[One O Nine]

There have been rumors of CF closing for how long now? Somehow I doubt it'll happen anytime soon. There's this jewelry store in the buidling I was born in. It's had a "going out of business, everything must go, 75% off" sign for as long as I remember. They replace it every summer when the letters begin to fade. Perfect business model to lure in the clueless out of towners.

At CF, sometimes you get fucked, and sometimes you get fucked.

[Robie]

Hi all, I've never been in Moscow (just few times in Prague and Budapest) but would like to have a sex-weekend there, please, can someone of the Moscow-pro's give hints and reply to my questions, thx a lot.

- don't speak any word in Russki and can't read this cyrillic, are there any sex guides or brochures, articles in latin script?

- I watched some "prostitutiki" sites like http://www.putana.org/ - http://gosex.ru/enter.php and http://www.spbgirls.ru/ - (aaah, there are hotties there..) I cannot believe that all the pics are genuine and sure some are stolen, is there a trick how to check out? (yea, yea, I know.. knock on Ellis door..) Are the Russia girls really so hot they look like?

- Unfortunately there are nowhere email-contacts, only phone numb - do the girls speak english, german or even parla italiano - rofl?

- When you call the girls, who do you get on phone? Hopefully not the pimps or grandpa Zhukov, or worse - the husband.

Last but not least, I was thinking over to go to Bucarest or Moscow. Have anyone expirience to tell where the girls are better? I heard about that in Romania the girls are a bit "rude" - true?

Thank you guys, Robert

[CA Traveler]

M3207... sexplorer travels all over the world for long weekend trips.

Just a point on CF... I expect that the short timers attitude will soon develop if they are in fact closing on 31 March. They will not care what happens and will look to maximize revenue by any means.

[Moscow Wolf]

I just have a question?

NF is Night flight and what abbreviation CF means?

Thank you.

Lover

Chesterfield, also known as Doug & Marty's and Boar House.

[Lover]

I just have a question?

NF is Night flight and what abbreviation CF means?

Thank you.

Lover

[Etaoin2003]

I just wanted to remind everyone that we're in the business of getting drunk and visiting seedy places to pick up loose women. You just can't expect the same level of security and customer service you're used to at your local Nordstrom's.

Here it is only February and already we may have the quote of the year! This should be tattooed on the back of our right hands.

Oh, the moment of Zen. My post count is my user name. I should never post again.

Quick! Buy a lottery ticket, the planets are in alignment.

[Member #3207]

Has anyone traveled to Moscow for a long weekend from the US.

Would you recommend it.

[One O Nine]

There's this great Russian cartoon hanging in my friend's office. A little boy steps onto the roadway, and an old hag pulls him back onto the sidewalk and begins to lecture him, pointing at a traffic light. As she's doing that, she gets hit by a truck.

I just wanted to remind everyone that we're in the business of getting drunk and visiting seedy places to pick up loose women. You just can't expect the same level of security and customer service you're used to at your local Nordstrom's.


By the way, back on topic, I went to Mister XXX last night, and it's still my favorite Moscow strip club. My only wish is that they had more girls, but that's only because I've been there too many times and know pretty much everybody. That can get pretty annoying. Still, they have actual stage shows which are great to watch, with costumes and choreography and lighting, and the place is very laid back and not at all aggressive. Just be wary of the 1,500 r drinks for the girls, which is the standard price for anything a dancer may order.

My own visit didn't go that great because this girl I just couldn't keep away from all summer was there, and she spent the entire two hours literally crying on my shoulder. The club apparently has some new management, and it was her turn to sleep with the new boss. I just can't handle that kind of realism. I couldn't send her off, was unable to strike up anything with a waitress with the most amazing ass, so I ended up going home with another dancer I've already done before. It was still good sex with a great looking woman, but just not enough adventure and too much drama for my taste. Your mileage will vary of course, since I don't suppose anyone else has this much baggage with that place.

[Edit] Oh, the moment of Zen. My post count is my user name. I should never post again.

[Doctor_Skank]

My comments on the safety issue.

Guido and Big Bro are right that we should remember that we are foreigners in a mildly xenophobic society with a ridiculous gap between rich and poor. Behaving as if Moscow (and its girls) are our own personal playthings may serve us well at times, however just because we say "nothings ever happened to me before", it doesnt mean we should let our guard down and avoid the necessary caution. It's also important to respect the girls.

I also believe however that the worst course of action is to become paranoid about the city.

Seems to me that CF/Boarhouse has a serious security problem that needs to be managed by us... don't expect CF management or its security to do anything. If they aren't actually somehow involved in the incidents they are at least impartial to them. CF is well-known as the lazy foreigners watering hole and whoring venue... I ought to know, I am lazy enough to go there entirely too often myself. Obviously news gets around that cash-happy foreigners go there, often get absolutely ripped (drunk) and are looking to score with either pros or some loose ladies. Occasionally normal or even exceptionally charming girls wind up there too, but generally speaking after midnight its skank city.... some great pros but a lot of average pros as well, and obviously a share of scheming wenches.

I will continue to go there because I have often had a great time... its a bit like McDonalds in that sense... it may not be great, but at least you always know what to expect.... and $100-200 will always get you laid.

"Unfortunately Moscow seems to be moving towards the Fuck the foreigner’s mindset. "

Marginally true in my opinion, but it seems that CF is the majority of that part of the problem. The rest of the city may not be foreigner-friendly, but they aren't looking to scam the foreigner either.

"Watch your drink at all times."

Very true. I do, even though it is admittedly hard to watch it all times. There are plenty of other interesting things to watch too....

"Lock you apartment door always."

Absolutely.

"Don’t get so shitfaced drunk that you loose your ability to be aware of what’s going on. Our own Doc Skank operates best in this knee-walking drunk condition, most of the rest us do not."

I don't know if my condition should be described as knee-walking drunk, but alk will reduce not only your inhibitions, but also your cognitive skills, your perception and your judgement. Maintining poise and balance is the key. Alk is fun, but too much could very well ruin your evening. I try not to get that drunk too.... but sometimes fail. Thankfully I have been lucky. Knock on wood.

"Sounds as though CT may have found an interesting alternative in Odessa."

There are numerous alternatives, but there still is no 2nd Moscow. Love or hate it... my love for the city is eternal.

"Try not to use credit cards at bars, even in restaurants."

I wouldn't use a card at a bar, but at restaurants and ATMs I think it is OK... in any case for me, credit card use is sometimes a necessary evil. I carry a good deal of cash, but carrying too much cash is also a bad idea. Cash is just waiting to be spent, lost or stolen.

"Carry only the necessary amount of cash in rubles and/or dollars; passport, return ticket and registration document. (Better not to carry wallet). "

Hard to gauge what the necessary amount is... but generally correct. Don't bring your home mortgage and savings fund with you...

"If you have fancy watch or valuables, keep them in safe when you go out."

The fancy watch is a weapon that I prefer to use. It may attract attention, but I find the attention attracted to be positive. It isnt that every girl sees the watch and thinks "I want his money".. it just suggests success, and women like successful men. Winners.

"Do not try to attract women with money. Hunter may turn into a hunt."

Flashing too much cash and making your relative wealth the focal point of attack is indeed risky. At the very least you are going to meet only girls who see you as "a wallet". I also dont find flashing cash to be particularly effective in Moscow... or maybe I just haven't been flashing enough...

"If you are going to an incall, prefer to go there at daytime. If possible first meet her somewhere else (coffee shop or bar). If you don’t like the apartment or feel insecure, leave the place. I prefer incalls. It’s too risky but I like the adrenaline and made love at her own bed."

Searching for outcall apartments late at night is indeed asking for trouble.

"Some said keep an eye on your drink or if it tastes different order another one. Yes, this is important but how many of us really do that. "

Sometimes it is very impractical. Just used heightened caution.

"The list and warnings may go on."

Yes.... but let's keep things relative. Moscow has its risks, but it isnt as if the city is out to get you. You have to remain the hunter, always. Don't let the city... or it's girls, turn the tables on you.

I might just add that it is important to remember that especially pros, but also some normal girls, may mean the best... but when presented with an opportunity to take advantage of a situation and steal from a "rich" foreigner... they may not be able to resist the temptation. Try to avoid giving them these temptations.... i.e watch your cash and valuables.

Admittedly we all go overboard sometimes, but we should try to keep things in check. As for me, I think I'll go overboard again tonight.