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01-25-06 21:11 #68
Posts: 2565To all CC users
Sorry fot the comment, but perhaps going only to Moscow and SPB you perhaps do not know that ATM's in Russia run on two different systems.
National
International (sometimes operating only National)
In Moscow and in SPB lots are International so people think it's just a malfuncion... It is not. It is a National one...
International are clearly signed and outside Moscow and SPB are only in major banks not even all... some are in Hotels, but very few outside Moscow. Still today in own like Kazan (1.5 millions) you will find not more than 10 always working.
In some shops ATM are intended for Russians so they are not international even in they show some kind of familiar sign...
As other ISG users said use ATM only in well known banks and hotels.
IT
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01-25-06 16:49 #67
Posts: 73CC and cold
I have usually had no problem getting cash from machines associated at or inside a real bank. The ones I could not access were isolated on the street or in a cafe. There must be some difference between them.
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I complained about the cold but when properly dressed it was a real blast to be crunching around in the cold. But when out for extended periods the small openings of facial skin started to freeze. Also the cold made my eyes run then the fluid would freeze on my cheeks. I would duck inside some place when I needed to to warm up.
OE
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01-25-06 00:11 #66
Posts: 299Originally Posted by Camieleke
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01-25-06 00:06 #65
Posts: 299Originally Posted by Eastwood777
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01-24-06 23:55 #64
Posts: 299Originally Posted by Shostakovich
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01-24-06 19:56 #63
Posts: 14326
Hi Doc,
real pitty that you have to stay there without wingman....
Anyhow if you feel lonly I stored a present box with 4 bottles wodka on the rooftop from the sleeping room cabinet... :-)
Russian winter is IMHO the best season to visit Moscow...Hope this maniacs left some snow in the city because usally the use thousand's of trucks to carry this lovely powder out of the town...
Tuesday we got, o.k. forget about PJ...PZ is on tonight..
Cheers
Shos
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01-24-06 19:48 #62
Posts: 2626CC and 26
Shos:
Actually I was thinking the same thing... I have a gold visa from a Euro bank and also have never had problems... neither at ATMs, restaurants or shops... (hear me knocking loudly on wood)...
BTW: nice to hear from you! I am in "your apartment" and enjoying the Moscow winter weather... Moscow in winter rules! Very special atmosphere...
give me a call or PM, would be great to launch another Russian front offensive!
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01-24-06 19:25 #61
Posts: 143CC problems
Hi,
from my expierence I never had any problem to get cash in Russia with VISA card. I use german one supplied by LUFTHANSA or the one supplied by my bank. I dont know if the mentioned problem only for in America issued cards appears. Since Russian authorithies still in big love with with american basics.
ATM's I use are only from Western Bank's like Citibank or USB
I use the CC also to pay in restaurant but only in places I know since Years.
Knocking on wood in the past 10 Years no problems...
Cheers
Shos
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01-24-06 17:17 #60
Posts: 20Originally Posted by It Travel
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01-24-06 08:46 #59
Posts: 703In previous visits, I had no problems in cash withdraw from Finansbank and Citibank.
I prefer to use Bank ATM's for several reasons as IT mentioned.
Once I had late lunch at Hard Rock Cafe in Arbat. I asked check and gave my credit card. They brought someone else platinum express card with my credit card. I was stupidly honest, that's why I called the shift manager and gave him the card.
Since than I only use cash.
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01-24-06 08:44 #58
Posts: 2565Moscow Mongers
By the way nobody is in Moscow next week?
And somebody has infos on these girls I've contacted....
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=613288
An 18 teen offering afternoon services... for long period and monthly fee (good english) even weekly fees...
And:
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=612293
Diana interpreter-mistress (!) interested in weekly services but already 34 y.o.
And last two teens... one 23 and one 22
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=613409
http://dating.omen.ru/love.pl?f=ushow&f_id=603320
I would be very interested specially if some body can PM me the last two telephones, they leave out only ICQ.
IT
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01-24-06 08:32 #57
Posts: 2565Atm
I had similar problems too in 2002, now I solved them using a Master Card (I have a five digit PIN) only in some ATMs.
The ones from Seberbank Rossii (wrong spelling I know...) and from the ATM which is in the Delta lounge of Izmailovo Hotel...
I never use the shop or metro ATMs, where it's easy to put recording systems and cameras for taking the PIN.
Other ATMs not to be used are the ones at the arrival at SVO 2 terminal. I have seen guys trying to look at you when composing the PIN (!) and then surely taking in some way an alectronic copy of your CC, or direcly from your wallet!.
By the way I never use a CC in a bar, shop or restaurant (Elisevsky or Gastronom n° 1 as you like to call it excluded).
If you need cash bring it from home, or get in a bank (a reliable one) with CC, Passport, visa and registration, and preferably another ID (some asked me for two) ad get your RUR. It will cost you 3-4 %, but it's totally safe.
IT
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01-24-06 08:17 #56
Posts: 703Atm
Two weeks ago, before the extreme cold weather, I also tried to use visa credit card and Mastercard card to withdraw Rubles and Dollars. But both cards had to be blocked.
When I talked with my bank, they said that lately there had been too many ATM frauds happened in Moscow. Therefore to protect the customers, international banks and card services blocked most of the cards when they were used in ATM'S in Moscow.
They also suspected that bank employees were part of it. Not only I was warned about the ATM, they also warned for "double post machines". Some customer's credit cards had been doubled in fancy resturants.
"CASH IS KING"....QUATED IN NF
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01-24-06 06:24 #55
Posts: 166Yes! That's not just with Visa either. I had pretty much everything blocked on me. While fleetingly annoying, it's really very comforting.
However, I wouldn't recommend bringing extra cards "just in case". On the contrary, after a series of blocks I stopped bringing any cards to Russia except my ATM card. I fill all the remaining slots in my wallet with expired Gold and Platinum cards so it doesn't look silly when I open it in front of a dyev. I never felt particularly comfortable using credit cards in Russia anyway, after I had a bunch of unauthorized charges put on my cards after a visit to St Petersburg in 2003.
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01-23-06 20:08 #54
Posts: 3257Logistics details for Moscow
First off, at the moment, there are lots of empty hotel rooms in Moscow due to the extreme cold, although it is true that there will be a deficit when things warm up.
Secondly, most VISA cards do get blocked for use in Russia, this is virtually automatic now. You need to call your credit card/debit card company, using the telephone number on the back, and ask for the "fraud prevention" department, to which you will be transferred (you should do this before leaving the USA obviosuly). Tell them the dates you will be in Russia, and to unblock your card.
Since they may re-block it at any time, carry multiple cards to avoid embarassment.