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  1. #7218
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    Does "relief" mean sex or handjob?

    Were the girls Russian?
    Handjob. Girl was russian. You can see nice videos of girls in their telegram channel.

  2. #7217
    Oh I forgot to mention "Margarita" right in front of Bron. Sometimes there is live music there, but it is in fact just a restaurant. Not a bad place, but small too (as usual in the Patriki), so sometimes quite crowded, at least when I was there last time. But this can also be a good sign, showing that it is popular. The food was great.

    Quote Originally Posted by Putologist  [View Original Post]
    Oh I thought it's BRON because the name of the street, sorry my bad. Yes, it's a nice place (but personally I only know this one at Patriki), I went there with a date once, ate pizza and drank red wine. In Russia we guys are supposed to pay, there is no alternative, so I was impressed with the bill, but played cool, which paid off later ha ha. But still lower than Aist which is some meters down the street. But also a nice place. Both inside the "Garden Ring" like the entire Patriki. But by crossing over to the other side, in general the prices go down a bit (as far as I remember), specially restaurants and shops. In the Barrikadnya area (which is already off the ring) also a place to visit, it's the area of the zoo, planetarium etc. The old school expats remember a club there called "the real mccoy". Legendary place, I heard some hot stories about it. But they closed long time ago. The times changed. There is however a club called "Plan be" which used to be "Tikki bar", also a lot of freebies there, free entrance but face control (like in almost all clubs in Moscow) , just wear a decent outfit and you are free to go. Moscow is a nice city to visit.

  3. #7216
    Oh I thought it's BRON because the name of the street, sorry my bad. Yes, it's a nice place (but personally I only know this one at Patriki), I went there with a date once, ate pizza and drank red wine. In Russia we guys are supposed to pay, there is no alternative, so I was impressed with the bill, but played cool, which paid off later ha ha. But still lower than Aist which is some meters down the street. But also a nice place. Both inside the "Garden Ring" like the entire Patriki. But by crossing over to the other side, in general the prices go down a bit (as far as I remember), specially restaurants and shops. In the Barrikadnya area (which is already off the ring) also a place to visit, it's the area of the zoo, planetarium etc. The old school expats remember a club there called "the real mccoy". Legendary place, I heard some hot stories about it. But they closed long time ago. The times changed. There is however a club called "Plan be" which used to be "Tikki bar", also a lot of freebies there, free entrance but face control (like in almost all clubs in Moscow) , just wear a decent outfit and you are free to go. Moscow is a nice city to visit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg27  [View Original Post]
    My pleasure. It is BRO&. First letter of Nebraska. Automatic correction is a real trouble. They have several brances around the city. Always crowded. I have enjoyed patricki very well. Also Keanu and others. Understand you very well. I am really sad I couldn't spend so much time for WGs. I believe that there are very nice choices for 50-100 Eur band. When you go standard way you usually get 150-200 USD per hour which is the average all around the world.

  4. #7215
    Quote Originally Posted by Putologist  [View Original Post]
    Nice report, thanks!

    The restaurant you mean is "BRON" at patriki by the Novikov Group?! Nice restaurant, they opened few years ago. For my pocket it's quite expensive. In the weekend is always full, specially in the evening. A small place. So, often people wait outside ha ha 'so where is the fucking crisis? I ask myself'. But the food is good. by the way Novikov has some good restaurants all over Russia. For chasing freebies the entire Patriki area is perfect, I think only New Arbat can beat it. But you have to dress up, it's high end area like Iceberg wrote. Or just seat on the grass at the pounds after lunch and watch the white swans playing, while drinking a cup of coffee. Priceless. There is BTW a place right across the street called Keanu- There are some low-key WGs there after 23:00. Enter, smile around, and the girls who smile back is either wg or you got the freebie jackpot (if she is top ofc) ha ha just kidding. I went there just for drink and flirting. Before that I ate at Belarusskaya International Eat Market, where the prices are cheaper and you have more options of food, plus not overcrowded like the pounds. But the Patriki is superb, and I think this summer it will be more popular due to the movie "master and Margarita". It will be a hot summer. Trivia: It's not "bro" like brother. It's because it's at Malaya Bro-nnaya street (as mentioned by Bulgakov).
    My pleasure. It is BRO&. First letter of Nebraska. Automatic correction is a real trouble. They have several brances around the city. Always crowded. I have enjoyed patricki very well. Also Keanu and others. Understand you very well. I am really sad I couldn't spend so much time for WGs. I believe that there are very nice choices for 50-100 Eur band. When you go standard way you usually get 150-200 USD per hour which is the average all around the world.

  5. #7214
    Nice report, thanks!

    The restaurant you mean is "BRON" at patriki by the Novikov Group?! Nice restaurant, they opened few years ago. For my pocket it's quite expensive. In the weekend is always full, specially in the evening. A small place. So, often people wait outside ha ha 'so where is the fucking crisis? I ask myself'. But the food is good. by the way Novikov has some good restaurants all over Russia. For chasing freebies the entire Patriki area is perfect, I think only New Arbat can beat it. But you have to dress up, it's high end area like Iceberg wrote. Or just seat on the grass at the pounds after lunch and watch the white swans playing, while drinking a cup of coffee. Priceless. There is BTW a place right across the street called Keanu- There are some low-key WGs there after 23:00. Enter, smile around, and the girls who smile back is either wg or you got the freebie jackpot (if she is top ofc) ha ha just kidding. I went there just for drink and flirting. Before that I ate at Belarusskaya International Eat Market, where the prices are cheaper and you have more options of food, plus not overcrowded like the pounds. But the Patriki is superb, and I think this summer it will be more popular due to the movie "master and Margarita". It will be a hot summer. Trivia: It's not "bro" like brother. It's because it's at Malaya Bro-nnaya street (as mentioned by Bulgakov).

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg27  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.

  6. #7213
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg27  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.
    Does "relief" mean sex or handjob?

    Were the girls Russian?

  7. #7212

    MOSCOW April

    Hi everyone. I was in moscow for 9 days from 5 to 14th April. This time I have really found a good MP. Search for Talisman in Telegram and Yandex Maps. Price starts from 5000 ruble for one relief included. I paid 7000 for 2 relief and one time shower with girl. She was 20 yo hot chick. Really lovely. When I have entered the room , I had asked for water and they told me it is 200 rubles. And I rejected. Girl brought me one glass of water from her own. Really friendly staff. She did everything to make me happy. Last time I have tried Vanilia and I can tell you Talisman is lower in price and higher in service. Also atmosphere is much better. Regarding strip clubs; Virgins have been my number one. I have been also in Notch with my friend s advice. They charged me 2500 rubles for entrance. And a bar seat given. In Virgins I have membership and free entrance with a table in front of stage. We have been in night club scene many times. In week days zero activity. But through weekend you will not believe in your eyes how many nice girls are around the night clubs. But I must tell you it is not easy to make a one night stand. You must play the dating game. For payments it is possible to get a Raiffeisen bank account and an account card very fast. I got it in 20 minutes from the branch close to Old Arbat. You just need your passport (No translation of passport necessary) your visa and some rubles to put your account. Everyhting was so easy after that point. I had cash USD in my pocket and exchanged rubles in Okhotny Ryad Shopping Center. And put the rubles in my Raiffesen account through and ATM. Raiffesen Card is valid in all shops-restaurants and in Yandex Go. I was ordering everything to my apartment. Even milk and egg was delivered to my apartment. Bro & and restaurant is also another recommended place to eat. Very nice italian food with a reasonable price at a high end restaurant.

  8. #7211
    Quote Originally Posted by MythoVirus  [View Original Post]
    Moscow field report. April 2024 (6 days of exploring).

    I have seen many debate the status of Moscow as a mongering destination. Some praising it to the point of utopia. Some stating its mid or even mediocre. Since I am an avid CIS seeker, I finally decided to pull the trigger and observe the scene with my own eyes.

    If I have to categorize Mongering scene in Moscow it will be something along this line.

    -Indie local sites such as intimicity.

    -Escort agencies.

    -Strip clubs.

    -Erotic message spas.

    -Dating / sugar daddying via apps.

    -Finding a nonpro hookup from a bar / club / cafe.

    Since I didn't attempt the latter two, I can't comment on the scene.

    Indie local websites
    Wow! Sounds like fun! I miss Moscow so much, Moscow was paradise for me! I am not sure if I will ever go back, I am having too much fun in CDMX and MTY, but I miss the Moscow night life.

    Just curious, how much were you paying for girls?

    I am jealous, great report.

  9. #7210

    First timer in Moscow

    Moscow field report. April 2024 (6 days of exploring).

    I have seen many debate the status of Moscow as a mongering destination. Some praising it to the point of utopia. Some stating its mid or even mediocre. Since I am an avid CIS seeker, I finally decided to pull the trigger and observe the scene with my own eyes.

    If I have to categorize Mongering scene in Moscow it will be something along this line.

    -Indie local sites such as intimicity.

    -Escort agencies.

    -Strip clubs.

    -Erotic message spas.

    -Dating / sugar daddying via apps.

    -Finding a nonpro hookup from a bar / club / cafe.

    Since I didn't attempt the latter two, I can't comment on the scene.

    Indie local websites:

    I didn't do major research in this field. Did attempt some watsapp / telegram messages. Mostly no response, or ghosting after saying Hi or asking for pre-payment. I was using a foreigner number probably that didn't help. I regret I didn't do further attempts, but that's for the next visit, I'm sure mongering in Moscow is elevated to excellent level from those sites.

    WG via Agency:

    I came across multiple agencies that promote ladies, most of them agreed for no pre-payment after understanding bank card situation (sanctions etc.), I was only asking for outcalls for 2 hours, prices are around 25 k-40 k (+1 to 2 k for taxi) for that duration, with few outliers both ways. I was using google translate, but I am sure most will respond to English. Services include protected sex, OWO, kissing (DFK), DATY, most allow COB with basic price. Extra are to be found. The girls were within good standerds optic / service wise. Only once faced bait and switch, otherwise you get what you ask for. Most of them work in telegram, and having channels to promote the ladies working with prices up front. Most agencies that I contacted shared similar WG with other agencies around 60-70% so that mildly hindered the selection, overall what was available was more than enough but still a larger selection would be appreciated further, and probably many agencies I didn't even come across, so imo agencies by themselves can be more than enough if you seek once or twice meetup / day. And the 25-30 k WG is similar in price to most good looking indies, so I think it was a fair price. I stayed in one of the Radisson, it was green allowing me to invite however number of WG as long as I pick the ladies from reception (without asking for ID for the guest).

    Stripclubs:

    I ventured into Angel / Haunters / Notch.

    As stated prior. They are owned by the same businessman so prices / structure is the same in all of them, with difference in decoration / setup only and the talents ofcourse. ID say its a good time if you don't mind wasting some rubles. Very safe, controlled enviroment. Sex can be had, but I never asked for it, and I was never pressured for private dance or sex. I tipped with 200 when a stripper shakes her barebutt on me for half a minute, and never noticed a bad look, and always was thanked and they move on, and many come back later for another dance. Tried shisha at haunters and tbh it was super, really enjoyed it, and since the ladies arent allowed to smoke cig / vape in the main area (only allowed to smoke in private premises like the changing room), so you can gather many ladies on you to smoke shisha as its the only allowed method to smoke for the ladies in the strip club, and they came like hoards LOL. It might be YMMV, but I found the bar ladies / waitress in general to have better optics than strippers. Did enjoy the company of bar ladies for 2 k fee for 15 min, they chat and you can touch, and after they leave they serve you later on with a happy smile. Other crazy menu stuff are to be offered but didn't entice me. Overall its worth visiting as its unique in a way, its one of the few strip clubs in the world with almost zero scams, sex can be had if you are willing to pay, and if sex wasnt your thing (like me) the atmosphere is fun to rest between rounds from indies / escorts.

    Erotic spa:

    I checked out Vanilia / Soho (both same management) and Malvina. Vanilia / Soho were much more elegant and looks luxury compared to Malvina. All 3 erotic spa offered good service. The beauty standards of erotic spa is way better than strip clubs (again it might YMMV) but what I saw there is no competition. Anyways I tried some erotic message, with sakura, imitation of oral, shower with lady, didn't try urological (not my cup of tea), and handjob is offered (?tangem) but I declined it as I thought releasing from handjob is a waste of cum. The ladies were elegant, they truly act like lady-like, soft, tender, and really trying to make you leave with a good memory, non rushed service. The managers respond via telegram for appointment and to guide you to location and they were all professionals. Also they inform you who is working and send you some pics to help you decide. When I arrive I see at least around 8 WG and probably there is more if I ask for others. Since I visited 3 times their establishment I got offered free vodka shots as a thank you. I spent 8 k / hour. Malvina wasn't bad too, but yeah the former 2 were more elite.

    The city was a scene to be had, walking around in the city and getting lost in it and just walking for hours was enjoyable. The traffic is shit tho. Yandex does miracle for taxi prices, always go yandex. Stopping a taxi the old way will probably lead to 10 x inflated price. The internet sometimes goes crazy in the center of the city which can lead to significant malfunction of yandex maps / google maps. Never had any issue with safety. Airports easy to get into and out of, didn't face big lines, or difficulty in navigating the airport.

    Tldr. Mongering first time for a non-Russian speaking person like myself isn't hard. There are plenty of choice for mongering. I wouldn't say its utopia, nor it was bad. Its good worth trying maybe once or twice a year me. Its more worth it if you want to stay for long term to explore indies and non-pro. But for a tourist like myself interested for a short trip which is 6 h away from Moscow by airplane, I have many options near me that can do the job.

    Will I repeat Moscow? Definitely yes even though it wasn't as perfect as I thought it would have been.

  10. #7209
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

    Can you tell me the average prices for girls in Moscow? Any top website to check the prices and girls?
    I paid around 100 $/ HR few years back, all girls have different prices at the salon. I'm not aware of current prices but at Putologist can update you on that and with some telegram channels. But what I would like to mention is that I didn't see any 'original fake' women in Moscow or for that matter any other cities including St P. Most women were 100 % natural born female! This experience is vastly different to some EU cities these days unfortunately.

  11. #7208

    Anyone particularly Indian who mongered in Moscow, Russia?

    I know that in India some of us have met russian working girls and experiences tend to be mixed but I'm just curious if anyone of us has ever been to Russia and mongered there.

    How was your overall experience? What was your budget? Were the working girls prettier and much younger than the russian ones you typically find in India? Did the communication barrier made it significantly difficult to meet them or are they reluctant to meet Indians? How was their behaviour with an Indian and overall did you find the experience with the working girls there to be positive and safe?

    Would be great if experienced mongers who have been there could share their insight.

  12. #7207
    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignRomeo  [View Original Post]
    This will depend on when did you go there, the passport you hold as well as what was the purpose and length of your stay in Ukraine. Did you go on business / company visa or tourist / entry on arrival visa. Get your story straight before you land there. They gave me lot of headache when I landed there few months before this ongoing war / smo.
    Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

    Can you tell me the average prices for girls in Moscow? Any top website to check the prices and girls?

  13. #7206
    Quote Originally Posted by Putologist  [View Original Post]
    IMO mongering in general did not change much under sanctions. I saw less Westerners, but more Asian / Latin / African tourists. So, it's more or less the same, just the origins are different. Covid had more impact in people's life.

    About banking: I don't think it's possible to transfer Western funds to a Russian Visa / Mastercard / Mir account. It's not connected to SWIFT anymore as far as I remember.

    Canadian homie of mine did like this: he brought US $ , changed into RUB upon arrival in Russia and made deposit into this "debit bank account for tourists" that you are referring to. This way he had a fully functioning payment card to use in Russia. Why is this a big deal: In some cities when you enter the bus / trolley / tram they have the terminal that only accepts contact less payment, as far as I remember, later the ticket inspector comes with her device and check in the system if you paid by scanning your card. But sometimes she does not show up.

    To enter the metro, you can also use your Russian bank card (better than to stay in line at Kassa for a paper ticket).
    Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!

    Can you tell me the average prices for girls in Moscow? Any top website to check the prices and girls?

  14. #7205
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Ukraine 3 times and so I have 3 stamps of Ukraine visits on my passport. I heard some tourists were deported or rejected entry into Russia as they had visited Ukraine once. I am planning to visit Russia now and so a bit worried if I will face such issue.
    This will depend on when did you go there, the passport you hold as well as what was the purpose and length of your stay in Ukraine. Did you go on business / company visa or tourist / entry on arrival visa. Get your story straight before you land there. They gave me lot of headache when I landed there few months before this ongoing war / smo.

  15. #7204
    IMO mongering in general did not change much under sanctions. I saw less Westerners, but more Asian / Latin / African tourists. So, it's more or less the same, just the origins are different. Covid had more impact in people's life.

    About banking: I don't think it's possible to transfer Western funds to a Russian Visa / Mastercard / Mir account. It's not connected to SWIFT anymore as far as I remember.

    Canadian homie of mine did like this: he brought US $ , changed into RUB upon arrival in Russia and made deposit into this "debit bank account for tourists" that you are referring to. This way he had a fully functioning payment card to use in Russia. Why is this a big deal: In some cities when you enter the bus / trolley / tram they have the terminal that only accepts contact less payment, as far as I remember, later the ticket inspector comes with her device and check in the system if you paid by scanning your card. But sometimes she does not show up.

    To enter the metro, you can also use your Russian bank card (better than to stay in line at Kassa for a paper ticket).

    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Ukraine 3 times and so I have 3 stamps of Ukraine visits on my passport. I heard some tourists were deported or rejected entry into Russia as they had visited Ukraine once. I am planning to visit Russia now and so a bit worried if I will face such issue.

    How is the mongering scene now after sanctions? Ofcourse the ATMs will give some trouble.

    Also, I heard Russia now lets everyone open a bank account as Visa and Mastercard are not working in Russia after the sanctions. Can you transfer funds to that newly opened Russian bank account?

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