Moscow

[YummyPL]

I lost my notes on Day 5. I know not much happened but I am not sure why I did not have a lunch date planned. I know I wanted to have the evening at home with the girls because this was Nadya's last night with me.

Around 14:00 I contacted my new girl Maria (Masha) and asked if she could meet me for an early dinner. I had told her I had arrived in Moscow on Monday, two days earlier. She agreed and we met near her metro station at around 18:00 and went to a place called El Basco Tapas Bar. It was quiet, and had good food for the price. It was a good place to sit and talk. She seemed thrilled to be there with me and liked the single rose I got her. This girl was easy to please. I've not had such a positive initial reaction since I first met my girl Olga.

We had a nice conversation and after dinner we went for a short walk around the neighborhood. We held hands and she held my arm. At about 20:30 I told her I had to go (I had told her when we set up the date). We had a brief but nice kiss goodnight and I departed on the metro. A few minutes after I left she texted me and thanked me for the evening and the rose. Good start although it was obvious this girl was a husband hunter.

I get back to the apartment at about 21:30 to join Nadya and Kori. We drank together and I was showing Nadya some attention. She was friendlier than she had been. At around midnight we all decided to go on a walk. We walk all the way from Arbat to Pushkinskaya and then to Red Square before returning home around 4. It was fun. The three of us drank a little more and then we went to bed. This night Nadya spent the night with me but with no sex. We just slept holding each other like close friends. I guess we will keep our relationship there. Probably for the best anyway.

Picture of Masha I did not take but gives you a good idea. Really very nice for a 28 year old.

End of Day 5

[YummyPL]

but the same night around 1 am I am rudely denied at che by a bodyguard.

But Che is very popular and very tiny. I've not tried to enter there at 01:00 on a weekend night. I suspect some handsome oligarchs might be denied without passing some cash to the manager or doorman...

I am curious if anybody has experience reserving a table at Che?

[Iceberg27]

I agree using the Web for first meeting is good. I can't pretend to give advice to someone that is there much more than I am, but it seems socializing outside of nightclubs can be effective.

May I ask your ethnicity? What clothes you wear? I am an American white guy and have never been denied by face control anywhere, but Iceburg is Turkish and he also got into Old School Pub and had a great time.

He is right about the time. I was let in because it was 10:30 pm when I try to enter O. S. P. There was only one young bodyguard in front of the door and he didn't even notice that I enter but the same night around 1 am I am rudely denied at che by a bodyguard. If you have time it s of course better to use web to meet girls but personally I don't have time and patience for this. So people like me must find another way to meet with them.

[Member #2096]

I agree using the Web for first meeting is good. I can't pretend to give advice to someone that is there much more than I am, but it seems socializing outside of nightclubs can be effective. Also, at nightclubs, how far are you going? Are you drinking, dancing, touching, kissing? It seems to me that you have to go beyond the simple talking phase to get their return commitment. I assure you it is not impossible.

May I ask your ethnicity? What clothes you wear? I am an American white guy and have never been denied by face control anywhere, but Iceburg is Turkish and he also got into Old School Pub and had a great time.

Well I am European from Holland and have blond hair and blue eyes and I am as white as the Russians. I wear normal casual clothes, like Gant, Tommy, Mc Gregor but not a suit. But I am 47 and maybe they only let young people in. I do drink in bars, kiss, touch, in general you can be bolder in Russia than in Europe since they will kick you out easily. I have picked up some gals from La Kantina before for one night stand so it is not impossible. Just my experience is that if a girl is with 2 friend or something they want to go back together. No matter how much she enjoyed that night with you, the moment she is sober the next morning all is forgotten and that includes you then. I think it also depends on the time of the night, at 9:00 they will probably let you in but at prime time in a popular club in the centre you can forget to get in alone. So the nightlife in Moscow pretty much sucks for me, that's why I mostly focus on internet dating and not on meeting gals in bars since it is almost impossible in Russia. I have travelled to many countries and if you ever come in Asia (Shanghai, Taipei, Seoul, Singapore, Bangkok) the nightlife is so much better, cheaper and the girls nicer and easyer.

I think that speaking Russian makes life a lot easyer and my Rusian level is close to zero which makes it also very difficult to get taxis. But to learn Russian I probably had to quit my job for one or two years to full time study Russian which is not possible.

[YummyPL]

Well I did not need to pay but never found a girl in a bar. They all give their telephone number but next day they never answer or are busy or other excuses not to see you. So if you can not score on the first evening forget about it.

But I did very easy find girls on the RussianCupid site. Just take them for a meal one or two times and they go with you to the hotel. Then of course it becomes a long term relationship until the girls want to get married (usually after 3-6 months) and the story starts again.

I agree using the Web for first meeting is good. I can't pretend to give advice to someone that is there much more than I am, but it seems socializing outside of nightclubs can be effective. Also, at nightclubs, how far are you going? Are you drinking, dancing, touching, kissing? It seems to me that you have to go beyond the simple talking phase to get their return commitment. I assure you it is not impossible.

May I ask your ethnicity? What clothes you wear? I am an American white guy and have never been denied by face control anywhere, but Iceburg is Turkish and he also got into Old School Pub and had a great time.

[Member #2096]

Well I did not need to pay but never found a girl in a bar. They all give their telephone number but next day they never answer or are busy or other excuses not to see you. So if you can not score on the first evening forget about it.

But I did very easy find girls on the RussianCupid site. Just take them for a meal one or two times and they go with you to the hotel. Then of course it becomes a long term relationship until the girls want to get married (usually after 3-6 months) and the story starts again.

[YummyPL]

Well following the advise from this site I went to old school pub around 23:00 this night and I did not get in. In Che I also did not get in. Like I said before the nightlife in Moscow sucks and you better off in Munich or another German City. I found my girlfriend through Russiancupid and this is much better than going to bars. Finally I just went to La Kantina which is always nice. However the drink here also getting more expensive (Rum-cola now 280 Rub which was 180 Rub one year ago.

I have to be here for business but even then it it not that great. I recommend not going to Moscow unless absolutely nessecary for business. For mongering any German city is much better than Moscow. I work 50% of my time in Moscow and the other 50% in Germany so I know what I talk about.

Tiffany

I agree 100%. Germany cannot beat for mongering. Moscow has a different appeal. If you live there 50% of the time there is absolutely no reason for you to ever pay a hooker unless you want to. As Jake said to me when we were having a drink together,"Moscow is filled with under-appreciated 7s." You just need to find them (or have them find you!) and appreciate them.

[Member #2096]

Well following the advise from this site I went to old school pub around 23:00 this night and I did not get in. In Che I also did not get in. Like I said before the nightlife in Moscow sucks and you better off in Munich or another German City. I found my girlfriend through Russiancupid and this is much better than going to bars. Finally I just went to La Kantina which is always nice. However the drink here also getting more expensive (Rum-cola now 280 Rub which was 180 Rub one year ago.

I have to be here for business but even then it it not that great. I recommend not going to Moscow unless absolutely nessecary for business. For mongering any German city is much better than Moscow. I work 50% of my time in Moscow and the other 50% in Germany so I know what I talk about.

Tiffany

[YummyPL]

Yummy,

Can't help but be curious. When you leave the apartment in the morning to go to your "business meeting", how are you dressed?

Depending on my audience but pretty much like a business man.

[Stravinsky]

Yummy,

Can't help but be curious... When you leave the apartment in the morning to go to your "business meeting", how are you dressed?

[YummyPL]

I wake up alone in my bed on Tuesday morning about 10:00. I had hoped that one of the girls would join me overnight but it did not happen. I get out of bed and find that I am the first one awake. I go shower and brush my teeth. At that point I hear the hot water kettle whistling so I go into the kitchen. There I find Kori looking very good in a tank top and panties making breakfast. One of my main priorities in selecting an apartment is that it is warm so that there is no reason for anyone to have extra clothes on, and this apartment is probably about 25-26 degrees so it is pretty perfect. I am assuming that Nadya is still sleeping in her room.

Kori makes no move toward me so I walk up behind her and give her a backrub as she cooks. She responds very favorably but not particularly affectionately. My hands roam her body a bit but I don't go too far. We try to have a conversation but it is very limited because of both of our language limitations. I told her I had a meeting at noon so would head out soon and would be gone the rest of the day but that I expected to be back around maybe 2100 in the evening if she wanted to do something. She basically told me she understood but did not indicate her plans at all except she would be going out.

I have some tea, bread, and cheese-my normal breakfast-and then go into Nadya's room to find her sleeping with just her thong on. I crawl into bed with her and cuddle up behind her. She is warm toward me and holds my arms to her. I tell her my plans for the day as I did with Kori, and she told me she was going to a few museums. I said great and I would see her that evening, give her a kiss, and leave her to sleep.

I had made plans to see Anastasiya for lunch at 14:00 and a new girl Anna for an early dinner. I walk out of the apartment at about 11:15 and head to my usual coffee shop to sit with a cappuccino and use some WiFi away from the girls. At about 12:30 I send an SMS to Anastasiya confirming our lunch. She responds that she can't make it but she hopes I can see her in the evening. I tell her I have a business dinner but that I expected it would end fairly early if she wanted to get together afterward. She agrees "if it is not too late."

I had about 5 hours free before dinner so I decided to go to the Orlov Museum of Paleontology. It was a very good museum but everything is in Russian. I don't think I saw a single sign translated into English.

I confirmed dinner for 18:00 and head out to get to Puskinskaya. I go to the shop on the corner and get my standard first date single rose. I head to the restaurant and get there a few minutes before her. The entrance to the restaurant is down a flight of open stairs with a good view up from the foyer. I get an SMS that said 3 minutes and maybe a minute later I am looking at the stairs and I see her enter. Wow, she looks nice. Probably a few pounds more than my preference (I like really thin girls) but I think that most guys that like brunettes word rate her as an objective "8". Really, very nice.

We sit down for dinner and the restaurant is loud so not so easy to talk. She works as an English teacher so her English is great but she does have a pretty strong (sexy as hell) accent. She tells me she has to leave at 20:30 because she is meeting a private student at 21:00.

We are in the restaurant for maybe 90 minutes. During this time she keeps her distance and is a bit cold. At the end of eating she asks if I wanted to leave to go someplace more quiet. I agree and we walk outside. We walk in the park at Puskinskaya. I don't know how long the lights are up in the trees, but it is really a romantic place to walk with a girl on a winter night. The "Christmas" decorations are really pretty.

We walk a bit as we walk down some slipper steps she holds onto my arm tightly and gets close to me. At the bottom of the steps she loosens up a little and I take her hand and kiss it. She is staying real close to me so I go in to get a real kiss and she responds favorably. It is so funny t me the contrast between different girls. Until this girl pulled close up to me, it didn't seem she was interested at all. So we make out in the cold for maybe 30 minutes with some moderate body contact. This stunningly pretty girl was the best kisser I have had since Diana the previous summer. She really knew how to push mu buttons.

After making out for that time, she said she really had to go so we got her a taxi and I gave her a little taxi fare and she was on her way.

At that point I send an SMS Nadya asking her what she was doing and didn't get a response. I also sent one to Kori and she said she was with a friend and would be home late. I thought, OK, it looks like Anastasiya will work. I really didn't want Anastasiya after being with Anna but I was free so I thought why not. I send her an SMS and she complains about it being too late. I say I will come to her neighborhood to meet her so she didn't have to go far, and she suggested I just come to her place.

When I get to her place, which is just a big bedroom that she rents in an apartment, Anastasiya is looking pretty good. I am not sure if what she is wearing is a slinky little cocktail dress or if it is intended to be just loungewear, but it was silky and very short. At 181cm and 63 kilos, she is not a small girl, but she is wearing it well. As I greeted her I was wondering if she would notice any evidence of my time with Anna, but she seemed a little drunk and oblivious to looking for anything.

The evening progressed perfectly. To make it short, we started kissing almost immediately, I give her a massage, culminating in me eating her and then fucking her. At about 01:00 she said we should go to bed as she needed to get up early. I told her I also needed to get up early and had my stuff back at my apartment. So, we decided that it would be best for me to head home.

When I get back to the apartment at 01:30, both Kori and Nadya are there drinking. I join them and we talk and listen to music for a couple of hours. Still, there is zero apparent competition between the girls and I am trying to not show favoritism. (Kori is the one I want because I haven't had her yet and Nadya was only average in bed.) There is some touching and playing but clothes basically stay on and about 04:00 I head to bed alone and they stay up talking in Russian.

This is Anna. Not my picture but a good look at her.

That concludes Day 4.

[YummyPL]

And, sorry if you covered this earlier and I missed it, but what is your profile? How old are you?

I am 46. I claim to be 42 but I look 46. I am in good shape and almost have my "six-pack" abs back. I will have them by summer. Of curse most girls don't see that unless we are fucking.

[YummyPL]

Yummy, are these girls all freebies? I mean other than wining and dining and paying transport for some?

Are you fucking 19 year olds for free?

And, sorry if you covered this earlier and I missed it, but what is your profile? How old are you?

GT

Yes all of them are "freebies." I have so far fucked four19 year olds and am working on a fifth. I "helped" one with a total of less than $500 USD but she was an incredibly hot sweetheart and we had a total 6 days and nights of fun together. Unfortunately we are currently "broken up" but I hope she will come to her senses and find me again. Other than that it has been the cost of travel and a little party money.

In fact, except for the one, the younger my girls were, the cheaper they have been.

[Gentleman Travel]

I try a little of both English and Russian. I usual greet them in Russian and ask them if they speak English in Russian. And then depending on their skill, I continue the best I can.

From my perspective it is never a waste of time to talk to girls. You can never get enough practice with a cold approach. I have not had a lot of success on the street but almost every girl I have talked to has been friendly. I have never gotten a "fuck off" yet.)

With Anna and my other girl (I will call her "Magic" from now on) I speak English. They both know English pretty well.

Yummy, are these girls all freebies? I mean other than wining and dining and paying transport for some?

Are you fucking 19 year olds for free?

And, sorry if you covered this earlier and I missed it, but what is your profile? How old are you?

GT

[Iceberg27]

Yummy,

This is my style usually. Going and talking to them in the street.

You need some steady nerves to compensate the continous refusal!

By the way what do you think about Night Clubs or Bar's pick up scene?

Did you like old pub? Did you discover any good one?

I also advice the big underground shopping centre. The one including Mcdonalds always crazy busy. (It's the cheapest rest. In Moscow.)

Regards.