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  1. #5313
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    From my perspective it is never a waste of time to talk to girls. You can never get enough practice with a cold approach. I have not had a lot of success on the street but almost every girl I have talked to has been friendly.
    True, the "cold approach" in Russia is much warmer than it is here in the States. Brrrr!

  2. #5312
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsky  [View Original Post]
    Curious to know how that worked out. Are you talking to them in Russian? Looking for girls who speak English? Combination of the two? Any success? Waste of time? Fuck off?

    Again, are you talking to them in Russian? English? Combination of the two? Neither of the above? Are you using your iPad / iPhone translator?
    I try a little of both English and Russian. I usual greet them in Russian and ask them if they speak English in Russian. And then depending on their skill, I continue the best I can.

    From my perspective it is never a waste of time to talk to girls. You can never get enough practice with a cold approach. I have not had a lot of success on the street but almost every girl I have talked to has been friendly. I have never gotten a "fuck off" yet.)

    With Anna and my other girl (I will call her "Magic" from now on) I speak English. They both know English pretty well.

  3. #5311
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I spent the rest of the afternoon walking around the city, I try to talk to a few girls
    Curious to know how that worked out. Are you talking to them in Russian? Looking for girls who speak English? Combination of the two? Any success? Waste of time? Fuck off?

    I also contact Anna and my other A girl and talk to both on the phone for a little while and discuss plans for the week.
    Again, are you talking to them in Russian? English? Combination of the two? Neither of the above? Are you using your iPad / iPhone translator?

  4. #5310

    Moscow Day 3

    Nadya and I wake up together around 10:00. She had her tshirt and thong on and I had my boxers on. Again we had slept basically in each other's arms throughout the night but nothing at all sexual occurred. Nadya stayed in bed a while as I took a shower and sent and SMS to Oksana confirming our lunch plans. I push Nadya out of bed about 11:30 and tell her I am headed to work but I expected to meet her with Kori around 18:00.

    To maintain the façade of 'working' I go to a coffee shop for about 2 hours and have a cappuccino and use the WiFi. I talk to the waitress some trying to practice my Russian but not doing very well. Either I was doing a very bad job with pronunciation or she wasn't interested in hearing me try. At around 14:00 I head to Tsvetnoy Bulvar to meet Oksana for lunch. We ate at a sad little Vietnamese restaurant. Again the 'magic' was not there and I think we both decided that it would be the last time we saw each other. No harm.

    I spent the rest of the afternoon walking around the city, I try to talk to a few girls, and scout out a few nightclubs so I can find them in the dark. I also contact Anna and my other A girl and talk to both on the phone for a little while and discuss plans for the week.

    At about 16:30 Kori sends me an SMS telling me her flight arrived and she is on her way. At around 18:00 I arrive at John Bull Pub and Kori sees me outside and runs over and hugs me. We go inside and order some beer. I ask her if she is hungry and she says no. I send Nadya an SMS to meet us there. We drink beer and Nadya arrives at around 19:00. I was happy to have Nadya arrive as Kori's English was not nearly as good as I remembered. We drink a couple of more and Kori suggests she make us dinner at the apartment. We then head to the supermarket, get some food and head to the apartment.

    At the apartment we eat, drink, smoke, and talk and listen to music. To my disappointment there seems to be ZERO competition between the two girls. Both are friendly, a little affectionate, but not really sexual at all. We got pretty drunk and at some point I tried to kiss Kori. She pulls back from the kiss. I was a bit irritated as I was drunk, I believed that there was an unspoken agreement that we would be sexual partners, and quite honestly, this was the first time in my entire life that I tried to kiss a girl and she drew back from me. I didn't know how to react. I am sure I looked unhappy but I played it real cool.

    In any case, we continued to drink and talk. At the end of the night around 05:00 we went to bed. Neither Kori nor Nadya chose to sleep with me. This is not the direction I wanted the trip to take.

    End of Day 3

  5. #5309
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsky  [View Original Post]
    She likes you, more then she expected, she probably thought to spend the day with you.
    I guess this is possible but based on our previous relationship this seems strange to me. I only told her I was having dinner with a friend and she know I have male friends in Moscow. Also she should know I would be going home to her that night. But what the fuck do I know?

  6. #5308

    My Moscow experience + question.

    Hi guys,

    Luckily I have the opportunity to travel for business and next week I will be in Moscow again, it will be my 5th time!

    In the first 2 visits I had the lick to have a "girlfriend" there, she was the secretary of my customer and she was great, but now she is married and just had a baby, so, I must forget her.

    Actually I'm getting lazy, older, less time, so I just go for pay.

    I have been to the Night Fly 3 times, good experiences, the last one was with a great brunette with long hairs, clean face, small tits but so beautiful! Good time at my hotel, almost 3 hours of everything except anal, such a nice girl! She is around 24 and she was also funny, she kept on confusing Valencia with Venice, her dream was to go to Spain and she mentioned Valencia, but she was actually talking about Venice, as she mentioned gondola and channel. Tried to explain her the mistake. She didn't understand.

    I tried to use rusdosug with bad results, many of the girls do not speak English amd many didn't answer the phone, maybe because of my foreign telephone number?

    This time I will spend one night at the Cosmos hotel, read a lot about it, it should be funny, an experience!

    Than I will stay at the Golden Ring hotel, it should be girl friendly (can someone confirm?)

    My question is: is there any place similar to the Night Fly but a little cheaper? There they start asking 500$ for the night, you can go down to 350$ if you insist, but never had anything for less.

    About Saloon, do you know any of them where you can go without speaking Russian? I only know the and niet in their language.

    After my visit I will report my experience!

    Thanks for your help my friends!

  7. #5307
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    We don't really talk about the night before and she is making no attempt to be affectionate toward me. I am quite surprised by this but who the fuck knows the psychology of a Russian girl.
    She likes you, more then she expected, she probably thought to spend the day with you, but you obviously have plans to spend it with another woman, therefore she resents you and hates herself for liking you. It's all very simple, really.

    We go to the restaurant and she is impressed and happy. When we are there she asks if we can order a bottle of wine. I am a bit irritated as wine is stupid expensive in Moscow
    This is just a little test. She wants to know; a) do you have money to spend? and, b) will you spend it on her?

    I choose a relatively inexpensive wine from the list that happened to cost around 4000 rubles.
    I hope it was at least a California wine!


    I keep telling myself I am going to get good sex from this girl.
    Yes, but did you tell her that?

  8. #5306

    Moscow Day 2

    Nadya and I wake up around 13:00. We had spent most of the night sleeping close in each other's arms. I get up to make coffee, and I send a SMS to Anastasiya telling her I arrived in Moscow that morning and confirming our date for the evening. She replies and we arrange to meet at 19:30 near Smolenskaya.

    Nadya and I eat some breakfast in the apartment, get cleaned up, and dressed. We don't really talk about the night before and she is making no attempt to be affectionate toward me. I am quite surprised by this but who the fuck knows the psychology of a Russian girl. She tells me she wants to go to a Museum and she does a little research. I told her I had a dinner planned with a friend but that I would walk with her somewhere if she wanted me to. She decides she wants to go to the Tretyakov gallery and I tell her I know the way and I will walk her there and show her some stuff on the way, then I would return to the apartment while she looked at the gallery and I would see her later that night.

    So we walk and I show her some sculptures and historic buildings along the way. I drop her off at Tretyakov and head to the metro. I make my way back to the apartment and start to get ready. I call the 'white Rabbit' and make reservations for 20:00. I get dressed in slacks, sport coat, and my signature socks with nice shoes.

    Anastasiya and I meet right on time at Smolenskaya Passage and we walk to the restaurant. She looks good and is dressed to kill but she is bigger than I had hoped for. Not fat at all, but 5'11' and thin but not very thin. But she looks good and from the very start she is close to me and flirtatious. We go to the restaurant and she is impressed and happy. When we are there she asks if we can order a bottle of wine. I am a bit irritated as wine is stupid expensive in Moscow, but it was a nice restaurant and I was confident she was going to fuck me, so I say 'of course. ' I choose a relatively inexpensive wine from the list that happened to cost around 4000 rubles. I keep telling myself I am going to get good sex from this girl.

    We had a good night. There was lots of touching and kissing. But around midnight she said it is getting late and she needed to get up for work in the morning. Always keeping in mind in the back of my head that Nadya would be back at the apartment if we went back there, I asked her if she wanted to go back to my place to stay the night. She said she would go but she could only stay a few minutes. This was enough for me to confirm she was willing to have sex with me, so I backed off a little and talked about being jet-lagged myself and maybe we should wait until she was prepared to stay the night. She readily and seemingly genuinely agreed. I expected to return to the apartment and drink a little more with Nadya and fuck her again.

    So I put Anastasiya in a taxi and walk toward my apartment. I get there probably a little after 01:00 and Nadya is there drinking. I pour us both a drink, hers stronger than mine, and we start to talk. We talk for several hours about relationships, sex and music. We talk about my ex-lover and her ex-fiancé. We are close and friendly but it does not get sexual. I give her a back rub but we do not transition to a full-body rub. Finally we sleep together but it was only sleep. There was no move toward sex from her and I respected her by keeping my sexual advances to a minimum. I had no idea what was going on in her head but she is more of a friend than a lover so it was no problem.

    So that is the end of Day 2. A little disappointing but not a bad night. Its not like I often am so close to a 26 year old and a 19 year old both on the same night back at home.

    This picture is of Anastasiya. I didn't take it and it isn't great but it gives you a decent idea. This is the one Jake met.

    Iceberg is correct I use airbnb for my apartments. This time I flew into Sheremetyevo but I have also flown into Domodedovo.
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  9. #5305
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravinsky  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry Yummy, I Believe in you. .

    Pay no nevermind to the skeptics. Your skeptics are guys who a) have never been to Russia or Moscow and therefore don't know what they're talking about, or be) have visited Russia or Moscow, but were too lazy or too stupid to take advantage of an opportunity when it slapped them in the face. Those of us who know Moscow know that your experience is pretty much just SOP.

    It might help to talk a little bit about all the time and effort you put into planning one of your trips. No need to divulge specific websites, just total number of girls contacted, how many responded, how many got onto the short list and how many finally showed up. Once they understand the amount of effort you put into planning one of your trips, that should shutup most of your skeptics pretty quick.

    BTW. What airport did you arrive at? Also, which apartment rental agency do you like to use?
    Strav,

    He is using Airbnb and also I am with advice of him. I had used it and agent called Yaroslav bullsheeted to me at the end but it's still a good service to use. Cheap and reliable.

    You also read his previous posts.)

    Regards.

  10. #5304
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I only make this comment as it seems there are many skeptics out there that don't think any of this is possible.
    Don't worry Yummy, I believe in you.

    Pay no nevermind to the skeptics. Your skeptics are guys who a) have never been to Russia or Moscow and therefore don't know what they're talking about, or b) have visited Russia or Moscow, but were too lazy or too stupid to take advantage of an opportunity when it slapped them in the face. Those of us who know Moscow know that your experience is pretty much just SOP.

    It might help to talk a little bit about all the time and effort you put into planning one of your trips. No need to divulge specific websites, just total number of girls contacted, how many responded, how many got onto the short list and how many finally showed up. Once they understand the amount of effort you put into planning one of your trips, that should shutup most of your skeptics pretty quick.


    BTW - What airport did you arrive at? Also, which apartment rental agency do you like to use?

  11. #5303
    Quote Originally Posted by Skwiskwis  [View Original Post]
    The interpersonal issues are great, but, what's the total price (drinks included)?
    Hi Skwiskwis, I will do a full breakdown of my costs at the end of my report. Yes I did pay for plane tickets (about $160 USD) and gave her about $100 USD spending money. More on costs later.

  12. #5302

    Questions

    Glad to read these posts.

    At the risk of being too pragmatic, my questions are all financial: who paid for the plane ticket and how much was it, and has Nadya been promised any (other?) financial incentives to get her to Moscow? I always like to try and have a ballpark figure on the total cost of the meetings chronicled here, either to compare with my own efforts or to get an idea what the cost might be if I went somewhere I've never been before.

    The interpersonal issues are great, but, what's the total price (drinks included)?

    [QUOTE=YummyPL; 1535588]This is report of Day 1. This is my 5th trip to Moscow in under a year as a simple sex tourist.

    I arrived in Moscow at 0530 on Saturday 8 Feb. I get through all the airport stuff, take aeroexpress into the city, and take the metro to Smolenskaya, and walk to my apartment. If you have luggage I suggest you take a taxi but at 0730 on a Saturday morning the metro was dead. I arrive at my apartment after 8 AM and settle in for a few hours sleep. I woke up around 1 PM, sent Oksana an SMS confirming our date for the first night, and do some errands. I went grocery shopping, got beverages, and slippers. At around 5 I am back in my apartment getting ready for the night."

  13. #5301
    This is report of Day 1. This is my 5th trip to Moscow in under a year as a simple sex tourist.

    I arrived in Moscow at 0530 on Saturday 8 Feb. I get through all the airport stuff, take aeroexpress into the city, and take the metro to Smolenskaya, and walk to my apartment. If you have luggage I suggest you take a taxi but at 0730 on a Saturday morning the metro was dead. I arrive at my apartment after 8 AM and settle in for a few hours sleep. I woke up around 1 PM, sent Oksana an SMS confirming our date for the first night, and do some errands. I went grocery shopping, got beverages, and slippers. At around 5 I am back in my apartment getting ready for the night.

    I get dressed, walk to the metro, and take a quick ride to Mayakovskaya. After 5 trips, I am getting really good at using the metro. I meet Oksana at a German style place called Bavarius. She is into Germany so I thought she might like it. When Oksana and I met at 19:30, I was a little disappointed. She was attractive and had a nice tight body, but just not really my type. We had great communication before I got to Moscow but the 'magic' just wasn't there.

    After dinner, we walked up to Belaruskaya as I wanted to take her to a place Jake introduced me to. I couldn't find the place and ended up at a place called La Bottega. I sent an SMS to Jake to see if he was around and to ask about the place I was looking for. Funny as hell, he told me he had been in La Bottega maybe 30 minutes before I got there. It is a nice place, very quiet, and reasonably priced, but it was dead at midnight on a Satuday night so I doubt if it is a place to go to look for women. It was, however, a good place to talk to Oksana.

    At around 23:30 I got an SMS from Nadya saying she had arrived at the airport and was headed for the train. At around 01:00 I was still talking to Oksana but our conversation was drying up. About that time she suggested she should go home because she had lots to do the next day, I was all for it. I had thought I would be with herr late and have to leave Nadya waiting for me, but this was good timing as I was quite sure I would have a nice time with Nadya.

    I put Oksana in a taxi and got my own and headed to Smolenskaya to meet Nadya at John Bull Pub. It is a nice 'irish pub' style place. I got there and looked around and she was not there. It was around 01:30 so she should have made it from the airport. I sent her an SMS but didn't get a response right away. While I was looking around, I did notice some attractive women of around 40 giving me the eye. I would have practiced my cold approach had I not been a bit concerned about Nadya. I called her and there was no answer. I sat near the bar where I could see everyone entering the place and just before 02:00 Nadya walked in.

    It turns out that her phone was out of Money and, because I had told her I would likely be late meeting herr, she had decided too walk from Belaruskaya to Smolenskaya. It is about 4 kilometers so not bad, but she did have me worried.

    When I arranged to meet Nadya at John Bull Pub, I had assumed it was open basically all night. When I got there the place was basically pretty full. But it turns out that it closes at 02:00 so it was real lucky that Nadya made it on time or things could have turned out to be much more complicated. I would have drank with her for a while there, but because it was closing, I asked her if she just wanted to go back to the apartment and drink there. As she and I had done almost all of our drinking together previously in my apartments and she was staying with me this time, I thought this was reasonable. She readily agreed.

    We get back to my place. We put herr stuff away, poured some drinks and started to talk about some relationship issues that we have been having with our respective lovers. We drank maybe 10 or so drinks and I started rubbing her shoulders which she responded to very nicely. I asked her if she wanted a real massage and she said yes. I picked her up and carried her to the bedroom which she responded to very well. I laid some towels on the bed, undressed her except for her thong, had her lay on her front, used some baby oil and gave her a nice massage. She later said it was the best she ever had. About 30 minutes into the massage I was at her thong and went to remove it. She gave no protest and it was great rubbing her from neck to feet including her very yummy looking ass.

    I eventually turn her over. Her body looks very nice (her face is very 'average' at best by my standard) laying there and I start giving her a front massage. Her breasts then stomach and thighs and then to her pussy. From there we transition pretty quickly to sex. It was funny, up until the point I started stroking her pussy, in the 6 nights I had hung out and drank with her (almost all of that when I was with Katya) and all the way up to this point we had not had a single kiss—not even a light, friendly one. But when I started stroking her she turned into a kissing fiend. In any case, we fucked for more than an hour in multiple positions and the question of condoms never came up at all. I had told her back in October I could not have kids but she was drunk out of her mind then so I am not sure if she remembered it or not but she didn't even hint at concern with me cumming inside her. When I was exhausted around 6 AM I would guess, we went to sleep.

    I have attached 2 pictures. They are not very good and do very little to show off Nadya's actually very nice, tight 19 year old body. You will notice that I make an effort to take pictures with either the girl or me in one of 2 tshirts so that skeptics can see that I am actually with these different girls in my apartment and elsewhere. I don't share (and rarely take) sexual pictures, so I guess you will just have to trust that if a girl is in my apartment and wearing my tshirt, she probably actually had sex with me. I only make this comment as it seems there are many skeptics out there that don't think any of this is possible.

    That was end of Day 1 in Moscow. More reports to follow. I am open to any questions.
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  14. #5300
    Quote Originally Posted by Gergiev  [View Original Post]
    .

    Then the obverse could be something like 'subnominal'?

    But anyway, we digress.
    Conson to every word. Unisenting.)

  15. #5299

    Neknominal

    Quote Originally Posted by Roll Buzz  [View Original Post]
    I like to think that there is an intended pun behind this word, because you know, there is "phenomenal" and ther is "proverbial" (from pro-verba) , and if you think, there should be "pronominal", from pro-nomus. Heh heh, I am no Noam Chomsky, but I should start my special course of exegese
    Me too, RB.

    Then the obverse could be something like 'subnominal'?

    But anyway, we digress...

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