Moscow

[Aaragon1977]

Sorry Aaragon1977, the person that shared it with me asked me not to share it with the general population. I have shared it with a long-time contributor and truly helpful poster, but you have not achieved that status yet.

I don't have any plans to visit Russia in the near future unless my company decides to acquire a company, I was just curious. Anyway, I don't see an issue with sharing the URL of a website unless ofcourse signing up on the website guarantee's girls waiting to pick you up at the airport.

Thanks again for the reports.

[EastGoing]

No worries, just speak international language. I can speak a bit of rubles, euros, gryvnias, crowns, dollars, leis, zlotys, etc. ; P

[Iceberg27]

Sorry Aaragon1977, the person that shared it with me asked me not to share it with the general population. I have shared it with a long-time contributor and truly helpful poster, but you have not achieved that status yet.

I was already curious about that and appreciate your reason not to share Yummy.

But you other guys what you think about this issue.

I have been in Russia and Ukraine and I think it's very useful to have some contacts before you arrive.

At least you can catch someone who can speak english. Better than asking every girl in a night club (Do you speak english? Do you understand me?) I have tried mamba last week but not so effective. Do you have any advice on dating websites? I am planning to make a second visit to Moscow. I was using RussianEuro. Not so bad but I am sure there are better ones. And another question. What is the best approach method you think? Telling her that you are local there or tell that looking for a wife that you will bring outside of country? Thanks for your contributions in advance. BR

[Navoti]

Ok I need some more specific advice regarding options in Moscow. In particular salons or massage places or apartment girls. I have a very limited schedule but will be in Moscow 9 days. I will be free starting 11pm until 10am each night (sex kitten has me occupied with cock worship sessions during the day. Got to love these Russian girls). I'll be staying in Avtozovodskaya so I'm looking for a local spot to sample some of Moscow's offerings. A warm up for my layover in Frankfurt. So anyone know of any options easy to get to or close by my area where I don't need to know Russian (I know I'm asking a lot here). I know there is G Club (strip club) easy walking distance not sure if girls here will "date", There is at least 1 Salon in Avtozovodskaya but I can't seem to find any good info on it. In call is probably not a good idea. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

By the way for any guys looking to date Russian women I can't emphasize enough how much you need to be alpha and be in control with these girls while still being a gentleman after you have established a romantic connection. These women love to be dominated gently and passionately. When they respect your authority then you will be rewarded with total devotion. Be up front about what you want, be fearless (unless confronted by drunk Russian guys) , and let them know exactly what you expect from them. Do not be afraid of being demanding. Most American men don't know how to do this very well but it's a great lesson for American women also, they truly aren't that different. Be fearless, don't apologize for who you are, have high expectations and express them clearly. Most women love a challenge.

[YummyPL]

Thanks for the detailed post, Can you please let us know the same of the website you used to line up the dates?

Sorry Aaragon1977, the person that shared it with me asked me not to share it with the general population. I have shared it with a long-time contributor and truly helpful poster, but you have not achieved that status yet.

[James Bond 007]

Swiss Hotel is a very nice hotel. Rooms are expensive and so are the girls. Unfortunately, the location of the Swiss Hotel makes it difficult for you to enjoy the more affordable places. IMHO you have two options.

1. Call in from a web site. This can be good but it CAN be bad if you do not get what you want. The other thing to do is go down to the lobby and have a word with the bell man out from the revolving door. Not INSIDE the hotel but just outside beyond the revolving door. These guys know how to get girls and you will be safe. And they probably speak enough English to get you what you want.

2. Make a reservation at Night flight for 9:30 PM, have dinner and then go downstairs and select a girl that you like. I suggest this for a few good reasons. You are a newby to Moscow and don't speak the language. If you find a girl from NF you can easily get a taxi from out front to take you to Swiss Hotel. MOST of the girls from NF will not rip you off for fear of getting barred entry. The girls are pricey but not NEARLY as expensive as the Swiss Hotel. As a new comer to Moscow, this is NOT the time to explore bargains. Sure it will cost you $70 for dinner, $50 for drinks in the cabaret and probably $500 for the girl including taxi. But you can choose what you want and no surprises.

Have fun.

Jake

I know this is an older post, but are the rates for Night Flight still accurate? I assume these are US$ that Jake is referring to. From other posts here, other clubs like Aurora 911 has hourly prices starting at 12, 000 rubles, so are the NF prices similar Aurora 911?

[Aaragon1977]

What website did you use?

Thanks for the detailed post, Can you please let us know the same of the website you used to line up the dates?

[Jake993]

I loled. If only they could understand the treasures they have. Sales representative are generally chosen from good looking guys and girls. But the company I visited in Russia had gorgeous girls whom should be considered gorgeous by any standard but they were considered average there.

I will be visiting Moscow again next week. I'm trying to find some women through rusdosug. I wish I had the time to go to some bars.

I'll be staying at tulskaya azimut hotel. Last time I was in Moscow it was cold and we couldn't get out of the hotel. This time I might be able to walk around late at night. Is it safe to go around in Tulskaya? My only other alternative right now is to call an escort and enjoy time with whoever shows up in front door.

Tulskaya is not bad. The nightlife is not terrible in that area. Don't laugh, but you may want to check out the 3rd level of the Eravan Plaza Shopping Mall. There are a few restaurants there (TGI Friday's, Itazh, etc) where some fairly hot chicks hang out at night.

[Jake993]

there is one thing more amusing a drunk (and otherwise good looking in russia) russian guy in a expat russian club in the west, with his man bag, crying his eyes out because he can't get a girl in the west. western girls find russian men unattractive and once here they have no chance with russian girls. as one of my exes said when i asked her why she never went to any russian expat clubs. she said they were just full of desperate russian guys. i couldn't argue.

wow. i am speechless. i never really though about that but that makes total sense. question: how do russian speaking western guys do with russian girls in expat clubs in the west? that's probably a rhetorical question because once russian girls get to the west they probably become quickly un-datable.

[Stravinsky]

OK, I am headed back to Moscow in a few weeks. Should I branch out or stick with my "freebies"?

Yummy,

Why not do both? If your current Russian girlfriends are comfortable with the understanding that the relationship is not exclusive, then why not take off and branch out. I'm sure Jake will be happy to point you in the direction of some fertile hunting grounds.

The only problem will be if that iPad translator thingamajiggey craps out on you at a crucial moment, you will have to think fast on your feet. Based on your recent experience, I shouldn't think that would be a problem for you.

[Stravinsky]

You will note I said club not nightclub.

OK, I understand, you're talking about a social club--a group of friends or acquaintances with a common ethnic or cultural background who get together and organize social or cultural events. Nothing indicative of the general experience of Russian expats or immigrants and certainly nothing akin to the many public watering holes in Moscow where expats hang out.

[Jonners]

Well here's a novel concept. A Russian expat club! Didn't know such things existed. Where would I find something like this?

I've been to Brighton Beach several times and never saw anything like a Russian expat club. :P

Strav. I shall take you comment above at face value and ignore potential sarcasm. You will note I said club not nightclub. Just like any expat club in any major city in the world the Russian expat clubs are there for expats and the majority of people have no intention of settling in the country they live in. I think Brighton beach is mainly full of immigrants so maybe they arent needed. The clubs organise cultural evenings ie if the bolshoi is touring, networking events, dinners and social events and of course trips to bars. I personally find them very useful to practise my Russian so I don't forget it when I'm not there. Anyway not really much to do with Moscow or girls so if anyone does want more info PM me.

[Stravinsky]

There is one thing more amusing a drunk (and otherwise good looking in Russia) Russian guy in a expat Russian club in the west, with his man bag, crying his eyes out because he can't get a girl in the west. Western girls find Russian men unattractive and once here they have no chance with Russian girls. As one of my exes said when I asked her why she never went to any Russian expat clubs. She said they were just full of desperate Russian guys. I couldn't argue.

Well here's a novel concept. A Russian expat club! Didn't know such things existed. Where would I find something like this?

I've been to Brighton Beach several times and never saw anything like a Russian expat club. :P

[YummyPL]

OK, I am headed back to Moscow in a few weeks. Should I branch out or stick with my "freebies"? Any special investigation requests from my friends here?

Anyone in Moscow interested in going out? I should be there around 26 July.

[WanderTheWorld]

There is one thing more amusing a drunk (and otherwise good looking in Russia) Russian guy in a expat Russian club in the west, with his man bag, crying his eyes out because he can't get a girl in the west. Western girls find Russian men unattractive and once here they have no chance with Russian girls. As one of my exes said when I asked her why she never went to any Russian expat clubs. She said they were just full of desperate Russian guys. I couldn't argue.

I loled. If only they could understand the treasures they have. Sales representative are generally chosen from good looking guys and girls. But the company I visited in Russia had gorgeous girls whom should be considered gorgeous by any standard but they were considered average there.

I will be visiting Moscow again next week. I'm trying to find some women through rusdosug. I wish I had the time to go to some bars.

I'll be staying at tulskaya azimut hotel. Last time I was in Moscow it was cold and we couldn't get out of the hotel. This time I might be able to walk around late at night. Is it safe to go around in Tulskaya? My only other alternative right now is to call an escort and enjoy time with whoever shows up in front door.