Moscow

[Jake993]

Http://www.rusdosug.com/

Some ads are $100 per hour. Scam or?

Good question. And no, it's not a scam at all. However, for $100 a hour this girls probably won't speak any more English than "hello, how are you"?

And with these (seemingly) bargain girls, look at the list of things they are willing to do (CIM, Oral w / o, Anal, etc) the repertoire is often limited. And don't for get the age. Girls who are 18. 23 command a nice price. Once they get over 25, you can see the prices erode quickly unless they have something special to offer. For example, in addition to the usual Africans (no offense to the brothers and sisters of course) who show up on the first page, there are a handful who make it to the top of the front page. This is no accident. These girls PAY to get their profile near the top. And while their prices are significantly higher and they are often (but not always) over 24 years old, these girls offer the full range and speak good (if not excellent English). And I can tell your from personal experience that these girls are VERY good performers. Excellent GFE and technique too. So you are paying for a pro who could EASILY be working in a top agency but prefers the independence that.

www.rusdosug.com

Offers.

But I digress. The $100 per hours girls are hit or miss. If I am to the point where I need "professional help" I usually hit a salon, pay $150 and choose what suits my fancy that night. I have heard from other guys that these $100 girls can also be very good if they are new to Moscow (from the provinces or other CIS countries). But once they get established, the price goes up.

Hope this helps,

Jake

[FruitNinja]

Opinions / Answers.

1. It seems that most hotels these days are girl friendly. Especially in the center and especially if they are from a Western Chain (Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, etc). It's really all about location.

2. ST in salons. 4,500 rubles ($150) per hour. Escorts girls $200. $380 for 2 hours. Overnight $400 to $800 depending on quality etc.

3. Dating sites are tricky because it appears that they are being dominated by pros and semi pros. If you date a girls from.

www.mamba.ru

You should expect to end up parting with cash one way or the other. TheTanuki had great success with a Mamba girl and for his week in Moscow but parted with some serious cash in terms of gifts, dinners etc. Again, nothing wrong with that as long as you know what you are getting yourself into.

www.okcupid.com

Seems good but it's more of a commitment on your part. More of a serious dating site oriented towards relationships. If you are looking for a tour guide, Google Moscow Tour Guide and you will find plenty of nice looking girls to show you around. Might even lead to sex. Who knows.

4.

www.rusdosug.com

Is pretty reliable for escort girls.

General Opinion. You need to better define what your objective is. If you are only on Moscow for a week, then unless you have some serious GAME, you can pretty much forget picking up girls in clubs and screwing them on the first night. The odds are agains you. For that you need a little bit of time. At least 2 dates after initial meet up, maximum 3. If you are after sex in a strip club, can't go wrong with The Loft, Penthouse Club, Aurora or Korston. If you want a salon session. The old standby's are Charm'El, Fantasys, and Atel.

Good luck!

Http://www.rusdosug.com/

Some ads are $100 per hour. Scam or?

[Jake993]

Hi Mates.

Crude way to start.

I know that I would have done RTTF and gathered some info, but quite occupied, So unable to spend much time on pages.

Would request some help here from Seniors.

1) As first timer, Need help to decide on good GF Hotel

2) Typical rates for ST and LT and best way to pickup girls here. Any clubs / cafes to pickup free-bie.

3) Popular Datings sites (I do not know russina, Only English) to meet local girls who can help see site-seeing etc if no sex. Thats fine with me.

4) Will be great if someone willing to share his contacts / touch connections.

Any punter heading to India, I can extend help here. Ping me anytime.

Cheers.

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Opinions / Answers.

1. It seems that most hotels these days are girl friendly. Especially in the center and especially if they are from a Western Chain (Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, etc). It's really all about location.

2. ST in salons. 4,500 rubles ($150) per hour. Escorts girls $200. $380 for 2 hours. Overnight $400 to $800 depending on quality etc.

3. Dating sites are tricky because it appears that they are being dominated by pros and semi pros. If you date a girls from.

www.mamba.ru

You should expect to end up parting with cash one way or the other. TheTanuki had great success with a Mamba girl and for his week in Moscow but parted with some serious cash in terms of gifts, dinners etc. Again, nothing wrong with that as long as you know what you are getting yourself into.

www.okcupid.com

Seems good but it's more of a commitment on your part. More of a serious dating site oriented towards relationships. If you are looking for a tour guide, Google Moscow Tour Guide and you will find plenty of nice looking girls to show you around. Might even lead to sex. Who knows.

4.

www.rusdosug.com

Is pretty reliable for escort girls.

General Opinion. You need to better define what your objective is. If you are only on Moscow for a week, then unless you have some serious GAME, you can pretty much forget picking up girls in clubs and screwing them on the first night. The odds are agains you. For that you need a little bit of time. At least 2 dates after initial meet up, maximum 3. If you are after sex in a strip club, can't go wrong with The Loft, Penthouse Club, Aurora or Korston. If you want a salon session. The old standby's are Charm'El, Fantasys, and Atel.

Good luck!

[Zamziv]

A friend told me about the place. With not too much thinking I went ther.

Enterence fee 1000 soda 160 and a shot of local vodka 220 (you will never get change back)

It's a top strip club.

So many stunners

Private dance 1000 and one hour in the back room with your choice 12000.

No doubt. Top place.

It just across the street of Crown Plaza World Trade Center.

[Zamziv]

There are a lot of stunners in Warsaw and half cost comparing to Moscow.

Bold truths that I can not argue.

Keep in mind the culture is different in Poland as opposed to Russia or Ukraine. If you are older, it will be harder to score the young ones.

[Jake Ripley]

Visited an old haunt of mine in Moscow last night. I keep hearing about Aurora, The Loft, and the Penthouse Club, but if you're looking for a good time you should also check out Shandra. Went in last night around 11 pm and was one of only about 3 guys in the place. I was told by several of the girls that it doesn't really start getting busy until after midnight. In any case, I got a few dances to sample the goods and ended up going to the backroom with "Christina" a tall, leggy brunette with fantastic natural tits and a Russian ass to die for. The room costs 2, 700 rubles and then another 7, 000 rubles for the girl for an hour of sex. And the sex was awesome. BBBJ, and then on with the condom for cowgirl and fantastic doggy. She was so into it, I was amazed, asking me to spank her and pull her hair. Well, well, worth the stop. Here's a link to the club and a map of the location. A little Russian goes a long way, but some girls will be able to speak pretty good English. Enjoy.

http://shandra.su/

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&s...TF-8&q=shandra

+moscow&fb=1&hq=shandra&hnear=0x46b54afc73d4b0c9:0x3d44d6cc5757cf4c, Moscow, +Russia&cid=0, 0.598057856881115979&ei=SxzOT4flEcOn4gSb2dyxDA&oi=local_result&ved=0CA0Q_BIwAw

[Climaxnow]

I am visting Kiev and then Moscow. I love the almond eyed slavic girls, but have been advised by some old hands as follows:

1. Money is everything. Nothing subtle here. No money or gifts means in her eyes you are a loser and to be jettisoned ASAP.

2. More than one night at your aparatment and bags appear. These girls have a limited shelf life and are on on a mission to bag a well off male. They move in for the kill fast. Apparently they have been told that deep, soft blowjobs turn the male mind to putty (this part is 100% true, that's why we are on this board) and will make us pliable to their agenda. One rumor is that the KGB developed secret methods of blow jobs during the cold war and it has circulated to Russian women who have perfected it to the point that men go insane from pleasure if administered more than three times a day.

3. Forget about women's lib. They want macho males firmly in control.

That's about all I know, and possibly bollocks. Maybe I am stretching it bit. All I want is under 23, almond eyed beauty that uses the BJ: how much to pay for a pretty young thing?

Bold truths that I can not argue.

Others say Poland is the way to go, but the almond eye thing seems uniquely Russian by Eastern genes from ancient invasions etc.

Let me know

Keep in mind the culture is different in Poland as opposed to Russia or Ukraine. If you are older, it will be harder to score the young ones.

[The Tanuki]

1. Money is everything. Nothing subtle here. No money or gifts means in her eyes you are a loser and to be jettisoned ASAP.

2. More than one night at your aparatment and bags appear. These girls have a limited shelf life and are on on a mission to bag a well off male. They move in for the kill fast.

3. Forget about women's lib. They want macho males firmly in control.

Um, did you create your name in a hurry and happen to misspell 'phallus' by any chance? Hehe.

Having read through a number of threads here, spent an evening drinking / chatting with Jake, and also shagging my brains out with a local woman I met in Moscow, I'd say #1 and #3 are absolutely spot on. It's a man's world and the woman's role is to have us run everything and pay for anything along the way. Weakness is not condoned. Our prize for being a solid man is what I believe to be the best sex on the planet.

#2 is an interesting notion. Granted, in my case I was in a hotel and I did give my lady the extra key, but she never showed up unannounced. She did happen to leave a few things in the room. One was a pair of thong panties that seemed to disappear in the room, to be left by the cleaning ladies on the table later in the day. Another was a toothbrush. Well, it's starting to get close to a suitcase isn't it? Jake also mentioned that since my lady knows folks at a certain club we frequented, that she would've been showing me off to those folks. She's not a 20-something, so I think he made a good point that she showed she could still pull in a guy. And she's patiently waiting there for me to either return or get her a business-class flight to me. So your points may be applicable to my situation all the way around.

For your case, though, I don't know if WG's will fit the bill on this. There are so many really awesome freebies around Moscow that I lost interest in WG's myself. It depends on what your goals are. Quickies of course would be the realm of the pro's, but if you want something better (as in more than a session) , invest your time in other directions and find a civilian. Be prepared to spend a lot and enjoy it.

These rantings are the product of my admittedly brief (almost 3 weeks) foray into the amazing world of Moscow's women. I don't mean to speak for the true vets of the city.

The Tanuki

[Pahllus Maximus]

I am visting Kiev and then Moscow. I love the almond eyed slavic girls, but have been advised by some old hands as follows:

1. Money is everything. Nothing subtle here. No money or gifts means in her eyes you are a loser and to be jettisoned ASAP.

2. More than one night at your aparatment and bags appear. These girls have a limited shelf life and are on on a mission to bag a well off male. They move in for the kill fast. Apparently they have been told that deep, soft blowjobs turn the male mind to putty (this part is 100% true, that's why we are on this board) and will make us pliable to their agenda. One rumor is that the KGB developed secret methods of blow jobs during the cold war and it has circulated to Russian women who have perfected it to the point that men go insane from pleasure if administered more than three times a day.

3. Forget about women's lib. They want macho males firmly in control.

That's about all I know, and possibly bollocks. Maybe I am stretching it bit. All I want is under 23, almond eyed beauty that uses the BJ: how much to pay for a pretty young thing?

Others say Poland is the way to go, but the almond eye thing seems uniquely Russian by Eastern genes from ancient invasions etc.

Let me know

[Mattador]

Avoid the place.

For several reasons :

1. It is overly advertised, and overly priced with 3000 rubles entrance fee and drinks running around the same high rate (350+ for soft drinks and beer)

2. Number and quality of girls are not at a level to compete with clubs in the same range like 911. Read as : less girls, and no real stunners.

3. The promotion thing. 3 for 1 doesn't work. The girl that I took for private dance danced for another 20 seconds after the 2nd song and insisted the promotion was for 2 songs only and asked for extra payment. I had no chance to stop her and leave. I took the matter to the manager, but it was already marked as 4 songs in their book. They insisted I pay.

I paid and left.

It migth still be a choice for a night out if you don't care how much you spend.

Girls are flirty enough to join you while you are enjoying your drink, and there is no push for "buy me a drink". The best ones were occupied though at the tables. The menu read : "keep the girl you like off the stage for 6000 rubles per hour". Apparently some people were paying that amount for multiple girls at a time. Among the 15 or so girls, there was only one drop-dead-georgeus girl who was contantly busy serving drinks at a table and not dancing at all.

[SV420]

I am interested in real massage by a hot girl and later followed by happy ending or sex is better. I am staying in Moscow. I called couple girls from rusdosug and still looking. Any recommendation? Are these girls real? Has any one tried Sandi?

Thanks guys

[Naykan]

Naykan,

Yes absolutely.

Two categories.

Strip clubs and salons.

The 3 most popular Strip Clubs for this purpose are;

Penthouse Club.

Aurora911.

The Loft.

In my opinion the 3 best salons are;

http://www.fantasys.org

http://www.charmel.biz/

www.atell.ru

And all three are in the center of Moscow.

Have fun!

Thank you very much.

[Jake993]

Jake93,

I will be visiting Moscow soon but I want to have sex in the club not in my hotel.

Are there any clubs like this?

If yes, which one is the best?

Thanks in advance.

Naykan

Naykan,

Yes absolutely.

Two categories.

Strip clubs and salons.

The 3 most popular Strip Clubs for this purpose are;

Penthouse Club.

Aurora911.

The Loft.

In my opinion the 3 best salons are;

http://www.fantasys.org

http://www.charmel.biz/

www.atell.ru

And all three are in the center of Moscow.

Have fun!

[Jake993]

Hi there, Jake. I am more with Strav. NF has seen much better times. However, food is great, and it is always a good place to have a couple of drinks and a few laughs with some wingman. Something like window-shopping without actually shopping. Before you decide to go to some normal club to hunt for freebies. (yes, I know, I know. Not everybody has the time, energy, age or talent for the game. And I respect that).

Spanish Fly,

The problem with email and online communication is that it's easy for us to get the wrong impression about what is being communicated. I completely agree with you and Strav about NF. It's nowhere NEAR the place it was 10 years ago and no, a 28 year old single Mom would NEVER have made it into NF back in the day. And yes, the girls today are a LOT less "fresh" that they once were. All of that I have no issue with. My only real point was the fact that Strav is discouraging a Moscow first timer from visiting Night Flight. I am of the opinion that for a Moscow first time visiting monger it's still a great place to start the evening. As for pulling girls out of there, I am with you guys. Those girls are way past the "sell by" date. And those who DO still look good have a longer list of what they WON'T do that what they WILL do.

Anyhow, we're all on the same page here. Apologies to Strav if I was a bit too hash. Sorry mate, I am getting cranky in my old age.

Happy hunting everyone.

[Zamziv]

My last visit to Moscow. A month ago.

I am always looking at the craiglist and from time to time I manage to find a sweetpie. Never for free.