Moscow

[Spanish Fly]

Strav,

When were you at Night Flight last?

With all due respect you are talking out of your ASS!

Hi there, Jake. Although I don't live permanently in Moscow, I happen to spend a significant time there almost every month. I have been myself in NF around 8 or maybe 10 times in the last year, last time somewhere in April. There is always some new guy / colleague in Moscow who is too lazy for hunting, and want to have a good look of this rather famous place.

In my humble opinion, I am more with Strav. NF has seen much better times. However, food is great, and it is always a good place to have a couple of drinks and a few laughs with some wingman. Something like window-shopping without actually shopping. Before you decide to go to some normal club to hunt for freebies. (yes, I know, I know. Not everybody has the time, energy, age or talent for the game. And I respect that).

However, the best part in NF is that 99% of the girls speak quite nice english. The worst part (for me) is that some of them don't look exactly "fresh". Good looking, sure. VERY good looking? Ok! Granted! But even some of the best looking have a halo of tiredness on their faces. That really gets me down a little bit.

All the previously said, and the problems to get a BBBJ, the usually false "TLN" ("toda la noche". "all-night") and of course the fact that there are usually too many businessmen around, on their first time in Moscow, willing to overpay to go back home and tell their pals that they have fucked a beautiful Russian doll. Leaves the negotiation window quite limited, and mostly restricted to the late-late-late-night where the above mentioned first timers are mostly gone.

I don't know how much your friend paid for that 28 whyear old single mom. Maybe it was good. But do you think that 28 whyear old single MOMS would be NF material only a few years ago? We both now that women in Russia are VERY quickly off the market after 30 (and I mean the "I am looking for a man" market, NOT the pro market) , and literally invisible to men when they are over 35. I would never pay 500 or 600USD in Russia for any girl older than 22 or 23. There is too much competition for them out there.

By they way, I can't remember now. Have we met in Kiev a few years back?

Salud,

SF

[Prosal]

1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!

I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.

Tashkent. In freelancers or "occasional" bars and clubs, quality Russian pussy varies from free to 150 us$ (usually for all night). But it's rare that you find a drop-dead gorgeous 9+. The best looking girls are rather 7, 5/8. And don't expect the premises to be at Moscow level, you're in the Stans LOL.

From the Uzbekistan thread ROD:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...600#post789600

[Prosal]

1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!

I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.

Tashkent. In freelancers or "occasional" bars and clubs, quality Russian pussy varies from free to 150 us$ (usually for all night). But it's are that you find.

[The Tanuki]

1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!

I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.

This sounds like you expect to find Gisele Bundchen in the back section at WalMart, buddy. That may not be a realistic expectation in life. The global market rates for WG's have changed in the past few years. Even out here in Asia it's not easy to waltz into town (take your pick: Sing, HK, Beijing, etc) and find good quality shags at the prices we remember from the past. Exceptions happen but are not the norm now. My philosophy is to work at finding the women who I can have a great time with, and not be overly concerned about the cost anymore. Hell, I spent a small fortune on the freebie there in Moscow in April. Can't wait to see her again, either! But you'll have to figure out that balance for yourself. Mostly you'll find that the better research you do ahead of time, you can avoid some of the painful and costly mistakes that the brothers here have shared for your benefit. But for a quick and quality in / out session, I suspect the FKK clubs in Germany should be on your bucket list. I've only been to one in Frankfurt, The Palace, and would highly recommend that. Once you've paid to get in, it's only 50 Euros for the basic fuck. Some of the ladies there are quite good at the trade, too. For Russia though, if you let on to the woman that you're a cheapskate, her opinion of you is going to plummet and you'll lose out on a better time, far as I can see.

The Tanuki

[Naykan]

Jake93,

I will be visiting Moscow soon but I want to have sex in the club not in my hotel.

Are there any clubs like this?

If yes, which one is the best?

Thanks in advance.

Naykan

[Passepartout]

I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?

Thank you.

I had plenty of nice to amazing experience at 3000, 4000, 5000 rubles. But I speak Russian so it helps I guess. But I can confirm that 3000 rur can be the entry price for a girl in a medium class bordelo where you can find sometimes the new jem arriving from her province and delighted to have a stranger in her bed. Or you can simply meet the total pro who will do whatever you want for 4000 rur as it is her price and that's it.

Please note that usually 3000 or 4000 is the price for suck and fuck. Any additional service or fantasy is usually a way for the girl to earn more and shall be priced, depending on the service you ask, at 1000 or 2000 rur additional.

[Stravinsky]

Jake,

My, my, my. . . we are testy today aren't we? Always happy to hear from you, Jake.

It's been a long time since we've had any regular intel from the guys on the ground in Moscow. Doc and Pizdyets disappeared long time ago, and the guys who remain are not offering much. . . are they?

In the meantime there has been a flurry of newbies, mostly of the Hi-I-will-be-in-Moscow-next-week-for-3-days-what-should-I-do variety. Of course, they have no desire to avail themselves of the wealth of accumulated experience here, and this has led to a lot of speculation, mainly of the blind-leading-the-blind variety. Apparently now, we are even resorting to racial profiling?

My concern, specifically, is that other guys reading this board will think that 300 or 500 (USD or Euro, what's the diff?) is pretty much the going rate to get laid in Moscow.

As we all know, nothing could be further from the truth. So, I'm simply interjecting a reality check.

I will rain on anyone's parade, anytime I feel like it. I'm sure Ronaldinjo is a big boy and he can make his own choices for himself. If you don't agree, you can always offer your version. That's how the process works usually works.

It's true, I haven't visited Night Flight in a couple years. It's been in a long period of decline for the last 10 years. Last time, there was no one there even remotely do-able (by Russian standards, not American), and they were asking prices that were simply ridiculous. But, maybe I'm wrong (it has happened before) and there has been a tectonic shift in their operation that requires further investigation.

I will leave you with a Sextalk report from a native Muscovite about his experience at Night Flight. Clearly this report is dated: no one has asked 8,000 руб. at NF for a long time. But I think it is still relevant, until proven otherwise.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...200#post791200

[MrBoring37]

1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!

I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.

Poland? Romania? Lativa? Moldova? Belurus? Estonia? Lithuania? New Zealand? Other remote Russian city?

[Jake993]

Ronald,

My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. .

Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.

After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.

The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, in the morning. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.

Percentage of pros? 100%

DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline,"Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 &1088; &1091; &1073; , but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 &1088; &1091; &1073; . If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.

When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.

Welcome to the club! .

Strav,

When were you at Night Flight last?

With all due respect you are talking out of your ASS!

Ronaldo clearly knows the going price of pussy and has said he will pay, so why steer him away? With a name like Ronaldinjo, he's probably Latino and has plenty of experience at negotiating with the Putas. So why be a kill joy? True, some of the biggest posers and rip off artists are at NF but there are some diamonds there too. The colleague I took there a month ago met a GORGEOUS 28 year old whom he did not take home that night (because we were making the rounds and it was still early). But he got her phone number and met up with her the next night for dinner and 6 hours of wild sex. Turns out she's a realtor and single Mom who needed some attention and some extra money.

So PLEASE don't paint the picture that NF is 100% piranha pit. If it was it would have closed down LONG ago.

Things are not ALWAYS as they appear.

Jake.

PS. Ronaldinjo, if you want any more info from me (who actually lives in Moscow) send me a PM.

[Stravinsky]

Ronald,

My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. . .

Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.

After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.

The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, in the morning. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.

Percentage of pros? 100%

DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline, "Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 руб., but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 руб. If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.

When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.

Welcome to the club!

[Ronaldinjo]

The Loft, Penthouse and Aurora 911 are all owned by the same group so things are pretty consistent in all three clubs. I personally like Aurora as it's more Russian, whereas a lot of people like Penthouse because it has more of an American feel. The Loft is brand new so it has the BEST looking girls (for now) so that might be the one to try. If you want onsite sex for one hour, it's going to cost you at least $500 when you consider entrance, drinks, private room, and other dances while you are checking out the talent so budget accordingly. Maybe $700 all inclusive.

Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.

When are you planning to be in Moscow?

Thank you for information Jack. Planning my visitation either in July or in September / October. When do you think best time to come summer or autumn? Maybe in summer most of moscow beautiful WG will travell to overseas. I will deffinitely will try one of 3 strip clubs, maybe the The Loft if there are best looking girls as you say. And of course Night Flight visitation is on my plan now after your reccomendation. I'm planning to travel for 3-4 days. Jake, is Night Flight close to center? What is the best time to arrive there? 9pm or later? What are percentage of pros there? What are taxy prices from NF to hotel in the centre? Thank you and sorry for anoying questions.

With respect, Ronaldinjo

[Jake993]

Thanks Jake. I might go once or max. Twise to strip clubs, so if you could choose only one which is the best club (aurora? Penthouse? Loft?) with best looking girl and best service? Is 500$ will suffice for pop and entrance and drink or what amount of money I should expect to spend for one beautiful girl? What is one hour price? And finally what is night flight? Ordinary club or pro territory?

With respect, Ronaldinjo

The Loft, Penthouse and Aurora 911 are all owned by the same group so things are pretty consistent in all three clubs. I personally like Aurora as it's more Russian, whereas a lot of people like Penthouse because it has more of an American feel. The Loft is brand new so it has the BEST looking girls (for now) so that might be the one to try. If you want onsite sex for one hour, it's going to cost you at least $500 when you consider entrance, drinks, private room, and other dances while you are checking out the talent so budget accordingly. Maybe $700 all inclusive.

Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.

When are you planning to be in Moscow?

[The Tanuki]

I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?

It would be interesting to hear from anyone who's partaken of that venue to know more. It certainly looks way too good to be true, with all 3 holes being advertised for such low rates, etc. But stranger things have happened in this world. Maybe we're missing out on a real good deal without knowing. Personally I'm suspicious. If I hadn't been getting my brains fucked out while I was there, I might've been tempted enough to TOFTT. Maybe next time!

The Tanuki (plotting his return visit already.

[Ronaldinjo]

Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.

www.rusdosug.com

And see if there's anything that tickles your fancy. You have to go down a couple of pages though because the first page is often crowded by African girls (not that there's anything wrong with African girls) and some people get the impression that it's a site mainly for Africans. Not true. There are also some high end girls that can be found on the internet. Non come to mind right away but let me think for a bit. Of corse, you SHOULD try Night Flight once just to see it. You may be pleasantly surprised as it's summer time and there are often some visiting girls who come to NF to earn some extra cash.

Good luck and have fun!

Jake

Thanks Jake. I might go once or max. Twise to strip clubs, so if you could choose only one which is the best club (aurora? Penthouse? Loft?) with best looking girl and best service? Is 500$ will suffice for pop and entrance and drink or what amount of money I should expect to spend for one beautiful girl? What is one hour price? And finally what is night flight? Ordinary club or pro territory?

With respect, Ronaldinjo

[Hbengkok]

Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.

www.rusdosug.com

Good luck and have fun!

Jake

I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?

Thank you.