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06-03-12 20:02 #4611
Posts: 1337Originally Posted by Naykan [View Original Post]
Yes absolutely.
Two categories.
Strip clubs and salons.
The 3 most popular Strip Clubs for this purpose are;
Penthouse Club.
Aurora911.
The Loft.
In my opinion the 3 best salons are;
http://www.fantasys.org
http://www.charmel.biz/
www.atell.ru
And all three are in the center of Moscow.
Have fun!
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06-03-12 19:55 #4610
Posts: 1337Originally Posted by Spanish Fly [View Original Post]
The problem with email and online communication is that it's easy for us to get the wrong impression about what is being communicated. I completely agree with you and Strav about NF. It's nowhere NEAR the place it was 10 years ago and no, a 28 year old single Mom would NEVER have made it into NF back in the day. And yes, the girls today are a LOT less "fresh" that they once were. All of that I have no issue with. My only real point was the fact that Strav is discouraging a Moscow first timer from visiting Night Flight. I am of the opinion that for a Moscow first time visiting monger it's still a great place to start the evening. As for pulling girls out of there, I am with you guys. Those girls are way past the "sell by" date. And those who DO still look good have a longer list of what they WON'T do that what they WILL do.
Anyhow, we're all on the same page here. Apologies to Strav if I was a bit too hash. Sorry mate, I am getting cranky in my old age.
Happy hunting everyone.
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06-02-12 17:32 #4609
Posts: 143Craiglist chicks
My last visit to Moscow. A month ago.
I am always looking at the craiglist and from time to time I manage to find a sweetpie. Never for free.
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06-02-12 13:50 #4608
Posts: 48Originally Posted by Jake993 [View Original Post]
In my humble opinion, I am more with Strav. NF has seen much better times. However, food is great, and it is always a good place to have a couple of drinks and a few laughs with some wingman. Something like window-shopping without actually shopping. Before you decide to go to some normal club to hunt for freebies. (yes, I know, I know. Not everybody has the time, energy, age or talent for the game. And I respect that).
However, the best part in NF is that 99% of the girls speak quite nice english. The worst part (for me) is that some of them don't look exactly "fresh". Good looking, sure. VERY good looking? Ok! Granted! But even some of the best looking have a halo of tiredness on their faces. That really gets me down a little bit.
All the previously said, and the problems to get a BBBJ, the usually false "TLN" ("toda la noche". "all-night") and of course the fact that there are usually too many businessmen around, on their first time in Moscow, willing to overpay to go back home and tell their pals that they have fucked a beautiful Russian doll. Leaves the negotiation window quite limited, and mostly restricted to the late-late-late-night where the above mentioned first timers are mostly gone.
I don't know how much your friend paid for that 28 whyear old single mom. Maybe it was good. But do you think that 28 whyear old single MOMS would be NF material only a few years ago? We both now that women in Russia are VERY quickly off the market after 30 (and I mean the "I am looking for a man" market, NOT the pro market) , and literally invisible to men when they are over 35. I would never pay 500 or 600USD in Russia for any girl older than 22 or 23. There is too much competition for them out there.
By they way, I can't remember now. Have we met in Kiev a few years back?
Salud,
SF
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06-02-12 08:12 #4607
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by MrBoring37 [View Original Post]
From the Uzbekistan thread ROD:
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...600#post789600
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06-02-12 08:06 #4606
Posts: 2306Originally Posted by MrBoring37 [View Original Post]
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06-02-12 00:40 #4605
Posts: 578Originally Posted by MrBoring37 [View Original Post]
The Tanuki
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06-01-12 13:22 #4604
Posts: 110Jake93,
I will be visiting Moscow soon but I want to have sex in the club not in my hotel.
Are there any clubs like this?
If yes, which one is the best?
Thanks in advance.
Naykan
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05-31-12 20:00 #4603
Posts: 175Originally Posted by Hbengkok [View Original Post]
Please note that usually 3000 or 4000 is the price for suck and fuck. Any additional service or fantasy is usually a way for the girl to earn more and shall be priced, depending on the service you ask, at 1000 or 2000 rur additional.
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05-31-12 19:44 #4602
Posts: 1454Jake,
My, my, my. . . we are testy today aren't we? Always happy to hear from you, Jake.
It's been a long time since we've had any regular intel from the guys on the ground in Moscow. Doc and Pizdyets disappeared long time ago, and the guys who remain are not offering much. . . are they?
In the meantime there has been a flurry of newbies, mostly of the Hi-I-will-be-in-Moscow-next-week-for-3-days-what-should-I-do variety. Of course, they have no desire to avail themselves of the wealth of accumulated experience here, and this has led to a lot of speculation, mainly of the blind-leading-the-blind variety. Apparently now, we are even resorting to racial profiling?
My concern, specifically, is that other guys reading this board will think that 300 or 500 (USD or Euro, what's the diff?) is pretty much the going rate to get laid in Moscow.
As we all know, nothing could be further from the truth. So, I'm simply interjecting a reality check.
I will rain on anyone's parade, anytime I feel like it. I'm sure Ronaldinjo is a big boy and he can make his own choices for himself. If you don't agree, you can always offer your version. That's how the process works usually works.
It's true, I haven't visited Night Flight in a couple years. It's been in a long period of decline for the last 10 years. Last time, there was no one there even remotely do-able (by Russian standards, not American), and they were asking prices that were simply ridiculous. But, maybe I'm wrong (it has happened before) and there has been a tectonic shift in their operation that requires further investigation.
I will leave you with a Sextalk report from a native Muscovite about his experience at Night Flight. Clearly this report is dated: no one has asked 8,000 руб. at NF for a long time. But I think it is still relevant, until proven otherwise.
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...200#post791200
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05-31-12 19:14 #4601
Posts: 36Where can I go thats cheaper & better than moscow for white women at freelance bars?
1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!
I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.
Poland? Romania? Lativa? Moldova? Belurus? Estonia? Lithuania? New Zealand? Other remote Russian city?
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05-31-12 17:45 #4600
Posts: 1337Originally Posted by Stravinsky [View Original Post]
When were you at Night Flight last?
With all due respect you are talking out of your ASS!
Ronaldo clearly knows the going price of pussy and has said he will pay, so why steer him away? With a name like Ronaldinjo, he's probably Latino and has plenty of experience at negotiating with the Putas. So why be a kill joy? True, some of the biggest posers and rip off artists are at NF but there are some diamonds there too. The colleague I took there a month ago met a GORGEOUS 28 year old whom he did not take home that night (because we were making the rounds and it was still early). But he got her phone number and met up with her the next night for dinner and 6 hours of wild sex. Turns out she's a realtor and single Mom who needed some attention and some extra money.
So PLEASE don't paint the picture that NF is 100% piranha pit. If it was it would have closed down LONG ago.
Things are not ALWAYS as they appear.
Jake.
PS. Ronaldinjo, if you want any more info from me (who actually lives in Moscow) send me a PM.
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05-31-12 15:47 #4599
Posts: 1454Ronald,
My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. . .
Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.
After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.
The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, in the morning. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.
Percentage of pros? 100%
DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline, "Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 руб., but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 руб. If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.
When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.
Welcome to the club!
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05-30-12 21:40 #4598
Posts: 144Moscow
Originally Posted by Jake993 [View Original Post]
With respect, Ronaldinjo
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05-29-12 19:42 #4597
Posts: 1337Originally Posted by Ronaldinjo [View Original Post]
Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.
When are you planning to be in Moscow?